Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads; Update: Kerry making the full Ginsburg

posted at 8:01 am on September 1, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

If Syria got short shrift in last week’s Sunday talkfests, it’s occupying nearly every square inch of the territory this week.  So far, only Fox News Sunday seems to be giving any ground on other issues, with a tête à tête between Rep. Pete King and former CIA covert agent Mike Baker on intelligence leaks and the developments this week on the Edward Snowden case. CNN’s State of the Union will have a roundtable discussion on whether Bill Clinton can save ObamaCare, for some reason. Otherwise, it’s all Syria all morning long with both featured guests and roundtables.  The most potent combination to watch will probably be Senators Jack Reed and Jim Inhofe on Fox, but Bob Menendez vs Rand Paul on Meet the Press might have some fireworks, too.

By the way, look at the list below and see how many White House figures or current DoD officials are making the rounds.  That number would be zero, barring any last-minute changes.  Very odd, considering the proximity of military action in a brand-new theater for American troops. John Podhoretz called this a classic Labor Day pre-tape problem:

It would still have been a good platform to make their case to the American people. The shows seem to have no problem getting others in Washington to talk about the issue, pre-taped or not.  And Jim Geraghty has a fine suggestion for an admin official:

Update, 9/1: In a late change to all of the listings below, Yahoo says John Kerry will make the full Ginsburg today.

  • ABC’s This Week: Former Joint Chiefs of Staff Vice Chair Gen. James Cartwright USMC (Ret.), Vali Nasr, Terry Moran, Martha Raddatz on Syria; roundtable with James Carville and Mary Matalin, Peggy Noonan, and Tavis Smiley.
  • CBS’ Face The Nation: Sen. John McCain, Sen. Saxby Chambliss, Sen. Tim Kaine, Anthony Cordesman
  • CNN’s State of the Union: Reps. Eliot Engel, Scott Rigell, Chris Murphy; Gen. Anthony Zinni (ret); roundtable with Donna Brazil, David Frum, Cornel Belcher and Ross Douthat (via Politico)
  • Fox News Sunday: Sen Jack Reed (D-RI) and Sen James Inhofe (R-OK); Rep. Pete King and former CIA Covert Operations Officer Mike Baker; roundtable with Gen. Jack Keane, former Senator Joe Lieberman, Jennifer Rubin, Charles Lane
  • NBC’s Meet the Press: Sen. Robert Menendez, Sen. Rand Paul; Ann Curry; roundtable with William Kristol, Gwen Ifill, Eugene Robinson, BBC News anchor Katty Kay.

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msdnc talking head already blaming the gop

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Talking points received and regurgitated.

One Parliament rebuffed David Cameron’s plan on Syria Obama going to Congress was a predictable as the sun coming up in the East every morning. Nothing’s more important to President Present than to make sure he can never get blamed for anything bad involving a controversial issue, while leaving an opening for other Democrats and the big media to give Obama all the credit when something good happens.

Boehner needs to pass a resolution neither approving nor disapproving of the Syrian options, but leaving the matter “…up to the discretion of the president.” It would be a partial skirting of Congress’ duty to authorize any military action, but Obama never would have gone to Congress if the Brits had voted to attack Syria and given him the cover to blame someone else if things go wrong. Unless the House Republicans throw this back in the White House’s lap, anything that goes wrong in Syria from now until the end of Obama’s term will be spun by the White House, other Dems and the big media as Boehner’s fault, and he’s an idiot if he can’t see it coming from a mile away down Pennsylvania Avenue.

jon1979 on September 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM

This^^

GrannyDee on September 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM

FNS was ths only one we could watch.
What about the other shows ??
Anything else to report ??

pambi on September 1, 2013 at 10:20 AM

O.T. Drudge has another picture with B.O. posing with the bottom of his foot on top of his desk. What is with this man? No respect for the office at all.

Whiterock on September 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM

John Kerry should be ashamed of himself. Syria = Iraq in every way.

ctmom on September 1, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Except now we’d be helping the MB who want to destroy us. Makes perfect lib sense. LET ALLAH SORT IT OUT!

ctmom on September 1, 2013 at 10:29 AM

O.T. Drudge has another picture with B.O. posing with the bottom of his foot on top of his desk. What is with this man? No respect for the office at all.

Whiterock on September 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Democrats elected that f****t for this purpose.

Murphy9 on September 1, 2013 at 10:30 AM

he will prevail in congress
-bill kristol on mtp

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM

that front picture of dear leader on drudge is infuriating….

classy way of using the furniture…

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Is that a not-so subtle insult to the Brits for not stumbling along into Bammie’s war?

slickwillie2001 on September 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Boehner needs to pass a resolution neither approving nor disapproving of the Syrian options, but leaving the matter “…up to the discretion of the president.” It would be a partial skirting of Congress’ duty to authorize any military action,

jon1979 on September 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM

It would be totally un-Constitutional and cowardly of the House … so what’s new in the American Socialist Superstate?

