Scarborough: Are all of these racist claims about voter ID maybe getting a little out-of-control?

posted at 4:01 pm on August 29, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Attorney General Eric Holder announced last week that he’ll be pursuing a suit against the state of Texas for their voter ID laws, specifically to require certain states with a history of discrimination via the 50-year-old standard of the Voting Rights Act to submit changes to their administrative voting laws to the federal government for approval, regardless of the Supreme Court’s ruling on the issue. Ergo, and in light of the fiftieth anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I have a dream” speech and March on Washington this week, we’ve most recently been treated to such delightfully fair-minded lines of progressive thought as, “Are conservatives the new confederates?” And, “Congratulations, Republicans. You have taken the place of Jim Crow.” …Hyperbole? Joe Scarborough certainly thinks so:

SCARBOROUGH: Not cross examining you here, I’ve been reading this and the new stories on it and makes it sound like we’re going back to Jim Crow laws, there are going to be white people with bull whips whipping black people if they come to vote and Bull Conner is there ready to release German Shepards. Again I ask innocently, does North Carolina or Texas require anything more than a picture I.D. that when somebody shows up to vote, that the person has a picture I.D. with them, that proves they are who they say they are? Anything else? … I’m not being cute here. I’m reading all of these stories that talk about basically you’re putting a white hood over the governor of North Carolina, putting a white hood over the entire Texas legislature, most Americans would think it’s not racist to ask somebody to just have a picture I.D. when they show up at the voting booth. But you read “the New York Times” and you read these other media outlets that again make politicians in North Carolina and Texas sound racist for just saying hey, you’re going to need a picture I.D. to prove you are who you are. I ask, Mike, Willie, Richard Haas, anybody, is there anything else in these laws other than a demand that somebody have a picture I.D. when they show up to vote?


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Shut up, Joe…

OmahaConservative on August 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Broken clock

cmsinaz on August 29, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Who’s the bald dweeb?

Red Cloud on August 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Stop making sense. I mean really. It’s all racist unless you want to make voting as easy as buying a fully automatic assault grenade launcher.

Johnnyreb on August 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM

It’s German Shepherds, as in herding sheep, which is precisely what these race hustlers do.

John the Libertarian on August 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM

You need an ID to buy a 6 pack, right? Is that racist?

EA_MAN on August 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Let’s follow BJ Clinton’s suggestion equating voting and buying an “assualt rifle” …

… in order to vote you have to:

1) Present a current federal or state issued picture I.D.

2) Pass an instant F.B.I. background check

3) Fill out a multi-page form detailing your current address, place of birth, etc.

Win-Win

PolAgnostic on August 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Obviously the democrats have been engaged in far more fraud than even the most cynical of us would have ever suspected. Wow.

Zomcon JEM on August 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Once you’ve lost Scarborough…

Akzed on August 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Tired and lame line that needs to die

Drunk Report on August 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM

A majority of both blacks AND Hispanics polled support voter ID… so are they racist, too?

michaelo on August 29, 2013 at 4:10 PM

See, the laws only require black people to provide ID; that’s why they’re racist.

No?

White folks too?

Oh. Uh.

Nevermind.

BKeyser on August 29, 2013 at 4:10 PM

My dog votes by absentee ballot. I love places that have more voters than residents.

tim c on August 29, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Scarborough: Are all of these racist claims about voter ID maybe getting a little out-of-control?

No Joe, not at all……I think you guys need to up the ante,
and peddle all this Horshi*t even more. Fill your “News Channel”
24/7 with race baiting Jackazzes who Hate White Americans…

ToddPA on August 29, 2013 at 4:13 PM

I sincerely hope the media continues with their race-baiting on the voter ID issue because that’ll only bring more people to realize how insane the Left has become.

In that detested part of the country the media likes to refer to as “flyover,” millions of Americans actually support tougher voting laws, even beyond what the GOP is proposing.

Aizen on August 29, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Did Joe just get himself fired?

sadatoni on August 29, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Well the NC law also shortens early voting and makes people be on the rolls before going to the polling booth. Before they could vote like a month before the election and sign up to be a “voter” on the same day they voted.

neither do I have a problem with

unseen on August 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I’ll take “Number of ways Eric Holder can ruin your life” for $500 Alex.

fogw on August 29, 2013 at 4:18 PM

there are exactly two reasons these dems don’t want to have a picture ID to vote

1) they do not want to be limited in voting under the current liaise-fare method of voting using somebody else’s name multiple times, and

2) they do not want to provide contact information that brings in jury summons, warrant chasers and assorted other touches by the government

Note just about all that fall under #1 have valid ID’s

They know it, we know it and they know we know it.

