Video: Chicago makes sex-ed mandatory for kindergarteners

posted at 2:51 pm on August 30, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Has Chicago solved all of its other educational issues?  We’ll get back to that in a moment, but that must be what the Chicago Public School District believes.  Starting this year, kindergarten classes must carve out 30 minutes a month for sex-education classes, and the local CBS affiliate reports that parents aren’t exactly thrilled:

CPS emphasizes that the sex-ed effort is aimed at protecting children from abuse:

CPS insists the curriculum will use language children understand and focus on topics like bullying, correct names for external body parts and the difference between appropriate and inappropriate touching.

“As you identify body parts, you talk about should you be touched here or not.,” said Stephanie Whyte, the CPS Chief Health Officer. “And if someone touches you, and it’s uncomfortable, you should tell a trusted adult.”

“I’m OK with it,” said parent Ayesha Ahmad. “I’d like to believe it’s not necessary, but I think our culture dictates you can’t start early enough.”

But that’s not quite all that will be taught in these classes.  Besides anatomically-correct nomenclature and a heads-up on identifying abuse, kindergarteners will also get taught the prevailing values of the school system about family structures:

Students will also take a look at the different family structures that exist in today’s society.

“Whether that means there’s two moms at home, everyone’s home life is different, and we introduce the fact that we all have a diverse background, “ said Whyte

That’s a lesson some conservative organizations oppose.

This brings up at least two big issue. First, children of this age aren’t going to have the sophistication to process this kind of instruction and compare it to the value systems which families use in their own homes.  That’s the kind of issue that mothers and fathers should address with their children when they reach the appropriate age, not for schools to dictate as soon as they get kids in their clutches. Furthermore, when parents conflict with the teachers on this point, that will undermine the authority and credibility of the teachers, at the most formative age possible.  There simply isn’t a need to address this at the kindergarten stage.

Second, this shows why public schools are failing to educate students, especially in Chicago.  Just this year, after CPS aligned its standardized tests to the actual outcomes of grade-level reading and arithmetic, Chicago parents learned that only 52.5% of students between the 3rd and 8th grades could pass that test:

The number of Chicago Public Schools students that met state standards on the Illinois Standards Achievement Test plummeted this year because officials raised the bar for what it takes to pass.

Only 52.5 percent of 3rd through 8thgraders met or exceeded reading and math standards — nearly a 22 point drop from last year. But officials said the new test scores are a more accurate portrait of the performance of the city’s public school students and noted that 65 percent of schools actually showed progress.

Since the state decided in January to raise the cutoff scores for the Illinois Standards Achievement Test to get schools ready for the more rigorous Common Core curriculum, districts have been warning parents not to be shocked by the expected drop in test scores. Chicago is the first district in Illinois to release its scores, showing the steepness of that drop. The Illinois State Board of Education is expected to release statewide test data in October.

At CPS, the number of students meeting or exceeding state standards went down from 74.2 percent last year to 52.5 percent this year.

CPS told parents not to worry, because it didn’t mean that their children were performing any worse than they had been before, but just that they’d raised the testing bar to … expectations of grade-level performance. That’s more of an indictment of the tests CPS used in the past, and its consistent level of incompetence.  And this new effort is a good example of why only half of CPS students can perform at grade level — because school districts are more concerned with social norming than they are with actually educating children.

Schools should focus on education. Value formation is best left to the parents.


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Everyone notice: Trolls toss out terms by rote, but never ‘waste time’ defining them.

Liam on August 30, 2013 at 6:12 PM

To add to my last: It’s like being told,”If you really knew me, you wouldn’t have to ask what’s bothering me.”

Liam on August 30, 2013 at 6:13 PM

. Public roads are education is and always have has been a deal with the devil and when you make that deal, you don’t get to set the terms.

Armin Tamzarian on August 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM

For effect.

Now Armin you don’t use those roads that are paid for by stolen money? Right?

CW on August 30, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Always telling the questions the trolls avoid.

Too hard.

CW on August 30, 2013 at 6:17 PM

For effect.

