Michigan legislature goes for Medicaid expansion

posted at 2:41 pm on August 28, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Much to the Obama administration’s chagrin, the Supreme Court justices decided in their 2012 ObamaCare ruling that states were free to opt out of the proffered Medicaid expansion, wherein the federal government would pay for 100 percent of the costs of newly eligible people for the first few years and eventually shift to covering 90 percent of the costs by 2022.

A little less than half of the states are declining to expand their Medicaid rolls (I’ll embed a map below for your viewing convenience), but we can now just about officially take Michigan off of the list of Republican-held states still deciding on whether or not to take the Obama administration up on their seemingly generous offer. The Virginia and Ohio legislatures are still duking it out, but Tuesday evening the Michigan House came up with a plan (not without the requisite drama, of course) to match the version passed by their Senate at the end of July, and Gov. Snyder is all about signing it when it makes it to his desk. Via HuffPo:

Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, one of nine Republican governors to endorse the Medicaid expansion, has aggressively pursued the policy since February. All 12 Michigan Senate Democrats joined with eight of the chamber’s 26 Republicans to achieve a majority — and overcame a bold move to block the bill by one staunch conservative opponent — in the Senate Tuesday, setting up final action on the measure early next month.

Assuming Michigan moves forward with its “Healthy Michigan” plan, 24 states and the District of Columbia will add a projected 9 million low-income people to their Medicaid rolls in 2014. The remaining states — all but one led by Republican governors — won’t make these health benefits available under the Obamacare law, leaving an estimated 3.4 million people uncovered.

“It’s about helping 470,000 Michiganders have a better life,” Snyder said at a press conference following the Senate vote Tuesday evening. “We all know someone that falls in that category: hardworking people but lower-income people that couldn’t afford health insurance,” he said. “This isn’t about the Affordable Care Act. This is about one element that we control in Michigan that can make a difference in peoples’ lives.”

Oof. Here’s the aforementioned map, with the exception that Michigan is now firmly in the “participating” category:


Where the States Stand

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We’re stuck with it folks!

LeftCoastRight on August 28, 2013 at 2:43 PM

I love Ted Cruz…..

DEFUND IT!!

GO DOWN FIGHTING Conservatives!!!!

PappyD61 on August 28, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Principles!!!

Stand on them, though cowards surround us.

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PappyD61 on August 28, 2013 at 2:45 PM

DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM

is the alternate link.

PappyD61 on August 28, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Attack Big Government, Launch The CRUZ Missile

M240H on August 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM

I’m getting closer and closer to becoming one of those Texas wingnuts promoting seccession.

NOMOBO on August 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM

I will not be voting for Snyder this November, or my local reps.

NotCoach on August 28, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Funny how all the parasite states and DC are participating.

Happy Nomad on August 28, 2013 at 2:51 PM

That is when the doctor no longer treat you, fools.

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2013 at 2:51 PM

doctors, in the plural

Schadenfreude on August 28, 2013 at 2:51 PM

We’re stuck with it folks!

LeftCoastRight on August 28, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Too bad most have not figured that out yet.

Dr. Frank Enstine on August 28, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Snyder raised taxes substantially on workers in Michigan and wants to raise them some more. He supported all facets of Obamacare. He also vetoed voter ID laws etc. I won’t miss him at all if he loses. He’s passed many Democrat agendas that Granholm could not. I’ll be voting third party this year.

Goodale on August 28, 2013 at 2:55 PM

According to this map, there are 51 states. So the People’s Rupublic Hunger Capital of Columbia is now a state?

nobar on August 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM

That’s a pretty good map for how the Liberty Amendments would be embraced – or not.

I miss America.

beatcanvas on August 28, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I’m getting closer and closer to becoming one of those Texas wingnuts promoting seccession.

NOMOBO on August 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM

It’s against the law. Maybe. See writings of Scalia on the subject. Some say that the pledge forbids it with the line “one nation, indivisible.” but, I think that is a red herring because if you want to secede from the Union you wouldn’t much care about a pledge. The precedent was set in the Civil War and any state trying to secede would quickly have troops occupying them.

Dr. Frank Enstine on August 28, 2013 at 3:00 PM

He’s passed many Democrat agendas that Granholm could not.

