Colin Powell manages to miss again

posted at 8:41 am on August 26, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Some of us (and I say “us” for obvious reasons) will be disappointed. Many others of you won’t be surprised in the least. But no matter which way you spin it, Colin Powell took another turn around the weekend cable shows and continued his long tradition of making sure he disappoints somebody whenever they trot him out. Of course, this is probably why the media loves to have him on. First up, he’s just not so crazy about any voter ID laws, you know?

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell on Sunday predicted that Republican attempts to pass voter ID laws would “backfire” by energizing minorities to vote them out of office.

Powell took aim at efforts on the state legislature level to require that people show photo identification to vote.

“These kinds of procedures that are being put in place to slow the process down and make it likely that fewer Hispanics and African Americans might vote I think are going to backfire, because these people are going to come out and do what they have to to vote, and I encourage that,” Powell said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

If that wasn’t enough, rather than just sticking pins in ballot integrity, he seemed to feel that he needed a little icing on the cake, so we have this gem.

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell called the jury verdict that cleared the killer of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin “questionable” and urged President Barack Obama to speak more on issues of race during an interview that aired Sunday…

Asked about the Martin killing, Powell questioned its impact on the civil rights discourse. A Florida jury found George Zimmerman acted in self-defense and acquitted him during a criminal trial.

“I think that it will be seen as a questionable judgment on the part of the judicial system down there, but I don’t know if it will have staying power,” Powell said. “These cases come along and they blaze across the midnight sky and then after a period of time, they’re forgotten.”

That doesn’t mean Obama should keep silent, though, Powell said.

Powell is a moderate, so I don’t expect him to please the entire base on every single issue. (And he does still get a lot of things right on defense and taxes, just for two examples.) But he could put in a bit more of an effort to buck up the team a little. We’re not even that close to an election, and I don’t think he’s got a new book coming out… why go on tour now? Or if he does, why not stick to topics like Syria and Egypt? He had some worthwhile things to add on that front.

I don’t have much else to add. Just a little something to start off your Monday morning.


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I take Powell’s voting comment and Zimmerman comment together as an attempt to continue what’s been the Obama energizing of the black vote, which Hillary is also trying to do by pushing the voting issue. Cynical, race-baiting, divisive, dangerous, evil political ploys.

/did I mention evil

Paul-Cincy on August 26, 2013 at 10:20 AM

hes pissed he didn’t get the 5th star that the clintons tried to give him, the one they wanted to give him based solely on his skin color.
arrogant racist in germany in the 80′s, arrogant racist now.

dmacleo on August 26, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Which team?

No one who voted for and endorsed Comrade O in both 2008 and 2012 can legitimately call themselves a Republican.

Powell can call himself whatever he likes, but no one is required to believe him or take his claim seriously.

farsighted on August 26, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Powell got his ideal Republican candidate (by his own previous descriptions of what he wanted in same) in 2008 and threw him over for a 1/2 term senator with ABSOLUTELY NO LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE, then supported the latter 4 years later after that said individual’s repeated leadership failures. That tells you all you meed to know about him and his motives.

ebrown2 on August 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

what do you expect from an affirmative action general?

Tom Servo on August 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

You guys are right. A black man can’t possibly disagree with you unless he is traitorous, race-obsessed, media whore lackey. No honest differences of opinion allowed from somebody who served their country in uniform and high office for more than 30 years.

urban elitist on August 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM

bet you never served under his commands like some of us had.

dmacleo on August 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Finally, if you read anything about his military career and background, he is hardly an honest or honorable man. My understanding from people who served with him is that he was an ass-kissing, back-stabbing, climbing, self-aggrandizing officer who was never liked or respected by his men or his colleagues.

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 9:46 AM

a lot of his direct reports in germany liked him, possibly due to them benefiting from their closeness to him, but drop one or two in the chain of command and the real stories start to show through.

dmacleo on August 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM

bet you never served under his commands like some of us had.
dmacleo on August 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM

According to some vets, he was an ass-kisser going back to his LT days in Nam.

AH_C on August 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM

He’s an arrogant man. I’m sure he was once a fine military man. Now? Arrogant and bitter. Oh, yeah… an adulterer as well.

Sugar Land on August 26, 2013 at 8:54 AM

He’s an adulterer? Why get personal? You’re buckling to the same personal jabs a left-wing liberal would spit out because they cannot focus on any radical issues in Powell’s professional career worthy of argument.

timberline on August 26, 2013 at 10:30 AM

ebrown2 on August 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Excatly.

Powell tossed aside two very moderate GOP Presidential candidates and decided to endorse and vote for the most overtly socialist Dem candidate in history, twice.

Regardless of what he calls himself, he is not a Republican.

I can only imagine what his ideal “Republican” candidate would be like.

farsighted on August 26, 2013 at 10:30 AM

I don’t care if he disagrees with me. What bothers me is that he disagrees with Colin Powell circa 1996 when he was being floated about as potential GOP Presidential candidate. He used to a fiscal conservative for the most part. But to justify his support for Obama and deny it’s solely based on race, he’s now out there claiming a majority of Americans want big government and singing the praises of the progressive agenda.

Doughboy on August 26, 2013 at 9:14 AM

I liked the Colin Powell who said when other people were racist towards him, that wasn’t his problem, that was THEIR problem. Obama is as far left a President as we’ve had, and Powell supports him the second time around. Republicans for Obama … what’s next, blacks for David Duke?

Paul-Cincy on August 26, 2013 at 10:30 AM

How about this. Colin Powell can do what he wants. He doesn’t need, nor solicit approval from conservative bloggers who haven’t accomplished the slightest smoothest slice of what he has. Be mad.

libfreeordie on August 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Let’s review his accomplishments ………..

Powell served a White House fellowship, a highly selective and prestigious position, under President Richard Nixon from 1972 to 1973.

Powell became senior military assistant to Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger.

Powell became, at the age of 49, Ronald Reagan’s National Security Advisor.

Powell was promoted to a full general under President George H. W. Bush.

Powell was appointed the 12th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff by President George W. Bush, the highest military position in the Department of Defense.

Powell rose to the top on the backs of conservative republicans. Maybe he could show a little respect for them instead of performing like a circus clown on the very networks who spent all of their time criticizing the very people who were responsible for his rise to prominence.

fogw on August 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

He’s gone full Black Racist now.

