Who’s to blame for Miley Cyrus and the VMAs? Congress!

posted at 1:21 pm on August 27, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

There is almost nothing slower than the news cycle in August of an off year, and 2013 has provided plenty of evidence for that theory.  Over the last couple of weeks, we’ve had outrageous outrage vented over a routine skit performed by a rodeo clown at a state fair, the casting of the 376th version of Batman, and now a nation in crisis over a 20-year-old twerking for a living.

In my column for The Week, I put the blame for all of these outrages — or at least the outrage itself — squarely where it belongs … on Congress:

I think we can all blame Congress for taking an extended recess in the middle of summer. Lawmakers should be in Washington, giving overheated scolds material for substantial debate and meaningful social and political criticism. Instead, we are about to end an off-year’s slowest month talking about rodeo clownsBatfleck, and Miley Cyrus’ bizarre performance at the MTV Video Music Awards.

Yes, that’s meant to be tongue in cheek, which is precisely where young Ms. Cyrus should be keeping hers. After the explosion of indignation in the first 24 hours after this performance, I decided to watch it against my better judgment.  In my opinion, the music and entertainment industries need a lot more help than Cyrus does:

Needless to say, I’m not in MTV’s target audience. And until Cyrus’ twerking became a national crisis, I wasn’t even aware of this year’s VMAs. It’s been 20 years since I purposefully watched a music video. But as a conservative commentator, I’d be a very likely candidate for outrageous outrage over this tongue-wagging twerk-a-thon.

After the eruption, I sought out and watched the full clip. It’s outrageous, alright … for its utter lack of originality as well as taste. For the last 30 years or so, we’ve been watching this bump-and-grind choreography in music videos and live performances. Even the music doesn’t sound as though it’s changed, except to add autotune to the vocals. Perhaps Cyrus scores a minor point for original thought by adding teddy bears into the mix, but Madonna basically offered the same act with crucifixes in the 1980s. Cyndi Lauper offered a musical paean to masturbation with She Bop in 1984, which makes She Bop nine years older than Cyrus.

Pop culture is in a state of arrested adolescence, and has been for decades. At least Cyrus has the excuse of being somewhere close to her own adolescence. The number offers nothing so much as a clueless self-parody about the music industry’s lack of innovation and original thought, demonstrated by an absurdist representation of sexualized childhood that might have been insightful had it been done purposefully. The only original outrage is that people tune in to watch this dreck, and spend money on the same dance track from when I occasionally visited the clubs in my misspent youth.

I never thought I’d say this, but …. It’s a good thing that Congress comes back into session soon.

I’m not arguing that the bizarre spectacle isn’t worthy of sharp criticism, which it clearly is.  It’s just that MTV and the entertainment industries more generally have been selling reruns for the last three decades, and that this is just a barely-original recombination of elements that we see over and over again.  (Heck, for that matter, we can say that about Congress, too.) It’s only new and edgy to those who just emerged from puberty.  And this story is decades old.

The Boss Emeritus lays the blame for this particular train wreck at the feet of those most responsible in her column today:

First Britney. Then Lindsay. And now: Miley Cyrus. Do they ever learn?

By “they,” I don’t mean the girls. I mean their parents. Where are they? What the hell are they thinking?

I don’t know how many times I’ve asked those questions over the years as a parade of young Hollywood starlets has burst onto the scene with wholesome charm, achieved dizzying fame and fortune, and then crashed back to Earth half-naked with corrupted souls and drug-glazed eyes.

Are parents without scruples more likely to sacrifice their daughters to the wolves of the entertainment industry? Or does show business sap all the common sense out of mothers and fathers who should know better? Either way, they are guilty of child abandonment.

One might have thought that Billy Ray Cyrus would know better, as he had a lot more experience with the entertainment industry than most other parents would.  Michelle points back to the sexually-charged Vanity Fair photo shoot done when Miley was 15 years old, and for which the Cyruses later expressed some regret and embarrassment.  However, this is the trajectory on which the entertainment industry takes most young actors and singers, and for that matter their legions of adoring pre-adolescent fans.  They make money off of the exploitation of immature sexuality, which puts pressure on performers like Cyrus to go farther and farther to get noticed amid all of the noise.  Last Sunday’s twerk-a-thon is the inevitable result — or in this case, we hope that this is the end.

Perhaps young performers and their parents can watch the bizarre spectacle of this week and learn that lesson before the moneymakers suck the childhood out of their daughters and sons, and perhaps all parents can learn that lesson as well. Meanwhile, who’s ready for Congress to get back to work so we can have some real outrages to discuss?  Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?


