Quotes of the day

posted at 8:41 pm on August 30, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Secretary of State John Kerry on Friday delivered a strong call for action in Syria, pushing the need for a response to the use of chemical weapons and stressing that the mistakes of Iraq will not be repeated. …

“History would judge us all extraordinarily harshly if we turned a blind eye to a dictator’s wanton use of weapons of mass destruction against all warnings, against all common understanding of decency,” Kerry said. “These things we do know.” …

Kerry said the intelligence community is “more than mindful of the Iraq experience.”

We will not repeat that moment,” Kerry said.

***

President Obama, with Great Britain having rejected military action in Syria, finds himself on the verge of pursuing the very kind of go-it-alone approach that he accused his predecessor of using in Iraq.

Obama, though, may not even have a “coalition of the willing” at his back, as George W. Bush did, should he choose to pursue the military option in Syria. America’s most vital ally, Great Britain, effectively pulled out before the fireworks began, when the House of Commons voted against military action on Thursday evening.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest on Thursday rejected the notion that the current situation is in any way similar to the run-up to the Iraq war under the George W. Bush administration.

“I think that there are some very important differences. What we saw in that circumstance was an administration that was searching high and low to produce evidence to justify a military invasion, an open-ended military invasion of another country, with the final goal being regime change,” he said.

***

Obama pledged Wednesday that any action against Syria would be small in scale and short in duration. He said he’s “not getting drawn into a long conflict, not a repetition of, you know, Iraq, which I know a lot of people are worried about.”

In 2003, President George W. Bush made it clear from the outset that Saddam Hussein had to leave power, or be forced out. “The day of your liberation is near,” Bush told the Iraqi people two days before the attack began.

At issue in Iraq were alleged stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction, accusations of human rights violations, and purported links to terrorist organizations.

But in Syria, Kerry said Friday, the goal of a U.S. action is “to ensure that a despot’s brutal and flagrant use of chemical weapons is held accountable.”

***

Most of the Arab world opposed Bush’s invasion of Iraq. The entire Arab League except Kuwait condemned the war. And Turkey denied the U.S. use of its military bases. This time around, most of the Arab world, with the exceptions of Iraq and Lebanon, supports strikes against Assad, and Saudi Arabia and Turkey are in talks to potentially participate in the military operation.

Remember Freedom Fries? France and much of Europe weren’t wild about going to war in Iraq. France is now spearheading the effort to oust Assad, although Germany and southern Europe remain skeptical of military involvement. Britain, of course, was as much on board with Iraq in 2003 as it is with Syria in 2013.

This time, there’s next to no doubt they actually exist. The pretense for the war in Iraq was disproven: Hussein’s alleged WMD stockpiles were never found. In this case, the international community has, with the exception of Russia and Iran, accepted and condemned the use of chemical gas in Syria last week that killed as many as 1,300 people.

***

Isn’t a high level of skepticism of optional involvement in Middle Eastern conflicts rather warranted after what happened with Iraq?

There’s a lot of talk about, oh, is this Iraq or is it Rwanda? I tend to agree with the notion that this is closer to Kosovo, with the main difference being that the opposition is not as trained or coherent as the KLA was. The rationale for going in matters. [With Iraq, it was] the notion that it was connected to 9/11 and had WMDs, both of which turned out not to be true. You also had a nation that was in a position of relative stability, not an existing civil war that we decided to engage in where people were being slaughtered. It was a country that was incredibly repressive but relatively stable, and we went in and changed that. Here is a situation where people are dying in huge numbers and being displaced in a region that’s already destabilized, not a situation where a highly objectionable dictator is using his power to ensure stability. So even if Bush had made the humanitarian argument from the beginning, instead of ex post facto after the other rationales fell apart, Iraq was an “if it’s not broke, don’t fix it” situation. Syria is already broken.

***

But for all the fears of repeating Bush’s mistakes, Obama is taking the country to war in Syria from an arguably weaker position than Bush did with Iraq 10 years ago.

On public opinion alone, they are worlds apart (and this is a democracy, after all, so such things should matter). “Do you think that the United States should or should not take military action to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq?” a Wall Street Journal/NBC news poll asked two days before the bombing began in 2003. A clear majority, 65 percent, said yes, while just 30 percent said no.

Compare that to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll out this morning that found that 50 percent of Americans oppose military intervention in Syria, compared with 42 percent who support it. When asked if the U.S. should prioritize removing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from power, just 16 percent of respondents said yes. …

And while Bush’s “coalition of the willing” was a joke, at least he had the United Kingdom. Obama lost London yesterday when Parliament voted to oppose the war effort.

***

First, there’s no clear objective. At least in Iraq, we knew what our initial goal was: overthrowing Saddam Hussein’s regime. This time, our government is disavowing any such concrete purpose. We’re instead going to be “punishing” Bashar al-Assad’s regime or “sending a message” to it. It’s the armed forces as Western Union. How we will know when the regime has been punished enough, or the message made unmistakable, is anyone’s guess.

Second, the national-security rationale for intervention is weaker in Syria. In Iraq, of course, the national-security claims turned out to be vastly overstated; the regime didn’t have the nuclear capacities that Western intelligence agencies suggested. This time, though, not much of a national-security argument is even being made. It has been pointed out that the Syrian regime is an ally of Iran, but that’s hardly a reason for an intervention that is not designed to replace the regime with one friendlier to us. President Barack Obama has tried claiming that Syria’s chemical weapons could be turned against us, but it’s not clear he has even persuaded himself to worry about that.

***


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3 6

Sparky!!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Axe!!!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Bmore!!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:43 PM

B9!!!!!!!!!!!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Jackie!!!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Twerp!!!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Ken!!!!

Evening all

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

EG!!!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

CoffeeLover!!!!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Nice Picture!!!

*Hi Ken*

predator on August 30, 2013 at 8:45 PM

lol Ken….did I give you a big enough hint???

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Bishop!

davidk on August 30, 2013 at 8:48 PM

predator
davidk

evening

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:49 PM

This clown is so, so over his head.

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:49 PM

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:42 PM

…ZIMA!

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 8:49 PM

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:46 PM

;-)

Hi Pred!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Evening, CoffeeLover.

How’s the java? ;)

predator on August 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

sadly, Ken, over his head is an understatement

Kookaid2…Zima? What am I missing?

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

predator on August 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

pretty dang good. thanks for asking ;)

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Scrumpy !!!

¿ Donde esta ?

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 8:52 PM

If Assad has his wits about him he will grab us by the nose in any way he can, force us to engage far beyond our current plans and wishes, not let us break and back away and in so doing bring down the Obama administration.

That may be why Mr. Obama looked shaken and unsure when he made his representations this afternoon. He has to plan either to be in or be out. The mid-ground is playing with disaster.

Congress needs to weigh in before an ego driven campaign hurts the country as well as Mr. Obama’s best interests if he could only see them.

Mason on August 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Lemme through! I got here late!

Lanceman on August 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

…ZIMA!

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Ripple !

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

lol Lanceman

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Has Putin thanked Barky for the “flexibility” yet?

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Lemme through! I got here late!

Lanceman on August 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

YOU! Back in line!

predator on August 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:49 PM

http://tinyurl.com/3fqekg4

davidk on August 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

O looked and sounded like a wuss today

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

davidk on August 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Now that is delightful….thx so much for that!!! Made me smile.

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:57 PM

If Assad has his wits about him he will grab us by the nose in any way he can, force us to engage far beyond our current plans and wishes, not let us break and back away and in so doing bring down the Obama administration.

That may be why Mr. Obama looked shaken and unsure when he made his representations this afternoon. He has to plan either to be in or be out. The mid-ground is playing with disaster.

Congress needs to weigh in before an ego driven campaign hurts the country as well as Mr. Obama’s best interests if he could only see them.

Mason on August 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

That fence he’s straddling is made of barbed wire.

davidk on August 30, 2013 at 8:57 PM

I found this on my travels:

“NEWS FLASH: Bozo finally found his coalition.
He looked in the mirror. ROFLMAO!!!!!”

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM

O looked and sounded like a wuss today

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Just today? ;-)

ShainS on August 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

EG!!!

KCB on August 30, 2013 at 8:44 PM

I forgot it was Friday..

Dang…:)

Electrongod on August 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Zima? What am I missing?

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:51 PM

…they were talking *clinking* about it last night…and wondered if it was still made…I went to a local liquor store last night and the guy found a six pack for me with dust on it in his basement…they quit making it 4 or 5 years ago!…I drank it all and married the porcelain goddess today…when you put it in the freezer until it almost crystalizes…it was rather refreshing on an 80 degree night!

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

O looked and sounded like a wuss today again. FIFY

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM

You’re welcome. :D

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

New Steyn…

An Accidental War

Resist We Much on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

“History would judge us all extraordinarily harshly if we turned a blind eye to a dictator’s wanton use of weapons of mass destruction against all warnings, against all common understanding of decency,” Kerry said. “These things we do know.”

