UK weaning itself off of coal. And electricity.

posted at 5:31 pm on August 31, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

As we move closer and closer to final decisions on the Obama administration’s new rules on things like cross state emissions limits and new standards for energy facilities which will essentially shut down coal fired plants in the United States, there are some valuable objects lessons to observe. Not all of them are coming from North America, either. Across the pond, our former Special Relationship partners in the UK have been busy complying with European standards to reduce coal energy in the interest of curbing climate change. And so far, they have achieved a smashing level of success, shutting down coal production at a brisk clip. This is no doubt producing much rejoicing among climate change warriors, and they’ll probably be planning some parties to celebrate… assuming they can still turn on the lights.

In June, Ofgem released a capacity assessment warning that “risks to electricity security of supply over the next six winters have increased since our last report in October 2012.” The report warned that Britain’s ability to provide spare electric power capacity could plunge to between 2 to 5 percent, about half what it is now.

The main reason for the possible crunch: Britain is closing a number of aging coal-fired plants—as well as some oil and nuclear ones—to meet European Union environmental laws. One fifth of the existing power stations are scheduled to close over the next ten years. According to Reuters, the U.K. is set to lose more than 12 gigawatts of generating capacity in the next two years. Currently, the country operates 13 coal plants, but nearly half are slated to close by 2015, and all of them could be shut down by 2023, according to government figures.

As the report notes, the Brits are facing the immediate penalty of higher prices long before really wide spread blackouts would take place. It’s the law of supply and demand in action. To meet the demands of the European Union’s liberal climate change laws, their generating capacity is being slashed with no plan in sight to replace the lost supply to the grid with “green” alternatives in the needed amounts. This will come as a huge surprise to anyone who failed to complete elementary level math classes.

The UK is a useful laboratory when looking at what will happen in the United States over a slightly longer period of time. Their nation is much smaller, both in terms of land mass and population, so the effects they feel from changes and the speed with which those take place are on an accelerated curve. It will be interesting to watch, and could give a clue to the long term effects of energy policy here in the United States. Stay tuned, and keep an eye on the UK… assuming anyone has power to operate cameras and broadcast the news to us.


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To meet the demands of the European Union’s liberal climate change laws, their generating capacity is being slashed with no plan in sight to replace the lost supply to the grid with “green” alternatives in the needed amounts.

Crazy, yeah? :)

Food rotting in crates at an African airport because the government does not want genetically modified food distributed, because it’s “potentially harmful.” Meantime, the famine continues.

Axe on August 31, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Somewhere, a coal-rich country is planning to cash in on the coming power shortages by secretly building massive coal-fired power plants and just biding their time…waiting for the grid to crash…and selling gigawatts for gigadollars (or, Euros). I think the place is called….China.

BobMbx on August 31, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Uh, what happens with the EnviroNAZI’s and the animal-rights whacko s when we go back to hunting whales for the oil?

oldleprechaun on August 31, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Why are progressives so against progress?

rbj on August 31, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Progressivepooza!!!

Jihadis like the Muslim Brohood are trying to drag the Middle East back to the 7th Century, and Environmental Nazi Progressives are trying to drag the Industrialized West back too.

All fighting the enlightenment of mankind with the sweet irony that THEY are Progress.

PappyD61 on August 31, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Uh, what happens with the EnviroNAZI’s and the animal-rights whacko s when we go back to hunting whales for the oil?

oldleprechaun on August 31, 2013 at 5:41 PM

We should be looking at how much oil you can get by rendering down some animal-rights whackos and enviro-nazi’s…

Multi-tasking as it were.

trigon on August 31, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Uh, what happens with the EnviroNAZI’s and the animal-rights whacko s when we go back to hunting whales for the oil?

oldleprechaun on August 31, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Chris Christie hardest hit. By a harpoon. Come to think of it, have the Japanese ever stopped whaling? They do it in the name of science. I approve of science.

Fenris on August 31, 2013 at 5:51 PM

On another note, it would seem the last Christian out of Britain won’t have to turn the lights out after all.

trigon on August 31, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Why are progressives so against progress?

rbj on August 31, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Call them regressives instead.

Fenris on August 31, 2013 at 5:53 PM

…dumbphucks!

