John Kerry 1971: The U.S. must beware of foreign intervention for moralistic reasons

posted at 5:21 pm on September 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

A little morsel from the “Firing Line” archives that’s making the rounds on Twitter. Skip to 3:51 for the key bit. Quote:

It gets us into a sort of messianic enterprise whereby we have this impression that somehow we can go out and touch these other countries and change them.

Fast-forward a decade or four and now he’s running around telling people that failing to bomb Assad two years after he started slaughtering people en masse would be “one of those moments in history that will live in infamy.” Although, in fairness to Waffles, he didn’t change his mind on this recently. It’s hard to remember now but he voted to invade Iraq in 2002 before symbolically voting against it in hindsight two years later as his party’s nominee. To judge from his career arc, a guy who became a national figure for speaking out against Vietnam has grown increasingly pro-war over time, to the point where he’s now comparing Assad to Hitler and the gas attack in Damascus to Pearl Harbor. Maybe that fact will help ease the pain of anti-war liberals who narrowly missed dislodging Dubya in 2004. With Kerry steadily evolving towards interventionism, who knows what exciting military adventures we would have had in the second half of the last decade with him as president.

Then again, is the quote above really inconsistent with what we’re doing now? The point of bombing Assad isn’t to change Syria, despite John McCain’s fondest wishes, it’s to do something “just muscular enough not to get mocked.” Bloody Assad’s nose now and maybe he’ll learn that if he wants to kill children, he’ll have to go on doing it with bombs and bullets instead of gas. How moralistic is that, really?

Exit question: He sure has worked hard to lose some of that Brahmin accent, huh?


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Post-America world, enjoy it comrades.

rob verdi on September 5, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Kerry is one of the most vile creatures ever to come from this country.

oceansidecon on September 5, 2013 at 5:24 PM

John Kerry is a disgrace to the uniform he wore.

TX-96 on September 5, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Like a ventriloquist talking to his dummy. When Kerry stepped on stage, the average IQ went down by half.

VastRightWingConspirator on September 5, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Hanoi Jane’s BFF

fogw on September 5, 2013 at 5:27 PM

To judge from his career arc, a guy who became a national figure for speaking out against Vietnam has grown increasingly pro-war over time, to the point where he’s now comparing Assad to Hitler and the gas attack in Damascus to Pearl Harbor.

Okay, these people are way too desperate and flailing to explain this all away as covering the Liar-in-Chief’s lying arse.

Which leads me to wonder: What coming disaster is so big on their radar screen that they feel the need to go to these lengths for a distraction?

Fed meltdown? GM bankruptcy? Someone going public on a scandal?

Inquiring minds, and all that…

JohnGalt23 on September 5, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Not one word has come out of his mouth regarding Syria that has any conviction at all. He just mumbles the party line like a horse-faced robot.

patman77 on September 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Live Updates: Syria

UPDATE: Thursday, 5:09 p.m. Senator Joe Manchin, D-W. Va. and member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, issued a statement opposing U.S. military intervention in Syria:

“Given the case that has been presented to me, I believe that a military strike against Syria at this time is the wrong course of action. In good conscience, I cannot support the Senate Foreign Relations Committee’s resolution and will be working with my colleagues and the administration to develop other options.”

UPDATE: Thursday, 2:24 p.m. Former Congressman Ron Paul stated today that it would be “historic” if Congress defeated President Obama’s proposal to militarily intervene in Syria. “I think [this vote] will be historic because [if Obama’s request is denied] it would be a grand coalition of the Libertarian Republicans and the Democratic Progressives,” Paul said.

UPDATE: Thursday, 2:07 p.m. Congressman Elijah Cummings, D.-Md., expressed great worry about what the U.S. would do after a military strike in Syria:

“The more information I learn, the more I am convinced that we have got to try and figure out what happens after this, because I do believe from everything that I’ve read that President Assad will retaliate.”

Cummings has not decided whether or not he would vote against intervention, but he did indicate that 95% of calls coming in to his office say “no” to involvement in Syria.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

I guess messianic enterprises are okay when your party thinks your boss is the Messiah.

Fabozz on September 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Why the long face, John?

Del Dolemonte on September 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

That’s one stupid looking helmet he had on back then.

CurtZHP on September 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I have loathed John Kerry since the early 70′s.

If you have integrity, nothing else matters.

If you have no integrity, nothing else matters.

Give that some serious thought, John Boy…

Get back to me. K?

