Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on August 25, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria’s civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.

More Americans would back intervention if it is established that chemical weapons have been used, but even that support has dipped in recent days – just as Syria’s civil war has escalated and the images of hundreds of civilians allegedly killed by chemicals appeared on television screens and the Internet.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll, taken August 19-23, found that 25 percent of Americans would support U.S. intervention if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s forces used chemicals to attack civilians, while 46 percent would oppose it. That represented a decline in backing for U.S. action since August 13, when Reuters/Ipsos tracking polls found that 30.2 percent of Americans supported intervention in Syria if chemicals had been used, while 41.6 percent did not.

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“This is not something where opposition forces have contrived something,” said Senate Foreign Relations Committee Ranking Member Bob Corker (R-TN) on Fox News Sunday. “I hope the president, as soon as we get back to Washington will ask for authorization from Congress to do something in a very surgical and proportional way.”

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY), the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, agreed, but said President Obama doesn’t need Congress’s approval “initially.”

“I just think that we have to move and we have to move quickly,” Engel said. “I do agree with Senator Corker that Congress needs to be involved but perhaps not initially. Perhaps the president could start and then Congress needs to resolve it and ascend to it.”

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“At this juncture, the belated decision by the regime to grant access to the UN team is too late to be credible, including because the evidence available has been significantly corrupted as a result of the regime’s persistent shelling and other intentional actions over the last five days,” the statement said.

The administration has said that the use of chemical weapons would be considered a red line that would trigger a response by the United States.

Quoting Syria state television, the Associated Press reported that the Syrian government agreed to allow the U.N. team to visit the locations near the capital of Damascus.

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At this point, a prolonged stalemate is the only outcome that would not be damaging to American interests.

Indeed, it would be disastrous if President Bashar al-Assad’s regime were to emerge victorious after fully suppressing the rebellion and restoring its control over the entire country. Iranian money, weapons and operatives and Hezbollah troops have become key factors in the fighting, and Mr. Assad’s triumph would dramatically affirm the power and prestige of Shiite Iran and Hezbollah, its Lebanon-based proxy — posing a direct threat both to the Sunni Arab states and to Israel.

But a rebel victory would also be extremely dangerous for the United States and for many of its allies in Europe and the Middle East. That’s because extremist groups, some identified with Al Qaeda, have become the most effective fighting force in Syria. If those rebel groups manage to win, they would almost certainly try to form a government hostile to the United States. Moreover, Israel could not expect tranquillity on its northern border if the jihadis were to triumph in Syria.

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The Prime Minister spoke with President Barack Obama by telephone to ask for help with convening an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council.

He wants to put forward a “game-changing” resolution that would give the Syrian government, led by Bashar al-Assad, “one last chance” to disarm.

Mr Cameron is said to have been left sickened by images of children killed by the chemical weapons.

One charity yesterday said at least 355 people had died and 10 times that number were treated for poisoning.

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Today, the world appears to be at a crossroads. The stark and compelling evidence of large-scale atrocities, including the strongly suspected use of chemical weapons outside Damascus last week, killing perhaps hundreds of people, comes amid a growing perception that a weak and divided international community is powerless and unwilling to act on crimes against humanity. A sense of impunity feeds boldness and escalation. In Damascus, Cairo and elsewhere, actors today are making dangerous decisions based on the calculation that they will not be called to account.

In these circumstances, it is the easiest thing to say that, in the case of Syria in particular, there are only bad options. That may be true. But increasingly it may be that there is a worse option: doing nothing.

This paper has resisted the calls for military intervention in Syria. It remains the case that such intervention seems a deeply perilous route, with no guarantee of success and pregnant with the risk of triggering a wider regional war. But we do appear to be coming ever closer to a tipping point, with difficult judgments ahead. The recent statements from William Hague and President Obama have raised the temperature and increased the likelihood of some form of action or sanction if it is conclusively proved that the Syrian regime is authoring chemical attacks on its citizens. Hague is right to say that “a chemical attack … is not something that a humane and civilised world can ignore”.