Now Armin you don’t use those roads that are paid for by stolen money? Right?

CW on August 30, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Rich Armin knows better than those of us who have been husbands and fathers, though he has never been either and never will or wants to be.

His fave movie line seems, “Bow before Zod!”

Liam on August 30, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Always telling the questions the trolls avoid.

Too hard.

CW on August 30, 2013 at 6:17 PM

They throw out the terms, yet refuse always to define them.

And they dare to say we speak in ‘code’?

Liam on August 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM

“Jimmy ! Don’t eat that ! put it down, its a condom…not candy”….
“You, remember, don’t you ?…. you put in over Mr. banana, just before nap time yesterday …you silly !”
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Not for the mouths or ears of babes….

FlaMurph on August 30, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Trolls and liberal are that proverbial barrel of monkeys that nothing is more fun than.

Liam on August 30, 2013 at 6:23 PM

“Jimmy ! Don’t eat that ! put it down, its a condom…not candy”….
“You, remember, don’t you ?…. you put in over Mr. banana, just before nap time yesterday …you silly !”
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Not for the mouths or ears of babes….

FlaMurph on August 30, 2013 at 6:22 PM

According to liberals, you’re a ‘bad’ parent if you don’t want that for your children.

Liam on August 30, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Something else I meant to mention: How will all this “gay marriage” movement affect and distort the normal childhood relationships of children? Instead of little girls having other little girls as friends (and dittos for boys) it will now be complicated with the possibility that a friendship can be an amorous relationship which could lead to “marriage”. Does she like me or does she love me? Does she want to play tag or be my wyfe/partner? Add a little sex ed and it will be all about Suzie and Janies’ vajayjay and other aspects of their “gender” and “sexuality” not who they are as innocent children seeking friendship/playmates. This does a huge disservice to children (the vast majority of whom will grow up to be heterosexual). Suddenly there is no “safe place” for anyone to simply pursue normal friendships – and yes, the irony is thick here.

Buy Danish on August 30, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Perhaps Kindergartens could take 30 minutes a month to teach these young people how to read. Then they might stand a chance of thinking for themselves.

Oh, wait…

JohnGalt23 on August 30, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Suddenly there is no “safe place” for anyone to simply pursue normal friendships – and yes, the irony is thick here.

Buy Danish on August 30, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Liberals always say Conservatives are ‘obsessed’ with sex, like they claim were the Puritans. But, if the tales be trues, Puritans never discussed the matter, especially in public.

Liberals, on the other hand, talk about it all the tie and intend to impose adult matters on five-year-olds.

Who are the ones with obsession here…?

Liam on August 30, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Something else I meant to mention: How will all this “gay marriage” movement affect and distort the normal childhood relationships of children? …..
Buy Danish on August 30, 2013 at 6:25 PM

If they are going to teach them this stuff they should teach them that less than 3-5% of people are homosexuals ( quite possibly closer to 1%). The implication in the media and modern culture would make one believe the number is far larger.

CW on August 30, 2013 at 6:31 PM

I think this has been posted before but worth a “re-post” :

“It’s clearly moved, but the idea that the American people are, you know, universally for same-sex marriage is just not backed (up),” Reed said. He added: “They have, after all, voted in 31 state referenda and initiatives for traditional marriage. Only three have they voted the other way. So this thing tests very differently at the ballot box than it does in a poll.”

So are they right? Are the polls often wrong?

In a word, yes — at least to some degree. Polls on gay marriage ballot initiatives generally under-estimate the opposition to gay marriage by about seven percentage points, according to a 2010 study by New York University political science professor Patrick J. Egan.

CW on August 30, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Jetboy when it comes right down to it you’re really just another b*tch who cannot handle the truth. No 90% of Americans are not gay. So quit dreaming. You been blessed with a sexuality that has put you to the point that you will swallow another man’s semen and participate in male on male anal sex. Must be pretty sad.

CW on August 30, 2013 at 4:25 PM

You are too precious <3

Full of shiz up to your eyeballs…but oh so precious!

JetBoy on August 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Torches, pitchforks, tar & feathers!

Another Drew on August 30, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Wow, CW…for someone who abhors gays you sure are spending a lot of time on this thread yapping about…gays.

Just sayin’, shmoopy. ;)

JetBoy on August 30, 2013 at 6:39 PM

According to liberals, you’re a ‘bad’ parent if you don’t want that for your children.
Liam on August 30, 2013 at 6:24 PM

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Oh, and I am a really , really bad parent. One segment of my parenting deals with the rejection of the disgusting evils of one man putting his reproductive organ into the rectal canal ( OK, I say poopy chute) of another man- and warn the yute NOT to believe anyone who tells them that’s natural.
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I’m equally bad by avoiding any discussion regarding the multi-colored strap on Dill-doe sexual deviation females tend to embrace. Just ain’t going there.
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(Hope our NSA monitor is not pro-stool pusher)

FlaMurph on August 30, 2013 at 6:44 PM

but oh so precious!

JetBoy on August 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Wow, CW…for someone who abhors gays you sure are spending a lot of time on this thread yapping about…gays.

Just sayin’, shmoopy. ;)

JetBoy on August 30, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I see I bothered you a bit.

You’re as fallacious as Libfree in your tactics. Really lame buddy.
When we see the schools working to pass off homosexuality as normal it is just plain wrong. When we see them trying to do it at younger and younger ages we have the right and duty to speak up.

Hey you’re not alone in the dehumanizing of yourself. Must be tough knowing that is the only way you can get off. No wonder alcoholism and suicide is so common in the homosexual culture. Take a swig buddy. I imagine you have to.

CW on August 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM

who abhors gays you sure are spending a lot of time on this thread yapping about…gays.

JetBoy on August 30, 2013 at 6:39 PM

BTW actually anyone with any logic would realize that I would be completely consistent in all my yapping. When do you see the most posts here at HA or on any political site? When people disagree or when they disagree? Now be honest….I know you can.

CW on August 30, 2013 at 6:53 PM

I’m simultaneously happy and sad I missed this thread.

Bishop on August 30, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Full of shiz up to your ….
JetBoy on August 30, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Not sure what you mean. You’re the expert on that weird slang. Learn that at a “parade”?

My goodness you guys have perverted so many good words:

Parade, gay, rainbow, love,……

I am sure there are more.

CW on August 30, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Before the progressives added sex education to their classrooms the rates of sexually transmitted diseases and out of marraige births was very small.

The breakdown of the family, and values, can be traced to this ongoing ‘progress to perversion’ idea for America.

Of course, this latest adjustment will lead to even younger children either giving birth or racing to get an abortion.

‘The more the plans fail, the more the planners plan, as though nothing can ever be traced back to their plans’.

Freddy on August 30, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Don’t they already have Bert and Ernie?

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 7:17 PM

i’m against homosexuality but i’m also against any kind of sexuality being taught to kids that young. ugh. why don’t liberals understand that kids are not adults? their brains work differently. do liberals just forget that? they’re not us. we’re not them. we can’t talk to them like we talk to each other. talk to them about sexual things and they will not understand and it will damage them. there are kids who are mentally damaged about sex for years and years and years after childhood. this is so disturbing. i’m so worried abut those kids…

Sachiko on August 30, 2013 at 7:18 PM

oh yeah and, why does school need to teach kids that some people have two mommies? kids will observe that on their own, so i wonder why the school feels the need to tell them? hmm, call me crazy but maybe the school is doing this to try to force kids into thinking that homosexuality is totally fine and okay. naaaah i’m sure that’s definitely not what the school is doing.

Sachiko on August 30, 2013 at 7:20 PM

The breakdown of the family, and values,

Freddy on August 30, 2013 at 6:59 PM

The left has a weird definition of “progress”.

CW on August 30, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Like Kate at SDA here in America’s Hat© says,

A Single Child Groomed Is A Crime
A million children groomed is a “curriculum”.

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/the-children-ar-68.html

mt

Mistahtibbs on August 30, 2013 at 7:23 PM

oh yeah and, why does school need to teach kids that some people have two mommies? kids will observe that on their own, so i wonder why the school feels the need to tell them? hmm, call me crazy but maybe the school is doing this to try to force kids into thinking that homosexuality is totally fine and okay. naaaah i’m sure that’s definitely not what the school is doing.

Sachiko on August 30, 2013 at 7:20 PM

It also makes it possible that the homosexual subculture will gain a few new recruits.

slickwillie2001 on August 30, 2013 at 7:39 PM

New Steyn…

An Accidental War

Resist We Much on August 30, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Protection or indoctrination?

Indoctrination.

The CPS system has trouble graduating HS students. Many, probably most, who do graduate cannot read, write, and do basic arithmetic at what was once considered an 8th grade level.

So why is it so important to teach kindergarteners about sex-ed? Seriously, does sex-ed belong in kindergarten at all? Why do the bureaucrats running the CPS have the time to waste on this? They don’t have anything better to do?

Only government employed social engineers care. And all of these government employed social engineers are libs and left-wing socialists.

farsighted on August 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM


Antonio Gramsci.

petefrt on August 30, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Indoctrination.

David Blue on August 30, 2013 at 9:33 PM

hmm, call me crazy but maybe the school is doing this to try to force kids into thinking that homosexuality is totally fine and okay. naaaah i’m sure that’s definitely not what the school is doing.

Sachiko on August 30, 2013 at 7:20 PM

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It also makes it possible that the homosexual subculture will gain a few new recruits.

slickwillie2001 on August 30, 2013 at 7:39 PM

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Shhhhhhhhhh . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Jet’ might hear you.

listens2glenn on August 30, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Meanwhile … in Wilmington, Delaware …

2 Women Gang Raped By 10-12 black Juveniles In Wilmington Park

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/08/30/police-2-women-gang-raped-by-juveniles-in-wilmington-park/

Pork-Chop on August 30, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Something else I meant to mention: How will all this “gay marriage” movement affect and distort the normal childhood relationships of children? …..
Buy Danish on August 30, 2013 at 6:25 PM

You know, that’s a damn good point/question. It would take a whole website to discuss it all in detail.

Suffice it to say, they just don’t think they way we do. Issues of morality and religion are to them very arbitrary. There is no God in white robes, no Final Judgment, no Pearly Gates and so on. There is only the “is” of the Universe-matter and energy. And Nature made them enlightened and imbued with the Secret Knowledge, because that happens in every universe to some portions of that consciousness, but not to others. The rest of us are un-enlightened, corruptible, programmable machines and can be exploited without remorse. They know that it could easily be them in that position, but since they aren’t, it really doesn’t matter one way or another.

They are Satanists, but to them Satan isn’t some really, really mean guy with horns on his head. Satan represents not only the antithesis of a God that seeks to reign in their special insights, desires and powers, but the idea that it’s all a game, if you will, that whether won or lost, again, doesn’t really matter. Playing it and knowing that it’s a game (while the rest of us Goyim, sheeple, anthropoids are asleep) is what tickles their fancy.

They don’t believe in the finality of death. Think on what George Orwell was telling us about these people through O’Brien’s character. This life is one of many and their consciousness carries on. This is why they can patiently fight for the enslavement of Mankind through Socialism. They know it may not happen in their lifetimes. They are working now in order to condition this planet/Universe to be more palatable to their consciousnesses in the future.

You have to read their stuff and pay attention to their beliefs in film. I’ve seen enough myself and find it to be scary and revolting.

And if you think what they believe doesn’t matter, fine. They’re running the show. They’ve been around long before Karl Marx was born and they’ll be around long after we’re gone. Our goal should be to figure out how to minimize their influence and defuse them somehow, but I fear they are too powerful now.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Sure… they’ve done so well in teaching math and reading, why wouldn’t you want these same nitwits teaching sex education to 6 year-olds? /s

http://www.theatlantic.com/misc/global-report-card/

dpduq on August 31, 2013 at 12:05 AM

They can’t teach math. They can’t teach English. There’s isn’t a chance in hell these kids will end up actually learning anything about sex.

