Workers set to strike fast food restaurants for higher wages

posted at 4:51 pm on August 29, 2013 by Bruce McQuain

This will be the 2nd attempt by fast food workers to increase their pay:

Organizers say thousands of fast-food workers are set to stage walkouts in dozens of cities around the country Thursday, part of a push to get chains such as McDonald’s, Taco Bell and Wendy’s to pay workers higher wages.

It’s expected be the largest nationwide strike by fast-food workers, according to organizers. The biggest effort so far was over the summer when about 2,200 of the nation’s millions of fast-food workers staged a one-day strike in seven cities.

Thursday’s planned walkouts follow a series of strikes that began last November in New York City, then spread to cities including Chicago, Detroit and Seattle. Workers say they want $15 an hour, which would be about $31,000 a year for full-time employees. That’s more than double the federal minimum wage, which many fast food workers make, of $7.25 an hour, or $15,000 a year.

Why not $20 an hour? Or $100?  Real compensation is and always has been tied to the value of the work that is done.  Except when government or unions get involved.  If you ever wonder where our manufacturing jobs went, you might want to query those two entities.  In essence they’ve priced many an industry out of business with wage demands that exceed the value of the work.

The drive for higher wages isn’t something new.  But the realization that some work is only worth a certain amount of money to employers seems to be eternally so.  There is always a portion of the population that never seems to understand that.  And right now, because of the economy, it’s a buyer’s market in terms of labor.  So to say this is an ill-timed endeavor is to utter an understatement.

Additionally, a nation-wide movement among fast food workers isn’t likely to have the effect they think it might have.  Most fast food restaurants are franchises:

McDonald’s Corp. and Burger King Worldwide Inc. say that they don’t make decisions about pay for the independent franchisees that operate the majority of their U.S. restaurants.

And for those restaurants they do own?

For the restaurants it does own, McDonald’s said in a statement that pay starts at minimum wage but the range goes higher, depending on the employee’s position and experience level. It said that raising entry-level wages would mean higher overall costs, which could result in higher prices on menus.

“That would potentially have a negative impact on employment and business growth in our restaurants, as well as value for our customers,” the company said in a statement.

It’s fast food, folks.  It’s a business model that has as one of its principal pillars the provision of less expensive food delivered quickly.  Note the words … “less expensive food”.  Any idea what effect doubled wages would have on cost?

And what do you see when you walk into most of them?  Young people:

The National Restaurant Association says the low wages reflect the fact that most fast-food workers tend to be younger and have little work experience. Scott DeFife, a spokesman for the group, says that doubling wages would hurt job creation, noting that fast-food chains are already facing higher costs for ingredients, as well as new regulations that will require them to pay more in health care costs.

Where is that increase in cost likely to lead?  In some cases to automation.  Replacement of workers by machines.  And that means fewer jobs.

Fast food joints are entities that provide entry level jobs.  They’re experience builders. As McDonalds says, you start at a certain wage and as you perform, your wages increase. Most fast food workers use their jobs as stepping stones to higher paying, higher skilled jobs.   With this movement we have a group saying “no, we want higher wages now, whether or not we’re worth it,  or have earned it, or it wrecks your business”.  And it surely would.

Of course there are the those who support movements like this but again, their support is mostly based in emotion and not reality.  It’s the old Wal-Mart argument in a sense.  People will argue that Wal-Mart is bad because it drives mom and pop businesses out of business.  But when asked if they’re willing to pay the higher prices those local business must charge for the same goods in order to turn a profit and stay in business, the answer is inevitably “no”.

While many will claim to back the drive for fast food workers to double their wages, they’ll likely to be the first to complain when they’re faced with paying for a $9 Quarter Pounder.

~McQ


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OK McQ. Did you eat AP?