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I never touched her, I swear.

jake49 on August 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Let’s rocket a DVD of this through space so advanced civilizations on distant planets can see how we chillax.

nico on August 27, 2013 at 3:49 PM

With a little note telling them they may fire when ready.

CurtZHP on August 27, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Dear God, can we please stop talking about this? Yes, it was stupid and offensive. It’s also about zero on the importance scale. Continuing to dwell on it is giving Cyrus exactly what she wants — attention.

AngusMc on August 27, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Many, if not most of the people that booed God and celebrated lust and baby killing at the Obama democratic convention, were todays modern version of “parents”

These things happen when we dump God and left leaning churches are busy chasing social justice goals at the expense of losing souls they dare not offend with God’s truth.

Don L on August 27, 2013 at 3:12 PM

And with Timothy Leary’s “tune in, turn on, drop out” we’ve had an explosion of special ed kids. Yeah. Let’s legalize drugs, libs. (And I mean both.)

davidk on August 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

I don’t get that either. It must mean something or perhaps just for shock value.

Well, maybe, but who is so behind that she still thinks sticking out your tongue is a good wy to shock? For the love of Pete, we got over sticking out our tongues to be obnoxious when we were 5, and that was 50 years ago!

Dirty Creature on August 27, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Miley Cyrus is every liberal parent’s dream child. She’s every thing they said they wanted their daughters to be.

Really, what is Miley Cyrus doing that has the likes of Mika Brzezinski and the Smith family up in arms? She is embracing her sexuality. She is embracing her proud, independent womanhood. She is not ashamed of her body, and knows that masturbation is healthy and natural. She knows that transgression is the new normal; that there are no marginalized persons, or acts; and that we should all accept, embrace, and assert our differences.

The same people who signed petitions in defense of Roman Polanski are now condemning Miley Cyrus because she touched herself with an oversize finger. Come on – Miley Cyrus is the Roman Polanski generation’s logical conclusion.

People are asking, “where are her parents?” Well, Mommy was right there in the audience, giving her beloved daughter a standing ovation after the performance. She was proud as a peacock. And why shouldn’t she be? Miley is everything a good daughter should be.

Mr. Arkadin on August 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

If her parents have a molecule of shame, there’s a gun in their mouths right now.

thejackal on August 27, 2013 at 4:09 PM

I think we put too much thought into most things like this. The biggest way the world has changed is through PPC and “traffic” earning someone, somewhere money.

Perez HIlton is loaded due to eyeballs clicking on a site, as are thousands of other folks and outlets. “Risque/vulgar/racey/dirty”, whatever is the name of the game.

I really don’t care, for it has little value to me and/or my family – in the same way a bum under a bridge smoking crack doesn’t.

There are crappy parents, kids, music, videos, etc, etc and there always has been. Norms and mores dictate what we allow and don’t allow. And most of it is forgotten due to the expiration date on just about everything. Elvis was a brilliant musician – and due to shaking his hips was considered “the devil” Yes, we have come a long way – but what about Iggy Pop cutting himself for shock value, Ozzy biting heads off bats – or the Tipper Gore fueled “rate everything” to protect everyone nonsense. There are hundreds, if not thousands of examples of “the end of society” things that didn’t materialize into the “end of society”

Move along, because this outrage won’t be close to the outrage of Obama bombing Assad, while supporting Al Qaeda – being it may be, you know – Al Qaeda who is launching chemical attacks.

Odie1941 on August 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM

If Obama had a white daughter she’d dance like Miley Cyrus.

Harbingeing on August 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM

I never thought I’d say this, but …. It’s a good thing that Congress comes back into session soon.

I’d take Mylie twerking ’til she broke a hip to keep this congress from reconvening. Has anybody come up with a plan to get a conservative house leader yet?

DanMan on August 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM

The entertainment industry has helped destroy way too many young girls, especially in the last 10 years.
Yet millions of parents are pushing little Susie to be the next big star.
Um, get a clue.

itsnotaboutme on August 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Many, if not most of the people that booed God and celebrated lust and baby killing at the Obama democratic convention, were todays modern version of “parents”

These things happen when we dump God and left leaning churches are busy chasing social justice goals at the expense of losing souls they dare not offend with God’s truth.

Don L on August 27, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Yes.

itsnotaboutme on August 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM

As I posited yesterday, it is Billy Ray Cyrus’ fault, in a way.