WannabeAnglican on August 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM

He’s gone full Black Racist now.

WannabeAnglican on August 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Well, surprise, surprise, surprise!

HiJack on August 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Rush Limbaugh on Powell when Bush was president:
“Don’t be fooled by this guy, folks.”

TimBuk3 on August 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM

How about this. Colin Powell can do what he wants. He doesn’t need, nor solicit approval from conservative bloggers who haven’t accomplished the slightest smoothest slice of what he has. Be mad.

libfreeordie on August 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Again with the appeal to authority. Collin Powell did “X”, therefore his opinion on “Y” can’t be questioned or debated or called into question?

Is it your position that nobody can question any opinion Powell has? That all – left and right – must simply follow whatever wisdom falls from his lips? Is that true when he supports low taxes? if not, why not?

If so, why him? Why not others who have had similar careers? McCain has significant military and federal gov’t experience (of which Obama had neither when he ran against McCain). Why then did you not vote for McCain?

I’m sure we can find many other politically conservative military leaders with great resumes who would disagree with Powell on many issues. Do they also have absolute moral authority such that their opinions cannot be disputed? If that is the case, and we have 2 paragons of absolute moral authority spouting diametrically opposed opinions, what do we then do?

And, what in Powell’s career leads you to believe that he has any understanding or knowledge of the law to support is Trayvon opinion? Does a military background make one a solid legal analyst as well?

Or, is your nonsense must more of the typical liberal “argument” wherein you say something inane and snarky in the hopes that it comes off as clever or insightful?

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM

How about this. Colin Powell can do what he wants. He doesn’t need, nor solicit approval from conservative bloggers who haven’t accomplished the slightest smoothest slice of what he has. Be mad.

libfreeordie on August 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Again with the appeal to authority. Collin Powell did “X”, therefore his opinion on “Y” can’t be questioned or debated or called into question?

Is it your position that nobody can question any opinion Powell has? That all – left and right – must simply follow whatever wisdom falls from his lips? Is that true when he supports low taxes? if not, why not?

If so, why him? Why not others who have had similar careers? McCain has significant military and federal gov’t experience (of which Obama had neither when he ran against McCain). Why then did you not vote for McCain?

I’m sure we can find many other politically conservative military leaders with great resumes who would disagree with Powell on many issues. Do they also have absolute moral authority such that their opinions cannot be disputed? If that is the case, and we have 2 paragons of absolute moral authority spouting diametrically opposed opinions, what do we then do?

And, what in Powell’s career leads you to believe that he has any understanding or knowledge of the law to support is Trayvon opinion? Does a military background make one a solid legal analyst as well?

Or, is your nonsense must more of the typical liberal “argument” wherein you say something inane and snarky in the hopes that it comes off as clever or insightful?

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM

This is especially hypocritical of slavenowandie given the left’s reaction to Powell as SOS.

ebrown2 on August 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM

No honest differences of opinion allowed from somebody who served their country in uniform and high office for more than 30 years.

urban elitist on August 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM

General Be-Tray-Us, anyone?

Resist We Much on August 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Powell rose to the top on the backs of conservative republicans. Maybe he could show a little respect for them instead of performing like a circus clown on the very networks who spent all of their time criticizing the very people who were responsible for his rise to prominence.

fogw on August 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Powell would have never gotten those appointments if before 1972 he was talking as he is now and had openly supported and endorsed Humphrey and McCarthy for President in 1968 and 1972.

He either held his tongue while in the military or he spent a lot of time sucking up to Republican politicians and civilians.

Military leaders and Republican politicians were looking for blacks who were not overtly hostile to Republicans to appoint and promote throughout Powell’s tenure in the military. Powell successfully played the game.

But we know now what he must have really thought all along.

farsighted on August 26, 2013 at 10:56 AM

I still say the Obama administration has a lot more on Colon Powell that he doesn’t want to be broadcast over the entire world. Normally he would stay out of this because it makes him look like he’s lost his mind. This whole voting ID thing is more than ridiculous. There is no racism in requiring that you show a photo ID when voting and most especially that you are a citizen of the US. Democrats love to participate in voter fraud and are getting quite good at it. It’s time Colon Powell went over to the dark side permanently so he doesn’t taint the Republicans anymore. It’s all part of ‘we are all racists now’ meme. I’m done with it and I’m done with Colon Powell. Time to move on and fight for the country.

BetseyRoss on August 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Powell rose to the top on the backs of conservative republicans. Maybe he could show a little respect for them instead of performing like a circus clown on the very networks who spent all of their time criticizing the very people who were responsible for his rise to prominence.

fogw on August 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Race trumps all, including truth, facts, good sense and loyalty.

rplat on August 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Colin Powell: Voting restrictions ‘are going to backfire’ on Republicans

Doubtful.

A Few Polls:

1. Almost three-quarters of all Americans support the idea that people should have to show photo identification to vote, even though they are nearly as concerned about voter suppression as they are about fraud in presidential elections, according to a new Washington Post poll.

2. 75% of likely U.S. voters ‘believe voters should be required to show photo identification, such as a driver’s licence, before being allowed to vote.’

3. While 44% of Americans perceive partisan politics at play in the support of such laws, far more, 57%, see a genuine interest in fair elections as a big motivator, per WaPo poll.

4. 83% of those polled believe laws requiring voters to ‘show identification in order to vote’ is a ‘good thing, per McClatchy.’ (Only 13% see it as a ‘bad thing.’)

5. 72% of Democrats see voter ID as a ‘good thing.’

6. 65% of those who see themselves as ‘very liberal’ favour voter ID laws.

7. 71% percent of Latinos say they support photo ID laws for voters, just 6 percentage points less than the general population’s 77 percent saying this, the poll found.

8. Two-thirds of Republicans see voter fraud as a bigger problem; nearly as many Democrats are primarily concerned with denying eligible voters access to the ballot box. per WaPo poll.

Q in Marist, June 2013, poll:

‘Do you think it is a good thing or a bad thing if election laws were changed to require voters to show identification in order to vote?’