Yet the case for military intervention has still to be made. Obama seems intent, rightly, on getting international agreement for an even more limited form of action – securing chemical weapons or neutralising missile sites. And, looking back at Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan, who can say with any certainty that the lives of Syrians would improve in the long term if such a course of action was taken?

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Electrongod, Cristien and Caneloader.Thoughts and prayers to you.

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM

It is friggen hot out…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Christein. Sorry…

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Electrongod, Cristien and Caneloader.Thoughts and prayers to you.

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Amen…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Mr. Happy Happy Happy likes drones so much, why doesn’t he judge, convict and execute Assad like he’s done with everyone else on his list, instead of dragging us into another war?

scalleywag on August 25, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Electrongod, Cristien and Caneloader.Thoughts and prayers to you.

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 8:02 PM

…ditto… that Bishop!

KOOLAID2 on August 25, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Our idiots have no idea what they are doing. Floating trial ballloons and hoping to distract. It will work…..

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 8:07 PM

“This is not something where opposition forces have contrived something,” said Senate Foreign Relations Committee Ranking Member Bob Corker (R-TN) on Fox News Sunday.

How do you know that for sure, you idiot?!

Did some of McCain’s trusted “rebel” friends tell you that?

VorDaj on August 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Hey, Scrumpy!

I was too busy ho-wrangling last nite to pop into QOTD, but I wanted to thank you for your kind comments at my blog. I’m not sure how an essay littered with “f-bombs”, “a-holes” and calling Toure’ a “smug, effete douchenozzle” qualifies as “poignant”, but I will accept the comment graciously. Since my blog isn’t monetized, my only pay is the comments of people that enjoy it. Thank you.

PointnClick on August 25, 2013 at 8:14 PM

It is friggen hot out…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Lucky you OC, I just started up the wood stove on the porch, very cool down here.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM

PointnClick on August 25, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Here ya go PointnClick, $, consider it a tip on fare. Don’t report it. ; )

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:18 PM

“I hope the president, as soon as we get back to Washington will ask for authorization from Congress to do something in a very surgical and proportional way” said Bob Corker (R).

Now that would really pointless, and stupid, to do something “proportional” (small) and “surgical.” Because we would be seen as a great aggressor by China and Russia and the rest of the world, but we’d achieve nothing, except for rattling a hornet’s nest a tiny bit.

What would be stupider still would be to go all out to defeat Assad. We’re talking all out like in the 6 months around the clock bombing campaign on Libya, but this wouldn’t be at all as easy or as risk free. Syria would gain potential support from Russia and others and this could seriously complicate our effort or widen the battle.

Stay out of Syria!

anotherJoe on August 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Lucky you OC, I just started up the wood stove on the porch, very cool down here.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Not sure I would call it lucky, it is 93 degrees out on my front porch in the shade…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

I don’t trust any of this lot to run a war…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 8:20 PM

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Remarkable is what it is. Swap ya anytime. ; ) 62 here. Going down to mid 50′s in a bit.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:21 PM

PointnClick on August 25, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Been reading your stuff. You’re very good!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM

I don’t trust any of this lot to run a war…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 8:20 PM

It ain’t no war. It’s just a distraction to divert attention from the rest of Bozo’s scandals and criminal activities.

Harbingeing on August 25, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Harbingeing on August 25, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Exactly!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

You know, if we had energy independence, we would love to see Iran and Hezbollah pour their resources into a Syria-shaped hole. We could even go around trying to get new fronts opened up against them–wage a proxy war of economics. Oh, the sweet tactical and economic advantages of energy independence.

But since we have no such thing, and since actively prolonging the conflict by supporting whichever side appeared to be losing at the time is not morally defensible, we ought to do nothing.

TexasDan on August 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Also, from the two articles I read today, my take-away that we have zero intelligence of our own on the ground regarding the actual use of chemical weapons. Is that correct? Is all this based on that video and reading into Assad’s actions to determine guilt?

