Guilty on all counts: Nidal Hasan faces death for Fort Hood shootings

posted at 2:41 pm on August 23, 2013 by Allahpundit

One of the easiest convictions in U.S. history, with the only hitch being how premeditated the killings were. (Answer: Pretty premeditated.) This degenerate wanted to argue, in open court, that he was merely acting in defense of the Taliban by gunning down American soldiers, but when the judge barred that, he settled for saying, “The evidence will clearly show that I am the shooter.” He wants credit for the attack for his own jihadist reasons and he likely wants the ultimate punishment too, to claim martyrdom status. That’s the only bad news today: We are, assuredly, destined next week for another tedious debate over whether we should spare a jihadi from capital punishment purely in the interest of denying him the propaganda victory he’s seeking. The blind sheikh is alive and well in an American prison and Islamists screech about him to this day; sparing Hasan won’t disincline anyone who admires his handiwork from finding inspiration in it. Pull the plug.

More interesting than the verdict or the lame martyrdom debate to come is the statement released today by two lawyers representing many of the victims:

“Today’s guilty verdict, rendered almost four years after the attack, is only a first, small step down the path of justice for the victims.

In light of this verdict, we again call on DOD and DOJ to stop their cynical “workplace violence” charade – a charade carried on despite Hasan’s confessions and the mountain of evidence demonstrating that the attack was the work of an Islamic jihadist, working on behalf of al-Qaeda, who killed Americans for his “brothers” in the Middle East – and to stop denying the Fort Hood victims the Purple Hearts and medical and other benefits to which they are rightfully due. We call on Congress and the Executive Branch to fairly compensate the Fort Hood terror victims, in all respects, as the 9/11 Pentagon attack victims were compensated. And, we call on the government, finally, to accept responsibility for the harm done by its political correctness, spin and cover-up and to provide the victims and the American people with the truth, decency and accountability that they deserve.

The terrorist Hasan’s conviction and sentencing is only the beginning, not the end of this story. Justice for the victims of Fort Hood will be done only when the government admits its mistakes, keeps its promises to ‘make the victims whole’ and comes clean about Fort Hood. The victims, and the American people, are owed nothing less.”

The Pentagon takes lots of heat for designating Hasan’s rampage as “workplace violence” and it should; it’s an Orwellian way to whitewash his motives. Don’t forget, though, the many, many red flags about Hasan’s behavior that they ignored in order to keep him in the ranks. They looked the other way, almost certainly because they didn’t want to risk a PR clusterfark by pursuing a Muslim officer for alleged jihadist sympathies. And now here we are. Thirteen counts of murder one.

By the way, Hasan will get to speak at length next week during the sentencing phase, so if you’re keen to deny him a jihadi propaganda opportunity in death, know that he still has a much bigger one waiting in life.


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Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 3:42 PM

What was Richard Reid charged with…a ‘jihadist terrorist attack’?

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Yes. Use of a weapon of mass destruction is under 18 USC 113B – terrorism.

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Do not “martyr” this piece of feces. Put him to work – for the rest of his natural life – on the Fort Leavenworth farm, raising hogs.

PJ Emeritus on August 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM

What was Richard Reid charged with…a ‘jihadist terrorist attack’?
No. He was charged with and convicted of crimes.
This was under Bush’s DOJ.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 3:31 PM

ROFL

Charged with 8 crimes most of which fit under the aegis of terrorism; there is no actual charge of “terrorism” only such things as threats or actions deemed to be terroristic.

Your boy and his sidekicks decided that Hasan’s crimes were not terroristic but rather were “workplace violence”. Seriously, you need to stop embarrassing yourself.

Bishop on August 23, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Sorry if it double posts. Links, I suppose.
 

&Yes it is. Obama and the DOJ labelled this workplace violence to avoid admitting to a jihadist terrorist attack on American soil during O’s first 4 years in office. It is definitely a left verses right issue.
 
chemman on August 23, 2013 at 3:15 PM

 
What was Richard Reid charged with…a ‘jihadist terrorist attack’?
No. He was charged with and convicted of crimes.
This was under Bush’s DOJ.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 3:31 PM

 

COUNT ONE: (18 U.S.C. §2332a(a)(1) -– Attempted Use of Weapon of Mass Destruction)
The Grand Jury charges that:
1. At all times relevant to this count brought under
Title 18, United States Code, Chapter 113B–-Terrorism, Al-Qaeda
was a designated foreign terrorist organization pursuant to 8
U.S.C. §1189.
2. At various times relevant to this count, Richard
Colvin Reid received training from Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
 