When I went to YouTube to check out the controversy, one of the search results was Miley singing the Dolly Parton classic “Jolene” in something called “The Backyard Sessions,” which appeared to be Cyrus and 4-5 musicians playing in a back yard. But it was evident from the very first note that the video wasn’t live recording, her voice and the accompaniment had all been digitally processed in a studio. I don’t know if it was Autotune or just the right level of reverb, but it was telling.

“Jolene” isn’t an easy song to sing, but no one forced Miley to try it, much less record it. Alison Krause can rock it, so it can be done. But that fake “backyard session” made one thing crystal clear: Miley Cyrus can’t really sing.

~~~~~`

Suddenly, it all became clear. Suppose you were 18, rich, on top of the world with adoring fans and away from home for the first time and discovered, to your utter horror, that it was all a lie. All that fame as Hannah Montana was just bubblegum music and digital mixing to cover a very mediocre voice. All that talent she thought she had never existed.

So, how to take her revenge on Daddy for this terrible deception? A few inappropriate piercings, a few erotic tatoos, dating the baddest bad boys she can find, and bumping and grinding like the lunch hour stripper at a biker bar off the pike – yeah, that should do the trick! How do you like me now, Daddy?

Makes sense once you think of it.

Adjoran on August 27, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Well, the ugly part comes from Billy Ray’s side of the family. But the no talent part comes from Billy Ray’s side of the family. The slutting part? Ewwwe. Just yuck!!!. —Regular Righty Guy …Full Caf Americano

Mornin Mojo on August 27, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Dear God, can we please stop talking about this? Yes, it was stupid and offensive. It’s also about zero on the importance scale. Continuing to dwell on it is giving Cyrus exactly what she wants — attention.

You are a naive fool if you think that cultural rot is unimportant. It is ALL IMPORTANT. This country will never solve its deepening fiscal mess when peopled with citizens who are living lives of intellectual and behavioral gutter dwellers. Self-restraint, duty, moral rectitude–these things are not put on and taken off at the closet door. Making wealthy entertainers who purvey filth is our fault collectively. Until we can summon the good sense to starve the entertainment media of the cash with which they destroy the culture, we will deserve every last calamity that befalls us.

Wake up.

PD Quig on August 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM

First Britney. Then Lindsay. And now: Miley Cyrus. Do they ever learn?

Oh, there’s a lot more than these.
Since she is from the Philippines, my Filipina wife & I were interested in the compelling story of Charice Pempengco.
Now openly lesbian, it’s easy to see how she became corrupted: It was Ellen Degeneres who introduced Charice to us.
Of course it didn’t help that Charice’s dad was abusive & her mom is, as she says, a “former lesbian.” But while Charice needed therapy a lot more than stardom, Ellen & others instead pushed her toward stardom & lesbianism.

itsnotaboutme on August 27, 2013 at 4:37 PM

So Miley Cyrus goes on national television to do the bump & grind, rub a foam finger on her crotch, of which there’s not much left to the imagination down there, and lets her tongue go all “Gene Simmons”…but it’s those dang gays that are causing the decline of Western civilization.

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM

So Miley Cyrus goes on national television to do the bump & grind, rub a foam finger on her crotch, of which there’s not much left to the imagination down there, and lets her tongue go all “Gene Simmons”…but it’s those dang gays that are causing the decline of Western civilization.

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Proving that not everything is gay (in any interpretation of the word).

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2013 at 4:45 PM

First Britney. Then Lindsay. And now: Miley Cyrus. Do they ever learn?

Oh, there’s a lot more than these.
Since she is from the Philippines, my Filipina wife & I were interested in the compelling story of Charice Pempengco.
Now openly lesbian, it’s easy to see how she became corrupted: It was Ellen Degeneres who introduced Charice to us.
Of course it didn’t help that Charice’s dad was abusive & her mom is, as she says, a “former lesbian.” But while Charice needed therapy a lot more than stardom, Ellen & others instead pushed her toward stardom & lesbianism.

itsnotaboutme on August 27, 2013 at 4:37 PM

So Miley Cyrus goes on national television to do the bump & grind, rub a foam finger on her crotch, of which there’s not much left to the imagination down there, and lets her tongue go all “Gene Simmons”…but it’s those dang gays that are causing the decline of Western civilization.

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM

You’re normally quite rational, my friend, but when the topic of homosexuality comes up, you go batty.

I was merely giving one example of Hollywood’s corrupting influence.
I specifically mentioned that there is a long list of sad stories. Most of them have nothing to do with homosexuality.
I only mentioned Charice because of her place of birth & our subsequent interest in her story.

So it’s a lot more than “dang gays that are causing the decline of Western civilization.” But homosexuality does have a part to play therein.

