Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on August 24, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

“Do I think he’s a civil rights leader? No,” said Al Sharpton, who has become close to Obama in part because they are of the same post-movement generation. “I think he’d be the first person to tell you that.”

So when Obama settles into King’s footsteps at the base of the Lincoln Memorial on Wednesday, half a century after the 1963 March on Washington, black leaders will be listening not for the inspirational rhetoric of a civil rights icon but for the substance of a president.

“Those are two different roles,” said Jesse Jackson, who has had his differences with Obama. “What we needed from Dr. King was motivation and vision. What we need from the president is appropriation and legislation.”

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Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) — who was the youngest speaker during the March on Washington in 1963 — delivered a passionate address about the importance of protecting voting rights at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial fifty years later, as thousands gathered to celebrate the anniversary of the historic event on Saturday.

“When I stood here 50 years ago, I said one man, one vote is the African cry. It is ours, too. it must be ours,” he began, before connecting the demands of 1963 to today’s struggles. “Almost 50 years ago, I gave a little blood on that bridge in Selma, Alabama, for the right to vote. I am not going to stand by and let the Supreme Court take the right to vote away from us!”

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Eric Holder, the nation’s first black attorney general, said he would not be in office, nor would Barack Obama be president, without those who marched.

“They marched in spite of animosity, oppression and brutality because they believed in the greatness of what this nation could become and despaired of the founding promises not kept,” Holder said.

Holder mentioned gays and Latinos, women and the disabled as those who had yet to fully realize Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream. Others in the crowd advocated organized labor, voting rights, revamping immigration policies and access to local post offices.

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“The task is not done, the journey is not complete,” [Martin Luther King III] said. “The vision preached by my father a half-century ago was that his four little children would no longer live in a nation where they would judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

“However, sadly, the tears of Trayvon Martin’s mother and father remind us that, far too frequently, the color of one’s skin remains a license to profile, to arrest and to even murder with no regard for the content of one’s character,” he said, calling for “stand your ground” self-defense laws to be repealed in states where they have been enacted.

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Referencing King’s quote in his “I Have A Dream” speech about America giving people “a check that has come back marked ‘insufficient funds,’” Sharpton called for action to make lawmakers take notice about the financial disparity in the United States.

“We’ve re-deposited the check. Well, guess what? It bounced again. But this time it was marked stop payment,” he said, addressing Congress with his words. “We’re going to make you make the check good or we’re going to close down the bank.”

***

Kevin Moore, 47, said he came with about 60 people from Columbus, Ohio, to urge unity in Congress.

“I figure is we come out and unite and show we’re serious. There’s gonna be change,” he said, a bright yellow “Support Trayvon’s Law” in his hands.

Mr. Moore said he was holding his sign, made by the NAACP, because the slaying of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin “hit close to home.”

“It could have been our child,” he said.

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– Bye peeps. :)

*puts Sophie Ro’s empty plate back into cabinet*

*blows out candle*

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 1:52 AM

I don’t understand why it isn’t more popular that it is.
:(

predator on August 25, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Agreed..It is a shame..We could spend a whole thread on that..Many reasons imho..:(:(

Dire Straits on August 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Nite Axe

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Dire Straits on August 25, 2013 at 1:50 AM

The ‘chit cat’? lol! You haven’t been sampling the rum supply, have you Captain Dire?

thatsafactjack on August 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Axe on August 25, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Goodnight, Axefellow.:) Sleep well.

thatsafactjack on August 25, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Agreed..It is a shame..We could spend a whole thread on that..Many reasons imho..:(:(

Dire Straits on August 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Yep. Anybody who has not been to a live race has no idea what they’re missing. Oh well, their loss.

predator on August 25, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Gary Numan – “Me! I Disconnect From You”

Anti-Control on August 25, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Alright… I have to go back to work… take care. :)

thatsafactjack on August 25, 2013 at 1:56 AM

Thanks Dire and Pred! will chat more about this. Calling it a night!

KCB on August 25, 2013 at 1:56 AM

Horse racing is pretty cool. They have a track across the river. I went to the greyhound track when I lived in KC. Made a little money there too.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 1:56 AM

Otay, pipples. I gotta hit the rack. 9:00 tee time tomorrow, and I won today, so they’ll be gunnin’ for me.

Y’all stay cool and stay safe. God Bless the lot of you.

‘Night.

predator on August 25, 2013 at 1:57 AM

Bmore,

Thanks for the info. I made a jig fence that can be positioned very accurately. Also a sled that needs to slide across a work table so a workpiece can have a close encounter with a mean and nasty cutting tool.