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM

What a farking horse faced doofus.

The fact that this sombrero of azzhats was elected to Congress and is now SOS is a sad testament to how far our country has fallen. It really reflects on the idiots who reside in Massholechusetts.

HumpBot Salvation on September 5, 2013 at 5:35 PM

What Obama and his minions haven’t understood is this is really about a lack of trust. He’s asking others to make hard decisions for him when at no time would he make one for them.

Tater Salad on September 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM

What a pretentious windbag Kerry is. Love William F. Buckley, though.

Naturally Curly on September 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Although, in fairness to Waffles, he didn’t change his mind on this recently.

Long term large scale waffling.

dont taze me bro on September 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM

* LTLSW

dont taze me bro on September 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM

I wonder if Buckley wished to do to Kerry that which he wished to have done to Vidal.

Bmore on September 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM

The only policy the Left is consistently committed to is superimposing their utopian society on us. Every other statement or stance, contradictory or not, is a means they change at will to work to that end.

INC on September 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Man I wish I could have been there to help him throw those medals over the White House fence. Of course I’d have insisted that he be wearing them at the time.

Oldnuke on September 5, 2013 at 5:44 PM

What a pretentious windbag Kerry is. Love William F. Buckley, though.

Naturally Curly on September 5, 2013 at 5:37 PM

To be fair, Buckley was a bit of a windbag too in that clip.

ebrawer on September 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Michael Calderone ‏@mlcalderone 8m

Kerry tells @chrislhayes that “picture we all saw in the paper today…of those people being shot” could happen more if US doesn’t act. (1/2)

Sure, Lurch, sure ‘cuz, like, um, ya know, they are really moderates or something.

Byron York ‏@ByronYork 7m

RT @blakehounshell: CNN chyron: “Kerry reaching out to liberal bloggers.” Uh-oh.

Behold the smell of desperation!

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 5:48 PM

‘Brahmin accent’ loool :)…

jimver on September 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM

To be fair, Buckley was a bit of a windbag too in that clip.

ebrawer on September 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM

I had to skip half of his bloviating…

jimver on September 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM

That accent….HAHAHAHA!

“Veeitnaaahhm”.

Bishop on September 5, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Hanoi Jane’s BFF

fogw on September 5, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Yep, a dirty whore and a gigolo, perfect pair.

slickwillie2001 on September 5, 2013 at 5:54 PM

WFB had one of the coolest voices of all time.

nicktjacob on September 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Yep, a dirty whore and a gigolo, perfect pair.

slickwillie2001 on September 5, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Ok dammit, you got me, which is which? Come on, spill it.

Bishop on September 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Behold the smell of desperation!

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Definite stink hole operation these slackers are running.

Bmore on September 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Lolz!

Bmore on September 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM

You’ll have to pardon Johnny, he’s not being hypocritical, as King Barry would say under the same circumstances “I’m EVOLVING!”

GarandFan on September 5, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Somewhat of interesting that Kerry did not vote on the Syria Accountability … Act back in December 2003.

Then again, IIRC, Kerry was notorious for his failure to vote on bills.

Dusty on September 5, 2013 at 6:07 PM

I think we should stop beating around the bush and call out Kerry on his real motive for what is an obvious misadventure.

Ater a mere 4 months of in theater service Kerry arranged for a ticket out of Nam after being awarded 3 purple hearts for 3 superficial flesh wounds, 2 of which may have been self-inflicted.

It is understandable that this was a terrible blow to his ego that he has carried deep within his soul all these years, but surely visits to a therapist would be preferable to this obvious misadventure.

Basilsbest on September 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM

If only his views were as consistent as his stupid haircut… if only .

EnglishRogue on September 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM

His face didn’t move back then either.

Ted Torgerson on September 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM

“So I know whose a$$ to kick!”

King Barky the Masculine

jukin3 on September 5, 2013 at 6:14 PM

To be fair, Buckley was a bit of a windbag too in that clip.

ebrawer on September 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM

I had to skip half of his bloviating…

jimver on September 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM

What you take to be verbosity from Buckley is in fact the beauty of Buckley. The man never said a word he didn’t intend to say, and every syllable was important to the statement.

He was fair, and absolutely brutal while doing it. That doesn’t mean he was neutral. Far from it.

Many people thought they could out-argue him, and lost (even Yale and Hawhvawd graduates). He was a real treasure to conservatism.