DanMan on August 29, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Tired and lame line that needs to die

Drunk Report on August 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM

It’ll die with the last leftist racist demagogue’s death, and not before.

Midas on August 29, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Well the NC law also shortens early voting and makes people be on the rolls before going to the polling booth. Before they could vote like a month before the election and sign up to be a “voter” on the same day they voted.

neither do I have a problem with

unseen on August 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I do; both make fraud easier, and early voting can wind up with a vote cast for someone who winds up not even on the ticket for some reason.

Register before election day, vote on election day. Simple.

Midas on August 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Gee, ya think?

rbj on August 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Why can’t the Democrats just be honest and say, “If you have to show i.d., chances are you can only vote once. How fair is that?”

bflat879 on August 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I haven’t voted here in Kentucky yet to see how stringent the laws are here, but having lived in Connecticut for the last 20 years they required a valid government issued ID to vote. And it couldn’t be your EBT or Library card. You walked in showed them your Drivers License and they actually checked the Registered voter rolls and crossed your name off the print out. If you are not on the list, your ballot goes in the questionable box to be checked later. So if for some reason you decided to, I don’t know, maybe come back and vote three more times, you couldn’t do that!

What a concept. And a State ID is free if you want one. Heck they even have buses that will come around and take Seniors and non-driving people to the places that issue those ID’s and it doesn’t cost you a dime!

Johnnyreb on August 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Our votes and public opinion as a whole don’t count for much these days as it is. Most Americans didn’t want Obamacare but we are force to have it. We don’t want an attack on Syria, but Obama is determined to do it.

I don’t see why liberals object to voter ID. Votes won’t mean a thing at all in a few years, if we’re still allowed to vote.

Liam on August 29, 2013 at 4:26 PM

What a concept. And a State ID is free if you want one. Heck they even have buses that will come around and take Seniors and non-driving people to the places that issue those ID’s and it doesn’t cost you a dime!

Johnnyreb on August 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Yes, but to do that you have to leave your house, which is racist or something.

CurtZHP on August 29, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Scarborough: Are all of these racist claims about voter ID maybe getting a little out-of-control?

Joe, Joe, Get a grip, enough is enough!

This is the second time this month you’ve pretended to see the Republican side of an issue.

The only explanation is the recently released horrible MSNBC ratings are driving Joe to do crazy things.

RJL on August 29, 2013 at 4:27 PM

What a concept. And a State ID is free if you want one. Heck they even have buses that will come around and take Seniors and non-driving people to the places that issue those ID’s and it doesn’t cost you a dime!

Johnnyreb on August 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM

That is called ‘an undue burden’ by the Left.

Liam on August 29, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Hey Joe!

Listen up!! One word for you. TAMPONS.

Just put the woman on who likes to wear them!

ToddPA on August 29, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Well the NC law also shortens early voting and makes people be on the rolls before going to the polling booth. Before they could vote like a month before the election and sign up to be a “voter” on the same day they voted.

neither do I have a problem with

unseen on August 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I do; both make fraud easier, and early voting can wind up with a vote cast for someone who winds up not even on the ticket for some reason.

Register before election day, vote on election day. Simple.

Midas on August 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM

The ‘early voting’ scam enables the common democratic party fraud where one person goes to multiple precincts, counties and even states to vote again and again. Limiting voting to voting day (duh) cuts down on that avenue of fraud.

Absentee voting should still be allowed for those genuinely unavailable on voting day or because of disabilities.

slickwillie2001 on August 29, 2013 at 4:29 PM

This is all so stupid.

First, it’s not about “this is right or wrong”. It’s about “this is legal or not”. If you are not legit to vote, you should NOT be allowed to vote.

Then, and this is for all the fools, from all sides – a photo ID proves nothing other than that you and the picture match. It does NOT prove that you are legal/legitimate to vote.

Here are 3 legitimate documents to grant you to vote legally in the US:

- birth certificate
- passport
- naturalization certificate

Wake up, morons of the land. It’s no wonder the land is such a latrine. What is not corrupt is diminished by utter stupidity and pulling the wool over the real issues.

p.s. that Mika makes for a better prop than a dummy cardboard one ever could.

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM

I guess the NAACP’s own election rules are racist – I heard a segment on WMAL that revealed the protocol involved, including proper identification.

22044 on August 29, 2013 at 4:35 PM

OT, HA, but if you’re going to imbed videos that force me to sit through a 30-second commercial before I can view the content, then forget it. At least on YouTube you can “skip” the ad.