Ronnie on August 31, 2013 at 12:22 AM

You bytch about ‘conservatives’ all the time. But your term is just an objectification because of your own head.

You have never been one of us, when many Conservatives have been liberal before.

It’s not about somehow avoiding what needs to be known. It’s a question of timing.

Kindergarteners need not know of adult things like this or anything else you might postulate.

Liam on August 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Ask liefreely about age of consent laws. You’ll see where he’s coming from.

Aldous Huxley had it exactly right with his book, Brave New World. This is nothing different than what they did in those books with children eventually taught to fornicate. Orgy-porgy indeed.

njrob on August 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM

To all who proclaim the gay rights campaign is just a benign civil rights movement that does not negatively impact anyone else, here is the truth to that lie.

The desegregationist civil rights movement did not need to “teach” children the common humanity of blacks or the validity of a mixed-race family.

The women’s lib movement did not have to “teach” the “equal value” of single-parent families that sprung up under increased divorces.

Yet now this. Why? Why do for this movement what was completely unnecessary for any other civil rights movement?

Because blacks and women believe in God and understand the necessity of a natural order while gays have a vested interest in rewriting morality so that the fundamentals and the ends consist of constant consideration of nothing but personal sexual gratification. This requires the death of God and Church and natural order. Civil rights do not demand this, but homosexuality does.

This is not about civil rights. It is about special rights and power.

This is proof.

StubbleSpark on August 31, 2013 at 12:58 AM

The GLBT Bunny hops through pre-school to make sure Jamal and Jeanie and Rick and Maya don’t form any hatecrime thought processes.

Long Live Big Sister!

profitsbeard on August 31, 2013 at 1:50 AM

StubbleSpark on August 31, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Good post!

I am so thankful I am able to send my child to a private Christian school where this kind of junk isn’t an issue. Kids are allowed to be kids there, and it shows in the joy on their faces.

We actually had her in the public schools until about the middle of 2nd grade. I am glad my wife finally saw the light in pulling her out of the public schools, as I was completely tired of receiving their “red-flag” letters that they would send when they wanted us to know they were going to start teaching about different kinds of “families” and that kind of coded crap, and the letters always said that “under Wisconsin statute somethingorother, parents have a right to review the curriculum to…”
I kept thinking, what in the blazes are they thinking of putting in my child’s head that they need to send a warning letter home first?!

And so I would ALWAYS go to the school to ask the teacher about it. And while they were nice about it – usually – they never showed me any of the books or told me enough about the specifics about what they were teaching to my satisfaction. So I would always opt my daughter out. Thankfully we could. One teacher was very understanding about it, but another one in a previous year tried to make me feel like I was the only parent doing that. Even if I was, I would still do it. I don’t care what they think of me, my daughter’s innocence and childhood isn’t up for grabs.

Sterling Holobyte on August 31, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Hyper-sexualized children? No problemo.

Police: 2 Women Gang Raped By Juveniles In Wilmington Park
Suspects Range In Age From 12 To 17-Years-Old

WILMINGTON, Del. (CBS) — Neighbors near Kosciuszko Park in Wilmington expressed anger and outrage Friday, after learning the details of a brutal gang-rape that happened in the park Thursday.

Police say two women, ages 32 and 24, were reportedly attacked and sexually assaulted by a group of 10 to 12 black male juveniles in Kosciuszko Park at about 6:54 p.m. Thursday. According to police, the suspects, who range in age from 12 to 17-years-old, remain on the loose…

“Who told you that it was ok to mistreat women to this magnitude? And what do you need from society so that you can make better choices,” said Wilmington Councilwoman Sherry Dorsey-Walker, whose district includes the park.
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The fact that this ahole councilwoman would ask such a question reveals the problem: “society” owes you something. Even two women walking in the park in the evening owe you something. I guess society hasn’t given them enough sex ed.