itsnotaboutme on August 27, 2013 at 4:57 PM

This piece of fluffy crap, presently with less than 120 comments, is promoted to “Top Picks”

Meanwhile, this post, Should conservatives resist the race tu quoque?, at 237 comments and counting, is about to fall off the front page into the archives.

Why?

It’s a simple question, and I dare the site hosts to answer it. I double-dog dare them.

I have come expect better from the Hot Air crew. I really do. But there does seem to be a PC virus taking hold here. Very disappointing.

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 5:04 PM

No talent…no problem….spread your legs…Works every time.

repvoter on August 27, 2013 at 5:04 PM

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Well, it wasn’t the Folsom Street Fair. Maybe MTV will do a live show from that one next.

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 5:07 PM

dont blame her father, she’s 20yo, she made her own decision to do this. and billy ray apparently has some regrets about things.

hindsight is 20/20

chasdal on August 27, 2013 at 5:09 PM

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 5:04 P

Agreed.

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 5:10 PM

I think we all know who’s to blame …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3zvnRFE6uM

Pork-Chop on August 27, 2013 at 5:11 PM

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Hi Jackie. Your support is always appreciated.

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM

If Ed is disturbed by these reports, why not do some investigation and get to the bottom of it?

Ignoring the realities is not going to help. Very, very disappointing.

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Again, agreed.

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM

From the beginning, the only word I’ve had for this case was “sad.”

factsonlypls on August 27, 2013 at 5:14 PM

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Good afternoon, Nova. :) I’m glad to add my 2 cents worth on this issue. You’ve stated it very well, indeed. The desire to avoid this issue by HA management is very disappointing and troubling.

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 5:15 PM

The author is right that the incident is basically boring. I don’t give a crap about this, except as someone on twitter said, she’s on track to wind up dead in a hotel room, in a pool of semen and covered with needles. And I still won’t care much, but it’s a shame when that happens to young people.

juliesa on August 27, 2013 at 5:21 PM

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 5:13 PM

There is a culture war going on. We are fighting for the heart and soul of our country. I’m not suggesting we fight the liberals’ lies with lies, I’m suggesting we fight their lies with truth, with reality, and ruthlessly. Because our enemies are ruthless and unconstrained by any scruples, and if we don’t utterly destroy their sick lies and false narratives every chance we get, without regard to whose little feelings get hurt, we will lose.

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 5:22 PM

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 5:04 P

Agreed.

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 5:10 PM

The camps await you…but you’ll be in good company.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Anticipating a feisty J. reply :)

…as I like it!

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2013 at 5:25 PM

The things I would do to her ***hole.

I’m a libertarian conservative, btw.

discojoe on August 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM

The things I would do to her ***hole.

discojoe on August 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Talk to it, play music, what?

arnold ziffel on August 27, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Talk to it, play music, what?

arnold ziffel on August 27, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Play music…

>_>

discojoe on August 27, 2013 at 5:50 PM

I bet Adele is happy she doesn’t have the kind of body one wants to put in skimpy outfits. That way, folks are forced to listen to her music. Adele has more talent in her little finger than Miley has twerk.

Sekhmet on August 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Replace Adele with Susan Boyle and I agree 1000%

cableguy615 on August 27, 2013 at 5:53 PM

The things I would do to her ***hole.

I’m a liberaltarian conservative, btw.

discojoe on August 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM

fify

cableguy615 on August 27, 2013 at 5:54 PM

The things I would do to her ***hole.

I’m a liberaltarian conservative, btw.

discojoe on August 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM

fify

Technically, I’m an anarcho capitalist, so you’ve kind of got a point.

discojoe on August 27, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2013 at 5:25 PM

LOL! Good afternoon, Schadenfreude. :)

I can’t be re-educated. I’m incorrigible. :)

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Who’s to blame for Miley Cyrus and the VMAs?

Anyone who watches. Next.

a5minmajor on August 27, 2013 at 6:12 PM

So Miley Cyrus goes on national television to do the bump & grind, rub a foam finger on her crotch, of which there’s not much left to the imagination down there, and lets her tongue go all “Gene Simmons”…but it’s those dang gays that are causing the decline of Western civilization.