TexasDan on August 25, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Resist We Much on August 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Not sure if you are interested, a friend from over at FN did this. Credit him and FN and he won’t have any issues with you using it. His nom is pcrdds. Made me laugh anyway. ; )

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:30 PM

About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria’s civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.

One of Ronald Reagan’s 4 foriegn policy principles is/was:

3. Before we commit our troops to combat, there must be reasonable assurance that the cause we are fighting for and the actions we take will have the support of the American people and Congress.

9% isn’t remotely like that.

VorDaj on August 25, 2013 at 8:32 PM

A comment from roadguy911 on the earlier thread:

This from sky news:

“Charles Lister, an analyst at IHS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Center, told the Jerusalem Post that the timing of such an attack raises eyebrows. “Logically, it would make little sense for the Syrian government to employ chemical agents at such a time, particularly given the relatively close proximity of the targeted towns (to the UN team),” he said.

As we have documented for well over a year, the inevitability of a chemical weapons attack has been consistently hyped by the media despite the fact that by engaging in such actions, the Assad regime would guarantee international condemnation and create a casus belli for its own destruction.

anotherJoe on August 25, 2013 at 8:37 PM

The picture on the mainpage is almost identical to the pic I’m using on E-Harmony.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 8:37 PM

72% to 76% approved of going into Iraq. America true to form deplores war. Or perhaps just maybe there is a serious lack of trust in the current administration. I know most of us don’t trust them, maybe others are having that take as well.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:38 PM

Stay out of Syria!

anotherJoe on August 25, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Yeppers (and broken heart alert)

President Obama, Please Explain Why We Are Arming People Who Do This…

Resist We Much on August 25, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Nice, Lolz!

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Is it pirate night or bad word scrabble with phonetic spelling night?

SparkPlug on August 25, 2013 at 8:40 PM

I’m leaning toward the LET THEM JUST KILL EACH OTHER camp.

ctmom on August 25, 2013 at 8:40 PM

The picture on the mainpage is almost identical to the pic I’m using on E-Harmony.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 8:37 PM

lol

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 8:41 PM

SparkPlug on August 25, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Moon update,19 days 72.69 %

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:41 PM

There have been a record number of low temps this summer. I saw it on Drudge.

No matter the weather, Syria is a muzzie hell hole which is worse than a hell hole.

SparkPlug on August 25, 2013 at 8:45 PM

About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria’s civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.

Well then, they need to get some Muslims to blow s— up and get Americans on board!

On May 5th the Israelis attacked a Syrian convoy. One would think they would be hitting the Al-Qaeda/FSA fanatics…why would Israel want a new United Arab Republic under the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda from sea (Black) to shining sea (Red)?

And the French are very supportive of Al-Qaeda.

This whole thing smells.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

eff’em

bazil9 on August 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Still nothing about the Lane or Shorty murders by feral savages … Hmmmm …

Courage.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Still nothing about the Lane or Shorty murders by feral savages … Hmmmm …

Courage.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Black on white crime is so common that it doesn’t really warrant any reporting, donchaknow.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Ok, seriously – do we have guidance, or is there a good web guide for ‘going galt’ for someone that a) has a family, a home, a job, etc, and b) really, quite desperately, wants to starve this f*cking g0vernment and all of its f*cking leeches.

Thanks in advance.

Midas on August 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

WHO TRUSTS THIS PRESIDENT TO DO THE RIGHT
THING ABOUT ANYTHING ?
Better to stay out .

Lucano on August 25, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Can we get a reset button going on this?? /

blockchords on August 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

B9!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Obama seems intent, rightly, on getting international agreement for an even more limited form of action – securing chemical weapons or neutralising missile sites. And, looking back at Libya…

Yeah, looking back at Libya, Obama got authorization only to impose a no fly zone. Instead, and immediately, they commenced with an onslaught of around the clock intensive bombing, for six straight months.

anotherJoe on August 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Thanks for the lunar forecast outlook. Right now its waxing with intermittent waning and a scattered penumbra.