The House needs to tell Barky to stuff it with Syria and that he will be impeached, tossed and criminally prosecuted if he pulls the same sh!t he pulled in Libya (for which he should still be impeached, tossed, and criminally prosecuted).

No one should be feeling any pressure to do jack for anyone in Syria. They are not our problem, though once they stop fighting each other they will return to being problems for us and all civilized interests. As long as the Syrians keep killing each other (using whatever works best to take them all out) the better it is for the civilized world – not for Barky’s world, but for the civilized world.

I think that Barky needs to make a personal appearance in Damascus and give some sooper-dooper important teleprompter speech. Maybe the world will get lucky … IYKWIMAIKYD …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM

slickwillie2001 on September 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM

hmmmm

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 10:38 AM

This has become a theater of the absurd. What country announces a military move and then waits over 2 weeks to act on it? And then, if we do this “no boots on the ground”, “not open-ended” attack, against Syria who has powerful allies such as Iran (and Russia), and we lob our cruise missiles, then Iran and Al Qaeda can rain hell down on US interests day after day, without ceasing. We open a new front in the Middle East, and announce in advance we’re going to do a Roberto Duran “no mas” after a few days … this will be a slow motion disaster.

/what could go wrong — everything

Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2013 at 10:40 AM

that front picture of dear leader on drudge is infuriating….

classy way of using the furniture…

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Is that a not-so subtle insult to the Brits for not stumbling along into Bammie’s war?

slickwillie2001 on September 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Nah..that’s just Prezzie Mawkish being a jackass.

GrannyDee on September 1, 2013 at 10:42 AM

he will prevail in congress
-bill kristol on mtp

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Anyone supporting Obama on this will have their ass handed to them when they come up for re-election.

The world does not support Obama on this. When it turns out badly – Obama will blame Congress and go play golf.

Obama has a big mouth and no stick.

We really don’t need to send our military into harms way to support Islamic terrorists.

redguy on September 1, 2013 at 10:44 AM

When it turns out badly – Obama will blame Congress and go play golf.

redguy on September 1, 2013 at 10:44 AM

When the going gets tough … Obama plays golf.

Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Will someone kindly explain what “The full Ginsburg” means? I know what “The full Monty” is, but what’s “The full Ginsburg”? Looking like a walking cadaver and acting like your a Supreme Court Justice in the Politboro?

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 10:47 AM

This has become a theater of the absurd. What country announces a military move and then waits over 2 weeks to act on it? And then, if we do this “no boots on the ground”, “not open-ended” attack, against Syria who has powerful allies such as Iran (and Russia), and we lob our cruise missiles, then Iran and Al Qaeda can rain hell down on US interests day after day, without ceasing. We open a new front in the Middle East, and announce in advance we’re going to do a Roberto Duran “no mas” after a few days … this will be a slow motion disaster.

/what could go wrong — everything

Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2013 at 10:40 AM

You are correct sir!

I think Obama wants Iran and Syria to attack and destroy Israel.

This may lead to Israel using nukes.

Will Obama have to return his Nobel Peace Prize?

redguy on September 1, 2013 at 10:47 AM

GrannyDee on September 1, 2013 at 10:42 AM

+1

redguy on September 1, 2013 at 10:44 AM

+1

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Ginsburg during the clinton adminstration went on all teh sunday shows which was unheard of at the time

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Will someone kindly explain what “The full Ginsburg” means? I know what “The full Monty” is, but what’s “The full Ginsburg”? Looking like a walking cadaver and acting like your a Supreme Court Justice in the Politboro?

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 10:47 AM

The “full Ginsburg” is a buzzword that refers to an appearance by one person on all five American major Sunday morning talk shows on the same day: This Week on ABC, Fox News Sunday, Face the Nation on CBS, Meet the Press on NBC, and Late Edition on CNN.

The term is named for William H. Ginsburg, the lawyer for Monica Lewinsky during the sexual conduct scandal involving President Bill Clinton. Ginsburg was the first person to accomplish this feat, on February 1, 1998

redguy on September 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Note to Screamin’ Lurch…

‘All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.’

- George Orwell

Resist We Much on September 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM

When the going gets tough … Obama plays golf.

Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2013 at 10:46 AM

I think “plays” is stretching it a bit. His swing is pathetic – worse than pathetic, really – and we all know that he cheats his pathetic azz off (as he cheats at everything, that’s no surprise).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Paul-Cincy on September 1, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Exactly. I haven’t understood this garbage out of the garbage president from minute one. On Tuesday, you tell the whole world you’re going to bomb the shi* out of Syria for using chemical weapons then wait and wait……..What good is it to announce your plans in that manner unless your plans really are all about telling the participants that you are ready to start something other than a targeted no boots on the ground (aspirin factory) strike?

Barky is an incredible human being.