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Miley only overshadowed the “gay crowd” by a small foam finger. Gaga and her “born that way”"same love” crew were there in force even with her fake nun habit.. So yeah, the ghey is also contributing to culture rot..

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 6:16 PM

So Miley Cyrus goes on national television to do the bump & grind, rub a foam finger on her crotch, of which there’s not much left to the imagination down there, and lets her tongue go all “Gene Simmons”…but it’s those dang gays that are causing the decline of Western civilization.

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM
Miley only overshadowed the “gay crowd” by a small foam finger. Gaga and her “born that way””same love” crew were there in force even with her fake nun habit.. So yeah, the ghey is also contributing to culture rot..

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Btw, the difference is that people know that Miley is destructive on a path of destruction. Gaga and Macklemore are “put on a pedastal” for their social consciousness.

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 6:18 PM

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Again, very well said, Nova.

“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” ~Edmund Burke

I take this to mean that we must, together, fight for the truth and the right for the truth to be revealed and heard… else we fall singly, engaged in battle for the truth that was the duty of us all.

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Miley only overshadowed the “gay crowd” by a small foam finger. Gaga and her “born that way””same love” crew were there in force even with her fake nun habit.. So yeah, the ghey is also contributing to culture rot..

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 6:16 PM

First off, Gaga isn’t gay. Second, she didn’t sing “Born that way”. Third, Macklemore isn’t gay, did “Same love”.

Finally…wth does any of that have to do with Cyrus and her creepy performance?

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 6:28 PM

First off, Gaga isn’t gay. Second, she didn’t sing “Born that way”. Third, Macklemore isn’t gay, did “Same love”.

Finally…wth does any of that have to do with Cyrus and her creepy performance?

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Without Gaga’s gay cred, she would just be a Madonna wannabe. Mackelmore would be just another eminem wannabee except for “same love.” Both have been honored for their “social consciousness.”

And if you didn’t see Gaga’s performance, it quite contributed to the cultural rot that was the VMA’s…

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 6:38 PM

In other news, Saudi Arabia all but admits that Chechen terror groups are on its payroll. Chechens terrorists. You know, like Tamerlane and Dzhokar Tsarnaev.

The details of the talks were first leaked to the Russian press. A more detailed version has since appeared in the Lebanese newspaper As-Safir, which has Hezbollah links and is hostile to the Saudis.

As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” he allegedly said.

Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. “These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future…”

…The Putin-Bandar meeting was stormy, replete with warnings of a “dramatic turn” in Syria. Mr Putin was unmoved by the Saudi offer, though western pressure has escalated since then. “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters,” he said, referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier.

This won’t end well.

Mike Honcho on August 27, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Btw, the difference is that people know that Miley is destructive on a path of destruction. Gaga and Macklemore are “put on a pedastal” for their social consciousness.

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 6:18 PM

That’s pretty weak.

Put on a pedestal? By whom? When Gaga’s “Born this way” came out, she had quite a bit of gays claiming only did a “gay” song to appeal to a wider market. And Macklemore’s “Same love”…have you heard it? Yeah, wouldn’t want to push the notion that two men or two women couldn’t possible love each other, or that gays can’t love their children. That’s just more propaganda, right?

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 6:42 PM

That’s pretty weak.

Put on a pedestal? By whom? When Gaga’s “Born this way” came out, she had quite a bit of gays claiming only did a “gay” song to appeal to a wider market

Those gays were probably correct. I just love how you think that gheys have nothing to do with the cultural rot. When gay themes run through the VMA’s and the culture like gays consist of 50 percent of the population.

And Macklemore’s “Same love”…have you heard it? Yeah, wouldn’t want to push the notion that two men or two women couldn’t possible love each other, or that gays can’t love their children. That’s just more propaganda, right?

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Have YOU heard Macklemore’s same love? It is another pigeonhole conservative bashing song, but that fits into your view of the world, so what am I saying..

The right-wing conservatives think it’s a decision
And you can be cured with some treatment and religion

Read more: Macklemore – Same Love Lyrics | MetroLyrics

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 6:47 PM