What kind of wood did you use to make your wood stove? (:

SparkPlug on August 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

From Carla del Ponte UN human rights investigator. Not conclusive but still not to be dismissed at all.

“Syrian rebels have made use of the deadly nerve agent sarin in their war-torn country’s conflict, UN human rights investigator Carla del Ponte has said.

Find it here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10039672/UN-accuses-Syrian-rebels-of-chemical-weapons-use.html

Here’s more:

“According to the testimonies we have gathered, the rebels have used chemical weapons, making use of sarin gas,” del Ponte, a former war crimes prosecutor, said in an interview with Swiss radio late on Sunday.

“We still have to deepen our investigation, verify and confirm (the findings) through new witness testimony, but according to what we have established so far, it is at the moment opponents of the regime who are using sarin gas,” she added.

VorDaj on August 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Thanks in advance.

Midas on August 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

It takes a sizable amount of planning and pre-pro. That said it can be done. It is (can be) difficult. The reward is in the eye of the beholder. If you have an accountant you trust, talk to them first. In your instance make sure the family is completely on board. It is a low profile situation. I have been in process for several years. Soon. I will certainly miss the people here.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:57 PM

The picture on the mainpage is almost identical to the pic I’m using on E-Harmony.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Except I haven’t modded the bolt handle on my Mosin-Nagant M44 so that I can run a modern scope like his.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 8:57 PM

SparkPlug on August 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Iron.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM

CONTAINMENT. Not only for Syria, but for the entire middle east with the exception of Israel.

We should ramp up our own domestic energy production, particularly fracking, and make the Saudi nightmare of the world no longer needing middle eastern oil a reality. This would break OPEC, and frankly, I don’t care if the middle east ends up gargling with the stuff…the world has danced to OPEC’s tune long enough.

We should simply contain the violence in the middle east to the region. Let each nation settle their internal issues themselves…and look to affording protection for our ally in the region, Israel.

thatsafactjack on August 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Yeah, my Marlin .35 will stay original as well. Well at least that was the plan, till I drop over board in the lake one evening.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

B9!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Chello :]

bazil9 on August 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

It happens. More frequently lately.

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

“I hope the president, as soon as we get back to Washington will ask for authorization from Congress to do something in a very surgical and proportional way.”

If the surgery involves bombing chemical weapons stocks, we’ll kill far more people than we’ll “save”.

unclesmrgol on August 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Ban on boats or boating? Which would work best I can’t truly discern.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

bazil9 on August 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

You look lovely tonight!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

I was talking about the unfortunate loss of a sturdy firearm while at sea…or at river…at lake?

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:07 PM

On May 5th the Israelis attacked a Syrian convoy. One would think they would be hitting the Al-Qaeda/FSA fanatics…why would Israel want a new United Arab Republic under the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda from sea (Black) to shining sea (Red)?

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Do you think that perhaps Israel isn’t so concerned about Al Qaeda as they are about Syria’s proxy — Hezbollah — in Lebanon?

I think the Syrians are supplying Hezbollah with more than mere moral support — especially since Hezbollah militias are fighting in Syria alongside the Syrian government.

I don’t think we have a dog in this fight, but Israel certainly does.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Syrian-opposition-Iran-and-Hezbollah-ruling-Syrian-regime-323499

http://abcnews.go.com/International/hezbollah-al-qaeda-fighters-edging-closer-confrontation/story?id=19144119

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/22/319938/iran-hezbollah-support-peace-in-syria/

unclesmrgol on August 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

bazil9 on August 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

You look lovely tonight!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

I see you stole axe’s bottle. ;)
Ty Ken.

bazil9 on August 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Thanks.

Midas on August 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

You look lovely tonight!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

. . . Hello?

I suppose I just look like old curtains, right?