Of those polled:

National adults: 83%
National Registered Voters: 84%

VOTER REGISTRATION:

Democrats: 72%
Republicans: 99%
Independent: 87%

POLITICAL IDEOLOGY:

Very liberal-Liberal 65%
Moderate: 86%
Conservative- very conservative: 94%

REGION:

Northeast: 81%
Midwest: 84%
South: 88%
West: 74%

HOUSEHOLD INCOME:

Less than $50,000: 84%
$50,000 or more: 82%

EDUCATION:

Not a college graduate: 85%
College graduate: 91%

RACE:

White: 82%
Non-white: 83%

AGE:

18-29: 77%
30-44: 79%
45-59: 93%
60 or older: 81%
Under 45: 78%
45 or Older: 87%

GENDER:

Men: 82%
Women: 83%

Politico Poll: 70% back voter ID laws

PEW Hispanic Centre: Voter ID: 71 Percent of Latino Voters Support Legislation Poll Says

Once Again, The Extreme Left Is Way Out Of The Mainstream. Voter ID Laws Are Very Popular:..Even Jimmy Carter Supports Them

Resist We Much on August 26, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell called the jury verdict that cleared the killer of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin “questionable”

Powell, the “Republican”, is playing his role for Team O.

Powell’s is helping to aid and abet the left-wing Orwellian socialist rewrite of the facts and the history of the Zimmerman-Martin episode and trial.

There should have never been a trial. The trial demonstrated the prosecution never had a case and the PD and prosecutor in Sandford got it right from the start when they did not file charges. The only reason Zimmerman was charged was to appease the race baiters and race hustlers.

What evidence has seen the light of day regarding St Trayvon’s behavior the year or two before he viciously attacked Zimmerman further supports evidence presented in the trial that he was behaving oddly and that he could be easily motivated to and was capable of violently assaulting Zimmerman without any real provocation.

But the only people who will ever know this twenty years from now will be those who bother to do their own research, because by that time the left-wing re-write will have become firmly entrenched “conventional wisdom” among the vast majority of the ignorati and the sheeple.

Powell is not a “Republican”, no matter what he calls himself. And he can only be considered a “moderate” on a political scale where Howard Zinn is a bit left of center.

farsighted on August 26, 2013 at 11:06 AM

You guys are right. A black man can’t possibly disagree with you unless he is traitorous, race-obsessed, media whore lackey. No honest differences of opinion allowed from somebody who served their country in uniform and high office for more than 30 years.

urban elitist on August 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Projection.

Since you call ANY black conservative an Uncle Tom and race traitor, your Barack Obama calls black conservatives “house n*ggers” it’s clear to everyone that white liberals like yourself hate and loathe black people who do not obey their white massas.

When you repudiate calling black conservatives Uncle Toms and oreos, then you may speak. Until then, you’re nothing but a filthy hypocrite and liar.

northdallasthirty on August 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Move left. Not Powell. He already has. The thread. Over 100, should be moved to the left column.

Bmore on August 26, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Personal politics aside, it should be forever remembered that Colin Powell sat in silence for the entire duration of the Plame fishing expedition, which dragged on for years, and ultimately sat and silently watched Scooter Libby take the fall for his pal Dick Armitage.

Cylor on August 26, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Powell on June 2008,

“I will vote for the individual I think that brings the best set of tools to the problems of 21st-century America and the 21st-century world regardless of party, regardless of anything else other than the most qualified candidate,”

This is Powell tap-dancing around a reporter’s question about who he would vote for in the presidential election. The man either has a very bad sense of judgement or he is a racist. Say what you will about McClain, he was far more qualified to be president than the community organizer from Chicago, and was a wartime hero to boot.

Shut up Powell, you have zero credibility.

fogw on August 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell called the jury verdict that cleared the killer of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin “questionable”

And, I hereby challenge Colin Powell to a debate on the facts and the law.

He can pick the time and place.

I’ll choose Alan Dershowitz as the moderator.

Resist We Much on August 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

RINO

GarandFan on August 26, 2013 at 11:24 AM

When you repudiate calling black conservatives Uncle Toms and oreos, then you may speak. Until then, you’re nothing but a filthy hypocrite and liar.

northdallasthirty on August 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM

That never stopped Urban Fascist before, but then we are talking about a world-view that believes Norman Borlaug should burn in Hell forever while an admitted thug-wannabe is granted sainthood.

ebrown2 on August 26, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Colon Powell is an even bigger azzhole than obama.

He managed to fool a world for way longer than obama did.

He is a man without convictions, someone who sold his soul for a lifetime, depending which pimp paid the harlot the most.

He is simply a disgusting creature.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 11:44 AM

What’s actually pretty sad is the fact that clear racism on the part of blacks against whites–by Obama, Powell, Sharpton, Jackson, and their liberal minions in the media–is ignored by those who push a narrative that the only people who can be racist are whites.

Black people are racists. Use of the perjorative runs rampant in the black community when referring to whites. Terms like cracka, woods, and other epithets are routine appearing on Twitter and FB and other social media. Rhetoric like Powell used to denigrate and smear are routinely used on social media and their minions’ media venues.

The drumbeat of racism against white people has grown into a deafening roar; these black people and their supporters in liberalism routinely threaten to kill white people PUBLICLY. Mitt Romney, George Zimmerman, ANYONE who dares to defy their racist shrieks, is subjected to swarms of hatred and violence. And not one of you complain or even speak out against it. You tacitly and even overtly support it.

You think it’s okay for blacks to be racist. You’re neither offended by it or cognizant of it. You “disappear it” from your mind. You’re a hypocrite, living in a delusion. If you really hated racism, you’d hate all forms of it, not just those that are convenient to your own ideology. Liberalism is rank hypocrisy and lies.

mountainaires on August 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM

In fact a surprisingly higher percentage of blacks think blacks are racists, than whites think whites are racists:

…Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way. …

You have to compliment the respondents for their honesty. There’s hope for us yet.

slickwillie2001 on August 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM

I never bought the Colin Powell legend. I thought he was a weasel 20 years ago. But he’s exceeding all expectations.

rrpjr on August 26, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Resist We Much on August 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

And I challenge him for a debate on the idiocies he spewed yesterday about the TX and other states’ ID laws. He said that “the Hispanics and blacks will now do more to vote…basically illegally, in the case of the Hispanics…”

He is a horse’s ass, a turd even bigger than obama. At least obama is very transparent in who he’s always been. Colon faked it and fooled all sides. He is the bigger harlot, compared to empty obama.

Fool, and other fools, a driver’s lic. only proves that the picture matches you. It doesn’t prove that you are legally qualified to vote. Most all discussions about the voter ID and etc. are very stupid, from most sides. However, Powell to meddle with TX, just like Holder, is pure discriminatory political thuggery.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Cookie ‏@maxton5

Evolution of Miley Cyrus… pic.twitter.com/8vOfHJ8D3Q

davidk on August 26, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Map of the Day: Which Countries Grant Birthright Citizenship?

Resist We Much on August 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Look at how big the rest of the world is…the one which preaches at the other sections.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM

When you repudiate calling black conservatives Uncle Toms and oreos, then you may speak. Until then, you’re nothing but a filthy hypocrite and liar.

northdallasthirty on August 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM

HA is always better when you comment, ndt.

Urban Racist, you are beyond foolish. I despise McCain equally to Colon Powell, if not more. It has nothing to do with their hue, nor with their service. Btw, none exploited their hue/service more than Powell. He sure made the most of both parties, the incredible harlot. He always went with whichever president promoted him the most, based on hue. At least that McCain disaster knew how to fly and was in dire conditions for a long time. Powell lived the life of Riley, based on hue, ‘selling’ himself worse than a whore.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Powell is perhaps the best living example of Mark Twain’s quote that it’s better to remain silent and have others think you the fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.

He is little more than a pampered prince who leveraged a system ultimately creating another example of the peter principle at work.

As noted, his actions regarding the Plame affair were beyond contemptible and, IMO, disloyal to an Administration who promoted him to a position that someone even as limited as he was should have been able to achieve a modicum of success at. Instead he demonstrated how petty he could be.

With Brown / FEMA Director, Powell represents probably the second of the two worst senior appointments made by Bush 43.

Athos on August 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM

In other questionable news;

2nd suspect arrested in WWII vet’s fatal beating

who d’ baby daddy?

Terp Mole on August 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

The Rove part is sarcasm.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM

He voted for Obama twice. It’s doubtful that he has any interest in bucking up the Republican team.

TXAction on August 26, 2013 at 12:05 PM

I don’t know who has the record for the most own goals in American politics, but CP is certainly in the running.

ElectricPhase on August 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM

In other “questionable” news;

2nd suspect arrested in WWII vet’s fatal beating

If Powell had a son?

Terp Mole on August 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Personal politics aside, it should be forever remembered that Colin Powell sat in silence for the entire duration of the Plame fishing expedition, which dragged on for years, and ultimately sat and silently watched Scooter Libby take the fall for his pal Dick Armitage.

Cylor on August 26, 2013 at 11:17 AM

I will never forget that. And for those of you who have forgotten, the media firestorm was extremely damaging to the President when he was overseeing a war. Scooter Libby’s life was ruined, and Powell say by silently. What a traitor to truth and fairness he is. He has no honor.

JustTruth101 on August 26, 2013 at 12:07 PM

How about this. Colin Powell can do what he wants.

Who said that he couldn’t, moron?

He doesn’t need, nor solicit approval from conservative bloggers

Of course not, but they, like you, have a right to their opinions.

who haven’t accomplished the slightest smoothest slice of what he has. Be mad.

libfreeordie on August 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM

You are clueless, as usual. You have NO idea what anyone here has accomplished.

However, I know how little you have accomplished. You, like Powell, used your hues, you scumbags. He accomplished way more than you ever will, you mooching leech of the world. He at one point at least went to Viet Nam. You never risked anything, you tiny weasel of the world.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 12:08 PM

it should be forever remembered that Colin Powell sat in silence for the entire duration of the Plame fishing expedition…

Cylor on August 26, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Right. Sniveling moral coward. More concerned with his reputation with beltway elitists than honor or truth.

rrpjr on August 26, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Look, Gen. Powell is either a racist who voted for Obama twice simply because of his skin color; or Gen. Powell is no Republican. It’s as simple as that.

BigAlSouth on August 26, 2013 at 12:17 PM

He’s gone full Black Racist now.

WannabeAnglican on August 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Well, surprise, surprise, surprise!

HiJack on August 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM

What’s no surprise, sadly, is drivel like this.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Make sure to check out the last ‘toon.

Resist We Much on August 26, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Power Corrupts. Obviously the level of power required for Powell is pretty low.

astonerii on August 26, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Powell is a “moderate” on exactly what issues??? Really, that was a silly statement to make

georgealbert on August 26, 2013 at 12:26 PM

What’s no surprise, sadly, is drivel like this.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Aww, does Verbaluce have a case of the Sad-sies?

Go back to HuffPo and pi$$ off, already.

Maddie on August 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Powell is 100% right on the b.s. ‘voter fraud’ laws.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM

For all the racists on HA

h/t RWM

Also, obama’s other son was just captured.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Powell is 100% right on the b.s. ‘voter fraud’ laws.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM

NO, he is not. You’d need an ID to get into the DNC convention. Get your brain on.

Are you denying any progress since the 60s? If you are, what the hell was all your Utopian pipedream about?

There needs to be more than a driver’s lic. ID to be eligible to vote. A birth certificate or naturalization certificate or passport…come on, you can think…at least I assume that you can.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Big assumption is that leftists want only legals to vote, er…hah, hah.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 12:34 PM

For ex. the officials are not even mentioning the hue of the 2nd suspect in Spokane. Imagine if he were white – his pic. w/b plastered all over the TV.

PC will kill you all. I will laugh at the leftists’ heads being chopped off.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Powell is 100% right on the b.s. ‘voter fraud’ laws.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Once again, explain why it is so wrong to require someone to produce the same ID to vote that is required to:

Be employed (I-9 form requires gov’t issued photo ID);
enter a federal building;
have a checking account;
drive;
rent a car;
buy alcohol;
buy tobacco;
obtain federal and/or state benefits;
cash a check;
get married;
board an airplane;
check in to a hotel;
cross the border;

and do tons of other normal, every day activities?

This argument that requiring a photo ID “disenfranchises” anyone is so dishonest, it is laughable. The real question is, why is the left so afraid of voter ID laws? Could it be the election fraud the left relies so heavily on to win elections? Naw, couldn’t be. It must really be because the left believes that there are a ton of people walking around without the means to work, obtain government benefits or drive all at the same time. How they eat or pay rent without the ability to either work or get gov’t benefits is a mystery to all, but surely there are millions of these people at large.

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Merciful Teapot!!

The Obama Rodeo Clown has come “out of the shadows”

Turns out he’s a…..a…..gasp!! White Hispanic!!!

GET HIM!!!

ToddPA on August 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Oh, and in other Pertinent news for all Leftists:

Mike Tyson says he’s “on the verge of Dying”

So Leftists, put down your____ and stop watching the
Miley Cyrus video from last night!

ToddPA on August 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 12:32 PM

How much of a sucker are you for this stuff?
There’s no fraud.
And it’s no just IDs. They want hours shrunk, polling stations near/on canpuses closed.
When these things get to courts, the advocates for these measurs can’t event find any examples of fraud to cite.
You’re dancin’ with a bevy of harlots if you join this chorus line.
Think for yourself sometimes.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Powell is 100% right on the b.s. ‘voter fraud’ laws.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Once Again, The Extreme Left Is Way Out Of The Mainstream. Voter ID Laws Are Very Popular:..Even Jimmy Carter Supports Them

Resist We Much on August 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM

And…OFA sends in their d-lister LIV organizer to lie, obfuscate, and otherwise demonstrate his 80-something IQ.

Murphy9 on August 26, 2013 at 12:43 PM

If Republicans had been the ones caught voting multiple times, you can bet verbose couldn’t come up with enough regulations for voting.

Cindy Munford on August 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Who knew that Progressives thought that Jimmy Carter was a racist?

The 21-member bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform, co-chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker, advocated voted identification laws in 2005.

The commission called voter identification one of “five pillars” that would “build confidence” in the integrity of federal elections. Only three of the 21 commission members voted against requiring photo identification of voters.

2.5: VOTER IDENTIFICATION

A good registration list will ensure that citizens are only registered in one place, but election officials still need to make sure that the person arriving at a polling site is the same one that is named on the registration list. In the old days and in small towns where everyone knows each other, voters did not need to identify themselves. But in the United States, where 40 million people move each year, and in urban areas where some people do not even know the people living in their own apartment building let alone their precinct, some form of identification is needed.

There is no evidence of extensive fraud in U.S. elections or of multiple voting, but both occur, and it could affect the outcome of a close election. The electoral system cannot inspire public confidence if no safeguards exist to deter or detect fraud or to confirm the identity of voters. Photo IDs currently are needed to board a plane, enter federal buildings, and cash a check. Voting is equally important.

The voter identification requirements introduced by HAVA are modest. HAVA requires only first-time voters who register by mail to show an ID, and they can choose from a number of different types of identification. States are encouraged to allow an expansive list of acceptable IDs, including those without a photograph, such as utility bills or government checks. These requirements were not implemented in a uniform manner and, in some cases, not at all. After HAVA was enacted, efforts grew in the states to strengthen voter identification requirements. While 11 states required voter ID in 2001, 24 states now require voters to present an ID at the polls. In addition, bills to introduce or strengthen voter ID requirements are under consideration in 12 other states.

Our Commission is concerned that the different approaches to identification cards might prove to be a serious impediment to voting. There are two broad alternatives to this decentralized and unequal approach to identification cards. First, we could recommend eliminating any requirements for an ID because the evidence of multiple voting is thin, and ID requirements, as some have argued, are “a solution in search of a problem.” Alternatively, we could recommend a single national voting identification card. We considered but rejected both alternatives.

We rejected the first option — eliminating any requirements — because we believe that citizens should identify themselves as the correct person on the registration list when they vote. While the Commission is divided on the magnitude of voter fraud — with some believing the problem is widespread and others believing that it is minor — there is no doubt that it occurs. The problem, however, is not the magnitude of the fraud. In close or disputed elections, and there are many, a small amount of fraud could make the margin of difference. And second, the perception of possible fraud contributes to low confidence in the system. A good ID system could deter, detect, or eliminate several potential avenues of fraud— such as multiple voting or voting by individuals using the identities of others or those who are deceased — and thus it can enhance confidence. We view the other concerns about IDs — that they could disenfranchise eligible voters, have an adverse effect on minorities, or be used to monitor behavior — as serious and legitimate, and our proposal below aims to address each concern.

We rejected the second option of a national voting identification card because of the expense and our judgment that if these cards were only used for each election, voters would forget or lose them.

We therefore propose an alternative path. Instead of creating a new card, the Commission recommends that states use “REAL ID” cards for voting purposes. The REAL ID Act, signed into law in May 2005, requires states to verify each individual’s full legal name, date of birth, address, Social Security number, and U.S. citizenship before the individual is issued a driver’s license or personal ID card. The REAL ID is a logical vehicle because the National Voter Registration Act established a connection between obtaining a driver’s license and registering to vote. The REAL ID card adds two critical elements for voting — proof of citizenship and verification by using the full Social Security number.

The REAL ID Act does not require that the card indicates citizenship, but that would need to be done if the card is to be used for voting purposes. In addition, state bureaus of motor vehicles should automatically send the information to the state’s bureau of elections. (With the National Voter Registration Act, state bureaus of motor vehicles ask drivers if they want to register to vote and send the information only if the answer is affirmative.)

Reliance on REAL ID, however, is not enough. Voters, who do not drive, including older citizens, should have the opportunity to register to vote and receive a voter ID. Where they will need identification for voting, IDs should be easily available and issued free of charge. States would make their own decision whether to use REAL ID for voting purposes or instead to rely on a template form of voter ID. Each state would also decide whether to require voters to present an ID at the polls, but our Commission recommends that states use the REAL ID and/or an EAC template for voting, which would be a REAL ID card without reference to a driver’s license.

For the next two federal elections, until January 1, 2010, in states that require voters to present ID at the polls, voters who fail to do so should nonetheless be allowed to cast a provisional ballot, and their ballot would count if their signature is verified. After the REAL ID is phased in, i.e., after January 1, 2010, voters without a valid photo ID, meaning a REAL ID or an EAC-template ID, could cast a provisional ballot, but they would have to return personally to the appropriate election office within 48 hours with a valid photo ID for their vote to be counted.