There is no way that this is legitimately shocking to anyone anymore. This is media hype trumped ip to increase hits on web sites and get eyes on web pages and advertising.

Rap and hip hop bump and grinders have been around for a long time now and kids are exposed to nudity and graühic sexuality on social media and chat groups. Sexuality in rap tunes and metal are graphis and very obscene not to mention beheadings and dismemberments flood the internet site like Liveleak for all to see.

This Cyrus outrage is way too forced.

rickyricardo on August 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM

I take no pleasure in conflict. But I realize that evil exists and if it is not fought it will prevail. We can’t shirk, we must do what we can. I can’t do much but speak out, so that is what I try to do.

By the way, I’m only part way through the comments on the Should conservatives resist the race tu quoque? post, and I understand perfectly why it wasn’t promoted. Ed is taking drubbing in the comments.

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 7:06 PM

This Cyrus outrage is way too forced.

rickyricardo on August 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Some of us weren’t outraged. Most of us just want to know who the heck is advising Miley Cyrus that these are career boosting moves? Yeah a bunch of people talked about her, but most were laughing at her the next day watching the next Lindsay Lohan self-destruct.

The VMA’s showed the disconnect from those of us that live in the real world with the insulated world of the music industry and Hollywood. The fact that some agent or some producer thought that those were smart career moves is flabbergasting to those that had children that grew up loving Hannah Montana. We all get it, Miley is no longer Montana. The only thing she is now is desperate.

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Ooops. Should be, “Ed is taking a drubbing in the comments.”

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 7:06 PM

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 7:08 PM

What are the VMA’s, anyway?

talkingpoints on August 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM

What are the VMA’s, anyway?

talkingpoints on August 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM

They used to be the Video Music Awards, but I am still unclear why MTV still hosts them. MTV stopped playing videos years ago.

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 7:17 PM

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Indeed, and, I think, justly so.

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 7:21 PM

I just love how you think that gheys have nothing to do with the cultural rot.

Where did I say that?? Please copy & paste it so I can see it.

Have YOU heard Macklemore’s same love? It is another pigeonhole conservative bashing song, but that fits into your view of the world, so what am I saying..

The right-wing conservatives think it’s a decision
And you can be cured with some treatment and religion

I have heard it. And those two lines you quoted from the song are the only negative one’s…I don’t particularly like it, but you’re doing the exact same thing as Macklemore…stereotyping an entire group of people.

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I have heard it. And those two lines you quoted from the song are the only negative one’s…I don’t particularly like it, but you’re doing the exact same thing as Macklemore…stereotyping an entire group of people.

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I think Macklemore is a straight guy who decided to take advantage of the “social issue” dujour to make money. Muah more power to him, but I also think the song is crap, and not because of its theme.

I didn’t stereotype a bunch of people. I tend to seperate the “ghey” from gay people in my mind. If you have watched MTV lately, there is as many degenerate gay people on that channel as there is straight. The point I should have made to you was it really isn’t gay vs. straight. It is gay/straight real life vs. gay/straight Hollywood. I don’t generally associate the Gaga/Mackelmore crowd with my cousin and regular joe and jane gay. That being said, there is a whole crowd of GAY and straight hollyweird idiots who are contributing the cultural rot.

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Indeed, and, I think, justly so.

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Very justly so. I’ve been reading Ed’s stuff for years, I like and admire his work, but that has to be among his low points. He’s raising a straw man (there is no tu quoque involved) and rationalizing the refusal to engage and the failure to report the facts and deal with the realities. Just dead wrong. And Pollak, frankly, is no Breitbart.

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 7:32 PM

So it’s one thing to be shocking. It’s another to be clumsy and crass about it. There wasn’t even anything artistic to it.
And that’s not even going into the pedophilic image she was projecting of a vulgarly sexualized toddler surrounded by teddy bears.

Count to 10 on August 27, 2013 at 8:07 PM

I think Macklemore is a straight guy who decided to take advantage of the “social issue” dujour to make money. Muah more power to him, but I also think the song is crap, and not because of its theme.