ORconservative on September 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM

that front picture of dear leader on drudge is infuriating….

classy way of using the furniture…

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Guaranteed what he’s saying is, “No, that’s ONE pizza with ONE topping”

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 10:50 AM

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM

redguy on September 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Muchas Gracias. (Gotta learn the lingo, you know. El futuro)

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Exactly. I haven’t understood this garbage out of the garbage president from minute one.

Barky is an incredible human being.

ORconservative on September 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM

The Bible describes it as “playing the great man but lacking bread.”

Better is a man of humble standing who works for himself
than one who plays the great man but lacks bread.

Proverbs 12:9

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 10:56 AM

The term is named for William H. Ginsburg, the lawyer for Monica Lewinsky during the sexual conduct scandal involving President Bill Clinton. Ginsburg was the first person to accomplish this feat, on February 1, 1998

redguy on September 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Right about now I’d take a good ol’ sex scandal in the WH compared to O-Rambo.

GrannyDee on September 1, 2013 at 10:57 AM

“Bread” in this instance meaning “substance”.

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 10:58 AM

After I posted that pic of his foot on the desk, our friend and retired NCIS agent commented that he’d be afraid to luminal that furniture … LOL.

pambi on September 1, 2013 at 10:59 AM

…Boehner needs to pass a resolution neither approving nor disapproving of the Syrian options, but leaving the matter “…up to the discretion of the president.” It would be a partial skirting of Congress’ duty to authorize any military action, but Obama never would have gone to Congress if the Brits had voted to attack Syria and given him the cover to blame someone else if things go wrong. Unless the House Republicans throw this back in the White House’s lap, anything that goes wrong in Syria from now until the end of Obama’s term will be spun by the White House, other Dems and the big media as Boehner’s fault, and he’s an idiot if he can’t see it coming from a mile away down Pennsylvania Avenue.

jon1979 on September 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM

In a way Axelrod’s latest let’s fool em op is little more than another fat bastard moment.
Only difference is this time its not fat chris christie making ozero look bi-partisan but David Axelrod himself for devising this get out of Syrian jail free card.
Shifting the responsibility for bomb or don’t bomb Syria over to Congress makes zero look more bi-partisan along with remaining a huge political diversion. Its more psy-ops by one of the best astro turfers ever the bent axel.
We,Republicans, always fall for any of their schemes so the fact that we are rolling over once again is little surprise.
Its sad our side has no idea at all what is coming at them or what has already transpired.

rodguy911 on September 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM

That dang foot on the furniture says it all. Obama, you don’t respect anything but yourself.

mobydutch on September 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM

that front picture of dear leader on drudge is infuriating….

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Putting feet up on WH furniture is ignorant.

Just. Plain. Ignorant.

petefrt on September 1, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Did John Kerry get plastic surgery or something? He looks totally different. It’s so strange.

bluegill on September 1, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Facebook memes are circulating that the GOP has refused to come back to vote on Syria, although Zero expressly said he would bring it to them when they come back.

I didn’t see him do anything to recall them…

Kerry will push that idea too. Gotta blame the GOP for Zero’s screw up.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Did John Kerry get plastic surgery or something? He looks totally different. It’s so strange.

bluegill on September 1, 2013 at 11:16 AM

On his chin, I think. Howie Carr was talking about it a couple weeks ago.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 11:21 AM

This is it. It’s all over. Obama has flapped his mouth off for the last time. He has lost all respect in the World. His military leaders will no longer take his orders. The Democratic party is starting to isolate him and the MSM is throwing him under the bus. He was a young inexperienced politician that made the same mistake of many political young. He went off the teleprompter and began to believe in his manufactured greatness. All that is left is the need for an exist strategy from the White House. Impeachment is not an option. The Democratic party would never survive that the only two presidents to be impeached were consecutive Democrats. Still believing that the next Democratic President should be the Wife of one of those two. If Hillary Clinton were elected she would not last 6 months until the movement would be a foot for her to be the Third consecutive Democrat to be impeached.

So what’s it going to be for an exit strategy.

Impeachment? Not likely. The rules of impeachment are designed by politicians for the protection of the politician, NOT for the easy removal of a politician.

Heath reasons? Expectable idea. Pick you illness.
1.Sickle Cell Anemia? Good choice.
2.Lung disease. From Smoking and drug use.
3.Drug use
4.Bad liver from Drug use.
5.Nervous breakdown. Real possibility.
6.Not eligible to be president. Still possible.

Let him be in isolation and go golfing at a $$Million dollars a day for the next three years.
I guess that might work, after all it would still be cheaper then one month involved in Syria.

jpcpt03 on September 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM

“Bread” in this instance meaning “substance”.