SparkPlug on August 25, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Ciao pred and jackie.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 1:58 AM

I already know how this is going to come across, but I have to share it anyway. This is absurd. Who would John Lewis be if he weren’t known as a “civil rights leader?” What, exactly have John Lewis, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or even Barack Obama actually done in life, other than agitate for more of something for nothing.

John Lewis (whom I’ve followed for a long time), says,

“I am not going to stand by and let the Supreme Court take the right to vote away from us!”

John, how much harder is it to get an ID than it is to apply for public assistance? An Obamacare waiver? Subsidized housing? Who said you couldn’t vote? What we’d like to know is that you only vote once and in a jurisdiction where you actually live.

Is that too much to ask, after 50 years of feathering your own nest from the suffering of others?

IndieDogg on August 25, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Coffee, bring on the dawn.

Murphy9 on August 25, 2013 at 2:02 AM

thatsafactjack on August 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM

Enjoyed the chit chat as always..:)

Dire Straits on August 25, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Sorry..Fixed.:)

Dire Straits on August 25, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Dire Straits on August 25, 2013 at 1:50 AM

The ‘chit cat’? lol! You haven’t been sampling the rum supply, have you Captain Dire?

thatsafactjack on August 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Not really..Bad typing skills..:)

Dire Straits on August 25, 2013 at 2:07 AM

They ROCKED The CITY!!

:)

Montrose – “Rock the Nation [not just the city]

I lived around the corner from The Neville Brothers………I played Blues Harp with them in public a few times…….I also had some interesting experiences with Art and Cyril and Charles that I’d rather not talk about here………..they were like “the neighborhood band”…….that Mick Jagger and Keith Richards loved and liked to visit and jam with……along with Van Morrison and a few more incredible musicians…..

williamg on August 25, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Awesome!

Anti-Control on August 25, 2013 at 2:11 AM

For Dire:

The Honey Bees – “You Need Us”

Bonus:

“Race with the Devil” movie trailer

Anti-Control on August 25, 2013 at 2:22 AM

“It could have been our child,” he said.

Are you a crappy parent, too?

Moesart on August 25, 2013 at 2:52 AM

I am surprised to see a QOTD thread dealing with race issues. It had seemed like racial topics were strictly verboten on this blog.

bluegill on August 25, 2013 at 2:57 AM

I already know how this is going to come across, but I have to share it anyway. This is absurd. Who would John Lewis be if he weren’t known as a “civil rights leader?” What, exactly have John Lewis, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or even Barack Obama actually done in life, other than agitate for more of something for nothing.

John Lewis (whom I’ve followed for a long time), says,

“I am not going to stand by and let the Supreme Court take the right to vote away from us!”

John, how much harder is it to get an ID than it is to apply for public assistance? An Obamacare waiver? Subsidized housing? Who said you couldn’t vote? What we’d like to know is that you only vote once and in a jurisdiction where you actually live.

Is that too much to ask, after 50 years of feathering your own nest from the suffering of others?

IndieDogg on August 25, 2013 at 2:01 AM

As it turns out, the 92 year old woman in NC they’ve used as someone who would be “oppressed” by voter ID laws because her Drivers License and birth certificate have different names isn’t oppressed at all. If her voter registration is in the BC name, she can have her DL changed at DMV for free or the BC & voter registration changed to match the DL for free by mail.

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Of course the “civil rights movement” has evolved into the “civil rights industry,” inciting people to ever-greater demands and beleaguering governments to grant them.

One correction: Lewis was involved in the CR movement, but I am unaware of anything of note Jackson, Sharpton, or Obama ever did for civil rights other than pretend to have been part of the movement.

Adjoran on August 25, 2013 at 3:00 AM

I am surprised to see a QOTD thread dealing with race issues. It had seemed like racial topics were strictly verboten on this blog.

bluegill on August 25, 2013 at 2:57 AM

I hope you learned your lesson about jumping to conclusions…

Anti-Control on August 25, 2013 at 3:12 AM

I hope you learned your lesson about jumping to conclusions…
Anti-Control on August 25, 2013 at 3:12 AM

What lesson?? What do you mean?

bluegill on August 25, 2013 at 4:08 AM

bluegill on August 25, 2013 at 4:08 AM

Think about it…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 4:11 AM

Christien on August 24, 2013 at 10:35 PM

 
If you’re still reading this, I’m sorry. You’re going through one of the hardest parts of your life right now. Make it through and other stuff seems easier.
 
Write down everything you can remember. All of it. Good and bad, vacations, breakfast cereals, where he sat while he read the newspaper on Sunday mornings, everything. Keep it where you can find it so when something reminds you of him you can write down why.
 