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Makes me wonder how much concern the US gov has on hezbollah in paraguay.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM

(Reuters) – Russia warned the United States on Sunday against repeating past mistakes, saying that any unilateral military action in Syria would undermine efforts for peace and have a devastating impact on the security situation in the Middle East.

Why would we take action that would spark international outrage and possible wider war. “A wider war,” what does that mean? Who knows, but we can’t just keep pushing around our friendly enemies like Russia and never ever expect to have to pay a price. Don’t expend our international goodwill here…. to support al Quaeda? Do it when it matters. Syria doesn’t.

anotherJoe on August 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM

VorDaj on August 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

So, either it was a false flag to get us in, with the rebels using their own (dead) people as props.

Or both sides are using CW.

Personally, I lean toward the latter, but either way, it’s more proof that the only thing we should do is send humanitarian aid and try to get the innocents out of the line of fire.

Then let the fanatics on both sides in that snake pit fang each other to death. No matter how long it takes.

I suspect the Lebanese are watching this with carefully-concealed satisfaction. Syria is now doing to itself what it helped Hezbollah & Co. do to them for over a decade.

What goes around comes around.

clear ether

eon

eon on August 25, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Thanks.

Midas on August 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

I will try at some point over the coming threads to add to my info that I can share with you on this, a public forum. ; ) Start working towards it now $ wise. ; )

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Well done.

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

I suppose I just look like old curtains, right?

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Ha! You wish!

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

If the surgery involves bombing chemical weapons stocks, we’ll kill far more people than we’ll “save”.

unclesmrgol on August 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Exactly. The result would be another Bhopal, at the very least.

And count on Assad, or whoever, to have as many innocent women and children around it as “human shields” as they can bring in. At gunpoint.

clear ether

eon

eon on August 25, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

You look …Sturdy…

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:15 PM

One charity yesterday said at least 355 people had died and 10 times that number were treated for poisoning.

That’s it? That’s your “mass-killing is occurring” justification?

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Only men with little willies, or women who wish they had one, need a gun.

cozmo on August 25, 2013 at 9:17 PM

You look …Sturdy…

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Ah. Thanks man. :)

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 9:17 PM

I do not trust Chuck Hagel at all…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Do you think that perhaps Israel isn’t so concerned about Al Qaeda as they are about Syria’s proxy — Hezbollah — in Lebanon?

I think the Syrians are supplying Hezbollah with more than mere moral support — especially since Hezbollah militias are fighting in Syria alongside the Syrian government.

I don’t think we have a dog in this fight, but Israel certainly does.

I think it’s Iran that’s supplying both Hezbollah and Syria. We should be supporting Israel instead of pressuring them to withdraw from the Golan Heights.

kcewa on August 25, 2013 at 9:20 PM

SparkPlug on August 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Iron.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM

hahaha Iron wood. Good answer. (:

SparkPlug on August 25, 2013 at 9:20 PM

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Thanks for posting that.

Midas on August 25, 2013 at 9:23 PM

SparkPlug on August 25, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Beautiful stuff to turn not burn. ; )

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I do not trust Chuck Hagel at all…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Not too smitten with the cat at CIA head either.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Midas on August 25, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Yanked some tears out of me.

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Not sure if you are interested, a friend from over at FN did this. Credit him and FN and he won’t have any issues with you using it. His nom is pcrdds. Made me laugh anyway. ; )

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Also, she doesn’t always speak in words. :)

Had a feeling.

https://twitter.com/SophieRo3/status/371799231993884672/photo/1

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 9:32 PM

bazil9 on August 25, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Feel Good Story of the Day!!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:33 PM

NEW!!! DOD: Founding Fathers, Christians, Those Concerned With Liberty Are ‘Extremists’ & Aren’t Welcome In The Military

Resist We Much on August 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM

This boggles the mind:

“In U.S. history, there are many examples of extremist ideologies and movements. The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule and the Confederate states who sought to secede from the Northern states are just two examples,” according to the training guide.

