New climate change hearings called by … Republicans?

posted at 11:01 am on August 25, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Coming in September to a congressional chamber near you, (assuming you’re in DC) another round of hearings on climate change. But this one has a twist.

House Republicans have summoned the leaders of 13 federal agencies to a hearing next month to examine their plans to implement a sweeping climate change agenda that President Obama outlined in a June speech.

Organized by the Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Power, the Sept. 18 hearing seeks information “from relevant federal agencies about U.S. climate change policies and the administration’s second-term climate agenda, and to obtain fuller information regarding the federal government’s past, current and planned domestic and international activities, climate research programs, initiatives, and new regulatory requirements,” said subcommittee Chairman Edward Whitfield (R-Ky.).

The laundry list of agencies summoned by Whitfield to testify is available at the link and it’s pretty much everyone in the upper levels of government outside of the military. The LA Times chooses to describe this as a final chance, “to wrest a measure of control over the administration’s climate change agenda” but I’m not sure that’s an accurate analysis. There’s no need to take control of the President’s climate agenda because it can’t be done, absent having a new president. But this could still be an important opportunity to expand the conversation, which has been almost entirely one sided to date.

Since the president came out with his call for “market-based legislation to reduce emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases” the committee has an opportunity to put an official spotlight on the first phrase in that requirement. The fact is, “market-based” and “reduce emissions” don’t generally collide in the same sentence, and this could be a chance to get all of the government experts to weigh in on exactly what the costs are, not only in direct federal dollars, but in jobs lost and increased prices at the pump and in taxpayers’ heating and utility bills. I get the feeling that Whitfield is playing a longer game here than some are giving him credit for.


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I think ONE of the points is to expose the illegality of unilateral new ‘legislation through regulation’.

This is the opening shot across various agencies to let them know that they do have limits.

Freddy on August 25, 2013 at 11:05 AM

…they want to expose the bullsh!t…

KOOLAID2 on August 25, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Hey, the GOP is the group of genius that saved us from the evils of the incandescent light bulbs.

Flange on August 25, 2013 at 11:11 AM

They should have all those called do a report on the facts on line at http://www.wattsupwiththat.com.

Each of them should have to prove that the facts set out there are incorrect, and if not they should not be allowed to proceed with the lies, fraud and baseless operations of wealth restribution they intend to use.

All of it is lie based.

Just like the rest of the commie Democrat agendas.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Know thine enemy.

OldEnglish on August 25, 2013 at 11:16 AM

It is a “con”.

We are the “marks”.

Just say no.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Of all the idiotic liberal pet projects/power grabs/con jobs, climate change has to be the most transparently absurd of all. If you can believe that liberal politicians, who cannot fix the nation’s economy, can steer the trajectory of the planet’s climate, you really will believe anything.

crrr6 on August 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Politicians being politicians being political. Where there’s billions of taxpayer money potentially available, all principle seems to so easily fly away to the careerists. In both parties.

Politicians being politicians. When there’s taxpayer money and fame and votes, therein you’ll find every last one of them.

Lourdes on August 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Al Gore and more than a few Hollywood types have the young and impressionable all riled up about “the environment” and they’re the ones who make the most noise to DC and get, eventually, all these scams going using everyone else’s money (and time and resources…and Rights).

Just make a big movie and claim ‘the end is near’ and it’s all because of hair spray and styrafoam cups and boats on the oceans and the heartache of all those “sea kittens”…and, presto, crises is “real”.

Being one who has studied biology, I was originally also drawn to alleged “environmental protection” groups until I devoted just a bit of time to look into who these groups actually are and what they’re up to. The Sierra Club, for starters and all the rest that are easily recognized today — front groups for a huge amount of media and money hustling for the DNC AND for Communist/Marxist goals among other things. It’s shocking when you look into them…

But most of college age youth and gullible, naive voters don’t look into them and they fund them out of outrage over trees being harvested and dirty streams and such that ARE or can be problems so these surface issues suck people in. And few look under the covers where these groups, and especially Al Gore, are concerned.

I was doing recycling and two 18 yr. old college age females approached for the same purpose and were congratulating one another loudly and proudly about the environmental groups they’d recently joined. You could tell they were rather wholesome girls and it was a shame to see them so gullible.