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 10:58 AM

.
“All hat, no cattle” – any lib criticizing Dubya

ExpressoBold on September 1, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Did John Kerry get plastic surgery or something? He looks totally different. It’s so strange.

bluegill on September 1, 2013 at 11:16 AM

On his chin, I think. Howie Carr was talking about it a couple weeks ago.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 11:21 AM

I have no doubt that Tarrayza sends him in for work regularly, trying to create the perfect gigolo. On the other hand, maybe his head has just swollen further from the new title.

slickwillie2001 on September 1, 2013 at 11:24 AM

He definitely had Botox on his forehead (100% sure), and I think he got fillers in his cheeks.

bluegill on September 1, 2013 at 11:28 AM

jpcpt03 on September 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM

7. Something is wrong in his brain; the evidence is the horrific scars on the rear-right of his skull. Eventually it might kill him.

From 2011: Mystery scars on Obama’s head prompt another question from conspiracy theorists – has the President had brain surgery?

slickwillie2001 on September 1, 2013 at 11:30 AM

that front picture of dear leader on drudge is infuriating….

classy way of using the furniture…

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Give the guy a break – he had to complete his stretching routine before heading out to the golf course in the middle of a crisis.

PatMac on September 1, 2013 at 11:32 AM

pambi on September 1, 2013 at 10:59

Well, now ……
my FB post with the foot on the desk (complete with several comments) has disappeared from my Facebook News Feed.
It’s still on our timeline, tho.

Who’s messing with me ???

pambi on September 1, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Botox in the frown area can result in lowered eyebrows. Kerry seems to have gotten it in that area as well. He can’t frown much now. Botox can be great, but it should be done in a way that doesn’t affect eyebrow positioning. His Botox injector should have known this, since he doesn’t look good with his eyebrows like that. Changed eyebrows can mess up the whole look. Fortunately for him it will wear off in a few months. I think his cheek fillers are nice, though. Probably Radiesse or Sculptra.

But about the topic at hand:
What I am still unclear about is whether Assad is responsible for the chemical weapons attack. Are we sure he was? Israel believes he was, right?

bluegill on September 1, 2013 at 11:35 AM

uhoh. When he’s lost little Fareed…

Fareed Zakaria: Obama’s Handling of Syria ‘Case Study in How Not To Do Foreign Policy’

I can’t remember being in substantial agreement with anything the relentless idiot Zakaria has said before, ever.

novaculus on September 1, 2013 at 11:36 AM

This is going around facebook. The comments are somewhat unhinged.

The meme is the GOP refused to come back early.

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/31/house-republicans-refuse-early-vacation-discuss-syria.html

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 11:39 AM

The meme is the GOP refused to come back early.

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/31/house-republicans-refuse-early-vacation-discuss-syria.html

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Who cares? The GOP has no reason to return to Washington (and they only do damage while they’re there, anyway, so I prefer they stay away). I can see the idiot GOP coming back to session and passing some criminal bill for illegals – to help Barky and take advantage of the whole Syria joke.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM

I could see him in isolation for three years.
There is a fb thread by the Zero (The Oregonian) and not one comment is in support of Barky. Even those who are obvious Obots are not singing his praises on the question of a Syria strike.

ORconservative on September 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM

He definitely had Botox on his forehead (100% sure), and I think he got fillers in his cheeks.

bluegill on September 1, 2013 at 11:28 AM

This is what it has come down to in our political leaders; those who are supposed to be our reflections – concerned about the trivial, their appearances rather than their characters. Biden with his haor plugs and porcelain teeth, Pelosi with her constant plastic surgery, now Kerry.

We don’t have leaders, we have celebrities.

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Westerners are unaware of the significance of the head and the feet in a Muslim culture. Afghans typically sit with legs crossed. Pointing the soles of the feet towards someone is impolite because the soles of the feet (shoe) are considered dirty, closest to the ground, closer to the devil and farther away from God. When in the presence of Muslims, be careful not to raise or cross your legs in such a way that the sole of the foot faces others in the room. It is important to be aware of how the bottoms of your feet are pointed whenever you are in a room with others. Never let the sole of your foot or shoe come in contact with an Afghan person.

Be aware that forcing a Muslim’s head to touch the ground may make him an enemy. Muslims only touch their heads to the ground when praying. You may also see Afghans holding their hands up in front of their face. This is to request divine assistance.

http://uwf.edu/atcdev/Afghanistan/Behaviors/Lesson8PhysicalGestures2.html

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Any-infidel-insults-Islam-I-will-put-him-under-my-feet/133164233512978

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23547727

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM

It would be totally un-Constitutional and cowardly of the House … so what’s new in the American Socialist Superstate?

The House needs to tell Barky to stuff it with Syria and that he will be impeached, tossed and criminally prosecuted if he pulls the same sh!t he pulled in Libya (for which he should still be impeached, tossed, and criminally prosecuted).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Under normal circumstances — and with a big media holding to account the guys who’s supposed to be at the highest pay grade in the world — the House voting up or down on Syria would be the proper action. But because the bulk of the big media will cover for Obama no matter what, that’s the strategy the White House is planning her if Boehner permits a yes/no vote.