What they need “from society” is fifty lashes and fifteen years on the chain gang. What they’ll get is clean records when they’re eighteen.

Akzed on August 31, 2013 at 7:52 AM

Because blacks and women believe in God and understand the necessity of a natural order while gays have a vested interest in rewriting morality so that the fundamentals and the ends consist of constant consideration of nothing but personal sexual gratification. This requires the death of God and Church and natural order. Civil rights do not demand this, but homosexuality does.

This is not about civil rights. It is about special rights and power.

This is proof.

StubbleSpark on August 31, 2013 at 12:58 AM

That’s not true. It’s also about who they love, who their close relationships are with. (And to be clear, even acknowledging it’s not only about “sexual gratification”, I do not believe this is an argument for marriage.) The point is that the government/state schools (or prog private schools for that matter) should not be using innocent children to promote an agenda which can disrupt the normal development of children. It’s up to parents to describe these “differences” to children at a time of their choosing, and ideally to allow children to develop their own identities naturally without outside influences which can distort and damage the natural order for each child.

Buy Danish on August 31, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Passing grade for eighth grade math on the Prairie State Exam is 38%

So, what did they raise it to, 40%?

Thank goodness for being able o homeschool our children!

herm2416 on August 31, 2013 at 10:15 AM

No surprise; liberal agenda proceeding apace. Must get that indoctrination working ever younger! Can’t risk letting parents have too much influence over the way kids think, that’d make things harder for the libs!

Midas on August 31, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Who knew that “prostitot” was going to move from cultural rot to a profession for children?

Stoic Patriot on August 31, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Gee, it would be tempting to move out of Chicago over this, but there’s so much to love about the city. Like the crime rate.

The Rogue Tomato on August 31, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Five year olds do not need to be taught this.

Heterosexual sexuality is hard enough for a child of NINE to understand, but then you want to introduce alternate sexuality into the mix. UGH!

Why can’t our children be children?

If they are doing this because of the pro-gay agenda. THey don’t have to introduce sexuality. That can be done by saying NO ONE different desearves to be bullied, and people grow up differently- PERIOD. A simplistic message is better at that age anyways.

melle1228 on August 31, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Why do conservatives oppose telling kindergarten the fact that some households have two moms and two dads. Children normally take this news with about as much interest as the news that the sky is blue. What do conservatives think happens to a kindergartner who is taught that. Truly, I am curious.

libfreeordie on August 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Conservatives oppose it being packaged under the gay agenda. Kindergartens understand simplistic. Simply tell tham that every family is different. When you start introducing alternate sexuality when heterosexuality is hard enough for a Kindergartener to understand; you are asking for trouble and confusion.

Kids should not be sexualized before they are ready. I have a six year old. We are really open with our children. She has a hard enough time understanding HETEROSEXUAL behavior. Introducing alternate sexualities to 5 year old is confusing as heck. Like I said, the simplistic message is NO ONE should be bullied and people have different families. YOu don’t need to single out gay groups to do this.

This is pro-gay indoctrination packaged as a “school service message.”

melle1228 on August 31, 2013 at 11:01 AM

So five-year olds can draw two boys kissing for a grade, but if they ever draw a rifle…

Akzed on August 31, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Why do conservatives oppose telling kindergarten the fact that some households have two moms and two dads. Children normally take this news with about as much interest as the news that the sky is blue. What do conservatives think happens to a kindergartner who is taught that. Truly, I am curious. libfreeordie on August 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Because then he grows up thinking that it’s harmless and normal, and ends up voting Democrat.

Akzed on August 31, 2013 at 11:03 AM

I can see this being necessary on the South Side.

CrustyB on August 31, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Sex education, at any level, is the biggest waste of time and money since NASA (I say that because why do we worry about what’s in space when we can’t even fix what’s on our own planet). If you need someone to tell you how to perform sex properly, or how to put on a condom, I think you have bigger issues than sex education. We don’t have classes about how to put food in your mouth or how to use the bathroom. These are natural functions and I we are all born with an innate knowledge of how to do them.

bandutski on August 31, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Value formation should be left to the parents. The problem is that these kids are being raised by their Grandparents.