We do? Because it sounds like you pulled that statement from your ass.

Axe on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

ShainS on August 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

More so today…I am worrying about WW3 and this guy gave us a taped delay 4 minute statement.

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Oh my………sorry it made you sick!

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Oh, tell me you didn’t really drink frozen Zima last night! LOL!

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

What happened to carbon feetsteps? His new name I mean?

Lanceman on August 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

lol predator!!!! Well done.

I think that was what ShainS was making me see.

_____________________

EG…so good to see ya. Evening

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Evening All:

I raise my tea-cup,for a “Clinky” Salutey to the
Official Riddance,

of DemoSexacrat Filthy/Filner!!!!!!!!!!!
=========================================

San Diego mayor sexual harassment allegations 2013

San Diego Mayor Bob Filner formally resigns; Todd Gloria introduced as acting mayor – @UTsandiego

53 mins ago from http://www.utsandiego.com by editor
=================================================

The momentous day in city history lacked the high drama of last week’s City Council hearing in which Filner agreed to resign. There was no fiery speech from the departing mayor, who was nowhere to be seen Friday. There was no formal ceremony to anoint Council President Todd Gloria as interim mayor.

The clock struck 5 and Filner was done.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/aug/30/filner-resigns-sexual-harassment-gloria-takes-over/

canopfor on August 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

That fence he’s straddling is made of barbed wire.

davidk on August 30, 2013 at 8:57 PM

…he’s used to it!…that’s why he ‘always’ sits with his legs tightly crossed!

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 9:04 PM

lol Hi jackie :) I don’t even remember it!

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

RWM…evening

Love Mark Steyn

I saw the NEED MORE MONEY headline on Drudge!!! Will Congress have the chutzpah to say NO??

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

I think I had a Zima once. The beverage was transparent and the taste was the same….

It’s an old rule of mine never to purchase a drink endorsed by a comedian (Zima by Richard Lewis— IIRC) even if it’s Lite by Rodney Dangerfield.

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:06 PM

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Good evening, CoffeeLover. :)

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:06 PM

canopfor on August 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

and who is paying for his legal bills??? Do we know yet?

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Oh, tell me you didn’t really drink frozen Zima last night! LOL!

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:02 PM

…it was ‘almost’ frozen …and my bowels…are crystalized… today!

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM

“History would judge us all extraordinarily harshly if we turned a blind eye to a dictator’s wanton use of weapons of mass destruction against all warnings, against all common understanding of decency,” Kerry said. “These things we do know.”

We do? Because it sounds like you pulled that statement from your ass.

Axe on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

…was he on his yacht?

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM

I forgot it was Friday..

Dang…:)

Electrongod on August 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM

EG:Good to see ya EG:)

canopfor on August 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Ripple !

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Pagan Pink?

chewmeister on August 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

PENTAGON CAN’T AFFORD WAR; MUST SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDS

Resist We Much on August 30, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Maybe they could just sell some bonds to themselves. Sort of a Fed/Treasury kind of deal.

That’ll fix it. :)

No charge.

Axe on August 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

“History would judge us all extraordinarily harshly if we turned a blind eye to a dictator’s wanton use of weapons of mass destruction against all warnings, against all common understanding of decency,” Kerry said. “These things we do know.”

We do? Because it sounds like you pulled that statement from your ass.

Axe on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

But History says Bush was a KILLER!. He attacked poor Iraq for no reason right Kerry? Makes me sick to my stomach the double standard here…

sandee on August 30, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Barky can always beg the ChiComs to fund his war in Syria.

.

Oh wait. That credit card is maxed out…..

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM

I think you’re better off drinking Sterno.

chewmeister on August 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

chewmeister on August 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Strawberry Hill ?

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:13 PM

What the hell was this nonsense today? John frigging kerry?

wolly4321 on August 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

KOOLAID2 on August 30, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I’m sorry to hear you feel unwell. There was a drink we concocted for parties in my youth that was slushy mostly-frozen sweet red wine with a bump of rum floated on top. It was called ‘Paga’, as I recall.It would have you dancing around a bon fire in the moonlight in nothing flat. However, I don’t recall any intestinal side effects from it. I’m wondering if the age of the Zima may have had some adverse effect or if it was just because it was Zima.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Ah, the good old days.

chewmeister on August 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

As I tell my sommelier… If it doesn’t say “Boone’s Farm” it’s hardly worth drinking.