To verify the identity of voters who cast absentee ballots, the voter’s signature on the absentee ballot can be matched with a digitized version of the signature that the election administrator maintains. While such signature matches are usually done, they should be done consistently in all cases, so that election officials can verify the identity of every new registrant who casts an absentee ballot.

The introduction of voter ID requirements has raised concerns that they may present a barrier to voting, particularly by traditionally marginalized groups, such as the poor and minorities, some of whom lack a government-issued photo ID. They may also create obstacles for highly mobile groups of citizens. Part of these concerns are addressed by assuring that government-issued photo identification is available without expense to any citizen and, second, by government efforts to ensure that all voters are provided convenient opportunities to obtain a REAL ID or EAC-template ID card. As explained in Section 4.1, the Commission recommends that states play an affirmative role in reaching out with mobile offices to individuals who do not have a driver’s license or other government-issued photo ID to help them register to vote and obtain an ID card.

There are also longstanding concerns voiced by some Americans that national identification cards might be a step toward a police state. On that note, it is worth recalling that most advanced democracies have fraud-proof voting or national ID cards, and their democracies remain strong. Still, these concerns about the privacy and security of the card require additional steps to protect against potential abuse. We propose two approaches. First, new institutional and procedural safeguards should be established to assure people that their privacy, security, and identity will not be compromised by ID cards. The cards should not become instruments for monitoring behavior. Second, certain groups may see the ID cards as an obstacle to voting, so the government needs to take additional measures to register voters and provide ID cards.

The needed measures would consist of legal protections, strict procedures for managing voter data, and creation of ombudsman institutions. The legal protections would prohibit any commercial use of voter data and impose penalties for abuse. The data-management procedures would include background checks on all officials with access to voter data and requirements to notify individuals who are removed from the voter registration list. The establishment of ombudsman institutions at the state level would assist individuals to redress any cases of abuse. The ombudsman would be charged with assisting voters to overcome bureaucratic mistakes and hurdles and respond to citizen complaints about the misuse of data.

The Commission’s recommended approach to voter ID may need to adapt to changes in national policy in the future. Since the attacks of September 11, 2001, concerns about homeland security have led to new policies on personal identification. Under a presidential directive, about 40 million Americans who work for or contract with the federal government are being issued ID cards with biometrics, and the REAL ID card may very well become the principal identification card in the country. Driven by security concerns, our country may already be headed toward a national identity card. In the event that a national identity card is introduced, our Commission recommends that it be used for voting purposes as well.

RECOMMENDATIONS ON VOTER IDENTIFICATION

2.5.1 To ensure that persons presenting themselves at the polling place are the ones on the registration list, the Commission recommends that states require voters to use the REAL ID card, which was mandated in a law signed by the President in May 2005. The card includes a person’s full legal name, date of birth, a signature (captured as a digital image), a photograph, and the person’s Social Security number. This card should be modestly adapted for voting purposes to indicate on the front or back whether the individual is a U.S. citizen. States should provide an EAC-template ID with a photo to non-drivers free of charge.

2.5.2 The right to vote is a vital component of U.S. citizenship, and all states should use their best efforts to obtain proof of citizenship before registering voters.

2.5.3 We recommend that until January 1, 2010, states allow voters without a valid photo ID card (Real or EAC-template ID) to vote, using a provisional ballot by signing an affidavit under penalty of perjury. The signature would then be matched with the digital image of the voter’s signature on file in the voter registration database, and if the match is positive, the provisional ballot should be counted. Such a signature match would in effect be the same procedure used to verify the identity of voters who cast absentee ballots. After January 1, 2010, voters who do not have their valid photo ID could vote, but their ballot would only count if they returned to the appropriate election office within 48 hours with a valid photo ID.

2.5.4 To address concerns about the abuse of ID cards, or the fear that it could be an obstacle to voting, states should establish legal protections to prohibit any commercial use of voter data and ombudsman institutions to respond expeditiously to any citizen complaints about the misuse of data or about mistaken purges of registration lists based on interstate matching or statewide updating.

2.5.5 In the event that Congress mandates a national identification card, it should include information related to voting and be connected to voter registration.

In 2008, the Supreme Court in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 553 U.S. 181, held that an Indiana law requiring voters to provide photo IDs did not violate the Constitution of the United States by a vote of 6-3. The majority opinion was written by uber-liberal, John Paul Stevens.

He wrote:

‘The relevant burdens here are those imposed on eligible voters who lack photo identification cards that comply with SEA 483. Because Indiana’s cards are free, the inconvenience of going to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles, gathering required documents, and posing for a photograph DOES NOT QUALIFY AS A SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN ON MOST VOTERS’ RIGHT TO VOTE, OR REPRESENT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OVER THE USUAL BURDENS OF VOTING.

The severity of the somewhat heavier burden that may be placed on a limited number of persons—e.g., elderly persons born out-of-state, who may have difficulty obtaining a birth certificate—IS MITIGATED BY THE FACT THAT ELIGIBLE VOTERS WITHOUT PHOTO IDENTIFICATION MAY CAST PROVISIONAL BALLOTS that will be counted if they execute the required affidavit at the circuit court clerk’s office.

Even assuming that the burden may not be justified as to a few voters, that conclusion is by no means sufficient to establish petitioners’ right to the relief they seek.’

- Associate Justice John Paul Stevens of the United State Supreme Court, Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, 553 U.S. 181 (2008)

Do some homework on Stevens. He was an uber Prog.

Resist We Much on August 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Powell is NOT a moderate. He’s a RINO, but even RINO isn’t a strong enough description. I don’t know why he just doesn’t switch parties…it’s ok, I’m sure there’s other Democrats out there that can balance checkbooks too. This jerk is responsible for our not finishing Saddam the first time, he started getting wobbly after we did “Ambush Alley” in 1991. Go figure, a combat arms general horrified by the effects of combat arms. There is a good caricature of him in Mars Attacks.

Worst of all, he’s got limp dead fish hand shake.