COUNT TWO: (18 U.S.C. §2332 – Attempted Homicide)
The Grand Jury further charges that:
1. At all times relevant to this count brought under
Title 18, United States Code, Chapter 113B–-Terrorism, Al-Qaeda
was a designated foreign terrorist organization pursuant to 8
U.S.C. §1189.
2. At various times relevant to this count, Richard
Colvin Reid received training from Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
 
http://www dot fas.org/irp/news/2002/01/reidindictment.pdf

 

Reid pleaded guilty to terrorism charges in October 2002 and is serving a life sentence at the nation’s super-maximum security prison in Florence, Colorado.
 
http://w w w dot cnn.com/2009/CRIME/12/25/richard.reid.shoe.bomber/index.html

 
But yeah, other than those teensy little minor details about the crimes involving terrorism and WMDs and him pleading guilty to terrorism charges, you’re 100% correct.
 
Great point, verbaluce.

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 4:09 PM

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 3:49 PM

See 2003 Sgt Hasan Akbar attack for a more apt comparison to the Hassan case. The UCMJ doesn’t have a crime specific to terrorism to charge with here. But if one leaves the politics out of it, it doesn’t need one.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 4:09 PM

It was bad comparison on my part.
See my last comment above.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:13 PM

The UCMJ doesn’t have a crime specific to terrorism to charge with here. But if one leaves the politics out of it, it doesn’t need one.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Hasan wasn’t charged with committing “workplace violence” you blithering idiot. His victims were termed to be victims of “workplace violence”, not of a terrorist attack (or an attack, at all), whihc is offensive and should have gotten Barky and every POS in the chain from him to hasan yanked from duty and standing trial alongside the jihadi. This isn’t about what the dirtbag was charged with but what the injuries and deaths were results of, which obviously was a terrorist attack.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 23, 2013 at 4:14 PM

The UCMJ doesn’t have a crime specific to terrorism to charge with here.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Now, suddenly, after days of asking sarcastic rhetorical questions about being “charged with terrorism”, you start looking at the law to see what constitutes terrorism.

There were other options: he could have been tried as an enemy combatant. He could have had civilian charges filed against him. Having renounced his citizenship and soldiers oath, he even could have been tried as a foreign agent.

It’s not as if the choices were this or nothing.

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Ha! Did they hang him while I was away? ; )

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Poke the idiots in the eye who call this “workplace violence” by refusing to reference the death penalty.

Instead, say that Hasan faces termination, with cause.

Christien on August 23, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Now, suddenly, after days of asking sarcastic rhetorical questions about being “charged with terrorism”, you start looking at the law to see what constitutes terrorism.

Huh?
You might have me confused with someone else.

There were other options: he could have been tried as an enemy combatant. He could have had civilian charges filed against him. Having renounced his citizenship and soldiers oath, he even could have been tried as a foreign agent.

It’s not as if the choices were this or nothing.

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Well what would you have charged him with?
I think he was quite properly charged, in line with precedent, and I have full faith in the jury of US Military personnel here.
The rest is a lot of political yammering fueled by the usual motivations.

I am certain Hassan would fully welcome the designation some want assigned to him – he’d wear it as a badge of honor. I’m happy to see him denied as much of that as possible. I’d welcome any legal maneuver that would deny him the soapbox he’s been waiting for.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Remember what got us here?
 

It’s not a left or right thing –
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 2:59 PM

It is definitely a left verses right issue.
 
chemman on August 23, 2013 at 3:15 PM

This was under Bush’s DOJ.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 3:31 PM

But if one leaves the politics out of it, it doesn’t need one.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM

It was bad comparison on my part.
See my last comment above.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:13 PM

 
It’s hard to imagine how you could’ve reinforced their point any better.
 
The worst part is you even had the high ground before you started googling to figure out what you were arguing.

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 4:34 PM

I’m happy to see him denied as much of that as possible. I’d welcome any legal maneuver that would deny him the soapbox he’s been waiting for.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

 
And again. You’re conforming your position to whatever it needs to be to protect your queen.
 
See the posts on purple hearts above.

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Why is he still alive???

KMC1 on August 23, 2013 at 4:38 PM

I’m happy to see him denied as much of that as possible. I’d welcome any legal maneuver that would deny him the soapbox he’s been waiting for.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

And again. You’re conforming your position to whatever it needs to be to protect your queen.