If Congress approves an attack on Syria and things go wrong — it’s John Boehner’s fault. If Congress rejects an attack on Syria and we keep hearing the same reports out of Syria we’ve heard for the past 18 months — it’s John Boehner’s fault.

President Present does nothing ever, anywhere, anyplace or at anytime that’s controversial where there’s not an out so that he gets all the credit if things work, and someone else takes the blame if when it goes wrong. Obama’s the Bizzaro World Harry S. Truman, in that the buck stops everyplace in the universe before it ends up on his desk in the Oval Office.

jon1979 on September 1, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Syria hailed an “historic American retreat” on Sunday, mockingly accusing President Barack Obama of hesitation and confusion after he delayed a military strike to consult Congress.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/01/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE97K0EL20130901

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Boehner needs to pass a resolution neither approving nor disapproving of the Syrian options, but leaving the matter “…up to the discretion of the president.”

No, he shouldn’t do that. Sending U.S. armed forces into war is the constitutional authority of congress, not the president. Congress has already ceded far too much of its power to the president. Congress needs to man up and take a stand — and hopefully, that stand will be “no, we will not authorize you to lob a few missiles into Syria in order not to be mocked.”

Since Obama has announced that he’s going to bomb Syria no matter what Congress does, Boehner should tell Obama that he will not allow a vote on the use of force that is merely symbolic. Either Obama agrees in advance to be bound by results of the vote, or he acts without congressional consent and takes his chances.

AZCoyote on September 1, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Over at “The Corner” Andrew Stiles summarizes another of McCain’s idiotic assessments:

The Syrian opposition to the Assad regime is “demoralized,” and President Obama’s refusal to give them arms is “shameful,” Senator John McCain (R., Ariz.) said on Face the Nation.

McCain said he didn’t know whether or not Congress would approve the Obama’s request for military authorization, but suggested the president needed to put forward a strategy that went beyond “pinprick” missile strikes. The best way to eliminate the threat of chemical weapons would be to remove Assad from power, McCain said, and the United States should at the very least be providing arms to the “moderate” Syrian rebel groups in an effort to achieve that aim.

He slammed the Obama administration’s decision not to act more decisively in Syria when the conflict erupted two years ago, but warned that the consequences of Congress’s denying authorization to strike now would have “very serious” consequences and send the wrong signal to our enemies.

Who exactly are our enemies, John? You appear to be confused…again.

onlineanalyst on September 1, 2013 at 11:55 AM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Are you saying it’s not important to know what the loony left is saying?

I have to disagree.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 11:55 AM

This is what it has come down to in our political leaders; those who are supposed to be our reflections – concerned about the trivial, their appearances rather than their characters. Biden with his haor plugs and porcelain teeth, Pelosi with her constant plastic surgery, now Kerry.We don’t have leaders, we have celebrities.
Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Not new. You forget breck boy and orange tan lurch campaigning in 04. Even then there was talk of lifts and ticks

AH_C on September 1, 2013 at 11:58 AM

He definitely had Botox on his forehead (100% sure), and I think he got fillers in his cheeks.

bluegill on September 1, 2013 at 11:28 AM

This is what it has come down to in our political leaders; those who are supposed to be our reflections – concerned about the trivial, their appearances rather than their characters. Biden with his haor plugs and porcelain teeth, Pelosi with her constant plastic surgery, now Kerry.

We don’t have leaders, we have celebrities.

Cleombrotus on September 1, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Image over word. cf. Jacques Ellul, The Humiliation of the Word.

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 11:59 AM

What happened to Kerry’s face? Looks like the joker on Botox.

elowe on September 1, 2013 at 11:59 AM

If Congress approves an attack on Syria and things go wrong — it’s John Boehner’s fault.

If those idiots approved an attack on Syria it certainly would be the Weeping Boner’s fault (and all of the cowardly sh!theads who voted for it).

If Congress rejects an attack on Syria and we keep hearing the same reports out of Syria we’ve heard for the past 18 months — it’s John Boehner’s fault.

Who cares?

President Present does nothing ever, anywhere, anyplace or at anytime that’s controversial where there’s not an out so that he gets all the credit if things work, and someone else takes the blame if when it goes wrong.

That’s not true. Barky does whatever the hell he wants, anytime he wants. He always blames others for everything, no matter what. The actions of others have nothing to do with this dynamic. Barky acts like an arab in this sort of blaming and lying. Big surprise, there …

Obama’s the Bizzaro World Harry S. Truman, in that the buck stops everyplace in the universe before it ends up on his desk in the Oval Office.

jon1979 on September 1, 2013 at 11:50 AM

To be fair, it’s not Barky’s job to impeach himself, put himself in jail, or explain what an idiotic, criminal sack of sh!t he is. That is the job of normal people who are bound to reject sub-human scum like Barky and to hold such affronts to civilization to the law and have them removed from society. It IS the Weeping Boner’s fault that Barky has been allowed to run amok and destroy America.