John_G on August 26, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Where is all the ID fraud?
There just isn’t any. But leave IDs aside for a sec –
why (as in the recent North Carolina law) did advocates feel necessary to cut the number of early voting days by a week?
56 percent of North Carolinians voted early in 2012.
They have also eliminated same-day voter registration, even though 96,000 people used it during the general election in 2012. African-Americans are 23 percent of registered voters in the state, but made up 28 percent of early voters in 2012, and 33 percent of those who used same-day registration.
You can’t with a straight face call this anything other than a voter suppression effort.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I want to like Colin Powell. I really want to. I was an Army officer, and admire his family greatly. But he claims to be friend of the GOP groom, but is always sitting on the Dem bride’s side of the church. Often while parroting the latest “black’s plight is whitey’s fault” nonsense.

One of my girls gave me a bio of Powell, thinking that I’d like it. What I found is a man who has been continualy promoted because he is either obviously brilliant or black, or better yet, a brilliant black man. Not that he didn’t deserve any of the posts, but it always seemed that he’d just move into one, and before he coud prove his worth, would get promoted to another. Everyone wanted to be on the I-saw-his-potential-and-helped-him-on-his-path bandwagon.

In my mind, he’s outlived his usefulness and is now just another opinionated blowhard. Unfortunately, that is no barrier to his continued presence on Sunday morning TV. He is, y’know, a brilliant black man…

NeoCon_1 on August 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM

How much of a sucker are you for this stuff?
There’s no fraud.
And it’s no just IDs. They want hours shrunk, polling stations near/on canpuses closed.
When these things get to courts, the advocates for these measurs can’t event find any examples of fraud to cite.
You’re dancin’ with a bevy of harlots if you join this chorus line.
Think for yourself sometimes.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Funny you should mention that these “advocates” can’t find
any Fraud to cite. Hmmmmm, I seem to recall Voter Fraud cases
being filed in 14 states. And there WERE CONVICTIONS.

Please explain to us Rubes here how a proposed Law that will
apply to EVERYONE, only discriminates against a few….

oh that’s right, Poll workers will simply give ALL WHITES
a pass to go right thru….

Verb, you need to better your arguments here, instead of Dancing
in a Chorus Line of Nonsensical hysteria about these Laws.

ToddPA on August 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM

How much of a sucker are you for this stuff?
There’s no fraud.
And it’s no just IDs. They want hours shrunk, polling stations near/on canpuses closed.
When these things get to courts, the advocates for these measurs can’t event find any examples of fraud to cite.
You’re dancin’ with a bevy of harlots if you join this chorus line.
Think for yourself sometimes.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM

there has in fact been multiple cases of fraud in every recent election. Particularly with absentee voting. Now, I doubt it rises to the level of more than about 1% of the vote, but in a very close election, that could matter.

As far as requiring a showing of fraud – it is not required. The idea that showing a photo ID is in any way onerous or will disenfranchise anyone is ridiculous on every level.

As far as the when and where of voting – I have not seen a lot of agitating for closing down polling stations, if there is too much of that I would not necessarily support it. I would have to see the details. Certainly, voting should be limited to a single day (I think we should get rid of early voting for a plethora of reasons and absentee voting should be limited to those truly unable to get to a polling station – it should not be for convenience).

but, I note that, as always, you slowly start to change your argument when challenged on it. “Voter ID laws are terrible.” Someone points out how ridiculous that is and then “well, it’s about the hours and locations too!!”.

Which is it? Are you saying you have no problem with requiring voters to produce photo ID? Or are you arguing against changing times/locations?

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Look — a voter fraud fan. Who would have believed it?

rrpjr on August 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM

If Republicans had been the ones caught voting multiple times, you can bet verbose couldn’t come up with enough regulations for voting.

Cindy Munford on August 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Fiction.
Here’s what it comes down to, plain and simple.
Repubs have always done better with low voter turnouts.
So the strategic reasons for these efforts is understandable – but still completely wrong and fully undemocratic.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM

I know this is strong but Colin Powell is a fool.

It’s not him, alone. I am truly sick of people taking to the airwaves and expressing their opinions about the Zimmerman case based on nothing. Put Colin Powell (or the others) on air with defense counsel and let’s find out how much Colin Powell actually knows about the evidence in the case.

In this nation today, black = race. For some (Al Sharpton, for example), race defines their life. It certainly produces their livelihood.

This may sound odd, but Malcolm X was not wrong, not about everything. To me, as radical as he was, at the core, he taught that the black man was every bit the equal of any other man (or woman), but there was a responsibility that went with it. (A) You are anyone’s equal, so (B) Act like it.

When John Lewis or Al Sharpton suggests that black people are incapable of carrying identification, that the requirement to prove who you are is only targeting black people because they aren’t up to the task of getting an ID (while having no problem at all applying for public assistance or subsidized housing, for example), it’s time to look at such people (Colin Powell included) as enablers, not saviors.

IndieDogg on August 26, 2013 at 12:53 PM

why (as in the recent North Carolina law) did advocates feel necessary to cut the number of early voting days by a week?
56 percent of North Carolinians voted early in 2012.

I’m against early voting. There should be a single day for voting and people can get to the polls – even if it inconveniences them a little. to claim otherwise is silly. Absentee voting should be reserved for those who truly cannot get to the polls (those living overseas, in the military or disabled/shut-ins). Voting is a duty and you should have to show up to do it. And it should all be done on the same day for the most part by everyone, not in dribs and drabs.

They have also eliminated same-day voter registration, even though 96,000 people used it during the general election in 2012. African-Americans are 23 percent of registered voters in the state, but made up 28 percent of early voters in 2012, and 33 percent of those who used same-day registration.

You can’t with a straight face call this anything other than a voter suppression effort.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I certainly can call it something other than voter suppression. By your argument, some people are just too damn stupid or lazy to bother registering to vote prior to election day. Tough crap. It’s not hard, anyone can do it. for something that is going to decide the fate of our country, I expect people to be able to inconvenience themselves enough to fill out a form and mail it in prior to the election day.

As for the racial statistics, so what? Who cares who failed to register. It seems to me the answer is for those people to get off their buts and register like everyone else prior to election day. How hard is that? Tell me the sob stories of black people too poor to fill out a form and mail it in. Please.

As for fraud – there have been multiple cases of fraud in every one of the last several elections – particularly with absentee voting. There have even been convictions. Your blase attitude is really silly. to claim with something with as much consequence as elections would not engender people engaging in fraud is what cannot be said with a straight face.