We forget the little things quickly, but the little things are what most of our memories are.

rogerb on August 25, 2013 at 6:35 AM

Think about it…

OmahaConservative on August 25, 2013 at 4:11 AM

Seeing her response,

What lesson?? What do you mean?

I am betting against a positive result! :)

Anti-Control on August 25, 2013 at 7:24 AM

I believe the event that made the Civil Rights Movement successful was Dr. King’s speech at the Lincoln Memorial. He spoke eloquently and powerfully to all people and not with hate or with vengeance.

If White Southerners hadn’t changed their attitudes then the Civil Rights Movement would have failed no matter what Washington dictated. The vast majority of them started thinking that the way blacks were treated was not right, was not Christian, was not American. It takes time for people to change their views and to come around and also key personalities who speak up at the right time.

The Dixiecrat mentality enslaved not only blacks but white Americans on the lower economic tiers in the South. The Civil Rights Movement wasn’t important just for Blacks, but also for Whites. Without this movement I don’t think the development of the Sun Belt would have taken place. Until the power of the Dixiecrats was broken, there was little opportunity and poor education and living standards for both races.

Remember the War Between the States and the main reason the Confederacy lost? The North had ten times the industry, ships, wealth and railroads, and many more men. Immigrants had no reason to go to the Old South because there was no opportunity there. The best land was controlled by the Dixiecrats as was most of the wealth. If you wanted a job in a factory or land to settle and you were coming over from Europe, the best choice was to book passage for New York, Boston or Philadelphia…not Savannah, New Orleans or Charleston.

This didn’t change until the 1970s. That’s astounding.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 25, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Got the blues, y’all. Lost Dad today after a long, long battle. He was a devout Christian, Maj. Gen. USAFR, lifelong Republican, and much more.

:(

Condolences.

He was a devout Christian, Maj. Gen. USAFR, lifelong Republican, and much more. I can’t express how proud I am to be his son.

Christien on August 24, 2013 at 10:35 PM

:)

Anti-Control on August 24, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Fixed.

Anti-Control on August 25, 2013 at 7:38 AM

The problems of the black community cannot be solved with money.

…….but black leaders don’t want to solve those problems. Because they enjoy the need to be needed and a place at the table of political power, and that would be lost if blacks didn’t need them.

So behold members of the black national family. You have new plantation owners (the Progressive Democrats) and they have their foreman and supervisors (Sharpton / Jackson / MLK III) and you’re STILL not free after all these years.

You just have a different master.

Get off the plantation. The gates are open, but YOU have to take off the shackles!

PappyD61 on August 25, 2013 at 7:39 AM

However, sadly, the tears of Trayvon Martin’s mother and father remind us that, far too frequently, the color of one’s skin remains a license to profile, to arrest and to even murder with no regard for the content of one’s character,” he said

When I read that quote I thought maybe he was referring to a white boy who was brutally beaten by three black punks, or maybe he was referring to two black cowards who shot an innocent white man in the back, or possibly two black POS who beat an old man to death for a few bucks, but no he was referring to a white man who shot a black thug instead of getting beat to death himself.

Black whining is really getting old. They’re preaching to the blacks who have chosen not to do anything productive with their lives. They’re also preaching for the benefit of a willing media that continues to give them a platform for whatever reason.

cajunpatriot on August 25, 2013 at 7:46 AM

If there was one speech that came from a true leader, it wasn’t on that stage yesterday. If the black community wants to talk about Trayvon Martin and avoid talking about Oklahoma and Washington State, they’re missing the whole point.

After what happened in those 2 places, how are we to believe that Trayvon Martin was just some innocent 17 year old out buying Skittles and Mountain Dew? If the black community doesn’t address the last 2 problems, there will be many more of the first.

If people like Sharpton and Jackson don’t believe that the murder of an octogenarian WWII vet doesn’t hit home with White people, he’s living in a world so far removed from civilized society that you can’t communicate with him.

Personally, I’m amazed that they could have a gathering, honoring the 50th Anniversary of the March on Washington, and not talk about that. What leadership would consciously avoid talking about out and out murder, and yet devote time to someone who actually protected himself from that same culture?

This reality is going to hit home.

bflat879 on August 25, 2013 at 7:58 AM

Being able to move on is the biggest step in the civil rights movement.

tomas on August 25, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Blessed Sabbath, Patriots! F

reedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

- Ronald Reagan
“We’re All “Extremists” Now” My take.

kingsjester on August 25, 2013 at 9:15 AM

What leadership wouldn’t talk about the murders by blacks of whites? A leadership that loves their position of power and wants to keep the checks coming in. Sharpton has done nothing ‘for’ blacks but has done everything for himself. He’s nothing but a con artist and tax cheat, Rev. Jackson is a strong arm thug in the order of a union boss. He has reaped as he has sown, his son and namesake is in prison. All of those so called black leaders have sold out their people for a cushy govt political position. We could all say the same thing about the majority of our leaders. Stand your ground was not used or was pertinent to the Zimmerman case. The lsm brought it into the limelight and the foot soldiers of the left took it up. All voting laws need to be tightened. No more same day registration or voting by provisional ballot.