Lourdes on August 25, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Don’t know what to think. This *could* be a face-palm moment (as the polar bear suggests), or it *could* be an opportunity to wrest some control from the nutters on the enviroleft.

But that would be to place some faith in the GOP doing the right thing, and the well from whence I used to draw that faith is bone dry.

Midas on August 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I read something on twitter the other day about some democrats complaining about these hearings, calling them sham hearings.

supernova on August 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM

pretty much everyone in the upper levels of government outside of the military

The military is included, too. Here is the list from the link:

Whitfield has invited testimony from the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Energy, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Department of Agriculture, the Department of the Interior, the Department of Transportation, the Department of Defense, the Department of State, the U.S. Agency for International Development, the Export-Import Bank of the U.S., the Office of Science and Technology, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

This should give the congress a very clear picture on where each department is headed in regards to climate change ‘mitigation’. I wonder if any of these agencies will turn down the invitation to give testimony. Either of their own accord, or at the behest of The One. He may not want to give congress a heads-up on anything he may have in mind for his control over the energy industry.

Patriot Vet on August 25, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Considering the GOP members and vice chair of the committee, this could get real bloody, and potential funding of agencies could be put into question in appropriations.

Kermit on August 25, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Hey, the GOP is the group of genius that saved us from the evils of the incandescent light bulbs.

Flange on August 25, 2013 at 11:11 AM

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Great … you had to bring that up …………………

….. though you are, of course, exactly correct. : (

listens2glenn on August 25, 2013 at 11:39 AM

and potential funding of agencies could be put into question in appropriations.

I love that kind of humor.

lowandslow on August 25, 2013 at 11:41 AM

But that would be to place some faith in the GOP doing the right thing, and the well from whence I used to draw that faith is bone dry.

Midas on August 25, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I tend to doubt that even the GOP is stupid enough to think that there’s some upside to throwing in with the enviro-freaks. The reason that Gore and his clerics are getting so shrill of late is that science is catching up with their religion and people are leaving their church in droves.

crrr6 on August 25, 2013 at 11:45 AM

If these Luddites really believed in this Mother Earth religion, they’d be mobilizing the army to put out the Rim fire right now.

John the Libertarian on August 25, 2013 at 11:46 AM

OT – I believe that MSN reads your emails, too. My wife’s sister emailed people about attending Miss Saigon in DC in September. I didn’t do any internet search of Miss Saigon, so it isn’t Google. I only opened an email in on MSN with the header as Miss Saigon. They are at least reading the headers of my emails to push things my way, which is total BS!

Patriot Vet on August 25, 2013 at 11:47 AM

New climate change hearings called by … Republicans Big gov loving Progressives with a “republican” mask?

The gop isn’t an opposition party, they are an ENABLING party.

They might as well walk around with one of these like this NEA gal in this photo.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/371313622602895360/photo/1/large

PappyD61 on August 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM

This is the opening shot across various agencies to let them know that they do have limits.

Freddy on August 25, 2013 at 11:05 AM

And I’m sure they’re quaking in their jackboots.

If I were a committed Leftist ensconced within any of these federal agencies, I’d be laughing my as* off.

rrpjr on August 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

If these Luddites really believed in this Mother Earth religion, they’d be mobilizing the army to put out the Rim fire right now.

John the Libertarian on August 25, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Rim Fire and San Francisco,wow.

docflash on August 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

THe GOP today has a lot in common with the US military of the late 1920s, directionless, leaderless, and mission-less, and a skeleton crew pretending to fight wood tanks with wood rifles, really a shadow of its former self.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

While this could be an effort to identify and expose some of the excesses being pushed by the hard progressive Obama Administration – to the point of gaining ammunition to support turning off a lot of the funding to those initiatives in the next FY budget – what is sitting in the back of my mind the worry that this is just another case where the GOP has decided that being progressive-lite is the path they need to take to win elections.

This Administration has already established that they don’t care what the GOP House says or does – they will do what they want to do. The GOP House has already proven that beyond some bluster – they will not follow through on their threats – and when faced by extortion from the Democrats / Administration – they will surrender faster than the French did in June 1940.

Athos on August 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Bets on how long it takes Oakie to show up?

slickwillie2001 on August 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

“Yes,….but ours go to 11″

-Algore

WryTrvllr on August 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

And the RINO statement at the end will be “Oh. OK. Carry on.”