KOOLAID2 on August 31, 2013 at 5:54 PM

True, all because of of Mann made global warming “climate change,” and Europe itself is doing it to a lesser degree, and Obama wants the US to go down that same self-sacrificing road. The UK must take pride that they are at the forefront of shooting themselves in the foot, well, in the gut, or worse.

In this dangerous world, there was talk in the UK that if they participated in the Syrian strikes, if Russia cut off their gas supplies, the UK would be up a creek. The unparalleled idiocy of the wusses on the left prancing after fanciful windills, while destroying their own country’s conventional energy generating capacity has cost the UK critical energy security. And future could be a true disaster.

What we see is that China’s CO2 emission increase is 25 times the pittance of the decrease in CO2 emissions for all of Europe. So, the costly painful risky program in Europe that is causing virtual bankruptcy, is in effect symbolic, a “statement.” Even if the leftist’s climate change propaganda was true, it would make not an iota’s difference.

And to think that China and other countries that are vigorously developing their own energy generating capacity may be our enemy in the future. We are asleep at the wheel. Energy = vitality, it is what powers production and achievement, with less of it society will wither, and China et al will take the lead. Tell the liberal know-it-all warmists to take a hike with their carbon tax proposals and EPA regulations.

anotherJoe on August 31, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Luddites of the World, Unite!

Three winters ago, seniors had to burn their books to stay warm during the second coldest winter in 500 years. The next year, they had to ride public transportation all day to avoid freezing to death because they had no more books to burn.

Bear in mind, the EnviroNazis told me in the 90s that British children wouldn’t even know what snow was after 2000.

Fracking Luddites, Enough Already!

(If you don’t think that they really want to turn the clock back, take a look at what one of the dude at the protest is wearing.)

Resist We Much on August 31, 2013 at 6:00 PM

VOTE UKIP

ChunkyLover on August 31, 2013 at 6:07 PM

VOTE UKIP

ChunkyLover on August 31, 2013 at 6:07 PM

^5 from one ‘swivel-eyed loon’ to another.

Resist We Much on August 31, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Holy crap. How are they going to keep their telescreens running?

forest on August 31, 2013 at 6:14 PM

They should revive the witch hunts of the early modern era. Think of all the biofuel!

steebo77 on August 31, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Once Obama is gone and America is not stupid enough to elect another “progressive”, a new golden age of coal fired power plants will emerge. The goal should be to kill as much wind and solar as possible. Americans won’t like freezing or sitting in the dark. But it is that stupid part that may kill us all…..

You all will be screaming for Global Warming as you sit in the dark freezing as the next ice age descends.

redguy on August 31, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Holy crap. How are they going to keep their telescreens running?

forest on August 31, 2013 at 6:14 PM

The biggest problem will be how they charge the batteries of their dildos.

redguy on August 31, 2013 at 6:21 PM

I keep saying the USA is firmly on the road to becoming England-west, this just proves it.

Reckless spending, nationalized healthcare, immigrants taking advantage of welfare, rising numbers of citizens on welfare and not working, a declining military and now power problems due to climate ideologues running the country. These are all problems that have plagued England for decades.

You tell me where the US is different anymore, all of these is the US present or future.

cougar on August 31, 2013 at 6:22 PM

I think it will be great. The kids will have ghost story parties in all the old castles. Older kids can have orgies in all the gymnasiums. The work of burglars will progress well. There will still be enough electricity for most adults. Old people will get more peaceful sleep. Maybe I’ll move there.

burt on August 31, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Somewhere, a coal-rich country is planning to cash in on the coming power shortages by secretly building massive coal-fired power plants and just biding their time…waiting for the grid to crash…and selling gigawatts for gigadollars (or, Euros). I think the place is called….China.

BobMbx on August 31, 2013 at 5:39 PM

If electricity could be carried that far, all of it would be generated in China, or India; anywhere not infested with ‘greens’. It’s only because Mexico is so corrupt that ours doesn’t come from there.

Maybe someday we will be able to transmit electricity across oceans.

slickwillie2001 on August 31, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Meh. It’s just preparation for the 12th century mentality that comes with the 900 metric craptons of Muslims they’re importing instead.

VOTE UKIP

ChunkyLover on August 31, 2013 at 6:07 PM

^ That.