I didn’t stereotype a bunch of people. I tend to seperate the “ghey” from gay people in my mind. If you have watched MTV lately, there is as many degenerate gay people on that channel as there is straight. The point I should have made to you was it really isn’t gay vs. straight. It is gay/straight real life vs. gay/straight Hollywood. I don’t generally associate the Gaga/Mackelmore crowd with my cousin and regular joe and jane gay. That being said, there is a whole crowd of GAY and straight hollyweird idiots who are contributing the cultural rot.

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Macklemore’s claim to fame is that he’s been really successful without signing to a major record company. He did it through YouTube. And yes, he’s straight. As far as I know :/

And your exact words: I just love how you think that gheys have nothing to do with the cultural rot. No only did I not say that, you don’t seem to be separating anyone out. Just sayin’.

More words: If you have watched MTV lately, there is as many degenerate gay people on that channel as there is straight. The point I should have made to you was it really isn’t gay vs. straight. But that’s just it…when a straight knucklehead does something crazy, you don’t bring up their heterosexuality…but when a gay person does something crazy, all of a sudden their homosexuality is what’s brought up first. I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy there.

You’re absolutely right…idiots and morons come from all walks of life. We wouldn’t bring up an idiot’s “straight lifestyle” so why all the attention paid to a moron’s homosexuality when he/she is gay? Again, just sayin’.

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 8:10 PM

I can’t be re-educated. I’m incorrigible. :)

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 6:10 PM

You’ll be in good company; nova too :)

Just dead wrong. And Pollak, frankly, is no Breitbart.

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Breitbart doesn’t approve of either of them, on that topic. He had a set.

Schadenfreude on August 27, 2013 at 8:12 PM

And that’s not even going into the pedophilic image she was projecting of a vulgarly sexualized toddler surrounded by teddy bears.

Count to 10 on August 27, 2013 at 8:07 PM

I am sooo glad I’m not the only one who noticed this was nothing more than some pedophiles wet dream! Molly just hit her marks and executed it exactly as choreographed by the pedophiles at Viacom , well done.

Pole-Cat on August 27, 2013 at 8:26 PM

novaculus on August 27, 2013 at 7:32 PM

People change, their perspectives change, their interests change. I’m not going to speculate regarding what may have produced the changes we’ve noted, but that they exist has been amply demonstrated.

Frankly, I was very surprised. However, each of us must make our own decisions regarding how committed we are to the truth, and how dedicated we are to the unflinching pursuit of truth, even when it may prove controversial or painful.

thatsafactjack on August 27, 2013 at 8:27 PM

But that’s just it…when a straight knucklehead does something crazy, you don’t bring up their heterosexuality…but when a gay person does something crazy, all of a sudden their homosexuality is what’s brought up first. I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy there.

You’re absolutely right…idiots and morons come from all walks of life. We wouldn’t bring up an idiot’s “straight lifestyle” so why all the attention paid to a moron’s homosexuality when he/she is gay? Again, just sayin’.

JetBoy on August 27, 2013 at 8:10 PM

That is true for anyone who has a “trait” which can be exploited. C’mon, Oprah= fat etc. Anytime someone who has made a big deal out of their sexuality messes up; of course that is going to be brought up. Human nature.. And I disagree that Miley’s “sexuality’ is not an issue. The whole fiasco has to do with her sexuality and the fact that she doesn’t want to be treated like an innocent little girl. In fact, twitter blew up with Miley apologists saying we were slut shaming her. And the fact that she was grinding on a married man was also brought up. Frankly, she is a horrible influence to anyone who has a growing daughter. Most of us know to treat her as a caution sign for our daughters.

melle1228 on August 27, 2013 at 8:34 PM

I guess one of the reasons that the Miley Cyrus fiasco has caught the attention of so many is because everyday we are reminded of the fundamental change that has overtaken America. This fundamental change has deteriorated and infiltrated every single aspect of our culture.

mobydutch on August 27, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Well, maybe, but who is so behind that she still thinks sticking out your tongue is a good wy to shock? For the love of Pete, we got over sticking out our tongues to be obnoxious when we were 5, and that was 50 years ago!

Dirty Creature on August 27, 2013 at 3:57 PM

The way she carried on, I thought she did a pretty good dog impression. :) She’d be embarrassed if she had any self-awareness.

Her daddy was a poor excuse for a father, which was obvious even if you didn’t know he was a complete wimp who admitted that he left the discipline of Miley to her mother…

Anti-Control on August 27, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Who’s to blame for Miley Cyrus and the VMAs?

That’s an easy one – F#*%ING LEFTIST!

“I can’t change, even if I wanted too…” IS BRAIN WASHING PROPOGANDA! You can change but it’s up to you. It’s called INDIVUAL FREE WILL. You can even give THAT up, if you don’t mind being a SLAVE that is. When that song finished on the radio, I told the kids (a captured audience on a road trip ha-ha) “It’s not important WHAT you love, it’s important WHO you love, it’s up to you, you are free to choose.” I explained to them that, that song was nothing more than F#*%ING LEFTIST PROPOGANDA. “You don’t want to be a slave to F#*%ING LEFTIST do you?”