TfromV on August 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Heh. Where’d you guys get that polar bear facepalm pic? Too funny.

Cleombrotus on August 25, 2013 at 1:01 PM

“U.S. Rep. Ed Whitfield, (KY-01), Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Energy and Power, joined with several coal miners at the Equality Boot Surface Coal Mine this week to talk about President Obama’s efforts to eliminate coal production in America.

“If the President and his Administration were truly committed to making America a magnet for jobs, they would not be determined to hike electricity costs in the name of reducing carbon emissions, especially when man-made carbon only accounts for 3.8 percent of all global carbon emissions,” Whitfield said. “This will adversely affect everyday families and job creators alike, such as those working in the coal mines.”

Whitfield went on to say, “These are decisions that should be made in public with debate in the Unites States Congress”

Viator on August 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM

“market-based” means “carbon-tax”.

Maybe they can ask these officials about their illegal use of private email accounts in the attempt to avoid public oversight?

The only advantage of getting them to talk to congress is that they’ll have less time to carry out their official duties as environmental bigots.

virgo on August 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM

The “two party evil money cult in Washington D.C.” will just make more money out of this via the lobbist they all work for now.

ie: “This Town” the book that sets out the facts on how the “con” us run.

They raise “re-election” money off keeping this problem in existance.

The worse the problem, the more re-election money they raise.

We have to take the money and power away, sort of a reverse of the redistribution they have had going their way for way to long.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM

“If the President and his Administration were truly committed to making America a magnet for jobs, they would not be determined to hike electricity costs in the name of reducing carbon emissions, especially when man-made carbon only accounts for 3.8 percent of all global carbon emissions,” Whitfield said. “This will adversely affect everyday families and job creators alike, such as those working in the coal mines.”

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It remains my contention that their estimates of our man-made carbon output is way high.

The persons at the very head of the “environmental panic” movement don’t care anyway, whether we’re causing the earth a problem, or not.

Their agenda is to disable, and disolve these United States … period.

listens2glenn on August 25, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Antarctic sea ice at a record high: http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/08/24/antarctic-sea-ice-extent-at-record-high/
What we’ve seen over the last decades is regional variations with declines in Arctic ice coupled with increasing Antarctic ice. But now we also see near record cold this summer in the Arctic, and Arctic ice trending towards the highest minimum for 7 years: http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/observation_images/ssmi1_ice_area.png

anotherJoe on August 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

It remains my contention that their estimates of our man-made carbon output is way high.

The persons at the very head of the “environmental panic” movement don’t care anyway, whether we’re causing the earth a problem, or not.

Their agenda is to disable, and disolve these United States … period.

listens2glenn on August 25, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Just wait…now that the first round of industrial facilities have accounted for greenhouse gases in their Air Permits the enviros will be using their “potential to emit” numbers instead of what is actually occurring. PTE is generally based off of 8,760 hours of operation at maximum capacity. It is impossible to run at maximum for every hour of an entire year. Alas, if an industrial facility has been permitted for GHGs the enviros will be pointing to their “potential” to emit CO2 as what they are actually pumping out.

weaselyone on August 25, 2013 at 1:28 PM

thread check

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 25, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I tend to doubt that even the GOP is stupid enough to think that there’s some upside to throwing in with the enviro-freaks.

crrr6 on August 25, 2013 at 11:45 AM

The mandated diversion of the corn crop to ethanol production screams stupid.

wolfsDad on August 25, 2013 at 1:59 PM

If I wanted America to fail …

D-Bar on August 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

the Barton committee was the first real break in the wall of the Hockey Stick..and a glimpse behind the curtain of what the ‘scientists’ were up to.

When the R took control of the House Barton wanted to stay on…but, no, old light-bulb Upton was tapped by Boehner.

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r keller on August 25, 2013 at 2:49 PM

I tend to doubt that even the GOP is stupid enough to think that there’s some upside to throwing in with the enviro-freaks.

crrr6 on August 25, 2013 at 11:45 AM

The mandated diversion of the corn crop to ethanol production screams stupid.

wolfsDad on August 25, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Re: what wolfsDad wrote…

I commented frequently and often BEFORE the diversion of corn crop to ethanol production was “mandated” that the result would be what it has become…to no avail.