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 4:35 PM

This point is the exact same one I first made in this thread.
Sorry for the consistency.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:39 PM

WTF is wrong with you?
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM

 
That one? Definitely consistent, I agree.

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Will those he killed and wounded get Purple Hearts?

/No. Because Obama says it’s “work place violence”. Pig.

Key West Reader on August 23, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Just kidding, btw. I knew what you meant.
 
And yet you still kneejerked to Reid and the Bush DOJ to prove everyone’s point…

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 4:44 PM

That one? Definitely consistent, I agree.

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Seriously?
Fine, rogerb.
Maybe gave you too much the benefit of the doubt that an intellectually honest back&forth just might be possible.
I guess we’ll return to your normal.
Carry on.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:46 PM

His conviction is just one step in terms of delivering justice.

The next step is to end the assinine definition of his crime as ‘workplace violence’. Call it what it is – a terrorist attack and compensate the survivors and the families of the murdered accordingly. This is not a time for political correctness. PC allowed Hasan the opportunity to commit his attack.

As for his sentence – frankly, it’s immaterial if he see’s the death penalty as ‘martyrdom’ – once he’s dead he’s going to be servicing Iblis, not Allah. And if he’s sentenced to life without parole – hopefully it will be far more like SuperMax than Gitmo.

Athos on August 23, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Just kidding, btw. I knew what you meant.

And yet you still kneejerked to Reid and the Bush DOJ to prove everyone’s point…

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Did not know you were kidding…hence my reply above…which you can ignore now.
Thanks.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Off to Supermax with him. He can join the Unibomber and Eric Roberts (who does NOT deserve to be there). There are others but their names escape me at the moment.

platypus on August 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM

that is the whole idea …. lock em up and forget about them ….
I agree… supermax …. he wants to die … and be a martyr …

conservative tarheel on August 23, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Off to Supermax with him. He can join the Unibomber and Eric Roberts (who does NOT deserve to be there).

platypus on August 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM

I agree. Eric Roberts has made some really bad movies but I don’t think he should be in Supermax.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 23, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Well what would you have charged him with?

Well, I woulda charged him with jihad terrorism herp derp oh wait there really is such a thing as charging someone with terrorism.

I think he was quite properly charged, in line with precedent

Precedent? How many terror attacks do you claim are instigated by soldiers on a year-to-year basis?

The rest is a lot of political yammering fueled by the usual motivations.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Yes, motivations including claiming there were no terror attacks on US soil during your administration. Never mind the benefits denied to the victims and their families, or the fact that those soldiers will not receive Purple Hearts despite being wounded by someone who has said directly that he has joined the side of the war against our military.

However quick you’re about to be to say “oh I meant teabagger motivations or whatever”, bear in mind that it is THE ADMINISTRATION that has decided to label this as “workplace violence” DESPITE (not because of) the defendant’s claims. It’s not like people are just making up the terror connection.

Funny in all your mocking of other people about “charged with terrorism” which is a real thing, you didn’t say anything about Hasan being charged with “workplace violence” as if that somehow was a thing.

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Life. No parole. Solitary. Simple stuff.

scalleywag on August 23, 2013 at 4:59 PM

But if one leaves the politics out of it, it doesn’t need one.

verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM

You’re right – Aiding The Enemy should be enough.

904. ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY
Any person who–
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.

GWB on August 23, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Simple. Just ship him to McMurdo sound, give him five days of food, and tell him if he can make it to the other side of the continent he’s free. In July. Wearing his old military fatigues, for desert training.
And give him a pig to take along.

Vanceone on August 23, 2013 at 5:05 PM

scalleywag on August 23, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Terminated with cause. Just to give a big FU to the people who called this “workplace violence.”

Christien on August 23, 2013 at 5:07 PM

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I hate to say it, but verb is right – there is no charge for terorism in the UCMJ. That’s what Hasan was charged under. As far as civilian charges, that statement is wrong on the federal level.

GWB on August 23, 2013 at 5:09 PM

I hate to say it, but verb is right – there is no charge for terorism in the UCMJ. That’s what Hasan was charged under. As far as civilian charges, that statement is wrong on the federal level.

GWB on August 23, 2013 at 5:09 PM

He’s only right inasmuch as that specific charge does not exist in that specific code. He spent days mocking people over the idea about “charging him with terrorism” when in fact there is such a thing.

He is not right to say the eventual outcome was the first, last and only option. Your alternative works perfectly under the UCMJ. Frankly, IMO the day he renounced his citizenship, he should immediately have had new charges filed as an enemy combatant.

