Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on August 22, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Supporters of Egypt’s deposed president will stage a “Friday of martyrs” of mass protests, risking more potential bloodshed to show they can still claim the streets after a week in which hundreds were gunned down and their leaders jailed.

Egyptians are enduring the bloodiest civil unrest of their modern history after the military overthrew Mohamed Mursi on July 3 following demonstrations against his rule.

In a symbolic victory for the army-dominated old order, former autocrat Hosni Mubarak – toppled in a 2011 pro-democracy uprising – was freed from jail on Thursday, while his freely elected successor Mursi remains imprisoned. …

In recent days, Brotherhood protests that once attracted tens of thousands of people at locations across the country have ebbed, suggesting the group’s famed organizational strength may have been damaged by the arrest of its leaders. Friday’s protests will be a test of its resilience.

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EU member states have agreed to suspend export licences for any equipment that could be used for repression in Egypt, but humanitarian aid will continue.

The decision was announced by EU foreign policy chief Baroness Ashton after emergency talks in Brussels.

She said EU governments “feel very strongly that they want to continue to support vulnerable people in Egypt”. …

Arms are provided by individual countries rather than the EU as a whole, mostly by Germany, France and Spain. The UK has already suspended some of its military help.

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The U.S. is poised to suspend another major weapons shipment to Egypt amid sharp divisions within the Obama administration over whether to cut off aid to the military-backed government. The debate mirrors similar disagreements over intervening in Syria, where there are new reports that chemical weapons have been used by the government.

Factions within the administration line up largely along two fronts: those who want the U.S. to take more decisive action to counter widespread violence in both Egypt and Syria, and senior military and some diplomatic leaders who are arguing for moderation.

The lack of a unified position — both within the administration and on Capitol Hill — is giving Obama time and space for his cautious approach. But it also poses a moral question: How far should the U.S. go to stop violence against civilians when its actions could drag America into the war in Syria or damage U.S. relations with Egypt — and undermine the Egypt-Israel peace accord.

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But here’s one that might surprise you: Egyptians seem to increasingly believe that ousting Mubarak has not helped their country, and may have made things worse.

Here are a few key numbers from a May Pew report. It’s easy to imagine that these trends may have increased since then, given the surge in pro-military nationalism and the scale of the backlash against Morsi. And a Gallup poll, results from which are below, seemed to confirm as much.

1. In 2011, 77 percent of Egyptians said it was good that Mubarak had resigned.

2. In 2012, only 44 percent said Egypt was better off without Mubarak. This May, it was 39 percent.

3. Satisfaction with “where the country is going” is back around the same levels as in 2010; it was 28 percent in May of that year and 30 percent this May. It briefly spiked to 65 percent in 2011, after Mubarak’s ouster.

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U.S. officials’ caution “reflects not only their sense that they have limited influence over the near-term decision-making of the Egyptian government, but also that they are still trying to discern what the trajectory will be in Egypt,” said Tamara Cofman Wittes, director of the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution.

The risk of a backlash is clear for U.S. policymakers. Egypt could prohibit U.S. warplanes headed to Afghanistan or other hot spots from passing through its airspace, or slow American warships transiting the Suez Canal en route to the Persian Gulf. It could also derail U.S. efforts to have Egypt improve surveillance on its borders with Libya and Israel to stop arms smugglers and terrorists, changes that Gen. Abdel Fattah Sisi, the army chief, has pledged to make.

“There are plenty of costs to cutting off this aid, and it comes just at the time when, finally, after 30-some years, Gen. Sisi comes in and opens up discussions on these issues,” said Robert Springborg, an expert on the Egyptian military at the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey. “From the American military perspective, this would be a tragedy.”

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The editorial writers at the Wall Street Journal — also a savvy bunch — argue against going further and cutting aid to Egypt, saying that while doing so “would offer some moral satisfaction in the short run, it wouldn’t make General Sisi any more likely to allow a democratic transition.”

That seems to me to miss a key point: American law mandates that aid stop after a military coup. And despite the conspicuous head-scratching at the White House, a military coup is what has taken place in Egypt. There’s no serious question about that.

Would it not have been a useful object lesson had Obama said that — like every other American citizen — he is obliged to obey the law? If he thinks this a bad law — I would tend to agree — he could then work with Congress to repeal or fix it. That’s how democratic governance is supposed to function.

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President Obama cannot control what happens in Damascus or Cairo, and it’s unfair to suggest otherwise. But he must also own the policies he creates and the messages those policies send. And here’s the truth: The president will run out the clock on the problems he likes least. In Egypt, while Washington fretted over the definition of a “coup,” the Gulf’s monarchies happily stepped in to fill the void. In Syria, the administration hemmed and hawed about arming the rebels for 18 months. When they finally came around to the notion, the “good rebels” were buried in shallow graves. As it turns out, there is a cost to slow walking a foreign policy crisis. …

Last Thursday, when President Obama addressed the Egyptian military’s assault on protesters, he spoke of the tension between America’s interests and values. Indeed, he frequently elevates those geopolitical interests over our values. It’s a welcome change after George W. Bush’s administration, which lacked the caution and circumspection the job requires, especially in the first term. But there is more to the job than simply summing up risks and rewards, and the Obama administration has been far too slow to understand how its interests play out in Egypt. Obama may be one of our foremost realpolitik presidents, but you get the sense that he’s just not very good at it.

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As Egypt circles back toward the authoritarian tendencies of its past, the criticism of the international media is not surprising, but the role that the local press has played as an abettor in this is the more dispiriting phenomenon. In the final years of the Hosni Mubarak era, private television networks and newspapers had opened the door to critical coverage of the regime; their encouragement and reporting helped pave the way for the revolution. There was hope that with a toppled regime might also come a truly independent press, one of the few institutions that could steer the country as it tumbled through a tumultuous post-revolutionary era. But now, when the official state-run television channel puts a banner reading “Egypt Fighting Terrorism” in the corner of its screen (referring, of course, to the Brotherhood), the private networks do so as well. Over the weekend, the privately owned OnTV treated viewers to a highlight reel of the police clearing the Brotherhood sit-in, set gloriously to the soundtrack of “Rocky.” This was the only coverage of the event many of those watching would have seen; local newspapers and television stations give no information about the number of Brotherhood dead, and have never shown images of them. And when reports broke on Wednesday that the former dictator Hosni Mubarak might be imminently released from prison, the local media took hours to mention the news. In the interim, they covered the traffic.

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Press freedom groups have warned that an “unprecedented” number of journalists are being targeted by Egyptian forces during the violent crackdown on Muslim Brotherhood supporters.

The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) said it was “deeply disturbed” after several reporters for international media groups, including the Guardian, were assaulted or briefly detained in Cairo over the weekend. …

Sherif Mansour, the CPJ’s Middle East and North Africa orogramme co-ordinator, raised the alarm about the apparent crackdown on journalists in the politically-torn country. “The unprecedented number of killings and harassment of journalists in Egypt last week are ominous signs for the Egyptian press,” he said.

“A free press is fundamental to the restoration of democracy and to the inclusion of disparate voices in public discourse. Safeguarding press freedom, as promised by the Egyptian interim government, is a key step in that direction and direly needed right now.”

***

Since the demonstrations in Egypt in late June, I have been glued to Facebook. As an immigrant caught between homes, I selfishly hope for an Egypt I might be able to live in again one day, which is a flawed position to start with. The appeal of Facebook is that my friends—who come from different political views—share the news headlines and photos while annotating them with their opinions and experiences. (The news feed also comes entangled with pictures of dinner plates at Tom Douglas restaurants from my Seattle friends, together with posts about avant-garde American poetry and its factional disputes, all of which act as what can be described as postmodern flattening distraction.) Online, occasionally, I find myself playing interpreter between worldviews. When Mohamed Morsi, of the Muslim Brotherhood, was ousted by the army on July 3, many of my progressive friends, along with Egyptians who were educated in the West, were unable to see anything but a coup—which is not exactly how I saw it. After all, what about the 22 million people in the streets demanding his removal? For many Americans, it’s extremely hard to imagine that democracy is anything but election booths. But those 22 million people couldn’t wait for another election cycle, and isn’t it democratic to honor their will? At the very least, it can’t easily be dismissed as nondemocratic.


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Ghost Shark is on SyFy.

It was like a bad traffic accident with taxis and bicycles……I couldn’t look away….I was transfixed by it…

williamg on August 23, 2013 at 1:12 AM

They’ll really know every move you make after tomorrow. Keep that dern cell off…

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM

They already do. The vehicles are next. Disabling that is. The boxes.

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 1:12 AM

The Devil’s Waltz

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Good night Hot Air! Axe, put that away!

KCB on August 23, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Burning Hell

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:15 AM

TXUS on August 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM

I had no idea you were contemplating the metaphysical, TXUS. :)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:15 AM

Nite Ken

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:15 AM

Good night Hot Air! Axe, put that away!

KCB on August 23, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Night Ken. :)

Axe on August 23, 2013 at 1:16 AM

KCB on August 23, 2013 at 1:14 AM

LOL! Good night, Ken. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:16 AM

Good Night KCB, Sleep Well. Don’t forget to bookmark your spot. Wouldn’t want you to have to start over. ; )

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 1:16 AM

TXUS on August 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Should have picked our own damn cotton.

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:17 AM

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Good idea. That’s what I do, too. Just in case. Here in Oklahoma you never know when the cell towers will get hit by a twister or debris or a straight line wind and go down, and it never hurts to hope that maybe the landline might still work… by some miracle.:)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:18 AM

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:17 AM

LOL! Good one. Made me laugh. :)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:19 AM

My favorite :)

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 1:20 AM

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Excellent, indeed. I like This cover, too:)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Good idea. That’s what I do, too. Just in case. Here in Oklahoma you never know when the cell towers will get hit by a twister or debris or a straight line wind and go down, and it never hurts to hope that maybe the landline might still work… by some miracle.:)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:18 AM

I’m all wired. Everything. Gigabit network in the walls; router in the other room. Wireless anything is for company. :)

Pointless chit. Or chat. I dunno which is which.

Axe on August 23, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Nite Bmore

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 1:20 AM

Night Bmore.

Axe on August 23, 2013 at 1:22 AM

Should have picked our own damn cotton.

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:17 AM

Would’ve given my poor, white, non-slave owning family better jobs, actually. They may well have been the very first victims of illegal immigration, as it were.

TXUS on August 23, 2013 at 1:22 AM

Excellent, indeed. I like This cover, too:)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Indeed…had just posted it, just a tad above, different v.

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:23 AM

Axe on August 23, 2013 at 1:21 AM

I have wireless so that I can walk around while I work. I move from office upstairs to office down stairs… out to pool house… poolside table… into living room… kitchen on center island… dining room, sometimes… often in bed. I get claustrophobic in one room very long… and I don’t like to sit in the same chair for very long. I even rigged a panel on my treadmill so that I can put the laptop on it and work while I work out.

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:25 AM

I had no idea you were contemplating the metaphysical, TXUS. :)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:15 AM

If you think about it, it would make a pretty good screenplay/movie. Wanna help?

TXUS on August 23, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 1:20 AM

Goodnight, Bmore. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Dust Bowl – Bonamassa

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:27 AM

They are writing about half of it. :)

Axe on August 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM

*tips fedora*..:)

PS..rofl..:)

Dire Straits on August 23, 2013 at 1:27 AM

treadmill

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:25 AM

Huh. So they can kiss your shapely, athletic ass too? :)

–Inside joke, people. Not disrespectful. No pouncing.

Axe on August 23, 2013 at 1:28 AM

TXUS on August 23, 2013 at 1:26 AM

I can see how it might be worked…but I’ve recently decided to stop writing for film. I’m not even consulting anymore. Don’t tempt me back in, TXUS. lol!