I have so far said PRIOR to these ghastly alterations taking effect, that they’d have ghastly results and explained some of what those ghastly results would likely be.

And so far, I’ve always been right. And ignored by DC.

Lourdes on August 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Antarctic sea ice at a record high: http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/08/24/antarctic-sea-ice-extent-at-record-high/
What we’ve seen over the last decades is regional variations with declines in Arctic ice coupled with increasing Antarctic ice. But now we also see near record cold this summer in the Arctic, and Arctic ice trending towards the highest minimum for 7 years: http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/observation_images/ssmi1_ice_area.png

anotherJoe on August 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Lower level biology classes on the college level were instructing that another Ice Age was impending and that was several decades ago (at least) that that was the going science.

Ice Age, not Burn Age. Science has long argued out and proven that the Earth cools itself down once a greenhouse effect begins.

An Ice Age is caused by increased fresh water in the North Atlantic. It disturbs the ocean currents (less and less warm water is pushed into the North Atlantic from the South Atlantic/Caribbean) and the Earth begins to (rapidly) cool, then ices.

And at it’s worst, the process proceeds to a “snowball Earth” effect where the entire planet freezes over. Which HAS happened in the past and it’s proven science that it has.

So, all Al Gore’s creepy ranting about it getting hotter and hotter is misleading like just about everything else Gore says.

Like I said, as to academics, in REAL scientific academics, what’s accepted theory if not fact is that the Earth is in the early process of another Ice Age. That’s been taught in biology classes in college/universities for decades now. It’s just that Al Gore can’t make more millions if he lets that get out to the general public. And Sociology and Psychology and Women’s Studies majors don’t take those Biological Science classes….

Lourdes on August 25, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Hearings are useful inasmuch as they can bring to light some of the executive actions being enforced quietly through the agencies, and perhaps delay the implementation somewhat.

Anything that slows down the Obama dictatorial regime is a positive.

Here again: elections matter. Those who stayed home in ’08 or ’12 because McCain or Romney weren’t their preference contributed to the election of Obama, and need to recognize their responsibility.

Those who claim there was “no difference” are complete idiots.

Adjoran on August 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM

But now we also see near record cold this summer in the Arctic, and Arctic ice trending towards the highest minimum for 7 years: http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/observation_images/ssmi1_ice_area.png

anotherJoe on August 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Well, we certainly don’t want the Arctic to ice up too much – that would make the earth top heavy – and it might capsize…. /Hank Johnson

dentarthurdent on August 25, 2013 at 3:53 PM

The cover of September’s National Geographic shows the Statue of Liberty halfway submerged in water.

Rising Seas

As the planet warms, the sea rises. Coastlines flood. What will we protect? What will we abandon? How will we face the danger of rising seas?

*shaking my head*

I thought Obama stopped this…

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/09/rising-seas/folger-text

Fallon on August 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM

“…and to obtain fuller information regarding the federal government’s past, current and planned domestic and international activities, climate research programs, initiatives, and new regulatory requirements,” said subcommittee Chairman Edward Whitfield (R-Ky.).

I actually think this is a great opportunity to debunk their junk science/Socialist agenda, but “fuller information“?????? Is that grammatically correct? I bet a gazillion whatevs the answer is: HELL NO.

Buy Danish on August 25, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Dear leader is runnin’ out of transforming time and must move faster. Hope the Farmers Almanac is correct about a really cold winter this year so the weather can blow some holes in this fraud. Guess I’d better get busy and cut some more fire wood.

Kissmygrits on August 26, 2013 at 9:39 AM

The people of Tennessee have never questioned Gore’s intentions as they are very clear. What they do question is his sanity. Little known fact: If Gore had carried his home state of Tennessee in the 2000 presidential election, Florida’s vote would have been irrelevant and Gore would have been president. Thank you, Tennessee. Gore has always refused to present facts to support the lunacy of climate change. Instead, he just attacks by calling names and hurling insults. Sound familiar? He is living proof liberalism is a progressive mental disorder and he is in the latter stages.

volsense on August 26, 2013 at 5:47 PM

FINALLY: EPA admits that economic growth and prosperity are clean!

Terp Mole on August 28, 2013 at 11:23 AM