BobMbx on September 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Poll: Majority Of Americans Approve Of Sending Congress To Syria

Sadly the Geneva Convention won’t permit that, as Congress is too horrifying and destructive a weapon to be used in warfare.

Fabozz on September 5, 2013 at 6:19 PM

To Progressives, we (the serfs)are the infidels to radical Muslims.

Lying is permitted, and encouraged.

PappyD61 on September 5, 2013 at 6:19 PM

obama and Kerry are the laughing stock of the world, in full display, the Liars.

Schadenfreude on September 5, 2013 at 6:19 PM

[BobMbx on September 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM]

Ditto.

Dusty on September 5, 2013 at 6:20 PM

RACIST! – UNJUST! – ILLEGAL WAR!
RACIST! – UNJUST! – ILLEGAL WAR!
RACIST! – UNJUST! – ILLEGAL WAR!

Join in, libtards!

RACIST! – UNJUST! – ILLEGAL WAR!
RACIST! – UNJUST! – ILLEGAL WAR!
RACIST! – UNJUST! – ILLEGAL WAR!

Glenn Jericho on September 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM

What you take to be verbosity from Buckley is in fact the beauty of Buckley. The man never said a word he didn’t intend to say, and every syllable was important to the statement.

He was fair, and absolutely brutal while doing it. That doesn’t mean he was neutral. Far from it.

Many people thought they could out-argue him, and lost (even Yale and Hawhvawd graduates). He was a real treasure to conservatism.

BobMbx on September 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM

National Review will never recover the loss of WFB.

slickwillie2001 on September 5, 2013 at 6:31 PM

His accent may have changed but he’s still every much the tedious blowhard that he was then.

AUINSC on September 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Egyptian Media doing the job our lame stream media won’t

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/04/egyptian-media-portray-obama-as-satan/

redguy on September 5, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Why do Obama and Kerry hate brown people so much?

Midas on September 5, 2013 at 7:00 PM

To be fair, Buckley was a bit of a windbag too in that clip.

ebrawer on September 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM

I had to skip half of his bloviating…

jimver on September 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM

What you take to be verbosity from Buckley is in fact the beauty of Buckley. The man never said a word he didn’t intend to say, and every syllable was important to the statement.

He was fair, and absolutely brutal while doing it. That doesn’t mean he was neutral. Far from it.

Many people thought they could out-argue him, and lost (even Yale and Hawhvawd graduates). He was a real treasure to conservatism.

BobMbx on September 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Sad to say some of the classic clips are not available on youtube these days, but in the 1980s comedy show “SCTV” Joe Flaherty did a killer imitation of William F. on several occasions.

Battle of the PBS Stars

Del Dolemonte on September 5, 2013 at 7:10 PM

1971? Is that really fair to compare what somebody said 42 years ago with what they say now?

SoulGlo on September 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM

I thought he said that they have better hair?
Ugh!
(Heh!)

Another Drew on September 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM

The hair!!!!

You could hide a whole hive of bees in that.

avagreen on September 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM

BobMbx on September 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM

He did it slowly and beautifully, with people just lying on the ground wondering where their [redacted]ss’es had gone.

avagreen on September 5, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Basilsbest on September 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM

I happen to have been actually watching TV, rocking my baby who had colic, when Horseface stepped up the plank from the ship onto the place where the cameras were and was being interviewed, along with the other men. He was asked the question what he wanted to do with the rest of his life. He replied, “Politics.”

I thought, “Suuuuuure. Dream on.” How wrong I was.

avagreen on September 5, 2013 at 8:22 PM

He did it slowly and beautifully, with people just lying on the ground wondering where their [redacted]ss’es had gone.

avagreen on September 5, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Most of his eviscerants didn’t realize what had happened to them until hours, or even days, later.

BobMbx on September 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

BobMbx on September 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Yeah, I know. The wound was so deep and slow, they didn’t have a clue.
*sigh*

avagreen on September 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM

With Kerry steadily evolving towards interventionism, who knows what exciting military adventures we would have had in the second half of the last decade with him as president.

We know that Kerry’s wars would have been more “sensitive” and they would have passed the “global test”.

RJL on September 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM

The mop is a pertinent fop.

AshleyTKing on September 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM

You raaaang??

Sherman1864 on September 6, 2013 at 4:29 AM

Notfernuthin, but that is QUITE the hair helmet he has on in that cover picture.

PJ Emeritus on September 6, 2013 at 9:49 AM