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

sandee on August 30, 2013 at 9:11 PM

the hypocrisy is beyond unreal at this point…and to think of more to come.

Reminder to me** pick up some alka seltzer tomorrow!

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:14 PM

I LOVE THIS!

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Strawberry Hill ?

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Hey now! I used to date her!

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:16 PM

PENTAGON CAN’T AFFORD WAR; MUST SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDS

Resist We Much on August 30, 2013 at 9:04 PM

So now the Foreign Policy disaster meets up with the Fiscal Policy disaster and the Debt Ceiling disaster, all done so Obama can repeat the Fast & Furious disaster writ large with US airmen shot down with MANPADS supplied to Libyan ‘rebels’ who shipped them to AQ in Syria!

The Stupid is on the move!

ajacksonian on August 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Zima,,, wasn’t that sprite soda at .004% alcohol?

wolly4321 on August 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

canopfor on August 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

and who is paying for his legal bills??? Do we know yet?

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:06 PM

CoffeeLover:

Good question,its probably buried somewhere in the
HopeyCare bill,waaaaaay in da back,as an insurance
policy,where Pelosi knew this day would come!!:)
(sarc)

canopfor on August 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Axe on August 30, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Surely Obama’s fundraisers in Hollywood and NYC and the Silicon Valley…you know, Katzenberg, Steinberg, Gates, Schwarz, Zuckerberg,et al, will just throw a party, pony up, and pay for this war…

…after all…

This is Obama’s War.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Strawberry Hill ?

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Hey now! I used to date her!

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Was she a thrill?…. nah, that’s her notorious sister Blueberry Hill…..

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:16 PM

LOL! Good evening, Predator. :)

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:19 PM

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

At Cherry Hill Park?

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Cherry Hill Park – Billy Joe Royal

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:21 PM

canopfor on August 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

No doubt…in the fine print the taxpayer gets hosed again.

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Was she a thrill?…. nah, that’s her notorious sister Blueberry Hill…..

viking01 on August 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

So was Mary Hill.

chewmeister on August 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM

LOL! Good evening, Predator. :)

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:19 PM

‘Ello, luv. Wonderful to see ya this fine eve. ;)

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM

I drank boones farm at a red house over yonder.

wolly4321 on August 30, 2013 at 9:23 PM

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Always a pleasure to see you, too. :)

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Evenin’. I loathe my job.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 30, 2013 at 9:24 PM

So the POS Prez who voted “Present” most of the time as a state senator votes “Present” again.

(yawn)

KirknBurker on August 30, 2013 at 9:24 PM

So was Mary Hill.

chewmeister on August 30, 2013 at 9:22 PM

They were all pretty hot, except for the heavy one, Climba Hill.

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Down In The Boondocks – Billy Joe Royal

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Well if Drudge is right and we don’t have the money to conduct anything in Syria – God Bless the Sequester.

gophergirl on August 30, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I drank boones farm at a red house over yonder.

wolly4321 on August 30, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Was it the house where yo’ baby stayed?

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Zima,,, wasn’t that sprite soda at .004% alcohol?

wolly4321 on August 30, 2013 at 9:17 PM

My little brother called it a “beer cooler”…

PointnClick on August 30, 2013 at 9:27 PM

http://therightscoop.com/sarah-palin-obliterates-obama-on-syria-president-obamas-advertised-war-plan-isnt-about-protecting-civilians/

This is Sarah Palin at her best, taking Obama’s plan to bomb Syria apart piece by piece and obliterating it:

“So we’re bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And I’m the idiot?” – Sarah Palin

* President Obama wants America involved in Syria’s civil war pitting the antagonistic Assad regime against equally antagonistic Al Qaeda affiliated rebels. But he’s not quite sure which side is doing what, what the ultimate end game is, or even whose side we should be on. Haven’t we learned? WAGs don’t work in war.

* We didn’t intervene when over 100,000 Syrians were tragically slaughtered by various means, but we’ll now intervene to avenge the tragic deaths of over 1,000 Syrians killed by chemical weapons, though according to the White House we’re not actually planning to take out the chemical weapons because doing so would require “too much of a commitment.”

* President Obama wants to do what, exactly? Punish evil acts in the form of a telegraphed air strike on Syria to serve as a deterrent? If our invasion of Iraq wasn’t enough of a deterrent to stop evil men from using chemical weapons on their own people, why do we think this will be?