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:29 AM

PS..rofl..:)

Dire Straits on August 23, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Hi, Dire. You are a total late, late night-owl lately. :)

Axe on August 23, 2013 at 1:29 AM

Axe on August 23, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Absolutely! lol!:)

~ And he’s right.. inside joke… no pouncing. :)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:30 AM

Nite Jackie

Nite HA nighowls and extraterrestrials.

Nite America. I miss you.

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:32 AM

Therefore, it just seems like I am only full of complaints.

bluegill on August 22, 2013 at 11:44 PM

How about we let the other Qotd-ers have a vote on whether or not I was being rude & unfair to her, ok? :)

Anti-Control on August 22, 2013 at 11:49 PM

…I think…she voted first!…as usual…she was a little …”wordy” !

KOOLAID2 on August 23, 2013 at 1:33 AM

Schadenfreude on August 23, 2013 at 1:32 AM

Goodnight, my friend. :) That tune is beautiful. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:35 AM

#Lurking. Ghost Shark. Compiler. Later Jack :) Night Schad.

Love you Sophie!

Axe on August 23, 2013 at 1:36 AM

The Messiah Will Come Again – Moore

I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always.

Live in the moment.

“Keep yourselves where the light is.”

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:40 AM

From a “Diamond REO” album a “Kerrang” reviewer once called the best heavy-metal record from North America (I don’t agree, but it’s up near the top imo):

“It Ain’t What You Say It’s What You Do”

Anti-Control on August 23, 2013 at 1:41 AM

“Keep yourselves where the light is.”

thatsafactjack on August 23, 2013 at 1:40 AM

…love that!

KOOLAID2 on August 23, 2013 at 1:41 AM

…I think…she voted first!…as usual…she was a little …”wordy” !

KOOLAID2 on August 23, 2013 at 1:33 AM

haha

I think you’ve been exceptionally funny about her recently! :)

Anti-Control on August 23, 2013 at 1:42 AM

I think you’ve been exceptionally funny about her recently! :)

Anti-Control on August 23, 2013 at 1:42 AM

…I’m just…chit chatting!

KOOLAID2 on August 23, 2013 at 1:50 AM

I tried to contemplate the metaphysical but it contemplated me first.

Its not supposed to happen that way is it?

SparkPlug on August 23, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Its not too early to start planning your Halloween costumes.

I think I’ll be Oprah. I just gotta wear a weird wang dress and gain 700 pounds.

SparkPlug on August 23, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Hey KOOLAID2. How’s tricks?

SparkPlug on August 23, 2013 at 2:33 AM

The Egyptians’ crackdown on the MB is hardly “violence against civilians” any more than our takedowns of known terrorists are. Just because they wear no uniform, it should not be assumed MB are not terrorists. They are the granddaddy of every single Sunni extremist group, including al Qaeda and Hamas. They killed Sadat. They were undermining the independent judiciary and gutting the officer corps of the Army, they subverted the process for adopting a constitution, Morsi asserted for himself absolute power, all for the purpose of instituting a totalitarian theocracy.

Against these actions, over 20 million Egyptians – nearly 25% of the entire population – took to the streets to demand Morsi be deposed. The Army listened to the people.

We should asking them how we can help them clean up the mess, not cutting or delaying aid.

Adjoran on August 23, 2013 at 2:35 AM

Excerpt from “Stop Being Black“

PointnClick on August 22, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Great post.

John the Libertarian on August 23, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Chris Lane shooting was ‘gang initiation’…

Its so cool to be a gang member. One requirement is to be weapons grade stoopid, illiterate and ebonics challenged

SparkPlug on August 23, 2013 at 2:40 AM

Chris Lane shooting was ‘gang initiation’…

SparkPlug on August 23, 2013 at 2:42 AM

Chris Lane shooting was ‘gang initiation’…

SparkPlug on August 23, 2013 at 2:42 AM

Oh thank goodness! And here I worried it might be race related…!

John the Libertarian on August 23, 2013 at 3:01 AM

Chris Lane shooting was ‘gang initiation’…

SparkPlug on August 23, 2013 at 2:42 AM

With which liberals are comfortable, as part of ‘black culture’ that whites can never understand.

Liam on August 23, 2013 at 3:32 AM

uk talking head…we need more talkers like that ga women of talking down a shooter instead of having guns at school…

keep dreamin

cmsinaz on August 23, 2013 at 6:08 AM

another uk talking head…there are no grounds of impeachment for the president…trashing tom cobuen who indicated that he is close to impeachment…

coburn just pandering
-mj crew

cmsinaz on August 23, 2013 at 6:10 AM

colin powell is a national treasure (after slamming nc voter id law)
-mj crew

cmsinaz on August 23, 2013 at 6:15 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! …and Trolls. OT:

No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth!

– Ronald Reagan “Bohner Cries, “Stop!…or I’ll Say Stop Again!”
My take.

kingsjester on August 23, 2013 at 6:45 AM

kingsjester on August 23, 2013 at 6:45 AM

SPOT bloody on KJ…great take

cmsinaz on August 23, 2013 at 6:55 AM

Good morning, everyone. Please try to remember Electrongod today as he lays his wife to rest. I love you guys!!!

Cindy Munford on August 23, 2013 at 6:57 AM

cmsinaz on August 23, 2013 at 6:55 AM

Thank you, ma’am.

Cindy Munford on August 23, 2013 at 6:57 AM

My God hold him, his daughter and their family in the hollow of His hands.

You’re a jewel, Miss Cindy. We love you, too.

kingsjester on August 23, 2013 at 7:06 AM

Well, finally some good news out of my home state. Brought a smile to my face. Way to go E-town!

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 7:07 AM

With which liberals are comfortable, as part of ‘black culture’ that whites can never understand.

Liam on August 23, 2013 at 3:32 AM

Apparently there is a part of white culture that blacks don’t understand that makes liberals very uncomfortable. Some of us will shoot you if you assault us. A smaller percentage of us will shoot you twice.

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Cindy Munford on August 23, 2013 at 6:57 AM

morning CM…

sending prayers

cmsinaz on August 23, 2013 at 7:13 AM

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 7:07 AM

:)

cmsinaz on August 23, 2013 at 7:14 AM

we need more talkers like that ga women of talking down a shooter instead of having guns at school…

keep dreamin

cmsinaz on August 23, 2013 at 6:08 AM

I love the way that woman took charge. But she was incredibly lucky she didn’t end up dead. Adam Lanza wouldn’t have been talked down that way. Gun-free zones are still invitations for violence. Just sayin’

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 7:27 AM

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Heh.

Cleombrotus on August 23, 2013 at 7:30 AM

Well, finally some good news out of my home state. Brought a smile to my face. Way to go E-town!

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 7:07 AM

I have to wonder if Fonda realized that she was creating enemies for life when she cozied up to the enemy. I have to wonder if Chris Christie realizes that he did the same among Republicans with the last minute Obama endorsement.

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 7:31 AM

Excerpt from “Stop Being Black“

PointnClick on August 22, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Bookmarking that site. Thanks.

Cleombrotus on August 23, 2013 at 7:31 AM

Don’t blink. Defund it!

http://www.redstate.com/2013/08/21/dontblink-defund-it/

mountainaires on August 23, 2013 at 6:36 AM

Excellent reading.

bluegill on August 23, 2013 at 7:33 AM

I have to wonder if Fonda realized that she was creating enemies for life when she cozied up to the enemy. I have to wonder if Chris Christie realizes that he did the same among Republicans with the last minute Obama endorsement.
Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 7:31 AM

I am noticing that the same Republicans who are for amnesty and funding Obamacare are also Christie supporters.

I see them start off with, essentially, “all reasonable know we need to have a path to citizenship and we need to fund Obamacare.”

It’s as if they like being seen by liberals as the “reasonable” ones.

Makes me sick.

bluegill on August 23, 2013 at 7:37 AM

I am noticing that the same Republicans who are for amnesty and funding Obamacare are also Christie supporters.

bluegill on August 23, 2013 at 7:37 AM

It comes from the idea that all ideas are equal. “Republican” politicians who support amnesty and Obamacare are unprincipled hacks. I’m hoping the Tea Party faction rises up and demands new leadership. If Boehner gets behind either amnesty or Obamacare he should be replaced NOW!

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 7:44 AM

It comes from the idea that all ideas are equal. “Republican” politicians who support amnesty and Obamacare are unprincipled hacks. I’m hoping the Tea Party faction rises up and demands new leadership. If Boehner gets behind either amnesty or Obamacare he should be replaced NOW!
Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 7:44 AM

Yes, I am seeing this more now.

I see it even among particular analysts. There is what seems like a cliquish-ness among these people. They want to be liked by each other. It is not principle nor conviction that drives them.

They act out of fear. They are being led, not leading!

“Unprincipled hacks” sums it up perfectly.

bluegill on August 23, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Gun-free zones are still invitations for violence. Just sayin’

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 7:27 AM

I read a passage in a book once, went something like “One should always carry weapons where weapons are not allowed.” I’ve always remembered it and thought it to be very good advice.

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 7:56 AM

Yepper HN @7:27

cmsinaz on August 23, 2013 at 7:59 AM

I read a passage in a book once, went something like “One should always carry weapons where weapons are not allowed.” I’ve always remembered it and thought it to be very good advice.

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 7:56 AM

Yeah, I lived that advice in post-Katrina New Orleans. The city was broken before the storm but afterward…….. Well, let’s just say I wasn’t interested in putting trust for my safety in the NOPD. True story, first night after I moved there I heard gunfire that turned out to be a double homocide a few blocks away.

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 8:01 AM

It comes from the idea that all ideas are equal.

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 7:44 AM

Every time I hear that all ideas are equal crap I ask.

“If all beliefs are equally valid, how come my belief in the absurdity of this maxim gets rejected by its proponents?”

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 8:01 AM

“If all beliefs are equally valid, how come my belief in the absurdity of this maxim gets rejected by its proponents?”

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 8:01 AM

Let me guess, the next step from the proponents is to start name calling (intolerant, biased, RACIST) due to the paucity of support for their position.

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 8:06 AM

Let me guess, the next step from the proponents is to start name calling (intolerant, biased, RACIST) due to the paucity of support for their position.

Happy Nomad on August 23, 2013 at 8:06 AM

Yep. To which I would reply.

“If racial profiling is an abomination, what do you make of the last presidential election?”

Oldnuke on August 23, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Electrongod,sending nothing but positive vibes your way.

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Bmore on August 23, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Yes. Thoughts and prayers going out to Electongod, his daughter, family and friends.

Fallon on August 23, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Why isn’t Hot Air covering the hottest topic in the nation? Drudge is hitting it with headlines concering the WWII veteran, who was savagely murdered by two animals who don’t deserve to be called human beings. No offense meant. Just puzzled. I’m sure a story about his and Christopher Lane’s murder will be coming soon.

kingsjester on August 23, 2013 at 9:37 AM

kingsjester on August 23, 2013 at 9:37 AM

I wonder why too.

— Police in Spokane, Wash., say they have arrested one of two teens suspected of fatally beating an 88-year-old veteran of World War II who had survived the Battle of Okinawa.

http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2013/08/23/daughter-in-law-world-war-ii-vet-beaten-to-death-with-big-heavy-flashlights/

Via Drudge

bluefox on August 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM

kingsjester on August 23, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Who is censoring HA..?

d1carter on August 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM

kingsjester on August 23, 2013 at 9:37 AM

And AP is out for a while…I wonder if it is related?

d1carter on August 23, 2013 at 1:55 PM

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