Goodale on August 28, 2013 at 2:55 PM

That seems to be the way doesn’t it. When the dems fail, send in the repub to get the job the dems couldn’t do done.

Dr. Frank Enstine on August 28, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Opps. Moderation ate my last comment. I guess there is still a lid on mentioning American history.

Dr. Frank Enstine on August 28, 2013 at 3:03 PM

OT – FLASH: Fort Hood terrorist sentenced to death…Drudge

CoffeeLover on August 28, 2013 at 3:04 PM

“We all know someone that falls in that category: hardworking people but lower-income people that couldn’t afford health insurance,” he said. “This isn’t about the Affordable Care Act. This is about one element that we control in Michigan that can make a difference in peoples’ lives.”

 
Maybe y’all should consider repealing the laws that obviously prevent individuals from donating their money and time to helping these folks pay their monthly insurance premiums.

rogerb on August 28, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Well I guess Michigan wants to follow Detroit into bankruptcy.

bgibbs1000 on August 28, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Or in other words: “We want the entire state to be like Detroit! Lean forward!”

Thanks for the map, it will make it easier to plan routes for the modern Underground Railroad spiriting blue state conservatives into the Free Zones.

Bishop on August 28, 2013 at 3:06 PM

GO DOWN FIGHTING Conservatives!!!!

PappyD61 on August 28, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Either way, we’ve lost whether we go down fighting or not.

eva3071 on August 28, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Yeah lets return to that time in U.S. history when private charity offered modern healthcare services to a significant portion of the population through donation alone. Good times rogerb, good times.

Well I guess Michigan wants to follow Detroit into bankruptcy.

bgibbs1000 on August 28, 2013 at 3:05 PM

What part of “the federal government pays 100% of the costs and the state pays 10% of the cost in ten years” do you not understand?

libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

What part of “the federal government pays 100% of the costs and the state pays 10% of the cost in ten years” do you not understand?

libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

What part of leave us the fluke alone and stop using the federal government to meddle in our lives do YOU not understand sweetheart?

jawkneemusic on August 28, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Frickin Brewer

cmsinaz on August 28, 2013 at 3:25 PM

We narrowly avoided this in Texas. There were so many lobbies pushing hard for it that it took extreme vigilance by the TEA party to keep it from happening. I’m not surprised other red states succumbed to the pressure.

Kafir on August 28, 2013 at 3:25 PM

We’re stuck with it folks!

LeftCoastRight on August 28, 2013 at 2:43 PM

You’re just now discovering that? It’s going to be changed, however. The best we can hope for is that it will grow, very slowly.

rickv404 on August 28, 2013 at 3:26 PM

R.I.P GOP

Mr. Arrogant on August 28, 2013 at 3:26 PM

What part of “the federal government pays 100% of the costs and the state pays 10% of the cost in ten years” do you not understand?

libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

And that magic money comes from where?

WitchDoctor on August 28, 2013 at 3:26 PM

What part of “the federal government pays 100% of the costs and the state pays 10% of the cost in ten years” do you not understand?

libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

That the total adds up to 110%. I guess under Øbamacare, it is possible to have to pay 110% of a bill.

Kafir on August 28, 2013 at 3:28 PM

“It’s about helping 470,000 Michiganders have a better life,” Snyder said at a press conference following the Senate vote Tuesday evening. “We all know someone that falls in that category: hardworking people but lower-income people that couldn’t afford health insurance,” he said. “This isn’t about the Affordable Care Act. This is about one element that we control in Michigan that can make a difference in peoples’ lives.”

Meanwhile, when he’s no longer in power come 2022, we’ll hear all the belly-aching about how the states can’t afford the billions of dollars that will be cut from their federal grants.

This is just another example of kicking the can down the road.

ButterflyDragon on August 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM

What part of “the federal government pays 100% of the costs and the state pays 10% of the cost in ten years” do you not understand?

libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Where does the federal government get its money from? The magic money tree? Not only that, those of us who can afford to buy insurance are going to have our rates jacked up by 60 to 100% here in Michigan. Yeah, this is one awesome Fluking deal!

Oh, and one other thing…

Here’s a simple question for you. Which of the founding fathers did not subscribe to the communitarian ethos Calhoun deploys to rationalize slavery? *sets sundial*

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

None. They weren’t nascent Commies like John C. Calhoun, and full blown Commies like you. Don’t you think you need to provide some proof for such a ridiculous smear there Mr. Calhoun? You’re a history perfesser, right?