Gingotts on August 31, 2013 at 6:27 PM

The Enviro-wackos will ensure that they have a steady supply of electricity. The great unwashed can fend for themselves. At which point, they’ll turn on their “masters”. Let the beheadings begin. Wonder if the Enviro’s will regret turning all their weapons in for destruction?

GarandFan on August 31, 2013 at 6:31 PM

UK weaning itself off of coal. And electricity

…give them time…they’ll be sucking…on the tit again!

KOOLAID2 on August 31, 2013 at 6:36 PM

My collie says:

What does the U.K. need electricity for? Aren’t they well on their way to becoming a muslim country? They could probably use some more tents though. Maybe a few more camels, too. After all, when it came to the mass murder in Syria, didn’t the U.K.’s parliament vote for “Peace in our time!”?

CyberCipher on August 31, 2013 at 6:36 PM

After all, when it came to the mass murder in Syria, didn’t the U.K.’s parliament vote for “Peace in our time!”?

CyberCipher on August 31, 2013 at 6:36 PM

No, it voted for ‘Syria is not our responsibility.’

If mass murder is the test, then why not North Korea, Sudan, Mexico, etc?

Resist We Much on August 31, 2013 at 6:40 PM

It’s the law of supply and demand in action.

I thought liberals repealed that law…. I see, they only act like they did.

paul1149 on August 31, 2013 at 6:40 PM

On the ‘Breaking’ thread, reemerged the ascii facepalm. To reiterate, I did not create that masterpiece nor do I claim ownership of it any more than one can paste in an old crr6 quote of yore.

Still, this is beyond luddite if there is such a thing.

Anyone, here and elsewhere, who has noticed how insignificant we are knows that we are not the masters of our world.

The premise is and has always been false. And, just to shake nonsense, Jake and Lena, the fix for
this ‘understood’ is what? You’ll never hear that, ever.

Meanwhile, I am in awe of the world. All you have to do is wake up and look at the sky, pretty much any time of day, but mornings and evenings are especially nice…

We are here at the mercy, and love, of our parents, and on and on it goes. Be kind. Too simple?

Here’s an example: I smoke cigarettes. I don’t litter, ever. I pick up ‘idontcarerubbish’ all the time.
It is part of responsible, in such a small way as not to be noticed. It makes all the difference to me.

That’s how it should work, but I digress.

Enviro-nazis is a perfect word, I must say.

Well, off to watch 110octane NASCAR for a little while.
Happy Labor over the Day — folks.

They thought I was crazy for thinking that there were more like me on this planet. I give a s#!t.

h/t to alt on that, from last eve.

mickytx on August 31, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Off topic: Does anyone know why Firefox has become almost unusable? It keeps freezing on me and displays “Not Responding” in the header bar. It will come back after a while, but freezes again when I try to scroll, or do anything else. It will work fine for a while when I first open it up, but after a while, the freezes start.

IE works fine, but I dislike using it. Chrome, well, let’s not talk about Chrome.

Kraken on August 31, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Kraken on August 31, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Windows? Reboot, heh. Sorry, you may be being watched. Just kidding, I suppose.
Get a MAC or some aggrieved Linux…

mickytx on August 31, 2013 at 6:54 PM

I read a report how the UK is indeed cutting down on coal. But they’re struggling to keep up with energy demand. So these old plant are converted to burn wood chips. Thing is the UK doesn’t have that many trees. So they import them from the US and other places. The coal was a lot cheaper and cleaner. But environmentalists never look at the economics. And liberals in the UK (I repeat myself) are PO’d that energy costs have tripled in the last 5 to 10 years. And they refuse to acknowledge that they were responsible for it.

MrX on August 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM

More European crises and bailouts on the way.

Philly on August 31, 2013 at 6:59 PM

The UK must take pride that they are at the forefront of shooting themselves in the foot, well, in the gut, or worse.

anotherJoe on August 31, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Sorry to disagree, but that’s not possible – they’ve already confiscated all the guns….
The Brits might still be able to stab or club themselves in the foot, but no way they shoot……
:)

dentarthurdent on August 31, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Police: 2 Women Gang Raped By Juveniles In Wilmington Park
Suspects Range In Age From 12 To 17-Years-Old

Anyone care to take a “wild guess” what race the gang rapists are? Whose sons they look like?

Well isn’t this a surprise. More Sons of Obama. Well knock me over with a feather.