HiJack on August 29, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Chicago

Schadenfreude on August 29, 2013 at 4:38 PM

HiJack on August 29, 2013 at 4:37 PM


Abine

Bmore on August 29, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Most of it’s true though, and next thing you know a former high ranker from the KKK will be elected senator and serve for 50 years, think how awful that would be.

Bishop on August 29, 2013 at 4:41 PM

You need an ID to buy a 6 pack, right? Is that racist?

EA_MAN on August 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Apparently, none of these folk drink. *cough*

avagreen on August 29, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Both Georgia and Indiana have had Voter ID for multiple elections. Their turnouts have been higher and there’s been no evidence of suppression. In all, thirty-four states have some form of Voter ID- twenty require photo ID. Where’s the suppression?

Anybody making accusations of racism or voter suppression is a lying a** deserving of something more painful than mere contempt.

M240H on August 29, 2013 at 4:43 PM

If it was conceded that requiring people to show a photo ID — that ID would be issued without requiring payment, that ID could be a driver’s license — was not an unreasonable requirement (I have had to present a driver’s license ever since I started to vote) then the opponents of voter ID would lose one tool by which they can claim that there is still active and widespread voter suppression and discrimination.

One possible result is that people might wonder, if the opponents, often liberal/progressives and Democrats, were wrong about that, given the strident protests, then what else might they be exagerating the impacts. People might wonder if it was all for political impact (i.e. a self-serving agenda) and not because there was any (2013) real problem?

Hence, the effort to claim that voter ID MUST be intended for suppression without any proof that the way it would be implemented would have that effect. Easier to monitor and jump all over actual suppression (easier then to show that opposition is justified) but that would require opponents to concede to the possibility their position is now unfounded as a general rule.

Russ808 on August 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM

So far another troll free thread, did they all start School today?

MontanaMmmm on August 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM

LOL at that capture of Mike Allen from Politico. Usually to get him to grin that wide it would take a Sarah Palin hit piece and then he’d bounce up and down and spit, too.

Marcus on August 29, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Someone check the temperature in hell, I do believe it may be a bit colder.

Zexerz on August 29, 2013 at 4:49 PM

SCARBOROUGH: Not cross examining you here, I’ve been reading this and the new stories on it and makes it sound like we’re going back to Jim Crow laws, there are going to be white people with bull whips whipping black people if they come to vote and Bull Conner is there ready to release German Shepards.
================================

Scarborough is confusing,the Black Panther,Night Stick episode at the voting polling station ordeal ,back when!!

Gawd,whips,they are soooo stuck back in the Plantation era!!

canopfor on August 29, 2013 at 4:50 PM

If requiring photo ID is racist then I guess the argument is minorities are too dumb to obtain ID.

echosyst on August 29, 2013 at 4:50 PM

? Do they require and ID to get an EBT card, I honestly don’t know.

MontanaMmmm on August 29, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Data and numerous interviews by Reuters reporters also suggest there is little evidence to bolster Republican assertions that ID laws are needed to combat rampant voter fraud.

If true why the D problem with them?

Bmore on August 29, 2013 at 4:56 PM

So far another troll free thread, did they all start School today?

MontanaMmmm on August 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM

.
They all have detention for “acting out” in class
.

PolAgnostic on August 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Once again, liberal hysteria is proving wrong. Texas first election under voter ID is going on without a hitch. And the voters showing up strongly SUPPORT the new law (and, folks, this is in the Valley; strongly Hispanic area.) Even the the left-leaning Texas Trib has to admit a lack of issues (but, of course, they interview some ‘concerned’ Democrat officials…which have not found a problem…yet.)

michaelo on August 29, 2013 at 5:02 PM

PolAgnostic on August 29, 2013 at 4:58 PM

I saw your comment on the Booker thread. I was already OT and didn’t want to hijack the thread. ; )

Bmore on August 29, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Why do they need to show Mika trying to look interested? Weird.

Deafdog on August 29, 2013 at 5:12 PM

So far another troll free thread, did they all start School today?

MontanaMmmm on August 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Now that you bring it up, I did see some short-buses on the roads earlier today.

slickwillie2001 on August 29, 2013 at 5:18 PM

You need an ID to buy a 6 pack, right? Is that racist?

I think you have to have an ID to buy a pack of blunts too. Anyone know?

Mason on August 29, 2013 at 5:21 PM

I ask, Mike, Willie, Richard Haas, anybody, is there anything else in these laws other than a demand that somebody have a picture I.D. when they show up to vote?

Don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer from those clowns. They’ve got an agenda, and their sticking to it.

Or as Billy Bob Clinton said, ‘why can’t voting be as easy as purchasing an assault weapon?’

Evidently Billy Bob isn’t familiar with all the hoops you have to jump through to purchase a weapon.

Hey Bill! How about a BACKGROUND CHECK, a FINGERPRINT CHECK, and an ID check in order to vote?

Ya DUMB ASS!

GarandFan on August 29, 2013 at 5:28 PM

? Do they require and ID to get an EBT card, I honestly don’t know.

Well its in the law but I don’t know if it’s really enforced. See the requirements for income verification in Obamacare for more information.

DanMan on August 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I guess the NAACP’s own election rules are racist – I heard a segment on WMAL that revealed the protocol involved, including proper identification.

22044 on August 29, 2013 at 4:35 PM

But, but… if it impacts minorities the most, has the NAACP ever had an internal election where they let any of their members actually vote?

Midas on August 29, 2013 at 5:37 PM

somebody remind these idiots on the left than even when they go to the bank to cash a check, the bank tellers want to see an ID..but then, yeah, we all know that the banks are part of the vast, right-wing ID conspiracy…

jimver on August 29, 2013 at 5:47 PM

DanMan on August 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Thanks, that’s what I guessed.
No fraud here see, honor system works great.

MontanaMmmm on August 29, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Tired and lame line that needs to die

Drunk Report on August 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM

It won’t. Democrats are too invested in this meme to drop it, facts be damned. It’s been a reliable tool for securing their prime constituency so of course they’re not going to admit that it’s just a red-herring.

heretic on August 29, 2013 at 6:08 PM

I wish I had a list of all the charges dems have slung against the Republicans over the last 4 years. Every time you turn around they’re politicizing the issues and using them to paint them as evil, sinister, conniving racists who want to run granny over a cliff in her wheelchair and fire all the teachers and firemen and air traffic controllers and yank the food stamps from starving babies. Dems are delusional, paranoid hate mongers.

scalleywag on August 29, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Joe, you know what happens when you get off-message:
Mika goes completely catatonic!

Another Drew on August 29, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Bull Connor was a Democrat.

George Wallace was a Democrat.

The racist South was all Democrats.

Over a third of all Congressional Democrats voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Only 20% or less of Republicans voted against it.

JamesS on August 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Heck, if I was in charge, you would have to pass a basic civics exam to be able to register. If you can’t demonstrate knowledge of how our system and Constitution are supposed to work, then you really have no business in a voting booth. Funny how dems are still terrified that they cannot win without rampant voter fraud.

SteveThomas on August 29, 2013 at 6:53 PM

What is Mika’s job on that show?

BoxHead1 on August 29, 2013 at 6:56 PM

According to democrats, blacks can’t figure out how to get ID, and are all on welfare and can’t afford it anyway. But yeah, we’re the racists, lol.

xblade on August 29, 2013 at 7:07 PM

What is Mika’s job on that show?

BoxHead1

Blow?

xblade on August 29, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Heck, if I was in charge, you would have to pass a basic civics exam to be able to register. If you can’t demonstrate knowledge of how our system and Constitution are supposed to work, then you really have no business in a voting booth. Funny how dems are still terrified that they cannot win without rampant voter fraud.

SteveThomas on August 29, 2013 at 6:53 PM

That’s because they can’t.

slickwillie2001 on August 29, 2013 at 7:10 PM

All first time voter registrants should be required to pass the Citizenship Test used by INS.

Another Drew on August 29, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Bill Clinton was saying yesterday that not only should photo ID be required to vote, but that each time a person votes they should be subject to a federal background check.

I have to admit, I DO think that last part is a bit excessive.

malclave on August 29, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Didn’t our illustrious President just recently praise Kenya for its voter ID protecting the integrity of the ballot?

JayVee on August 29, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Texas is red, Texas has a lot of electoral college votes and must be turned blue. To do this illegals need to be given amnesty and minorities need to be allowed to vote multiple times for the Dem. That is all.

neyney on August 29, 2013 at 8:16 PM

My dog votes by absentee ballot. I love places that have more voters than residents.

tim c on August 29, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Your dog lives in Chicago, huh?

tgharris on August 29, 2013 at 8:22 PM

….But they wont go after states who make narcotics LEGAL.

The hypocrisy and doublespeak from these a$$holes in the white house and DOJ is astounding.

We wont ‘interfere’ with colorado and washington to make narcotics legal, but we WILL interfere with Texas’s ability to keep elections fair, legal and accurate.

These people are a crock of $hit and should be Impeached, tried for treason and hanged depending on their criminal culpability.

TX-96 on August 29, 2013 at 8:26 PM

I wouldn’t pay Joe minimum wage for the crap that comes out of his pie hole. A fast food worker has more common sense and would probably do a better job than blowhard Joe.

racquetballer on August 29, 2013 at 8:48 PM

What is Mika’s job on that show?

BoxHead1 on August 29, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Why do people keep parrots as pets ?

cableguy615 on August 29, 2013 at 9:14 PM

2010 Senatorial race in Nevada:

A GOP phone bank worker calls a registered Republican to urge her to vote for Sharron Angle. A woman answers the home phone.
The worker asks to speak to “Jane Smith”.

The woman says: “Why do you want to speak to my daughter?”
Worker: “I would like to urge her to vote for Sharron Angle.”
Woman: “My daughter is only 11!!”
Worker; “Well, she’s voted in the last two presidential elections.”

True story. I wonder how many more “registered Republicans” are merely Democrat front names?

The last poll, just 3 days before the election, had Angle over Reid by 4 points, after steadily climbing up from behind Reid. Reid won by 5, setting a new record of a 9 point variance.

Yeah, photo ID might help a bit.

fred5678 on August 29, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Every election I have participated in has required ID. I had to produce my voter registration (no photo) and a government issued ID like a driver’s license. This is Florida, but until all this crap came up, I thought that was the norm nationwide.

In the last election, I was feeling a little confrontational, so instead of my DL, I handed the lady my CWP, and the lady told me that it was not satisfactory. I informed her that this license requires not only a photo, but fingerprinting and an FBI background check as well, but she was adamant that it would not be acceptable, and other poll workers (all black, incidentally) were drawing closer and looking at me warily, like I might make a scene, or heaven forbid, jerk a pistol. I thought about getting loud and demanding it be accepted, but in the end, I submitted and gave her my DL…

And as I was leaving the polling place, there was a lady outside the door that was handing out a “voter’s guide” that gave the names of every democrat approved candidate in every race, from President to local judges to school board candidates to dog catcher, and how to vote on every local referendum…

These thugs are relentless…

PointnClick on August 29, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Eric “rodeo clown” Holder, your worst nightmare has begun.

First election in Texas requiring voter ID in a city that is majority Hispanic and NO ONE IS UPSET! Worse yet, the reporter that wrote the story, could only find and interview persons that liked the law or thought voting was going smoothly under it.

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Voter-ID-law-goes-into-effect-in-Edinburg-4769800.php

Oh, the Humanity!

lonestarleeroy on August 30, 2013 at 12:54 AM

The second favorite claim of the anti-ID forces is that “there is no widespread voter fraud.”

Of course, this sort of fraud can’t be detected unless a picture ID is required. In many city wards and precincts, the captains know who votes and who doesn’t from the registered rolls. Their poll watchers let them know who hasn’t voted by say 2 pm, they then compare it to the list of those who haven’t voted the last two elections, pick a Democrat from another precinct who won’t be recognized and send them in to vote the missing voters.

It cannot be discovered at all without requiring positive ID.

Democrats aren’t all that stupid to spend so much effort on this because they fear real disenfranchisement. They know their little scam works in close races in many places.

Adjoran on August 30, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Al Franken was elected to the Senate thanks to thousands of felons who couldn’t vote.

mountainaires on August 30, 2013 at 6:29 AM

You should all read Kos sometimes. Quite a few of them just absolutely HATE Scarborough over there. He is RWNJ material and they yearn for the day when MSNBC gets rid of him.

I just say this to point out the mindset of those we’re dealing with. If Joe is a RWNJ who must be silenced, how can actual conservatives reach these people? We can’t. Don’t even try. Don’t argue with them. You’d have better luck with a brick wall.

Chris of Rights on August 30, 2013 at 9:56 AM

with 3 years until the next presidential election, its too inconvenient for them to get a photo id?

seems anything and evertying to obama supporters warrants the race card.

sniffles1999 on August 30, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Since Dems say voting is the most valuable thing there is. fine lets get photo id’s so someone cant steal your vote.

sniffles1999 on August 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Mika: this is a fair argument that has been had in the media in a one-sided way.

Uh…not quite. This is, per liberal dope Joe, an outrageous attack on proponents of voter ID laws, accusing them of racism, and it has been marketed that way exclusively by the Propaganda Press/DNC Media.

Close to a rational point, Mika, but not quite right. (Btw, you’re putting on weight and you don’t look great just now. Sorry to say it.)

Jaibones on August 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM