America in crisis: Ben Affleck named as the new Batman

posted at 12:11 pm on August 23, 2013 by Allahpundit

I hate this genre but you have my sympathy, fanboys: You guys deserve better than this. And judging from Twitter reaction last night after the news broke, literally everyone — everyone — agrees. As Ben Domenech said, if you’re casting for a brooding, brilliant millionaire who channels his dark inner torment into superheroics, naturally your thoughts turn to … Ben Affleck.

This isn’t America:

Ben Affleck will join Henry Cavill in Warner Bros.’ Man of Steel sequel, the studio announced on Thursday…

The announcement comes a decade after Affleck’s largely disappointing Daredevil, the 20th Century Fox pic based on the Marvel character. Released in 2003, the film grossed $180 million worldwide on a budget of about $80 million…

“We knew we needed an extraordinary actor to take on one of DC Comics’ most enduringly popular superheroes, and Ben Affleck certainly fits that bill, and then some. His outstanding career is a testament to his talent, and we know he and Zack will bring new dimension to the duality of this character,” said Greg Silverman, Warner Bros.’ president of creative development and worldwide production.

Added Snyder: “Ben provides an interesting counterbalance to Henry’s Superman. He has the acting chops to create a layered portrayal of a man who is older and wiser than Clark Kent and bears the scars of a seasoned crime fighter, but retain the charm that the world sees in billionaire Bruce Wayne. I can’t wait to work with him.”

AV Club wants them to call the movie “The Dark Knight Looks Wicked Pissed Off Tonight, I’d Definitely Give Him Some Space, Charlene.” Look at it this way: If you hate Affleck as Batman, imagine how bad you’ll feel when Disney casts him as Han Solo Jr.

But maybe this is how it needs to be. The Batman franchise is forever being pulled towards campiness, sometimes successfully (the Adam West version in the 60s) and sometimes disastrously (the Clooney-fied A-list kitsch of “Batman and Robin”). You’ve got the Dark Knight, and then you’ve got a hammy rich guy in tights dressed up as a bat. After Nolan turned the Batman narrative into high drama, we were due for a correction. Sticking the character in a movie with Superman is goofy enough, in a “King Kong versus Godzilla” kind of way, that you really needn’t worry too much about miscasting. I only wish they went whole hog with the idea and cast Mark Wahlberg as Supes. Make it the first southie superhero movie.

Exit question via Matt Lewis: Why would Affleck, who won major respect as a talented director for “Argo,” set himself up for this?


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Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM

I said data on upward mobility. Not a snapshot of the present.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 2:39 PM

This data proves upward mobility… When you have group A with much lower rate of poverty than group B then group A has a much better upward mobility…

mnjg on August 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM

But conservative Republicans claim their policies will increase economic growth.

Right. That’s not the same thing as trying to directly provide people with more money. And it’s not through a policy of federal interference.

But for y’all white loyalty to the GOP is evidence of their belief in hard work and black loyalty to the Democrats is “mental slavery.” Its so obviously a racist rhetoric.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Let’s talk for a minute about “racist rhetoric”, from a man who continues to use the word “y’all” to address someone who lives in central Ohio and works as a web developer.

BTW, you never mentioned what those “cultural values” are that blacks share with the Democrat platform. Abortion? Same-sex marriage? I’m curious to hear some more facts from the guy who seems to think nobody has moved south in the last 50 years.

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 2:53 PM

By the way, HA – I thought you’d banned people for hijacking threads before… ?

Oh never mind; this is not the HA that MM founded any longer, it’s a playground for libtard trolls and writers espousing the establishment GOP ‘liberal lite’ bilge.

Carry on.

Midas on August 23, 2013 at 2:53 PM

This data proves upward mobility… When you have group A with much lower rate of poverty than group B then group A has a much better upward mobility…

mnjg on August 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM

*sigh* Thanks for making it so easy.

That’s not the same thing as trying to directly provide people with more money. And it’s not through a policy of federal interference.

In terms of what politicians offer voters, you are splitting hairs.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 2:57 PM

This isn’t America:

No, it isn’t:

the film grossed $180 million worldwide

Warner Bros.’ president of creative development and worldwide production.

Blockbusters now make most of their money offshore. And for all the carping about the lack of sophistication of American films, a huge reason for explosions and Affleck-level stars over plot and character development is the nature of the demands of the foreign market.

calbear on August 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM

libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Notice how the poverty rate gets much higher among single parents… So 70% of out of wedlock children and fatherless families is certainly going to lead to massive poverty among blacks…

Among single parent (male or female) families: 26.6% lived in poverty.[28] This number varied by race and ethnicity as follows”
22.5% of all white persons (which includes white Hispanics),[30]
44.0% of all black persons (which includes black Hispanics),[31] and
33.4% of all Hispanic persons (of any race)[32] living in poverty.

mnjg on August 23, 2013 at 3:04 PM

In terms of what politicians offer voters, you are splitting hairs.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 2:57 PM

No, I am not. There is a distinct difference between policies that say “I am going to give you a thing so that you can have the life we want you to live” and policies that say “I am going to defend your freedoms so that you can have the life you want to achieve“.

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 3:04 PM

When Batman calls, be Batman.

albill on August 23, 2013 at 3:09 PM

I though this thread was about Batman?

Spiders from Mars on August 23, 2013 at 3:17 PM

You knew this was coming. Ever since liberals figured out “The Dark Knight” was an allegory of the war on terror with Batman representing Bush, they’ve wanted to destroy Batman.
Heck, Batman has always represented a conservative view that liberals can’t stand. He’s a rich man in a city where the government is completely corrupt and impotent (sound familiar?) and eventually has enough and decides he’s going to use his wealth to take on the crime and corruption and fix the problem without the government. As a bonus, at the same time, using his wealth to make the city better on his own.
Can’t have those ideas around anymore. Can’t have a movie where a determined citizen (without any superpowers) can make a difference.

irishgladiator63 on August 23, 2013 at 3:31 PM

I though this thread was about Batman?

Spiders from Mars on August 23, 2013 at 3:17 PM

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Batman is just a metaphor for anything a troll wants to rant on and on about …

Maybe if you’re doing a whole Brokeback Mountain take on the relationship between Superman and Batman.

bbinfl on August 23, 2013 at 12:30 PM

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My tweet:

PolAgnostic

@jtLOL I felt Joseph Gordon-Levitt the right choice for Batman – but WB picking AFLAC (sp?) EPIPHANY! @hitRECordJoe can’t BROMANCE like Ben!

PolAgnostic on August 23, 2013 at 3:36 PM

libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Is this “poverty” you speak of , with or with out Flat screeen cable TV or cell phone service? Or is it no EBT card or free clinic health care ?
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Your people make me sick when you think you know what “poverty” is and then use it as some type leverage- to fool voters into keeping your corrupt politicians in office. Its disgusting.
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Visit a missionary in Africa- or South America- then you’ll know what Poverty is. Liberals are a bunch of frauds when it comes to their claim to be Champions of American Party.
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You’re panderers. Thats all you are.
Get freakin real.

FlaMurph on August 23, 2013 at 3:47 PM

I didn’t see Joseph Levitt as the dark knight and I certainly can’t see Affleck. We need a Gerard Butler-Hugh Jackman type for it. There really aren’t that many men’s men left to do this sort of thing….

How about Ray Stevenson?

Free Indeed on August 23, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I though this thread was about Batman?

Spiders from Mars on August 23, 2013 at 3:17 PM

It was, until mnjg decided it should be all about race or something.

UltimateBob on August 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Ben Affleck aside, after the Christian Bale Batman movies, why the heck do we need yet another Batman? Can’t they think of a different superhero? What else, what other angle, could there possibly be?

Common Sense on August 23, 2013 at 4:19 PM

I didn’t see Joseph Levitt as the dark knight and I certainly can’t see Affleck. We need a Gerard Butler-Hugh Jackman type for it. There really aren’t that many men’s men left to do this sort of thing….

How about Ray Stevenson?

Liev Schrieber

Iblis on August 23, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Ben Affleck aside, after the Christian Bale Batman movies, why the heck do we need yet another Batman?… What else, what other angle, could there possibly be?

Common Sense on August 23, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Lead up to a Justice League joint film, a la The Avengers.

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Forget Benafleckstillafleck. What role will Filner play?

Christien on August 23, 2013 at 4:38 PM

guano

Mongerel on August 23, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Forget Benafleckstillafleck. What role will Filner play?

Christien on August 23, 2013 at 4:38 PM


With that leering grin?

The Penguin

PolAgnostic on August 23, 2013 at 5:00 PM

I didn’t see Joseph Levitt as the dark knight and I certainly can’t see Affleck. We need a Gerard Butler-Hugh Jackman type for it. There really aren’t that many men’s men left to do this sort of thing….

How about Ray Stevenson?

Free Indeed on August 23, 2013 at 3:52 PM

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Just to clarify … my tweet was intended to be dripping in snark

PolAgnostic on August 23, 2013 at 5:02 PM

With that leering grin?

The Penguin

PolAgnostic on August 23, 2013 at 5:00 PM</blockquote

I could see that. Bonus–no makeup required.

Christien on August 23, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Why would this crime, while horrific, be blog worthy? What’s the national news story?

libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 1:24 PM

At which point you accidentally acknowledge that, unlike the Zimmerman/Trayvon adventure, black violence is so commonplace and accepted that it’s neither unusual, important, surprising, or newsworthy.

Nicely done, professor.

rogerb on August 23, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Sadly, it seems the HA PTB agree will the race baiting bigoted troll.

Some things I’ve learned about HA.

1. Trolling is okay.
2. On the rare occasions a troll is actually banned, it is permitted to come back under a different handle and resume its trolling ways.
3. HA tries to avoid the issue of race like the plague.
4. HA allows trolls to toss around frivolous and unsupported charges of racism like confetti at a parade. There is no penalty on HA for doing that. So, naturally, the trolls do it all of the time.

All of which is why the previously banned retread race bating bigoted troll is still allowed to troll here and continually make unsupported charges of racism and accuse others of being racists. And it’s not the only one.

farsighted on August 23, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Ben Affleck named as the new Batman

What, Pee Wee Herman wasn’t available?

tommyboy on August 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM

What, Pee Wee Herman wasn’t available?

tommyboy on August 23, 2013 at 5:19 PM

He’s too busy tearing it up on TRON: Uprising.

I mean, yes, he’s still trying to revive that stupid character, but I’m going to plug TRON every chance I get. And at least he doesn’t sound like Herman in that role.

The Schaef on August 23, 2013 at 5:28 PM

But for y’all white loyalty to the GOP is evidence of their belief in hard work and black loyalty to the Democrats is “mental slavery.” Its so obviously a racist rhetoric.
libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

What’s racist is your patronizing view that you and your ilk that blacks are too stupid and incapable to get a free ID in order to prove they are who the say they are to vote. Especially when this policy is expected to be obeyed by EVERYONE. Stuff it moron.

jawkneemusic on August 23, 2013 at 5:51 PM

He blew me away when he played the blind dude in Dirt Devil – “uh yeah Ben that’s the camera you’re trying not to look at” – and his acting is so steller-giglistic I can’t wait to see him rip Batman a new one like Clooney did … que es Butman!

kregg on August 23, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Exit question via Matt Lewis: Why would Affleck, who won major respect as a talented director for “Argo,” set himself up for this?

Because he is Ben Affleck. He lost all the respect I built up for him after his remarkably ungracious Oscar speech. Despite getting an award for Best Picture, he chose to whine about not being nominated for Best Director. He went on and on about how people had pushed him down and tried to keep him down, despite other “people” having had nothing to do with the horrendous choices he made after becoming successful – the terrible pictures, the celebrity girlfriend drama, the gambling, the booze. His career collapsed and he became a national joke because of his own choices, and not for any other reason.

Affleck sobered up, stopped gambling, married a nice woman, raised a family, focusing on producing good solid work, and was rewarded for it. Good for him.

But he’s Ben Affleck. A little success, and its back to bad roles in bad movies. He craves the blockbuster fame. I expect him to hit the bottle soon, have an affair, wreck his family. You can count on it.

Mr. Arkadin on August 23, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Is it true they are creating a computer generated Howard Zinn to portray Alfred?

kingsmill on August 23, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Ben Affleck did a great job as a director.

Ben Affleck is not a deep, uber-talented actor. He never has been.

Damon can be (even though his politics stink), not Ben. Going back to Good Will Hunting. Anyone making the claim that Affleck brings “layers” to his performance has bought the pitch.

But, hey, in Hollywood, it’s not about whether you’re a great actor. It’s about whether everybody agrees that you’re a great actor.

IndieDogg on August 23, 2013 at 7:14 PM

AP has the best headlines. I end up clicking on stuff, i.e. Ben Affleck and Batman, that I normally could not care less about.

CarolynM on August 23, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Why? WHY??? I’m still numb from the news that my favorite comic hero of all time is being played by Ben Affleck. I don’t care if he’s a respected filmmaker now. Hes Ben Affleck for crying loud!! I can think of a dozen other actors that would have been better. Screw Warner Bros and all involved in this decision.

Jack_Burton on August 23, 2013 at 10:48 PM

ALAH….
If you don’t like this genre, why write about it.
When you do, you sound like such an elitist douche bag. Who knows nothing (admittedly)about the subject. So you cover it up by sounding even MORE douchey than you usually do.

Not sure why. maybe it’s the atheist in you. There’s a built in elitist douchebaggy-ness in that.

coughcoughdickcoughcoughcough.

Handel on August 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

People have a hard time shaking off his roles from ‘Mallrats’ and the like, whilst glossing over more recent entrants like ‘Argo’

If we’re brutally honest, I suspect a lot of Batman fans are more of the Mallrats type than the Argo type anyway.

Personally, I’m willing to cut the guy some slack. He has the looks, and underrated acting chops. Besides, it all really depends on which direction they’re going with Batman

Reaps on August 24, 2013 at 1:00 AM

He craves the blockbuster fame.

Yep. I think Affleck and Damon’s talent lies behind the camera….writing and directing. Good Will is still one of my favorite movies. But Damon and Affleck want to be in front of the camera….even if that’s not what they are best at.

terryannonline on August 24, 2013 at 1:57 AM

I said data on upward mobility. Not a snapshot of the present.

libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Upward mobility occurs when an individual works hard and increases their salary over time. Nearly all teenagers start as poor. Most adults earn more than they did as teenagers. What does your salary history look like? Did you just shoot down your own argument?

Poverty has always, and will always exist, because the natural progression is for teens to earn little while learning a work-ethic as an intro level job. From their they progress upward (hence the mobility).

Only an imbecile would try to work at an entry level job and support a family. But that is EXACTLY what you want. Individuals should be encouraged to move out of entry level jobs and into better paying, more demanding jobs.

The flaw in your argument is that you assume everyone stays where they are because you look at summaries, and not individuals as they progress over time. Summaries only show you the bands of income that exist, not the progression of individuals from one band to the next higher.

dominigan on August 24, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Oh, and you want my salary history? I went from making about $2.35/hr many years ago flipping burgers at McDonalds, to over $55/hr programming computer systems for nurses to use in a small healthcare company that provides care coordination for our employer groups.

Hmmm… $2.35/hr -> $55.00/hr, flipping burgers -> computer programming… sure seems like upward mobility to me! But then I don’t understand your vast liberal intellect. It all just sounds like mushy double-speak to me.

dominigan on August 24, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Hilarious, talentless douche.

Jaibones on August 24, 2013 at 11:38 AM

libfreeordie on August 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

The difference being in the mode of delivery is all the difference required to actual mean something.

The conservative method of increasing economic activity is to get government more out of the way of productive business, which increases jobs, increases wages, and lo-and-behold, increases tax revenue as well. People who believe in the individual believe in this method.

The liberal method is always more government taxation and regulation, which contracts business activity, reduces wages, and ends up with the IRS grabbing a larger piece of a smaller pie. Only moochers and looters appreciate this method, because it includes special deals for political friends and increased giveaways in entitlement spending.

One method provides more economic and personal freedom for all who are willing to get busy and work. One method provides more poverty, and more support for the poverty-stricken. Only one method of the two makes the nation a better place to live and work.

Freelancer on August 24, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Affleck blows Matt Damon in the parking lot.

He also would suck as Batman.

madmonkphotog on August 24, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Given his Argo performance, we have to worry if his Batman portrayal will be historically accurate.

virgo on August 24, 2013 at 10:20 PM

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