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Powell is a moderate

He’s an admitted racist. He is also a democrat, regardless of party affiliation.

dogsoldier on August 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I note that, as always, you slowly start to change your argument when challenged on it. “Voter ID laws are terrible.” Someone points out how ridiculous that is and then “well, it’s about the hours and locations too!!”.

Which is it? Are you saying you have no problem with requiring voters to produce photo ID? Or are you arguing against changing times/locations?

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 12:51 PM

No, I was illustrating that these efforts aren’t solely limited to IDs – because even getting that through wouldn’t fix the ‘problem’ for the GOP. My point is that these efforts are designed to make it harder to vote – not to make it harder to vote fraudulently.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:49 PM

No need to apologize or explain. We understand. Voter fraud is important to democrats. It’s just politics.

rrpjr on August 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

“These kinds of procedures that are being put in place to slow the process down and make it likely that fewer Hispanics and African Americans might vote I think are going to backfire, because these people are going to come out and do what they have to to vote, and I encourage that,” Powell said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

Except, General Bowel, your theory of vote supression isn’t needed. It is, in fact, utterly refuted by the available reams of data from the thirty-four states that already have voter ID laws in place. And twenty of those states require picture ID.

This is the same tired game the Leftwits played with concealed carry laws in every state that adopted them. Ignore what’s happening elsewhere, and lyingly predict doom.

M240H on August 26, 2013 at 12:59 PM

As for fraud – there have been multiple cases of fraud in every one of the last several elections – particularly with absentee voting. There have even been convictions. Your blase attitude is really silly. to claim with something with as much consequence as elections would not engender people engaging in fraud is what cannot be said with a straight face.

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 12:57 PM

It’s rampant. We must require real residency and end same day registration. We also must have closed primaries.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/breaking-joe-bidens-niece-voted-in-new-hampshire-but-lived-in-new-york/

dogsoldier on August 26, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Fiction.
Here’s what it comes down to, plain and simple.
Repubs have always done better with low voter turnouts.
So the strategic reasons for these efforts is understandable – but still completely wrong and fully undemocratic.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM

There is no STRATEGY. IT IS CALLED THE RULE OF LAW.

What the Hell is the Matter with you????

ToddPA on August 26, 2013 at 1:02 PM

No, I was illustrating that these efforts aren’t solely limited to IDs – because even getting that through wouldn’t fix the ‘problem’ for the GOP. My point is that these efforts are designed to make it harder to vote – not to make it harder to vote fraudulently.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Please -since you are so fond of calling for evidence of fraud- show us where in the thirty-four states that have Voter ID laws, there has been any votes suppressed?

M240H on August 26, 2013 at 1:02 PM

The (R) next to Colon Bowel’s name stands for “Rectum”.

Stuntbaby63 on August 26, 2013 at 1:03 PM

No, Jazz. He’s not a moderate. He’s an idiot liberal and and he never disappoints his liberal base. Colon Blow can GFH.

Jaibones on August 26, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Here’s what it comes down to, plain and simple.
Repubs have always done better with low voter turnouts.
So the strategic reasons for these efforts is understandable – but still completely wrong and fully undemocratic.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM

A) the low voter turnout thing is a myth. It has no basis in fact.

b) your argument boils down to “people who are going to vote democrat are too stupid and lazy to (1) register to vote like they are supposed to and (2) go to the polls so we have to have special conditions to get them to vote”

Hardly a winning message.

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Powell is continuing his racist activities and proving he was not fit to be even a 4 star, let alone a 5 star general!

tomshup on August 26, 2013 at 1:04 PM

What the Hell is the Matter with you????

ToddPA on August 26, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Mental illness.

There is video of dead people voting in NH, of someone other than Eric Holder getting his ballot and people voting for Zero more than once and getting convicted, but to mentally ill people like verb, it’s all ok. Not a problem.

Of course if the votes were going against the socialists then they would be screaming.

dogsoldier on August 26, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Another ‘son of obama’

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 1:06 PM

This is the dope who voted for odumbo twice because he liked his policies. Bull, he liked his color and to think this dpoe is a general.

rjoco1 on August 26, 2013 at 1:07 PM

No, I was illustrating that these efforts aren’t solely limited to IDs – because even getting that through wouldn’t fix the ‘problem’ for the GOP. My point is that these efforts are designed to make it harder to vote – not to make it harder to vote fraudulently.

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Well, we are arguing two different things. An honest argument would require you to differentiate and point to a specific proposal to limit hours/locations for anyone to respond.

As I said, I’m philosophically opposed to open=ended voting. It is rife for being abused with fraud, and it takes away some of the civic responsibility that voting is supposed to engender. It also causes problems when people vote too early in the process and significant new facts/events take place after they have cast their vote.

There should be one set of rules for everyone to follow. voting should be on a date certain. I don’t personally care if the polls are open for 24 hours on that date, but only one day. The only people who should be allowed to vote outside of that date are people living overseas, in the military and those truly disabled and unable to get to a polling station.

Otherwise, anyone who claims that voting is “hard” is laughable. If you can’t manage to get to polling place one time every couple of years you are too sad a case to count for much.

Monkeytoe on August 26, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Powell is a moderate

There is that moderate term again.

It is NOT moderate to defend voter fraud.
It is NOT moderate to invade half of the middle east.
It is NOT moderate to run up massive debts.
It is NOT moderate to be for late term abortions.
It is NOT moderate to spy on Americans with out just cause.
It is NOT moderate to call America a battleground.

Nothing moderate about any of this…

William Eaton on August 26, 2013 at 1:11 PM

verbaluce on August 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM

You gnatbrain, don’t you tell me how to think, or when, and at all. You need to be born 99 times to catch up. Your entire post proved it, for all who actually do think.

Schadenfreude on August 26, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Progressive count on voter fraud. People who oppose vote ID laws do so for the sole reason of cheating elections. NO ONE is disenfranchised by having to show ID, only liars or morons would claim it.

Flange on August 26, 2013 at 1:17 PM

And, I hereby challenge Colin Powell to a debate on the facts and the law.

He can pick the time and place.

I’ll choose Alan Dershowitz as the moderator.

Resist We Much on August 26, 2013 at 11:19 AM

WOOHOO, time to pop the popcorn!

Who’s holding the bets – I’ve got some cash here to put on RWM!

Midas on August 26, 2013 at 1:18 PM

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