* The world sympathizes with the plight of civilians tragically caught in the crossfire of this internal conflict. But President Obama’s advertised war plan (which has given Assad enough of a heads-up that he’s reportedly already placing human shields at targeted sites) isn’t about protecting civilians, and it’s not been explained how lobbing U.S. missiles at Syria will help Syrian civilians. Do we really think our actions help either side or stop them from hurting more civilians?

* We have no clear mission in Syria. There’s no explanation of what vital American interests are at stake there today amidst yet another centuries-old internal struggle between violent radical Islamists and a murderous dictatorial regime, and we have no business getting involved anywhere without one. And where’s the legal consent of the people’s representatives? Our allies in Britain have already spoken. They just said no. The American people overwhelmingly agree, and the wisdom of the people must be heeded.

* Our Nobel Peace Prize winning President needs to seek Congressional approval before taking us to war. It’s nonsense to argue that, “Well, Bush did it.” Bull. President Bush received support from both Congress and a coalition of our allies for “his wars,” ironically the same wars Obama says he vehemently opposed because of lack of proof of America’s vital interests being at stake.

* Bottom line is that this is about President Obama saving political face because of his “red line” promise regarding chemical weapons.

* As I said before, if we are dangerously uncertain of the outcome and are led into war by a Commander-in-chief who can’t recognize that this conflict is pitting Islamic extremists against an authoritarian regime with both sides shouting “Allah Akbar” at each other, then let Allah sort it out.

- Sarah Palin

Also on Free Republic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3060864/posts?page=25

American Dream 246 on August 30, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Save The Last Dance For Me – Billy Joe Royal

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Hi GG…as I recall the numbers…O took out almost $500B in his first term. The sequester has only taken $55B. In effect O did this to himself…if that is karma-karma is a biotch.

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Kisses Sweeter Than Wine.

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:29 PM

They were all pretty hot, except for the heavy one, Climba Hill.

predator on August 30, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Dang near lost a four hundred dollar hand cart key board.

chewmeister on August 30, 2013 at 9:29 PM

This sob fires missles… we need to get off our asses. He’s got to go.

I’ve never lived under a dictator and I’m not going to now.

Damned right they want the WH visitor logs sealed. Because the MB practically lives there.

wolly4321 on August 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Blueberry Hill – Fats Domino

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Hi GG…as I recall the numbers…O took out almost $500B in his first term. The sequester has only taken $55B. In effect O did this to himself…if that is karma-karma is a biotch.

CoffeeLover on August 30, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Heh that’s even better.

gophergirl on August 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM

This is Obama’s War.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Don’t be ridiculous. This is Bush’s war. They’re all Bush’s wars. :)

Evenin’. I loathe my job.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 30, 2013 at 9:24 PM

I loathe my personal life. Here’s what we’ll do: I’ll work for you, you’ll live for me. After I’ve got you promoted and shifted into better grass, and after you’ve got me fixed up — we’ll swap back. :)

Also, THWACK

Axe on August 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Climba Hill – :)

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Secretary of State John Kerry on Friday delivered a strong call for action in Syria, pushing the need for a response to the use of chemical weapons and stressing that the mistakes of Iraq will not be repeated. …
============

I just love how the DNC are spinning the Bush/Iraq Curse!

Bush bent over backwards to accomadate Blair,on getting UN
Approval,and Blair’s Political future that could be at stake
was also taken in to account,during the run up to the 2003 Iraq
War,by the Bush Admin.!

What this whole Syrian Adventure has shown,or come out,is that over
the last five years,THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION CANNOT BE TRUSTED!

And thats on a Global Scale,and as a result,PM Cameron,got tossed
under the bus,by Obama,end of story!

PM Cameron was humiliated,far worse than Chamberlain,according to UK/England news sources!!
========================

The Iraq War [Full BBC Documentary]
***********************************

Published on Jun 15, 2013

All rights to BBC. The biggest players of the war in Iraq reveal the inside story.

Part 1 ~ “Regime Change”
Part 2 ~ “After The Fall”
Part 3 ~ “It’s Hell, Mr. President”
************************************

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27UiGXAJx-Y

canopfor on August 30, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Axe on August 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

My co-worker threw a temper tantrum in front of a customer after I asked him to re-do something for said customer.*manager wanted redo.*

annoyinglittletwerp on August 30, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Axe on August 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

How can you say that? You’re handsome, you have a slim, shapely, athletic American derriere, you have a gorgeous lawyer virtual girlfriend, you’re a witty and talented poet/writer… the list is just too long.

thatsafactjack on August 30, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Comment pages: 1 2 3 6