Police say two women, ages 32 and 24, were reportedly attacked and sexually assaulted by a group of 10 to 12 black male juveniles in Kosciuszko Park at about 6:54 p.m. Thursday. According to police, the suspects, who range in age from 12 to 17-years-old, remain on the loose.

Of course, this is just yet another of those “isolated incidents” that in no way is part of any kind of pattern and it’s best just to not talk about it.

VorDaj on August 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM

from an historical perspective I think the changes are fascinating. The deep urban myths that permeate the western culture are actually very primitive….like we are not really the ‘advanced’ civilization that we think we are.

100 years ago very bright people actually made the world better for people…and there was actual progress. Telegraphy, Cotton Gins, Cars, radio, airplanes, etc.

Eventually everyone benefited from the telephone and cars (and gasoline)

but at some point much of the ‘elite’ turned their back on that. Now that is really stupid, I know. Steinmetz and Edison did so much for the progress of the world. Now, seriously, what are the inner drives of those who are turning the western world away from the great progress of 100 years ago?

there are always cranks and misfits, but intellectual leaders have usually looked forward and (at least in the US) did so for the benefit of our citizens. Even in socialist/communist countries the leaders want to move forward. The soviets had a big military, advanced aircraft. China exports lots of goods which helps its people (not to mention building nuclear plants)

no doubt the antipathy for this county is a large part of the elite culture. Perhaps it is simple narcissism, greed and short sighted behavior. They think they’ll be in the gated communities inside the wire that divides them from the slums.

r keller on August 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Mohammedians believe in first cousin marriage and other details about mohamet’s life. They can live in darkness.

Murphy9 on August 31, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Obama doesn’t care. Honey Boo Boo may be the next president.

alanstern on August 31, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Being that they are on an island and are likely importing most of their coal I don’t see a good comparison between the UK and US. Jazz is at it again with awful blurbs that really ruin what used to be quality conservative discussion.

jayhawkboilermaker on August 31, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Eco-friendly feudalism is right around the corner! How romantic!

Punchenko on August 31, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Honey Boo Boo may be the next president.

alanstern on August 31, 2013 at 7:24 PM

I don’t think Jeb is running.

Punchenko on August 31, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Maybe someday we will be able to transmit electricity across oceans.

slickwillie2001 on August 31, 2013 at 6:25 PM

All you need is to lay the cable. There are copper and fiber optic cables already wrapped around the world, its just a matter of size.

Or this.

BobMbx on August 31, 2013 at 8:23 PM

VorDaj on August 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM

I can tell you that the Walmart here wouldn’t hire me, for even off hours of ‘doing stock’.

I think it’d be fun for a break from software, for a few hours, everyday. There are some ‘would-be’s that aren’t thugs for that. I speak with them. Encourage them. Hell, I’m a cooperative collector of shopping carts. They were on my way with this one shopping cart that I had, so why not?

Shrubs in the valley. The outlook is good for them.

I am a tanned, black Irish (causcasian, dontchaknow) of immense passion. An optimist for people.

The tan is thanks to the TX sun, and how I love it so.
Makes any sense to any or all?

Simple stuff. People.

mickytx on August 31, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Don’t care about the Brits electricity, they’ll figure that out on their own.

As for us, we can get away from coal to a large extent if we FRACK BITCHEZ!!!

I’ve got leases that haven’t been drilled yet, and baby needs a new pair of shoes.

Meremortal on August 31, 2013 at 8:50 PM

just for shi!s and giggles….let’s say they are 100% wrong about global warming and instead we are entering into a cooling period. how many thousands will die from the cold over the course of the next decade.

Hell let’s say they are 100% right about global warming. And the earth is getting warmer. How many thousands will die form heat exposure, spoiled food etc because there wasn’t enough electricity to turn on the A/C or refrigerator.

Either way you look at it. warming or cooling cutting power down will cause massive deaths and sickness. the only way the loss of life would be manageable is if everything stays the same. And I got to tell you nothing stays the same.