RSbrewer on August 31, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Public education is and always has been a deal with the devil and when you make that deal, you don’t get to set the terms.

You’re an idiot. The public most certainly sets the terms of public education.

blink on August 31, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Really? How do you define “The public”. The Democrat Party and its comrades/donors set the terms of public education. Even in red states like Texas.

Buy Danish on August 31, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Sex education huh? What, exactly, are we teaching here? The fundamentals of heterosexual intercourse, the resulting pregnancy?

Right.

The first rule of education is to teach subject matter to students when they are capable of understanding it and practically applying it.

That’s why certain levels of math and science, etc., are not taught until Middle school and High School.

You don’t teach a 5 year old how to change the transmission fluid in a car because 1) they aren’t old enough to drive 2) they are not mentally mature enough to understand what it is, what it does, and what replacing it means because they have no sufficient capability or frame of reference to understand how to do something they can’t really do for another 9-10 years and 3) they aren’t physically mature enough to change it.

The whole rationale for sex ed in high school was that “kids were doing it anyway, so they need to be educated on it“.

So why teach sex education to kids that are 8-12 years away from puberty?

To get them to experiment at earlier and earlier ages, of course. To supplant parental morality and upbringing. To remove traditional understandings of sexuality and morality related thereto. To encourage support of deviant sexual practices. Duh. There’s no other justification for it. It’s the camel’s nose under the tent.

Saltyron on August 31, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Is it for homosexuals.

darwin on August 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Eating humans is also normal. For cannibals.

Saltyron on August 31, 2013 at 11:52 AM

I assume by your statement that only hetero sex, missionary style, and with the intent of conceiving a child, is “normal” and everything else is not normal.

JetBoy on August 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Heterosexual sex leads to one outcome that the others do not, one that is far more important than any of them – the continuation of the human species and your genetic lineage in particular.

Ya know, “breeders”.

Sex is made pleasurable so you want to engage in it. If it is boring, overly complicated or painful, it’s avoided. No sex, no continuation of the species.

To say that the only or primary reason you have a penis or vagina is the pleasure you get from rubbing it is the same as saying the primary reason I have eyes, feet or shoulders is because I get pleasure from having them rubbed. It’s absurd, narrow, Stage One Thinking.

It’s hedonism. Period. And simply because we all share orgasms doesn’t mean the way we get there is morally equivalent. For example, “getting off” with your spouse is not the same as with a dog or a corpse or underage child. So the pleasure principle alone is not justification for equivalency.

The fact that you are normalizing the deviant sexual conduct of sodomy, lesbianism, and any other assorted sexual “-ism” to be indistinguishable, identical, no different than heterosexual sex is proof positive that you are the one with the broken compass.

Saltyron on August 31, 2013 at 12:02 PM

We’d never need to “teach” this stuff if we focused on content. The “self-esteem” movement started the major demise of our American education system. The personality of the child was more important that teaching him/her what he/she needed to make it in the real world. Our ability to compete on a worldwide scale is declining.

Our American schools have become so devoid of real content. If we taught real substance, math, reading, language, geography, real honest history, hard science, etc. we wouldn’t have to waste time on these “feel-good” project. Why? When students are taught content, the LOVE it. When they learn to read, the LOVE it. When they internalize that they have really learned something, then they get self-esteem. Why? They know what’s real – we don’t need all this pabulum, we need standards and content.

MN J on August 31, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Test.

PappyD61 on August 31, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Okay, I tried 3 more times to post the original post and it didn’t work. I’ll try it again here. Must be stuck in the NSA filters in Utah. #hijanet.

PappyD61 on August 31, 2013 at 6:02 PM

nope still didn’t work apparently.

How come a post with no links, and only text that’s about 4 sentences can’t get posted but these small ones can?

PappyD61 on August 31, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Because Chicago needs more unwed mothers and fathers who can’t support their progeny.

flataffect on September 2, 2013 at 6:52 PM

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