22044 on August 29, 2013 at 4:53 PM

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 1.8 million paid-hourly employees were paid the federal minimum wage of $7.25 in 2010.5 These 1.8 million employees can be broken down into two broad groups:

Roughly half (49.0 percent) are teenagers or young adults aged 24 or under. A large majority (62.2 percent) of this group live in families with incomes two or more times the official poverty level.6 Looking just at the families of teenaged minimum wage workers, the average income is almost $70,600, and only 16.8 percent are below the poverty line.7 Note that the federal minimum wage applies to workers of all ages.8
The other half (51.0 percent) are aged 25 and up.9 More of these workers live in poor families (29.2 percent) or near the poverty level (46.2 percent had family incomes less than 1.5 times the poverty level).10However, even within this half of all minimum wage employees, 24.8 percent voluntarily work part-time, and just 34.3 percent are full-time full-year employees.11
Only 20.8 percent of all minimum wage workers are family heads or spouses working full time, 30.8 percent were children, and 32.2 percent are young Americans enrolled in school.12 The popular belief that minimum wage workers are poor adults (25 years old or older), working full time and trying to raise a family is largely untrue. Just 4.7 percent match that description.13 Indeed, many minimum wage workers live in families with incomes well above the poverty level.

repvoter on August 29, 2013 at 4:54 PM

BURP!!!

ToddPA on August 29, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Hello robotics goodby workers.

meci on August 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM

How many Mickey D’s were shut down over this strike?

OmahaConservative on August 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM

As I said on the headline, $15 an hour to be able to say, “You want fries wit dat?” …Seriously?

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM

While many will claim to back the drive for fast food workers to double their wages, they’ll likely to be the first to complain when they’re faced with paying for a $9 Quarter Pounder.

Sure they will. Because they’re too damn stupid to equate higher costs for business with higher prices.

BacaDog on August 29, 2013 at 4:59 PM

It’s not PC to say, but some people aren’t worth $15/hour. That’s reality.

Meric1837 on August 29, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Wasn’t I just on this thread earlier? Yogi comes to mind.

Bmore on August 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM

hahahahaha. Are these fast food fools too stupid to understand that their fearless leader has so destroyed the economy that, for them to get ANY kind of raise, their franchise will have to charge more for the product, and then less people can afford to buy it, and then they’ll have to be let go?

I guess the dog eater could increase welfare and food stamps to help cover the extra costs…but could he really sneak that past his food nazi wife? tsk, tsk, it all looks no win to me-

BettyRuth on August 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Oh, so it was a headline thread? Man I really had to do a double take. Lolz!

Bmore on August 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM

What a great way for workers to incentivize fast food chains into using Alpha the hamburger making robot which churns out a painless 360 hamburgers per hour, and never complains that it’s not getting enough pay, benefits, vacation time, and always shows up on time and ready for work.

PoliTech on August 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM

But the realization that some work is only worth a certain amount of money to employers seems to be eternally so.

But for years a lot of leftist have pushed the equal worth pay principle. Is an assembly worker, secretary or even a doctor really worth more than a burger flipper? They all work equally as hard and do the job they were trained for so why is a secretary that may not be able to do the burger flipping job as well be paid more. The utopia will be realized when everyone gets equal pay for doing work no matter what that work is. Heck, the true utopia will be when people are paid for just existing. Isn’t that what Japan just decided to do. Give every citizen 600 buck week just for existing?

Dr. Frank Enstine on August 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Double-double, animal style please.

Ward Cleaver on August 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM

My goodness, where are Mickey Ds and Burger King ever going to find people to replace the striking burger flippers and cash register punchers? Those are unique skill sets that you aren’t going to just find walking in off the street.

/

On a serious note, when I’ve gone into fast food restaurants recently (which, judging by my waistline is far too often), I’ve seen more and more of those automated kiosks, where you order your meal by touching the screen and swipe your credit or debit card to pay. The only time you have to interact with a human being is when you actually pick up the food. Stunts like this idiotic strike are only going to speed the process of automating the industry and taking low-skilled workers out of the loop completely. If they can design a robot that can build a BMW sedan largely autonomously, what’s to stop someone from designing a robot that can cook and assemble a Big Mac without human intervention?

Hayabusa on August 29, 2013 at 5:02 PM

OT–It is 98 degrees on my front porch in the shade with a heat index of 110…

OmahaConservative on August 29, 2013 at 5:02 PM

These idiots should be grateful to even have a job.