In short these people are nuts. Instead of expanding their economy, and using the wealth and longer life that an expanding economy brings to prepare for the changes coming they want to stick their heads in the sand like a big freaking bird and wish away the coming problems.

unseen on August 31, 2013 at 8:51 PM

I’d bet that are plenty of Brits who are just wishing, hoping, praying that somebody somewhere would start actually, finally, for once, start shipping “coals to Newcastle.”

coldwarrior on August 31, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Being that they are on an island and are likely importing most of their coal I don’t see a good comparison between the UK and US. Jazz is at it again with awful blurbs that really ruin what used to be quality conservative discussion.

jayhawkboilermaker on August 31, 2013 at 7:49 PM

UK is rich in coal.

unseen on August 31, 2013 at 8:53 PM

I’m just wondering how much longer people will accept these things from a more and more out of touch government before they revolt.

unseen on August 31, 2013 at 8:55 PM

no doubt the antipathy for this county is a large part of the elite culture. Perhaps it is simple narcissism, greed and short sighted behavior. They think they’ll be in the gated communities inside the wire that divides them from the slums.

r keller on August 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM

It’s hard to rule a wealthy population. Much easier to rule a poor population. the more wealth citizens have the less they need government to “help” them. the more wealth the citizens have the greater their freedom of movement, the more wealth a citizen has the more time they have to spend on other things like keeping a check on their government, educating themselves, raising their families instead of having the government raise them.

the elites understand for them to have total control of the people the people must be poor but not too poor. But poor enough so they live pay check to pay check.

unseen on August 31, 2013 at 9:00 PM

.let’s say they are 100% wrong about global warming and instead we are entering into a cooling period. how many thousands will die from the cold over the course of the next decade.

Hell let’s say they are 100% right about global warming. And the earth is getting warmer. How many thousands will die from heat exposure, spoiled food etc because there wasn’t enough electricity to turn on the A/C or refrigerator.

Either way you look at it, warming or cooling, cutting power down will cause massive deaths and sickness. The only way the loss of life would be manageable is if everything stays the same. And I got to tell you nothing stays the same.

In short these people are nuts. Instead of expanding their economy, and using the wealth and longer life that an expanding economy brings to prepare for the changes coming they want to stick their heads in the sand like a big freaking bird and wish away the coming problems.

unseen on August 31, 2013 at 8:51 PM

But they don’t see megadeaths of evil humans who despoil Holy Mother Gaia as a problem. Rather, they see it as their Goddess’ righteous vengeance on the evil humans- defined as “everybody except us.”

They aren’t “sticking their heads in the sand”. (That’s the “doomsday preppers”, actually.) They’re actively doing everything in their (considerable political) power to turn out the lights on Western civilization. Forever. They are determined to rule a socialist feudal state from their castles, and having all the (surviving) serfs living in mud huts.

And then, they believe, they can teleconference over their Iphones, arguing long into the night about which of them is The One Ultimate, Most Perfect Socialist.

When the Iphones won’t work due to the infrastructure being gone, look for them to resort to witch hunts.

“If we sacrifice the Evil Ones, Holy Mother Gaia will bring back the Net!!”

Magical thinking is all they’ve ever had. And they deeply resent anyone who doesn’t agree that it works.

Plus, I strongly suspect that a lot of them want to watch others die just for the thrill, sexual or otherwise. After all, we are talking about the crowd that watches Jackass.

clear ether

eon

eon on August 31, 2013 at 9:15 PM

“If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

That concept has been around for over a 100 years.

And, the elites, our betters, so-called educated society…in UK…and here, much more, it seems…is how the entire concept of Fabian Socialism and Progressivism found firm and fertile root.

Unfortunately, under progressive or Fabian socialist policies uber-religious beliefs, those who least deserve it, will perish, and those who deserve to perish most, will remain.

coldwarrior on August 31, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I’m just wondering how much longer people will accept these things from a more and more out of touch government before they revolt.

unseen on August 31, 2013 at 8:55 PM

That’s what “Project X” was is for.

Shy Guy on August 31, 2013 at 11:22 PM

We are being ruled and destroyed by the surviving Golgafrinchan exiles.

dentarthurdent on August 31, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Yeah, and there’s no Florida or Arizona to escape the cold winter. Brilliant!

yubley on September 1, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Being that they are on an island and are likely importing most of their coal I don’t see a good comparison between the UK and US. Jazz is at it again with awful blurbs that really ruin what used to be quality conservative discussion.

jayhawkboilermaker on August 31, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Now, that’s embarrassing. What a silly American!

yubley on September 1, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Now, that’s embarrassing. What a silly American!

yubley on September 1, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Wasn’t there some project underway to wall off some bay and generate electricity from the tide?