Kissmygrits on August 25, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Delbert could have been my father. He could have been the president’s grandfather. Those thugs would have wet their pants and called for their momma if they had to endure what that vet went through in WW2. The entitlement crowd wouldn’t have survived those years, either, when rationing was imposed and times were tough. You didn’t get as much to eat unless you grew it yourself. What has happened to us, indeed.

Kissmygrits on August 25, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Trayvon Martin was judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.

Dandapani on August 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM

“We’re All “Extremists” Now” My take.

kingsjester on August 25, 2013 at 9:15 AM

…it’s getting out of hand!

KOOLAID2 on August 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM

I am surprised to see a QOTD thread dealing with race issues. It had seemed like racial topics were strictly verboten on this blog.

blueballs on August 25, 2013 at 2:57 AM

…you’re dyslexic…. darling!

KOOLAID2 on August 25, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2013 at 12:39 AM

Got it. ; ) Good looking Dyna, schweet price.

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Trayvon Martin was judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.

Dandapani on August 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM

+10!

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 25, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Kevin Moore, 47, said he came with about 60 people from Columbus, Ohio, to urge unity in Congress.

“I figure is we come out and unite and show we’re serious. There’s gonna be change,” he said, a bright yellow “Support Trayvon’s Law” in his hands.

Mr. Moore said he was holding his sign, made by the NAACP, because the slaying of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin “hit close to home.”

“It could have been our child,” he said.

DAMNIT, this bullshit just infuriates me.

Are these people actually this willfully ignorant of reality? Seriously, if this is their reality, there’s no hope left for any kind of reconciliation. This is going to end very badly, and very messily. This isn’t just an ‘agree to disagree’ reality anymore – great swathes of our populace are simply hopelessly out of touch with reality – through the looking glass, altered-states-type delusional thinking. Reality and facts simply are unable to penetrate their consciousness any longer (if that was ever possible – maybe I was foolishly naive to ever think it was the case), and the exact polar opposite is what drives them.

I lose hope more every day of there being any amicable way for this country to pull back together without ripping ourselves apart and losing significant percentages of the populace in the process.

We’re f*cked. Irretrievably f*cked.

Midas on August 25, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Yup.

Unless something reeealll serious happens in the black community, it’s gonna get worse. Imagine when that 70% illegitimacy rate hits puberty without positive male role models or authority figures in their lives counseling self-control and self-respect.

You’re gonna get loads of this

Cleombrotus on August 25, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Bmore on August 25, 2013 at 10:11 AM

That’s not ours, I just used it for the illustration. Ours are only in VA ads, which I think is dumb. At least should be be on Craigslist.

Cindy Munford on August 25, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Unless something reeealll serious happens in the black community, it’s gonna get worse. Cleombrotus on August 25, 2013 at 11:02 AM

They’re out numbered and surrounded.

Akzed on August 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM

I guess I’m just some extremist but I don’t see how asking someone to present an id in order to vote takes away anyone’s vote. You have to show your voter registration card where I live, and you can’t get one of those without an id.

scalleywag on August 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Evidence suggests murder of Memphis nurse was ‘for Trayvon’ shooting

Akzed on August 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Okay, I’m not going to read everyone else’s comments first. I’ll post my thoughts, and then head back through and read up. I only listened in to the last couple of hours of this event, and to be honest what I heard was pretty sickening to me. The whole thing seemed to be about how racism is so alive and well today! They used, abused, and distorted the Trayvon/Zimmerman case in a disgusting way, basically saying that Zimmerman stalked and shot Trayvon down like a dog. Do not ANY of them realize and remember that it was TRAYVON who did the attacking? That Zimmerman was jumped, hammered to the ground, and proceeded to be pounded on? And their hauling out the SYG laws again (which “their people” disproportionately USE and get away with) when the case had NOTHING to do with SYG…and ALL about self-defense? They were talking about a nation within a nation, for crying out loud, separating America into total communities, rather than accepting us as one NATIONAL WHOLE! I sincerely hope the whole event was not like that last parts of it that I heard, because if it was, it was all one giant racist orgy of hatred.

Okay…I’ve said my bit, now time to read up and catch up with what everyone else thought.

Highlar on August 25, 2013 at 11:00 PM

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