The Weeping Boner has been complicit in this crime (along with many of the cowardly POS GOPers in the House). If they lend any legitimacy to a strike on Syria they will just be doing more of the same damage they have been doing over the past few years, colluding with Barky to harm the very concept of America (since the Constitutional Republic of America is long gone). The House should be working on impeaching the Indonesian for Libya … and for Benghazi .. and for 70+ other violations of the Constitution and law that the Imbecile has committed. But they shouldn’t give this Syria BS one second’s worth of thought.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Are you saying it’s not important to know what the loony left is saying?

I have to disagree.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 11:55 AM

No, sorry. My “who cares?” was directed at the content of the link, not your linking it. I’ll try to be clearer next time.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Well he did race military assets out there, got them “locked, cocked and ready to rock,” had Kerry come out with the flimsiest of bullshit, issued an Emily Litella, and then went golfing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0

This is the irrational behavior of a mentally ill person. I guess we have to wait until he starts slapping the side of his head and talking in different voices or something.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Ah, I see. I agree with you completely. It’s interesting to see the loons will hang their hats on the flimsiest fabricated thing to fuel their absolute hatred of republicans.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

This is the irrational behavior of a mentally ill person. I guess we have to wait until he starts slapping the side of his head and talking in different voices or something.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM

It’s pretty telling when even a devoted Obama fan-boy like Fareed Zakaria is calling Obama a clueless nitwit over his mishandling of the Syrian affair.

AZCoyote on September 1, 2013 at 12:09 PM

The problem with Syria is that it’s full of weapons, and that once the fighting dies down those weapons will flow out like puss out of a bursting pustule. Our solution of course is to pump more weapons into Syria.

Afterwards will the libs use this against the NRA as a clear demonstration that guns don’t make people safer?

claudius on September 1, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Facelifts, Botox, hair and teeth implants, and nose jobs will all be covered by Obamacare for all public servants in the D.C. area.

mobydutch on September 1, 2013 at 12:10 PM

As I write, Lurch is bloating on NBC, and they’re letting him just go on and on. He keeps saying the same thing. Where’s the proof that Assad gassed his people?

HiJack on September 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM

“President Obama blinked, and this is bad. It is bad for the US’ interests, it’s bad for its allies’ interests and it sends an encouraging message to cruel, unrestrained regimes that possess or don’t possess weapons of mass destruction,” wrote prominent military analyst Ron Ben-Yishai of the Israeli paper Yedioth Aharonot.

That’s a sentiment the Associated Press appeared to echo, writing: “The stunning reversal also raises questions about the president’s decisiveness and could embolden leaders in Syria, Iran, North Korea and elsewhere, leaving them with the impression of a US president unwilling to back up his words with actions.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/01/obama-blinked-why-israelis-are-concerned-obamas-syria-strike-about-face-will-embolden-iran-and-other-foes/

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 12:22 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Nope — Go back and look at anything this president has done, including ObamaCare, where he led Reid, Pelosi and other Democrats do all the work, while he waited until the end to take all the credit (which he’s probably regretting a bit right now).

The whole idea of Obama being elected president — the idea Axelrod sold Obama on if he became president — was that his historic position would anoint him with Absolute Moral Authority, to the point he would never have to work at anything. All he’d do is say “I want national health care!” or anything else, and the minions would do it, while anyone opposed would be branded a racist and written out of the political conversation.

The problem for the Lightworker and his crew is they moronically thought that would work overseas as well. Obama could go to Cairo in 2009, say “I want better relations with the Muslim world!” and all of the terrorists and other Islamic fanatics would simply lay down their arms because George W. Bush isn’t president anymore.

Obama had no Plan B when the Tea Party arose and they couldn’t simply demonize a specific politician or talk radio host to write them out of the political conversation. He’s too cowardly to act unless someone else does the dirty work for him. Same deal with Sryia — there’s no Plan B, except to keep trying to run Plan A over and over again in hopes it might work (he’s trying to attack Putin not on the issue of Russia causing trouble in Syria or elsewhere but over outrage about gay rights at the Olympics, in hopes GLAAD, or the pro-gay rights big media will subdue Vladamir’s ambitions Jello in a microwave has more backbone than this guy).

Obama thought his handlers could demonize Assad enough to get other countries to give him cover, as they did with Gaddafi in Libya. But the British Parliament decided not to be Charlie Brown to Obama’s Lucy-with-the-football again and refused to give him cover. That’s why he went to Congress with the only Plan B he cares about — finding someone else to blame when things fall apart.

jon1979 on September 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM

If Congress votes against military action the Obama has a perfect out to do nothing. And the more I listen to him and the other talking heads I’m beginning to believe that’s exactly what he is looking for, a way out.

“Hey, I was ready to bomb Syria but Congress wouldn’t give me the authority, whatever happens now is all their fault!!”