Did that ever happen, and how did it work out?

WryTrvllr on September 1, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Doing the math would indicate whether the modern society would be able to survive, much less operate as before, on what might be a very inadequate amount of electricity capacity.

I have wondered if we or anyone actually has to go to the bitter end and experience the brownouts, blackouts, and grid failures with all the collateral effects before people realize that, despite concerns about climate change, there are things that modern society has grown up to expect and will find very hard to do without anymore. An adequate and reliable supply of electricity being a significant component.

Russ808 on September 1, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Meh, what with the influx of the Islamic hordes the Brits are figuratively back to the Dark Ages, so getting there literally seems the logical next step.

whatcat on September 1, 2013 at 2:21 AM

They should revive the witch hunts of the early modern era. Think of all the biofuel!

steebo77 on August 31, 2013 at 6:15 PM


Climate Change Witch Hunts.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on September 1, 2013 at 3:09 AM

Wasn’t there some project underway to wall off some bay and generate electricity from the tide?

Did that ever happen, and how did it work out?

WryTrvllr on September 1, 2013 at 12:49 AM

It was looking great. They spent loads of cash on r&d, and were ready to start, when a baby turtle appeared out of nowhere. End of story.

Squiggy on September 1, 2013 at 6:46 AM

Yeah, just like in America leftist environmentalist stooges expect people to live off solar, wind and gerbil droppings and take the power out of the batteries once they recharge. Progressives are supposed to be pro union but ignore coal unions. Politics as usual.

mike0993 on September 1, 2013 at 9:14 AM

No longer even able to carry coal to Newcastle. Sad…

MarkT on September 1, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Thorium.

Makes a lot of this back and forth redundant.

KMC1 on September 1, 2013 at 11:10 AM

“If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”

Scrooge at least had the semi-legitimate complaint of being basically robbed to pay for charity, which at that point in time was so brutal I wouldn’t wish it on modern liberal ‘poor’.

But deliberately withholding coal and light from the lower classes to MAKE their numbers decrease is a whole different animal. You go from flirting with negligent homicide to deliberate murder by deprivation. It would be very little worse than, say, spraying Agent Orange on the crop fields of some Third-World nation to cause a famine.

MelonCollie on September 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Being that they are on an island and are likely importing most of their coal I don’t see a good comparison between the UK and US. Jazz is at it again with awful blurbs that really ruin what used to be quality conservative discussion.

jayhawkboilermaker on August 31, 2013 at 7:49 PM

I don’t know how it is today, but England used to produce their own coal domestically.

Midas on September 1, 2013 at 2:54 PM

You go from flirting with negligent homicide to deliberate murder by deprivation. It would be very little worse than, say, spraying Agent Orange on the crop fields of some Third-World nation to cause a famine.

MelonCollie on September 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

The British NHS apparently isn’t killing people fast enough, so now they are going to try the Stalin Soviet model. Look into the histroy of what Stalin did to Ukraine. It was exactly what you describe.

dentarthurdent on September 1, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Here’s a thought…

Moslem Outreach.

That is all this is.

Turn the entire countryside into something resembling the suburbs of Kandahar, no vegetation…no electricity…devoid of population.

Should make the Mohammedans happy…those wily Brits, going out of their way to make sure the Moslems feel at home.

Other than that, I blame the Rover 3500.

coldwarrior on September 1, 2013 at 4:37 PM

I love this story. My personal theory, with no evidence to support it (but why let that stop me) is that lefties think magic will solve our economic issues, solve power generation, solve whatever. They’re free to keep setting their crazy ideas in stone as law, because there is no real price to pay!

England going dark ought to be an instructive moment for the Bill McKibben worshipers. At least, I hope it is.

MTF on September 1, 2013 at 7:19 PM

The Ecotards want people to die, they just won’t man up and offer to be the first !

rgranger on September 1, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Remember when these same people hated Thatcher over coal-mining?

Tzetzes on September 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM

what if everyone learned to use less electricity? turned off lights? ran the AC less? What if they could enjoy the same standard of living without the old coal plants. That would be good, right?

tlynch001 on September 2, 2013 at 8:47 PM