Military officers swear to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. It appears there are those within the DOD who want to encourage sed!t!on with this bit of smearing propaganda.

INC on August 25, 2013 at 9:34 PM

NEW!!! DOD: Founding Fathers, Christians, Those Concerned With Liberty Are ‘Extremists’ & Aren’t Welcome In The Military

Resist We Much on August 25, 2013 at 8:22 PM

This boggles the mind:

“In U.S. history, there are many examples of extremist ideologies and movements. The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule and the Confederate states who sought to $ecede from the Northern states are just two examples,” according to the training guide.

Military officers swear to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. It appears there are those within the DOD who want to encourage sed!t!on with this bit of smearing propaganda.

INC on August 25, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Evidently $ecede can’t make it through the filter. Or was it sedition?

INC on August 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 9:32 PM

; ) One of these days I have got to figure out the whole tweety thingy. Good news on a separate front also. Consolidation has begun in earnest. Soon. ; )

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Just like Zimmerman. Another killer gets away with murdering an innocent black honor student.

cozmo on August 25, 2013 at 9:38 PM

bazil9 on August 25, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Just like Zimmerman. Another killer gets away with murdering an innocent black honor student.

cozmo on August 25, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Evenin! Happy weekend. I know about EG-but what’s up w/ C and CL?
*I was under the weather last night and didn’t blog.*

annoyinglittletwerp on August 25, 2013 at 9:39 PM

About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria’s civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.

Count me in the 60%.

conservative pilgrim on August 25, 2013 at 9:39 PM

INC on August 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

secede

annoyinglittletwerp on August 25, 2013 at 9:39 PM

INC on August 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

It was the first one. Just tried it.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM

At this point, a prolonged stalemate is the only outcome that would not be damaging to American interests.

Indeed. One option that never gets discussed is doing nothing and letting the animals figure it out without one side of terrorists or the other getting US assistance. Of course McCain and Graham couldn’t stand not being on any of the shows this weekend and decided to issue a statement in favor of intervention.

I say they should go in as a team of two and see just how much they can accomplish.

Happy Nomad on August 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on August 25, 2013 at 9:39 PM

They are brothers who lost their Dad.

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

As we have documented for well over a year, the inevitability of a chemical weapons attack has been consistently hyped by the media despite the fact that by engaging in such actions, the Assad regime would guarantee international condemnation and create a casus belli for its own destruction.

anotherJoe on August 25, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Assad regime is not by any shape or form one coherent entity all working under the order of Assad himself. It is a group of gangs made mainly of Alawites (Alawite is Assad religion) who want to hold into power and kill as many Sunni as they can thinking that this will terrorize the Sunni into submission… The Shabiha which is the most ruthless Alawite militia is now the most effective fighting force in the pro-regime coalition and it is literally a gang in all the meaning of the world, consider them the Al Qaeda of the Alawite… So it is possible that one of the gangs, in particular a Shabiha gang launched the Chemical attack without Assad directly ordering it or even knowing about it…

mnjg on August 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

conservative pilgrim on August 25, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Ditto. Get the Christian-and any Jews if they still exist there-out and let the b%stards kill each other.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

INC on August 25, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Was just out retweeting her thing on that. It’s nuts. But you’d expect the established government to look at ne’er-do-wells like the revolutionaries that founded the country in a bad light. Assuming the established government didn’t think of itself as allied to their work, anyway.

; ) One of these days I have got to figure out the whole tweety thingy. Good news on a separate front also. Consolidation has begun in earnest. Soon. ; )

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

:)

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Feel Good Story of the Day!!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Fo sure.
25 mins from me, or so.

bazil9 on August 25, 2013 at 9:42 PM

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

i know who they are-but I didn’t know they were brothers.
Prayers.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Evidently $ecede can’t make it through the filter. Or was it sedition?

INC on August 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

No talk of session de suc allowed.

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 9:43 PM

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