E9RET on September 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Well, all the scandals are off the front page now, and Obama’s base won’t blame him for anything involving foreign policy because they don’t know anything about foreign policy.

claudius on September 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Paul recalled that Kerry said during the Vietnam War, “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?”

“I would ask, ‘How do you ask a man to be the first to die for a mistake?’” Paul said. “I’m not sending my son, your son or anybody else’s son to fight for a stalemate.”

Paul said he was “proud” of Obama for following the Constitution and asking for congressional support. But he said the president made a “grave mistake” in setting a “red line.” Obama’s push for military action, he said, is an effort to “save face and add bad policy to bad policy.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/09/01/congress-syria-rand-paul-kerry/2752965/

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Hell, he’s losing the click whores over at Salon:

David Sirota @davidsirota

Saying POTUS has right to start war even if Congress votes no = saying the Constitution is a mere suggestion & not the law of the land
4:40 PM – 31 Aug 2013

novaculus on September 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

……..The House needs to tell Barky to stuff it with Syria and that he will be impeached, tossed and criminally prosecuted if he pulls the same sh!t he pulled in Libya (for which he should still be impeached, tossed, and criminally prosecuted).

No one should be feeling any pressure to do jack for anyone in Syria. They are not our problem, though once they stop fighting each other they will return to being problems for us and all civilized interests. As long as the Syrians keep killing each other (using whatever works best to take them all out) the better it is for the civilized world – not for Barky’s world, but for the civilized world.

Great stuff.
Truth is Syria is about Sunni vs. Shia with Syria and Iran representing the shia and much of the rest of the islamic world the Sunni.
Getting in the middle of that clusterfark is a huge mistake. And don’t forget zero is a sunni as are the Saudis who are now paying terror types to go in and do their bidding including shooting of chem weapons whether the perps new they were chem weapons or or not.

rodguy911 on September 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

What the hell?

This is a clusterfark of the highest order. I can’t recall anything even similar in my lifetime.

We are adrift,, leaderless,, and heading for mass conflaguration.

wolly4321 on September 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

“Hey, I was ready to bomb Syria but Congress wouldn’t give me the authority, whatever happens now is all their fault!!”

E9RET on September 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM

And all Congress has to do is point out that Barry himself had already announced that he was only willing to undertake a “very limited” strike that would not have achieved regime change or any other objective. IOW, Barry wanted to lob a few billion dollars’ worth of missiles into Syria as a symbolic gesture of disapproval. He wasn’t prepared to stop Assad, or even do significant damage to Assad’s assets. He just wanted to rattle sabers for a couple of days, so that he “would not be mocked.”

That is not, and never was, a legitimate use of U.S. armed forces — and Congress has both the right and the obligation to say so, and forcefully.

AZCoyote on September 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Kerry is a horse’s azz.

World’s smallest violin

Schadenfreude on September 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Nope — Go back and look at anything this president has done, including ObamaCare, where he led Reid, Pelosi and other Democrats do all the work, while he waited until the end to take all the credit (which he’s probably regretting a bit right now).

The whole idea of Obama being elected president — the idea Axelrod sold Obama on if he became president — was that his historic position would anoint him with Absolute Moral Authority, to the point he would never have to work at anything. All he’d do is say “I want national health care!” or anything else, and the minions would do it, while anyone opposed would be branded a racist and written out of the political conversation.

The problem for the Lightworker and his crew is they moronically thought that would work overseas as well. Obama could go to Cairo in 2009, say “I want better relations with the Muslim world!” and all of the terrorists and other Islamic fanatics would simply lay down their arms because George W. Bush isn’t president anymore.

Obama had no Plan B when the Tea Party arose and they couldn’t simply demonize a specific politician or talk radio host to write them out of the political conversation. He’s too cowardly to act unless someone else does the dirty work for him. Same deal with Sryia — there’s no Plan B, except to keep trying to run Plan A over and over again in hopes it might work (he’s trying to attack Putin not on the issue of Russia causing trouble in Syria or elsewhere but over outrage about gay rights at the Olympics, in hopes GLAAD, or the pro-gay rights big media will subdue Vladamir’s ambitions Jello in a microwave has more backbone than this guy).

Obama thought his handlers could demonize Assad enough to get other countries to give him cover, as they did with Gaddafi in Libya. But the British Parliament decided not to be Charlie Brown to Obama’s Lucy-with-the-football again and refused to give him cover. That’s why he went to Congress with the only Plan B he cares about — finding someone else to blame when things fall apart.
…………………………………
Great stuff here.
It is all about axeldork, val/jar and all his handlers.They make and shape the path of this regime and always have.
Syria has many facets the most important of all is that it takes all eyes off Benghazi,nsa,irs and a host of other impeachable scandals where the regime was in real jeopardy.
The thought of zero actually concerned about kids losing lives in Syria,shia kids, is laughable. Not how it works in the mideast of the Islamic world that zero is a huge part of.

rodguy911 on September 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM

So, was Bradley Manning, er Samantha Power, on TV today?