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Thanks.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:47 PM

 
Fair enough.
 
Consistency-wise,

 

I am certain Hassan would fully welcome the designation some want assigned to him – he’d wear it as a badge of honor. I’m happy to see him denied as much of that as possible. I’d welcome any legal maneuver that would deny him the soapbox he’s been waiting for.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

 
you’re right, your posts on that are consistent, and good for you.
 
Just to we’re all clear, and as you’ve noted, you’re more interested in limiting a single public statement by one of millions of Jihadists and Jihadist sympathizers, and a single statement from the same Jihadist that has already made quite the public statement by successfully murdering 13 American troops and wounding 30 others on U.S. soil, rather than honoring the soldiers and their families with appropriate medals and personnel benefits through use of your preferred “workplace violence” terminology?
 
Am I understanding your consistency correctly?

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM

They d**n well better fry him

WannabeAnglican on August 23, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Stuff a half dozen ham sandwiches down him, wrap him in the skin of a freshly slaughtered Iowa hog and shoot his worthless ass.

trigon on August 23, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Pigskin noose.

And an airbag to catch his wheelchair after he is dropped through the specially-built extra wide trapdoors of the gallows.

Wouldn’t want to harm a taxpayer-funded wheelchair.

They can be re-used.

If they need a vet to help construct the gallows I and many others would gladly volunteer our services.

Hammer ready.

profitsbeard on August 23, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Open the bastard’s gut with a machete. Same with a wild shoat. Both into a pit. Bulldoze the pit with a backload of gravel. Flood with urine from a Marine Corps barracks.

72 Virgins? Nope peanut. Just your last moments on this planet gagging on Marine piss and pig screaming.

thejackal on August 23, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Why is he still alive???

KMC1 on August 23, 2013 at 4:38 PM

The same reason Obama was re-elected.

profitsbeard on August 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM

The whitewashing of motive won’t stand scrutiny. Mr. Hasan has published his reasons, and the reasons are terroristic in nature.

Hopefully, all of the victims prevail in civil court.

unclesmrgol on August 23, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Life in prison for this POS is inappropriate, while the death penalty is too good for him. Since torturing him for years to come is not an option, I choose the death penalty for him.

Allow as few words as possible from this degenerate. We have endured far too many already.

Paleoconservatarian on August 23, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Life. No parole. Solitary. Simple stuff.

scalleywag on August 23, 2013 at 4:59 PM

How many of our personnel would a terrorist have to kill before you think the death penalty is appropriate?

100?

1,000?

10,000?

profitsbeard on August 23, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Well, we can all breath a great sigh of relief that the judge ruled it had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam nor jihad and was just an unfortunate case of Workplace Violence as the Boston Bombings were just an unfortunate case of Sporting Event Violence and 9/11 was just an unfortunate case of Inflight Passenger Violence.

VorDaj on August 23, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Give ‘em the electric wheelchair.

justltl on August 23, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Well, we can all breath a great sigh of relief that the judge ruled it had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam nor jihad and was just an unfortunate case of Workplace Violence …

VorDaj on August 23, 2013 at 5:45 PM

And meanwhile, Obama is silent as a cooked clam on this issue- and every other momentous event, like the ethnic cleansing of the Coptic Christians by his MO Bros, et al- as he gets all sh*ts and giggles campaigning for freebies for his student sycophants at lickspittle college pep rallies.

Gee I had a great time!” is as close as Barack gets to saying the word Jihad.

profitsbeard on August 23, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Put him in a cell with Bradley Manning and walk away show it 24/7 on PPV.

Mr. D on August 23, 2013 at 2:44 PM

..fify.

The War Planner on August 23, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Has anyone noted yet that Hasan actually killed fourteen?

TouchingTophet on August 23, 2013 at 6:05 PM

The whole point of execution has nothing to do with the mindset of the executee, or any of their potential hangers-on. It has everything to do with justice for the victims. If Hasan is ecstatically happy on his way to the chair, that’s fine. It’ll end abruptly, and I’m pretty sure he’ll never experience such emotions for the rest of eternity. That doesn’t make me feel better or worse–it’s just the path he chose. It’s up to us to dispense justice fairly and impartially on our part, for the sake of the victims, and then judgement is up to God after that. I rather expect it will go worse for him than anything we can dream up, and if you really want to withhold mercy, then send him on his way quickly.

TexasDan on August 23, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Whatever you do, don’t look at that pic of Hasan on the main page too long. There is nothing behind those empty eyes.

Murphy9 on August 23, 2013 at 7:20 PM

14 victims actually. An unborn child….if anyone ever has deserved the death penalty it’s this savage….of course he’ll have his beard before he is finished. Freaking dhimmi judge.

sadsushi on August 23, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Every day the crippled-by-righteous-gunfire Hasan uncontrollably sh**s himself, and then he sits in it until he has the opportunity to change his diaper.

At least there’s that.

I like that.

M240H on August 23, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Sorry if I missed this in the lengthy thread, but if Hasan gets less than the Army guy who killed 16 Afghans in a fit of PTSD, I’m gonna be pissed. Really, really pissed off.

I generally don’t like the death penalty, but this has got to be the one. If not, he will not “Rot in Jail,” he will organize and sue and proselytize. So what if he becomes a martyr? I hope he cries like baby for his life and then doesn’t get it.

PattyJ on August 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Somehow, I think if this guy gets the death penalty, he’s going to want to forgo the virgins and fight very hard to save his own life.

TimBuk3 on August 23, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Justice delayed is justice denied. This jihadist should have been dead a long time ago.

David Blue on August 23, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Why is he still alive???

KMC1 on August 23, 2013 at 4:38 PM

The same reason Obama was re-elected.

profitsbeard on August 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Wow. This.

thejackal on August 24, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Time to flush this diseased tumor from the body politic.

Someone needs to render Hasan ritually unclean before death- the traitor must be porked, in effect- to discourage further jihadis.

And the information about it needs to be revealed after he is executed.

By several leakers.

All with unique methods for performing bacon/pork rind/pigfat/sow saliva overkill to guarantee at least one successful Paradise preventing mission.

profitsbeard on August 24, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Here is what I would like to see this piece of insane garbage handled: give him the death penalty and then execute the scum in some secret location at some undisclosed time. Put a hood over his head so the executioner(s) don’t know for sure who is being executed. And never disclose ANYTHING about his final disposition. Hoffa the muslim scumbag.

HiJack on August 24, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Another democrat convicted of inciting deadly violence on a republican. There’s been a couple more incidents of political violence just recently involving democrats murdering republicans, one in OK and the other WA.

The left falling over itself to attached a white democrat to the Chris Lane killing. As laughable as that is, it revealed something important about what’s going on and that is we aren’t dealing with racial violence but rather political violence.

The left’s reluctance to bring to trial one of their’s, Hassan, proves it.

The left’s insistence on denying justice for republican victims by not allowing the death penalty for capital crimes proves it.

pc on August 24, 2013 at 5:00 AM

Inflicting not inciting. The top democrat is the one doing the inciting.

pc on August 24, 2013 at 5:02 AM

Reality: the death penalty is rare in the military and is often overturned. I think there are four on military death row now (a fifth has been overturned but that’s being appealed). The last military man was a private serving in Austria who was convicted of raping an 11 yr old girl and attempting to drown her.

The President refused to pardon him/stop the execution. President…
Kennedy.

April 13, 1961.

raccoonradio on August 24, 2013 at 12:15 PM

He may be given the death penalty and then have it commuted to life in prison by the president. This ensures “justice” is served and saves the military from further embarrassment at their willful incompetence. It might not be popular, but at a certain point that may not matter.

Or, if he’s given life in prison that keeps the president out of it, at the risk of being “soft-on-mass-murder”.

This should only be the beginning of an investigation into why the military allows enemy combatants within its ranks.

virgo on August 24, 2013 at 1:17 PM

I am certain Hassan would fully welcome the designation some want assigned to him – he’d wear it as a badge of honor. I’m happy to see him denied as much of that as possible. I’d welcome any legal maneuver that would deny him the soapbox he’s been waiting for.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

 

Just to we’re all clear, and as you’ve noted, you’re more interested in limiting a single public statement by one of millions of Jihadists and Jihadist sympathizers, and a single statement from the same Jihadist that has already made quite the public statement by successfully murdering 13 American troops and wounding 30 others on U.S. soil, rather than honoring the soldiers and their families with appropriate medals and personnel benefits through use of your preferred “workplace violence” terminology?
 
Am I understanding your consistency correctly?
 
rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM

 
We’re very interested in this, verbaluce.

rogerb on August 24, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Medbob on August 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Just make sure his corpse’s backside is toward Mecca.

Freelancer on August 24, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Shoot this scum twice in the back of the head and throw him in the landfill.

Kenosha Kid on August 24, 2013 at 4:51 PM

I am certain Hassan would fully welcome the designation some want assigned to him – he’d wear it as a badge of honor. I’m happy to see him denied as much of that as possible. I’d welcome any legal maneuver that would deny him the soapbox he’s been waiting for.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

 

Just to we’re all clear, and as you’ve noted, you’re more interested in limiting a single public statement by one of millions of Jihadists and Jihadist sympathizers, and a single statement from the same Jihadist that has already made quite the public statement by successfully murdering 13 American troops and wounding 30 others on U.S. soil, rather than honoring the soldiers and their families with appropriate medals and personnel benefits through use of your preferred “workplace violence” terminology?
 
Am I understanding your consistency correctly?
 
rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM

 

We’re very interested in this, verbaluce.
 
rogerb on August 24, 2013 at 1:44 PM

 
Verbaluce?

rogerb on August 25, 2013 at 8:51 AM

PLEASE give him LIFE with NO Parole.
That would be justice for all the pain he brought to the 13 souls he stole, BUT for the rest of the Nation too.

mmcnamer1 on August 25, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Can’t see why questions of propaganda or martyrdom should enter into it. He deserves hanging, so hang him. Others may choose to think of him as a symbol or a martyr. I’d like to think of him as a cadaver with organs that could be donated to various needy infidel.

morganfrost on August 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Firing squad. Bullets dipped in bacon grease.

pdigaudio on August 25, 2013 at 12:59 PM

I am certain Hassan would fully welcome the designation some want assigned to him – he’d wear it as a badge of honor. I’m happy to see him denied as much of that as possible. I’d welcome any legal maneuver that would deny him the soapbox he’s been waiting for.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

 
Just to we’re all clear, and as you’ve noted, you’re more interested in limiting a single public statement by one of millions of Jihadists and Jihadist sympathizers, and a single statement from the same Jihadist that has already made quite the public statement by successfully murdering 13 American troops and wounding 30 others on U.S. soil, rather than honoring the soldiers and their families with appropriate medals and personnel benefits through use of your preferred “workplace violence” terminology?
 
Am I understanding your consistency correctly?
 
rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM

 

We’re very interested in this, verbaluce.
 
rogerb on August 24, 2013 at 1:44 PM

 

Verbaluce?
 
rogerb on August 25, 2013 at 8:51 AM

 
Verbaluce?

rogerb on August 26, 2013 at 3:40 PM

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ricelchew on August 26, 2013 at 11:18 PM

I am certain Hassan would fully welcome the designation some want assigned to him – he’d wear it as a badge of honor. I’m happy to see him denied as much of that as possible. I’d welcome any legal maneuver that would deny him the soapbox he’s been waiting for.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM

 
Just to we’re all clear, and as you’ve noted, you’re more interested in limiting a single public statement by one of millions of Jihadists and Jihadist sympathizers, and a single statement from the same Jihadist that has already made quite the public statement by successfully murdering 13 American troops and wounding 30 others on U.S. soil, rather than honoring the soldiers and their families with appropriate medals and personnel benefits through use of your preferred “workplace violence” terminology?
 
Am I understanding your consistency correctly?
 
rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM

 

We’re very interested in this, verbaluce.
 
rogerb on August 24, 2013 at 1:44 PM

 

Verbaluce?
 
rogerb on August 25, 2013 at 8:51 AM

 
Verbaluce?
 
rogerb on August 26, 2013 at 3:40 PM

 
Verbaluce?

rogerb on August 27, 2013 at 6:57 AM

verbaluce?

rogerb on August 28, 2013 at 6:29 AM

BTW, it’s still on the front page, verbaluce.
 
Wasn’t five days long enough for you to come up with a roundabout non-answer on why you prefer frustrating a successful terrorist for thirty seconds over giving appropriate honors and benefits to our dead and wounded troops and their families?

rogerb on August 28, 2013 at 6:39 AM

So you support intervention-minded government databases when a medical condition poses a threat to the lives of others?
 
rogerb on April 5, 2013 at 1:31 PM

 
So the thread is dead after we point out a particular mindset and what verbaluce is readily endorsing.
 
Oopsies.
 
rogerb on April 6, 2013 at 7:39 AM

 
How was it I heard it put one time?

rogerb on August 28, 2013 at 6:42 AM

Maybe gave you too much the benefit of the doubt that an intellectually honest back&forth just might be possible.
I guess we’ll return to your normal.
Carry on.
 
verbaluce on August 23, 2013 at 4:46 PM

rogerb on August 28, 2013 at 6:42 AM

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