I’m not anti-gay, I’m ANTI-LEFTIST.
I’m not racist, I’m ANTI-LEFTIST.
I haven’t declared war on women, I’VE DECLARED WAR ON F#*%ING LEFTIST!
They’ve all been enslaved by F#*%ING LEFTIST, and they have no one to blame but themselves, so stop blaming me you F#*%ING LEFTIST.

Pole-Cat on August 27, 2013 at 9:05 PM

I am sooo glad I’m not the only one who noticed this was nothing more than some pedophiles wet dream! Molly just hit her marks and executed it exactly as choreographed by the pedophiles at Viacom , well done.

Pole-Cat on August 27, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Hey, pedophilia is the new gay marriage. There are barristers in the UK demanding that the age of consent be lowered to 13. And of course the guys at Slate are way ahead of the curve on this:
The Mind-Booty Problem: Rethinking the age of sexual consent, by William Saletan

The Leftists know how to play long ball…remember when they had Newt’s sister “officiate” a lesbian wedding on Friends? That was way back in 1996, but still less than 20 years ago.

Just give ‘em time. Cultural erosion doesn’t happen overnight.

JimLennon on August 27, 2013 at 9:27 PM

I really don’t understand all the air time this is getting. So MTV decided to show a stripper giving a guy a lap dance… they’re cable, not broadcast.

malclave on August 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Miley Cyrus earned more money this year than you or I will ever see in our lifetimes.

myiq2xu on August 27, 2013 at 1:32 PM

What kind of comedic intent is behind this: intentional, or un-?

Anti-Control on August 27, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Ha-Ha-Ha! I can see the Photoshopped pics of Miley and her tongue.

rickv404 on August 27, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Anybody who got within a 100 meters of this piece of trash should report immediately for an HIV RNA Early Detection Test.

MaiDee on August 27, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Ha-Ha-Ha! I can see the Photoshopped pics of Miley and her tongue.

rickv404 on August 27, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Here’s a starter for you:

https://twitter.com/TheMorningSpew/status/372206229637955584/photo/1

Anti-Control on August 27, 2013 at 9:46 PM

they poured out innocent blood,
the blood of their sons and daughters,
whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan;
and the land was polluted with blood.

Psalms 106:38

A lot of parents like to live vicariously through their sons and daughters.

Cleombrotus on August 27, 2013 at 9:53 PM

I am outraged that the video was not as outrageous as advertised.

The whole performance was TEH SUCK.

EOM

connertown on August 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Assad is to blame.

Spawn of another Cyrus.

profitsbeard on August 28, 2013 at 1:59 AM

son of the herdsman of Astyages

Kenosha Kid on August 28, 2013 at 2:05 AM

Pathetic worthless trash.

She looks hideous. He acts hideously.

Sick of seeing this trash.

bluegill on August 28, 2013 at 5:13 AM

The things I would do to her ***hole.

discojoe on August 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Sounds like you and Miley the Dog Girl are a perfect (gross) match :)

Anti-Control on August 28, 2013 at 7:45 AM

I didn’t see it … just some later pictures of a few interesting poses. One thing for sure, more people support/ed it than didn’t. I didn’t hear any music to it either (i.e. made choices to not watch or listen to), but I thought she made a good career move by overshadowing Gaga (?sp).

No one to “blame” here; however, I am sure the Abrahamic Religions will complain, but the Communists probably won’t…on this one, but they were loud on the rodeo clown (which I also thought was fine).

BTW, she has a GREAT tongue, huh!

Karmi on August 28, 2013 at 8:25 AM

What’s the big? Diane Sawyer, Tom Brokaw, Chris Matthews all act like this for their master everyday. You don’t think Brokaw wouldn’t jump up and twerk Barry for a patty pat?
Okay now Miley the Dog Girl’s not so gross is she? She’s just a msm journolist wannabe.

onomo on August 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

It isn’t easy keeping up with the Kardashians.

or

Hey look at me, I haven’t been in the news lately.

or

Another life destroyed by the Disney machine.

esblowfeld on August 28, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Entertainment industry is controlled by the left. They are the ones who exploit children and women.

What might help, if it could ever see the light of a TV would be wholesome, family shows instead of the garbage we subject our population to. We unplugged the tv 7-8 years ago – smartest thing we ever did.

Maybe a few more million should do so. When GOOD stuff comes back, we’ll return. Not before.

MN J on August 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM

1. Bad body;
2. Advertising a big tongue—-big deal;
3. Advertising what sexual positions she likes—-again big deal;
4. Advertising she believes in satanism by the horns for a hairdo;
6. Mimicking the coarsest and most thuggish culture to develop in this country within the past 30 or so years.

rlwo2008 on August 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM

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