Schadenfreude on September 1, 2013 at 1:00 PM

US Sen. John McCain confirms he is invited to the White House Monday to talk with President Obama about Syria – @NBCNews

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 1:05 PM

So, John McCain, the wannabe Democrat, has been invited to the White House to talk about Syria. I’m feeling so much better. /

mobydutch on September 1, 2013 at 1:22 PM

he will prevail in congress
-bill kristol on mtp

cmsinaz on September 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Kristol isn’t on fox news sunday anymore? I thought he was a permanent fixture there.

I love how many are praising Obama for going to CONgress now, yet didn’t say a peep when it was Libya. I guess that was just kinetic action.

oryguncon on September 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Rep. Lance – NJ says he is going back to DC tomorrow.

ctmom on September 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Just got back from church. Have we started bombing Syria for humanitarian purposes yet?

txhsmom on September 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM

A Syrian cabinet minister called for a pre-emptive response against the U.S. and the premier said his country wouldn’t be cowed after President Barack Obama asked Congress to approve an attack on Syria.

The U.S. has declared war and Syrians have the right to respond preemptively against U.S. interests with all means available, Syrian Minister for National Reconciliation Ali Haidar said in a phone interview today.

“I am among those who call for a preemptive” response by all Syrians, Haidar said, commenting on Obama’s statement yesterday that he was prepared to use military force against Syria.

Obama asked Congress to authorize a military strike for what the U.S. says is the Syrian government’s use of chemical weapons in an attack that killed more than 1,400 people. Syria denies the allegations and says rebels linked to al-Qaeda and abetted by the country’s enemies carried out the attack.

“It’s unacceptable that a Syrian is afraid to leave his home for fear of the U.S. threat, while an American ambassador can wander about as he pleases,” Haidar said. “It’s unacceptable that our leaders have to go into hiding to protect themselves while U.S. interests are proceeding normally.”

The U.S. has no known interests in Syria. The Syrian government expelled U.S. and other Western diplomats in June 2012.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-01/syria-has-right-to-respond-to-u-s-threat-cabinet-minister-says.html

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 1:51 PM

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Oh goody.

txhsmom on September 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Kristin Stoneking, executive director of the Fellowship of Reconciliation, who spoke at the event to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, asked how we can pay tribute to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s legacy of non-violence as the United States is “poised to attack Syria.” – See more at:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/speaker-how-can-we-pay-tribute-king-legacy-non-violence-we-are-poised-attack-syria

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Gads! It’s almost like Kerry is playing “President”… Kind of an Alexander Haig “I’m in charge” moment.

By the way – easy up on the botox injections, buddy. You look horrible.

Hill60 on September 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Jordan won’t be launchpad for military action against Syria, says minister

http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/upi20130901-220006-8947

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 3:13 PM

No boots on the ground?:

US Navy deploys amphibious ship to Mediterranean

http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/CNG—5a80d0d118478c659056d223eda892ac—381

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I’m not sure how many other people have pointed this out so far, but does it seem that much of a stretch to suggest that these are the WMD’s that Georges Sada claimed Suddam Hussein snuck into Syria right before the Iraq war began? Oh wait, that’s right, John Kerry actually believed there were WMD’s, before he believed against it.

NeverLiberal on September 1, 2013 at 3:18 PM

NeverLiberal on September 1, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Assad had plenty of his own, but yeah he ended up with a lot of Saddam’s WNDs according to several credible sources. The UN audited that stuff before we went in and they had an impressive amount of nasty stuff.

Search the web, you find info about it.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 3:33 PM

The U.S. has declared war and Syrians have the right to respond preemptively against U.S. interests with all means available, Syrian Minister for National Reconciliation Ali Haidar said in a phone interview today.

davidk on September 1, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Is it preemptive if the US declared war? And did congress come back and do that? Wow those folks are as smart as democrats!

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 3:35 PM

That is not, and never was, a legitimate use of U.S. armed forces — and Congress has both the right and the obligation to say so, and forcefully.

AZCoyote on September 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM

In a headline thread we learn that Zero’s definition of a “limited strike” may consist of up to 150 cruise missiles.

That is not a limited anything. That’s all out blitz to destroy Assad’s forces and hand Syria over to Al Qaeda.

dogsoldier on September 1, 2013 at 3:38 PM

That picture of Obama with his foot on the desk of the Oval Office like he’s hiking his leg is just another example of his complete lack of respect for the office.

And yet, THE MEDIA BLESSED ONE can diss Americans as being lazy or acting stupidly but a rodeo clown can’t wear a mask of the DOTUS?

Gotcha.

PappyD61 on September 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM

…….but you gotta give Obama credit he’s UNAFRAID of the opposition party. He has them on their knees begging for mercy.

So he continues to run rings around the hapless gop.

PappyD61 on September 1, 2013 at 3:49 PM

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