NotCoach on August 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Oh dear God….hold on, give me 10 minutes.

libfreeordie on August 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Almost 174 hours and still counting. I bet you get your watches from a magic watch tree.

NotCoach on August 28, 2013 at 3:31 PM

It was actually the Michigan House that passed Medicaid expansion first. The Michigan Senate followed suit yesterday. I didn’t choose Snyder in the gubernatorial primary; he was my third choice. I have never been enthusiastic about him. His major selling point when he ran for governor in ’10 was that he was more moderate than other GOP candidates. What a big government sellout.

WV736 on August 28, 2013 at 3:33 PM

What part of “the federal government pays 100% of the costs and the state pays 10% of the cost in ten years” do you not understand?

libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

What part of “Shall be implemented by such and such a date” does your boy not understand?

Your crew can’t even read the bill before passing it into law, then they discover that it’s so effed up that Bark has to completely break the legal confines of his office to put parts of the law on hold while simultaneously granting waivers to the very jackwads who howled for its implementation in the first place.

Yet we’re supposed to believe that those same geniuses will have the spending parameters running flawlessly? O_o

Bishop on August 28, 2013 at 3:37 PM

“It’s about helping 470,000 Michiganders have a better life,” Snyder said at a press conference following the Senate vote Tuesday evening.

Yeah, Democrats say things like that all the time. No wonder Detroit is in the tank.

rickv404 on August 28, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Yeah lets return to that time in U.S. history when private charity offered modern healthcare services to a significant portion of the population through donation alone. Good times rogerb, good times.
 
libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

 
And, again, you prove you don’t, or can’t, understand the topic.
 
The point
 

Maybe y’all should consider repealing the laws that obviously prevent individuals from donating their money and time to helping these folks pay their monthly insurance premiums.
 
rogerb on August 28, 2013 at 3:04 PM

 
was that you, you specifically, LFOD, aren’t legally prevented from paying for the insurance of the less fortunate.
 
You, not the general “you” but meaning you specifically, LFOD, just actively choose not to.
 
Not that it matters since you admitted you’re nothing more than a troll. It clearly fits your abilities well, though. Good for you for finding something you’re good at.

rogerb on August 28, 2013 at 3:47 PM

That’s a pretty good map for how the Liberty Amendments would be embraced – or not.

beatcanvas on August 28, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Depends on which amendment. There are plenty of dyed-in-the-wool Dems that embrace the idea of term limits.

lynncgb on August 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM

What part of “the federal government pays 100% of the costs and the state pays 10% of the cost in ten years” do you not understand?

libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Where does the federal government get its money from? The magic money tree? Not only that, those of us who can afford to buy insurance are going to have our rates jacked up by 60 to 100% here in Michigan. Yeah, this is one awesome Fluking deal!

The politicians that run the state don’t see it that way… they see it the way libfreeordie see it.

JR on August 28, 2013 at 4:16 PM

The notion that money from the Federal government is free is a pernicious one and quite wrong. Generations of young Michiganders will pay the interest on the debt these benefits ring up. It is also a pernicious idea that free stuff makes peoples’ lives better. If it encourages dependency, it discourages getting up the ladder of success which in the long run is much more rewarding. If you are poor and able-bodied, it is much better to make all benefits contingent on working at something rather than making benefits contingent on not working at a job that pays too much.

KW64 on August 28, 2013 at 4:16 PM

It is funny.

These leftist idiots like the Perfesser think that the individual’s ‘Freedom of Choice’ in murdering an incipient human being is the most important thing that the Federal Government can provide…..

But their second most important goal is for the Federal Government to remove that “Freedom of Choice ” for all other medical decisions by an individual or group of individuals.

LegendHasIt on August 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM

“It’s about helping 470,000 Michiganders have a better life,” Snyder said at a press conference following the Senate vote Tuesday evening. “We all know someone that falls in that category: hardworking people but lower-income people that couldn’t afford health insurance,” he said. “This isn’t about the Affordable Care Act. This is about one element that we control in Michigan that can make a difference in peoples’ lives.”

How many things are wrong with this?