GrannyDee on August 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Historically the minimum wage was created as a racist attempt to keep black workers from undercutting the wages of white unionized labor. It has been and continues to be enormously effective to that end.

I would like to see the DOJ attack federal and state minimum wage laws based on “disparate impact” theory. But it’ll never happen.

Rich H on August 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Fast food jobs are supposed to be entry level jobs for young people, not careers or family supporting jobs for older workers. The few who move into management being the exception.

This is just stupid but alas typical for unions, Liberals, and the rest of the economic illiterates on the Left.

Charlemagne on August 29, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Real compensation is and always has been tied to the value of the work that is done.

RACIST!

BTW, where is our moronic cut-and-paste minimum wage troll?

nobar on August 29, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Some chains are looking at using call centers to take drive through orders, which then send the data to the screens to the cooks’ display screens. Also, ever wonder why a lot of restaurants have switched to self-service fountains? Because it’s cheaper than paying employees to make drinks for customers inside the store.

Ward Cleaver on August 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM

And when these “workers” find their jobs taken by folks who are willing to work, at the current minimum wage?

If these were air traffic controllers or something, they’d be secure knowing that they’d never be fired…ooops…nevermind.

Unless one is singularly endowed with a talent and ability that can be replaced by no one on Earth…no job is permanently secure. None. Not in this economy.

And when these “workers” end up costing the public, the consumers, a ton of money to purchase a burger that once cost, in my lifetime, a mere 17 cents…not going to be greeted as conquering heroes by anyone.

Unskilled labor is entry level.

Unskilled.

If monkeys were a tad more sanitary, they’d be doing the job.

Entry level unskilled labor.

And when these fast food franchises shutter their doors…because paying “workers” $15 an hour, should government step in an require it, is not economically wise…what then?

No job. None.

But, there is already a solution in place…McDonald’s to Replace Cashiers with Touch Screen Computers.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM

RE: Walmart..

and what do these mom and pop stores pay their workers. If you say minimum wage then you win $7.50 per hour.

Target and Walmart pay the same wages. Why does Walmart earn all the hate? Because the urban sophisticate shops are Target while all those bitter clingers shop at Walmart.

jerryofva on August 29, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Rich H on August 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

“Hamburger Slinging” is a “starter job” You don’t make a career out of it.

Are you another sock puppet of libfree’s?

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:07 PM

More jobs Americans are unwilling to do. Amnesty now!!
/s

cyclown on August 29, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Quick, get Allison Benedickt on the case.

Because there’s just not enough stupid yet.

dissent555 on August 29, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Historically the minimum wage was created as a racist attempt to keep black workers from undercutting the wages of white unionized labor. It has been and continues to be enormously effective to that end.

I would like to see the DOJ attack federal and state minimum wage laws based on “disparate impact” theory. But it’ll never happen.

Rich H on August 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Of course. It’s racism. It had to be.

Hey jackass, I’m thinking the President of the United States makes a bit more than $7.25 per hour. And it’s really undercutting my wages.

M240H on August 29, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Union wages are tied to the minimum wage so therefore unions will always demand a higher minimum wage. They are greedy.

Grunt on August 29, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Hayabusa on August 29, 2013 at 5:02 PM

I work in international logistics for Wal-Mart and can tell you for a fact that higher wages drives increased automation.

Europe has some fantastically automated distribution centers and lead the world in the development of robotic material handling equipment. In contrast, our Latin American markets have very little automation and instead rely on lots of cheap manual labor.

Maybe Obama will give another speech decrying ATMs.

Charlemagne on August 29, 2013 at 5:09 PM

“You want fries wit dat?”
kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Funniest line my sis told her students, don’t do the homework get prepared to say that over and over day after day.

MontanaMmmm on August 29, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Not sure you understood my point. I believe that the minimum wage is an example of white liberal racism against blacks.

Rich H on August 29, 2013 at 5:09 PM

As the great intellectual Larry the Cable Guy says, “If you don’t like the wages, don’t friggin’ work there”.

cat-scratch on August 29, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Rich H on August 29, 2013 at 5:09 PM

So, you are for raising their wages to $15 an hour, and therfore raising the cost of doing business, which in turned would be passed along to you?

That’s not Conservative thinking. Heck, that’s not even Moderate thinking.

I call b.s.

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Where is that increase in cost likely to lead? In some cases to automation. Replacement of workers by machines. And that means fewer jobs.

So we’re yet another step closer to Idiocrisy once the Carls Jr. machines start kicking out our burgers.

stldave on August 29, 2013 at 5:12 PM

In related news, cholesterol numbers for the average American went down today …

M240H on August 29, 2013 at 5:13 PM

In and Out Burger pays its employees a great wage and pays its managers extremely well. They are, by far, the best fast food joint in the business.

Their employees are intelligent, dress well, smile, and concerned with customer satisfaction and deliver a good product.

rickyricardo on August 29, 2013 at 5:15 PM

stldave on August 29, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Dammit, stldave, you beat me to the Idiocracy reference… :-)

Seems a lot of these “workers” view Idiocracy as a career motivational film, not the comedic slam against mass stupidity it was intended to be.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Since they can’t even make change without the register (you know, that machine with the pictograms on it) telling them the amount to return, couldn’t we just tell them they are making fifteen dollars per hour?

M240H on August 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM

I call b.s.

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:12 PM

http://amarillo.com/opinion/opinion-columnist/weekly-opinion-columnist/2013-03-05/williams-minimum-wage-has-racist

Rich H on August 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM

I sure hope a huge list of people that are participating in this is being produced. If they’ll do this at an entry level job, they’ll have that attitude to carry around wherever they go.

And no way do I want to buy food that has that Jesse Jackson taint of anger as one of the condiments either.

DanMan on August 29, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Their employees are intelligent, dress well, smile, and concerned with customer satisfaction and deliver a good product.

rickyricardo on August 29, 2013 at 5:15 PM

After a recent(ish) visit to my home state, I can confirm that this is indeed the case.

nobar on August 29, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Rich H on August 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM

The key word in your link is “opinion”.

The secondary key word is RAAACIIIST!

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:18 PM

$15 an hour just to get your order wrong……sheesh!!

dddave on August 29, 2013 at 5:18 PM

The ghost of liberal utopia future says to check out your local university residence hall dining facilities for a glimpse of highly paid union staff and their culinary careers in action.

I worked as many hours with no benefits, doing twice the work for half the pay of those worthless union slugs while going to school. Is there a single university dining facility in this country that has a value menu? I doubt it.

Flipping burgers should not be a career, though next they will be demanding pensions for these people. If they want more money, go work at Costco. Oh, that’s right, those workers weren’t the most qualified applicants in that job pool. If they do raise the wages, they will all be replace by more qualified applicants willing to flip burgers when the wage is doubled.

rw on August 29, 2013 at 5:18 PM

If these were air traffic controllers or something, they’d be secure knowing that they’d never be fired…ooops…nevermind.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Hahahahaha!

Actually, it pains me that I am old enough to get that joke. Get off my lawn!

Hayabusa on August 29, 2013 at 5:19 PM

If I were a franchise owner, I would fire every b@st@rd that went on strike.

If you don’t like earning minimum wage, don’t apply for minimum wage jobs. How difficult is that?

Fazman on August 29, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Workers say they want $15 an hour, which would be about $31,000 a year for full-time employees. That’s more than double the federal minimum wage, which many fast food workers make, of $7.25 an hour, or $15,000 a year

Are we really valuing the “career” of working at a fast food outlet at $31K/year plus employer costs? The average teacher working for less than a year earns $34,342 each year. Those who have been teaching for more than one year, but less than five, bring in $37,200. When it takes a BA to put frozen potato products in oil, we can talk.

Until then, this is nothing more than the unions trying to mobilize in the wake of flagging membership.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2013 at 5:21 PM

In other news, idiots remain idiots. And will wonder where their $15 job went, as they apply for all the entitlements they can leech.

I heard this news story on the radio this morning, with a soundbite from an employee who was in favor of this, lamenting that he couldn’t earn a living at current minimum wage, and my thought was… well, if you’re worth it, get a better f*cking job – if you’re not, well… damn, bummer, dude. And yes, I’d like fries with that.

Midas on August 29, 2013 at 5:21 PM

I heard on the radio this morning that the SEIU was behind this.

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM

If I were a franchise owner, I would fire every b@st@rd that went on strike.

Fazman on August 29, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Yep, in a heartbeat.

Midas on August 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM

The key word in your link is “opinion”.

The secondary key word is RAAACIIIST!

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:18 PM

If you don’t agree with it, I’d like to know why. Walter Williams is one of my favorite columnists, and can hardly be identified as a liberal.

Rich H on August 29, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Actually, it pains me that I am old enough to get that joke. Get off my lawn!

Hayabusa on August 29, 2013 at 5:19 PM

PATCO is ancient history now? I don’t feel nearly that old.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2013 at 5:23 PM

$15 an hour to be able to say, “You want fries wit dat?” …Seriously?

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Considering the frequency with which they screw up a simple order, I’ll go you one better and say that most fast-food employees aren’t worth $7.25/hour.

cool breeze on August 29, 2013 at 5:23 PM

After successfully bankrupting detroit, many california cities, twinkies and hundreds and hundreds of others, the d-cRAT unions now want to do the same to the fast-food industry. All Americans should hope these extremists fail – but especially those low-income people who need low-cost places to eat and will only suffer more when they are destroyed by union greed.

TeaPartyNation on August 29, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Since they can’t even make change without the register (you know, that machine with the pictograms on it) telling them the amount to return, couldn’t we just tell them they are making fifteen dollars per hour?

M240H on August 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM

L.M.A.O.

Damn, man, nice one – almost spewed beverage on my monitor.

Midas on August 29, 2013 at 5:25 PM

You forget, in addition to the doubling of their wage, they want to unionize.

FIRE ‘EM!

How many people are on the long-term unemployed line right now? You know, the U6 number. The number the Democrats DO NOT want to talk about.

GarandFan on August 29, 2013 at 5:26 PM

$15 an hour just to get your order wrong……sheesh!!

dddave on August 29, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Oh! I’m sure you are wrong. Pay more and you’ll get better service at fast food outlets.

When they got rid of contract security at airports and put in TSA Security agents everything got better! Costs a boatload more but it is worth the price, right? /

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2013 at 5:28 PM

These same people support amnesty for people who will work for five dollars an hour. They also voted for Obama.

alanstern on August 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM

TeaPartyNation on August 29, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Cannot find the ref, but not long ago there was a study published that essentially said that having a Wal-Mart Superstore in your area could free up thousands of dollars a year for each American family…and the lowest income group benefited the most. If one is forced to pay $60 a pair for kids shoes, the kids learn to go barefoot…but at $12 a pair at Wal-mart…buy several pairs…and still have money left over for the more important things.

And, no, Meth is not one of them.

:-)

coldwarrior on August 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM

I heard on the radio this morning that the SEIU was behind this.

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Why am I not surprised?

Screw ‘em all, but save six for pallbearers.

GrannyDee on August 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM

I was in college when I met a couple that had both been PATCO union employees. Man they hated Reagan but they had a new perspective on having a job. It was around 1982 or so I think and they were working hard to get degrees in engineering.

DanMan on August 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM

So who are the companies that lead the market in making the automated fast food order placement kiosk/screens?

I sense an investment needs to be made.

Midas on August 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Why not $20 an hour? Or $100? Real compensation is and always has been tied to the value of the work that is done.

P. The market pays the correct wage.

P. The market pays these employees $7.25 per hour.

C. $7.25 per hour is the correct wage.

righty45 on August 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I heard on the radio this morning that the SEIU was behind this.

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Oh, there’s a central organizing force behind it, for sure.

Midas on August 29, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Si

nce they can’t even make change without the register (you know, that machine with the pictograms on it) telling them the amount to return, couldn’t we just tell them they are making fifteen dollars per hour?

M240H on August 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM

ROTFLMAO! Yes that is a strategy that could work.

For whatever reason, I got back close to twice the change I should have gotten at a certain square burger place. The individual who is supposed to be making $15/hour was truly befuddled that I questioned the register.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2013 at 5:34 PM

righty45 on August 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I was shooting for JustTheFacts, but you’ll do.

You are aware that, by law (and consequently, not markets), the minimum wage is federally mandated? So that begs the question, how do you arrive at

C. $7.25 per hour is the correct wage.

or do you actually believe that free markets = the govt says so?

nobar on August 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

DanMan on August 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Was a lot more at stake than the jobs of PATCO employees at the time.

Had Reagan folded, gave in…air traffic control today would still be in the 1950′s mode…but, the push to unionize all government skilled GS positions would have erupted all over the place…was even talk at the time of unionizing the armed forces, since several NATO Partners had already done so.

Reagan was a big picture sort of President.

Thank God for that.

The current president?

Too focused on selfies.

coldwarrior on August 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM

While many will claim to back the drive for fast food workers to double their wages, they’ll likely to be the first to complain when they’re faced with paying for a $9 Quarter Pounder.

$10.50 with a slice of cheese.

IndieDogg on August 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Fast Food SeQuester Eh!!!

canopfor on August 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM

In and Out Burger pays its employees a great wage and pays its managers extremely well. They are, by far, the best fast food joint in the business.

Their employees are intelligent, dress well, smile, and concerned with customer satisfaction and deliver a good product.

rickyricardo on August 29, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Yeah. It’s perfect except for the fact that their burgers keep getting smaller and smaller.

trigon on August 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM

We went into mcd’s a couple of weeks ago when we couldn’t pull our small fishing boat thru the drive thru.

I counted 8 “employee’s” standing around joking with each other and talking to their friends across the counter while we waited about 15 minutes for our order. I say they could fire about 7 of them and no one would notice.

MontanaMmmm on August 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Yeah. It’s perfect except for the fact that their burgers keep getting smaller and smaller.

trigon on August 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Wages went up?

coldwarrior on August 29, 2013 at 5:39 PM

PATCO is ancient history now? I don’t feel nearly that old.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2013 at 5:23 PM

That was 32 years ago. I consider that a long time. Brezhnev was still in charge of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was still a thing. MTV played music videos. A phone was something plugged into the wall in your kitchen, instead of something you carry around in your pocket and use to take pictures and surf the internet.

Hayabusa on August 29, 2013 at 5:39 PM

I heard on the radio this morning that the SEIU was behind this.

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM

KJ,

No offense, but where have you been? This whole “movement” is their creation.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2013 at 5:40 PM

I really have no idea how this will turn out, but I would place a sizable wager that says there are more people willing to work for $7.25 an hour, than those who are willing to go on strike because of it.

DDay on August 29, 2013 at 5:40 PM

I heard on the radio this morning that the SEIU was behind this.

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM

They are behind it in Houston today.They are salivating about unionizing fast fooders.What the “oppressed”workers don’t realize is that union dues will eat up any increase they get.Back to square one.

docflash on August 29, 2013 at 5:42 PM

I have no objections. They may strike for $30.00 an hour if they wish. it’s a free country (so far). However, potential strikers should be cognizant of the inexorable economic law of Supply and Demand and of collateral effects. With the skill sets required for fast food franchises it might take some time–like maybe 10 seconds–to find suitable replacements. So instead of $15 an hour, striking workers would be making 0 dollars an hour.

But let’s assume their $15 an hour demand became enacted into law by some inane, incompetent, clueless, socialist administration (I can’t think of such a rotten administration, can you?). Either the fast food franchises would fold faster than a US Army shelter half, simultaneously laying off hundreds of thousand or workers or Supply and Demand would do it for them slightly more slowly. The effects of this dramatic wage increase would be inflationary and cause workers in other industries to demand increased salaries to meet increased meal costs. Not terribly likely to happen in asn Obama-polluted economy. What is more likely is that people will eat out less causing a ripple effect in the restaurant industry. Eventually these over proced workers will all be fired.

MaiDee on August 29, 2013 at 5:44 PM

What the “oppressed”workers don’t realize is that union dues will eat up any increase they get.Back to square one.

docflash on August 29, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Can’t you just hear them when/if they figure it out…”DUDE!”

MontanaMmmm on August 29, 2013 at 5:44 PM

It always amazes me that liberal idiots who whine about raising the minimum wage are typically the same ones who want to glut the labor pool by legalizing 30 million low-skilled migrants. /sarc

But setting that sad fact aside, as well as the unlikelihood of 9-dollar McMuffins catching on… the larger point that so many people seem to be missing is that THIS is where Obama and Democrats want to take this country… a nation of fast food jobs paying fifteen dollars per hour. No industry. No creative advancements. No American ingenuity. Just a gawping void filled with McJobs. That’s the future Democrats want to bring us.

Murf76 on August 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

People don’t understand that whatever you make the minimum wage… it will still always be the minimum wage.

Make it $100. and hour and it will still be the minimum wage with the same or less buying power as it has now. Do you think teachers are going to be happy being paid the same as McDonald’s worker? Are lawyers going to be happy being paid minimum wage? Union workers?
As soon as you raise the wage… everybody in every single other occupation is going to look and say… “We don’t work for no minimum wage!” And there you go!

When the wage started in 1938 it was 25 cents and hour. Now it’s over $7. an increase of over a thousand percent and what good has it done?

I still remember something my 6th grade teacher told me back around 1972. The teacher’s union wanted more money. They all wanted raises.. and my 6th grade teacher told me that he makes less money that garbage workers do in New York. I didn’t know any better at the time.. but it didn’t matter to my teacher that he lived and worked in PA and the garbage collectors making more money lived and worked in New York City. He still didn’t like making less money that a garbage collector.

And that is the way it will always be. Raise the minimum to $500. and hour and the first thing a whole lot of other employees and union workers are going to say across this nation is “I’m not working for no minimum wage! I deserve more than that!”

JellyToast on August 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

That was 32 years ago. I consider that a long time.

Hayabusa on August 29, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Well then, you’re very short sighted or very young.

I’m a historian. 32 years isn’t anything.

Happy Nomad on August 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

I really have no idea how this will turn out, but I would place a sizable wager that says there are more people willing to work for $7.25 an hour, than those who are willing to go on strike because of it.

DDay on August 29, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Lots of senior citizens out there who would work at $7.25/hr. just to supplement their SS and be able to put food on their tables and pay for their meds.

GrannyDee on August 29, 2013 at 5:46 PM

nobar on August 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I only chose $7.25 because that’s what many of the striking employees are getting paid (and not because I myself think it’s what they would be paid in a perfectly efficient market).

You can plug whatever number you want in there and my basic point remains the same: the argument that “the market always pays a fair wage and so because the market pays these employees X amount they must be receiving a fair wage” is logically fallacious. Which is funny, because I hear it (or variants of it) constantly.

righty45 on August 29, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Hey…big idea here. Let’s pay everybody double, and have everything cost twice as much. Then we’ll be cooking with oil, my friends. Oh yeah!

stldave on August 29, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Damn but the thread pic looks really, really good. When’s dinner?

princetrumpet on August 29, 2013 at 5:47 PM

It’s unfortunate that these low-paying jobs disproportionately effect Obama voters. Oh well.

BKeyser on August 29, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Iacoca was wrong.

we won’t be flippin burgers either.

WryTrvllr on August 29, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Double-double, animal style please.

Ward Cleaver on August 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Actually, In-n-Out pays their workers OVER minimum wage… their profession appearance and friendly demeanor (and EXCELLENT FOOD) is why In-n-Out is my “fast food” of choice…

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canopfor on August 29, 2013 at 5:51 PM

In and Out Burger pays its employees a great wage and pays its managers extremely well. They are, by far, the best fast food joint in the business.

Their employees are intelligent, dress well, smile, and concerned with customer satisfaction and deliver a good product.

rickyricardo on August 29, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Yeah, but then In and Out Burger is the Gordon Ramsay of of the fast foods :)…

jimver on August 29, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Here’s an idea – pay them $15 bucks an hour and then charge them the cost of training and inefficiency that a new employee represents.

utahprez on August 29, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Hablo Espanyol, or something like that is what you’ll be hearing when it’s your turn to order next time…

patman77 on August 29, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Since they can’t even make change without the register (you know, that machine with the pictograms on it) telling them the amount to return, couldn’t we just tell them they are making fifteen dollars per hour?

M240H on August 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Most Excellent!

WryTrvllr on August 29, 2013 at 5:59 PM

I was visiting a family member at the local hospital today and the TV was on. They were interviewing one of these group’s ‘spokespersons.’ He’d been a delivery driver for one of the larger chains for over twenty years.

Mull that over for a bit…

I have no qualms with his choice of vocation: If he likes delivering food, good for him. I did it myself when I was seventeen, and wasn’t impressed, but it’s a free country and that’s his choice.

But twenty years? How low was the bar set in this still relatively young man’s life that ‘fast food delivery driver’ was as far up the chain as he was willing to go? And why would he assume that his extensive ‘time in grade’ performing this near mindless task should equate to a livable wage?

CaptFlood on August 29, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Don’t worry. I’ve seen comments from these idiot fvcking obama voters all over the place saying increasing the minimum would only add 42 cents or some such bullsh!t to the cost of a meal.

All you have to do is disseminate one stupid comment such as that amongst those parasites and it becomes gospel.

Lanceman on August 29, 2013 at 6:02 PM

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 1.8 million paid-hourly employees were paid the federal minimum wage of $7.25 in 2010.5 These 1.8 million employees can be broken down into two broad groups:

Roughly half (49.0 percent) are teenagers or young adults aged 24 or under. A large majority (62.2 percent) of this group live in families with incomes two or more times the official poverty level.6 Looking just at the families of teenaged minimum wage workers, the average income is almost $70,600, and only 16.8 percent are below the poverty line.7 Note that the federal minimum wage applies to workers of all ages.8
The other half (51.0 percent) are aged 25 and up.9 More of these workers live in poor families (29.2 percent) or near the poverty level (46.2 percent had family incomes less than 1.5 times the poverty level).10However, even within this half of all minimum wage employees, 24.8 percent voluntarily work part-time, and just 34.3 percent are full-time full-year employees.11
Only 20.8 percent of all minimum wage workers are family heads or spouses working full time, 30.8 percent were children, and 32.2 percent are young Americans enrolled in school.12 The popular belief that minimum wage workers are poor adults (25 years old or older), working full time and trying to raise a family is largely untrue. Just 4.7 percent match that description.13 Indeed, many minimum wage workers live in families with incomes well above the poverty level.

repvoter on August 29, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Presenting actual data is a racist act.

slickwillie2001 on August 29, 2013 at 6:02 PM

They are behind it in Houston today.They are salivating about unionizing fast fooders.What the “oppressed”workers don’t realize is that union dues will eat up any increase they get.Back to square one.

docflash on August 29, 2013 at 5:42 PM

While Wisconsin moves in the other direction – workers generally keep their earnings while paying less or no union dues.

22044 on August 29, 2013 at 6:02 PM

And by the way, I’ve taken a $6 an hour hit in my wages since Nan Piglosi took over the House in ’07. obama policies have certainly aggravated the situation as well.

Lanceman on August 29, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Why is it that when I use the word ‘parasite’ I automatically think of libdie and verbaldouche?

Maybe Boortz’ use of the word in conjunction with whom he refers to has something to do with it.

Lanceman on August 29, 2013 at 6:05 PM

I heard on the radio this morning that the SEIU was behind this.

kingsjester on August 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM

They are behind it in Houston today.They are salivating about unionizing fast fooders.What the “oppressed”workers don’t realize is that union dues will eat up any increase they get.Back to square one.

docflash on August 29, 2013 at 5:42 PM

It’s all SEIU, and democratics are salivating because they end up with about 25% of the union dues.

slickwillie2001 on August 29, 2013 at 6:05 PM

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