The idea that this won’t cost the states anything, or that the feds will pick up 90% of the costs for the first 10 years is sheer nonsense.

For the latter, go look at Disabilities Education Act; the feds promised 40% on that one…in perpetuity…it’s now 17%. And the Administration has already proposed cutting the funding to states for Medicaid, in that fool’s proposed budgets for 2011 and 2012.

How dimwitted do you have to be to believe that the administration has any plans to follow this particular part of this 2000 page law, when they’ve already indicated they do not believe they have to follow any law?

Arizona voluntarily expanded Medicaid in 2005, at a projected cost of about 300 billion…costs are now 400% of that, well over a trillion.

And state costs will surely go up, in the first 10 years, and this will surely be reflected in higher state taxes and more state borrowing. Only a fool could believe this is about doing what’s best for Michigan, or even those 470,000 (since there will be just as many worse off because of this)…but Robertobamacare was never about health care or health insurance…

EastofEden on August 28, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Without Medicaid, Detroit would get no health-care at all.

Another Drew on August 28, 2013 at 5:09 PM

libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

 

And, again, you prove you don’t, or can’t, understand the topic…
 
Not that it matters since you admitted you’re nothing more than a troll. It clearly fits your abilities well, though. Good for you for finding something you’re good at.
 
rogerb on August 28, 2013 at 3:47 PM

 
So all done then, LFOD?
 
Way to reinforce it.

rogerb on August 28, 2013 at 5:11 PM

So when they run out of money for medicaid, what then?

Oh, that’s right, RAISE TAXES.

GarandFan on August 28, 2013 at 5:28 PM

What part of “the federal government pays 100% of the costs and the state pays 10% of the cost in ten years” do you not understand?

libfreeordie on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

The part where you pretend the government has any idea what a program will cost.

After 10 years, when the Fed dumps this; the states are still on the hook for the increased costs. Do you not plan ahead?

Here, I’ll give you $1,000 a month for 10 years; then take every penny you have or ever earn for the rest of your life after that… deal?

Why not? It’s free money for 10 years… isn’t it? What, you don’t want to bite when the hook is in your mouth; but you expect everyone else to do so?

Maybe your plans for the future involve everyone dying before 10 years passes. Some people realize they were alive 10 years ago, and might be alive 10 years in the future.

Sorry your short attention span can’t encompass that idea.

gekkobear on August 28, 2013 at 6:26 PM

NOMOBO on August 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM
I’ve been one of those since 11/7.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 28, 2013 at 7:28 PM

“It’s about helping 470,000 Michiganders have a better life,” Snyder said at a press conference following the Senate vote Tuesday evening. “We all know someone that falls in that category: hardworking people but lower-income people that couldn’t afford health insurance,” he said. “This isn’t about the Affordable Care Act. This is about one element that we control in Michigan that can make a difference in peoples’ lives.”

How soon will Snyder be supporting single-payer nationalized heathcare for all of the people of Michigan?

Snyder is so far in over his head, he does not know what he is supporting.

Freddy on August 28, 2013 at 8:03 PM

It is funny.

These leftist idiots like the Perfesser think that the individual’s ‘Freedom of Choice’ in murdering an incipient human being is the most important thing that the Federal Government can provide…..

But their second most important goal is for the Federal Government to remove that “Freedom of Choice ” for all other medical decisions by an individual or group of individuals.

LegendHasIt on August 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM

A bit more accurate.

AesopFan on August 28, 2013 at 11:40 PM

The idea that this won’t cost the states anything, or that the feds will pick up 90% of the costs for the first 10 years is sheer nonsense.

For the latter, go look at Disabilities Education Act; the feds promised 40% on that one…in perpetuity…it’s now 17%. And the Administration has already proposed cutting the funding to states for Medicaid, in that fool’s proposed budgets for 2011 and 2012.

How dimwitted do you have to be to believe that the administration has any plans to follow this particular part of this 2000 page law, when they’ve already indicated they do not believe they have to follow any law?

EastofEden on August 28, 2013 at 4:44 PM

No promise made by Congress is immune from reneging by Congress, including but not limited to: Social Security, Medicaid, tax regulations, and immigration laws.
No promise by Mr. Obama is worth a plugged nickel.

AesopFan on August 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM

AesopFan on August 28, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Yep.

LegendHasIt on August 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM