Yeargh! Howard Dean ponders 2016 bid?

posted at 12:41 pm on August 21, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Look, if Joe Biden can come back from plagiarizing Neil Kinnock’s speeches and end up a heartbeat away from the Oval Office, surely Howard Dean can come back from this:

Want to know who else believes that? Howard Dean, apparently:

This week former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean will speak at an event in Iowa. And next month Dean will be talking about health care reform in New Hampshire, WMUR Political Scoop has learned.

A decade after Dean’s last presidential campaign began, is another one about to begin?

The Daily Caller takes a closer look at it:

The Daily Caller asked former Dean campaign manager Joe Trippi for his thoughts on a potential Dean campaign. Trippi emphasized that he does not know Dean’s thinking on a run, though predicted the Democratic Party base would be excited about it.

“I think many on the left would rally to his candidacy should he decide to run,” Trippi told TheDC. “I do not know how serious he is though. I think Hillary Clinton casts a shadow over any potential Democrats including Dean if she decides to run in 2016. If she doesn’t run Howard Dean would be a very strong contender for the nomination.” …

In June, Dean told CNN he was open to another run.

“I am not driven by my own ambition,” Dean said. “What I am driven by is pushing the country in a direction that it desperately needs to be pushed; pushing other politicians who aren’t quite as frank as I am who need to be more candid with the American people about what needs to happen. I am not trying to hedge, it’s a hard job running. It’s really tough. I am doing a lot of things I really enjoy. But you should never say never in this business.”

It might be fun to snark at the idea, but don’t laugh too hard … at least not if you’re a Democrat.  Dean may have imploded on his first attempt — and it was the debate before the scream that did him in, not the lame attempt to jolly up his Iowa loss — but most presidential nominees take a couple of attempts to really become effective.  Obviously that wasn’t true of Barack Obama, but I’m not sure that wasn’t the original intent when Obama kicked off his campaign in 2007, either, with Hillary Clinton looking like a lock on the nomination.  The only Republican nominee in a generation not to need two tries before winning the nod was George W. Bush, for example.

Furthermore, Dean represents a real threat to Hillary Clinton. He served three times as governor of Vermont, and also successfully led the Democratic National Committee to recapturing control of Congress in 2006 and the presidency in 2008.  Dean has the executive experience Clinton lacked before becoming Secretary of State, where her record will be a burden rather than a boon on the resumé.  As DNC chair, Dean made connections with all of the state party organizations and donors on a level that Clinton may not be able to duplicate — plus proved that he could build a national organization without those connections, too.

Dean’s problem in a general election will be that he will need to run to Hillary’s left to win the nomination.  It’s also going to be tough to win in the general after eight years of Obama and no particular compelling narrative for continued Democratic governance, especially with the way ObamaCare is rolling out. He’s also going to be 68 years old at that time, and almost all of the Republican potential nominees will be much younger and more a part of current politics than past — a problem Hillary will also have.  However, Dean may be exactly the kind of candidate who can derail Hillary a second time on the way to the nomination.


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The base, the net roots, the activists, to them Howard Dean is battling Bob Lafollete reincarnated. He may not be able to beat the Clinton machine, but he could be formidable.

rob verdi on August 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM

heh! sorry, I laughed…../

ted c on August 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM

He has to take the slogan “I scream, you scream, we all scream for Howie Dean!”

Flange on August 21, 2013 at 12:47 PM

don’t see it…the dems want the first female president with a D next to the name…

everyone else will be gently nudged out…

cmsinaz on August 21, 2013 at 12:47 PM

*looks at the calendar*

Yep, it’s still August 21, 2013. And the biggest topic here and on NRO the last few weeks is the Presidential election in 2016.

I’m sorry, Ed, but I have a lot of more urgent things to worry about.

Chris of Rights on August 21, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Don’t laugh

Too late.

Bitter Clinger on August 21, 2013 at 12:48 PM

If you listen to Howie’s scream in reverse, he sounds like Lenin. Well, more like Lenin than he usually does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UShPXuNQTHQ

Stu Gotts on August 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Bring it, Howie.

This is what the Democrat Party truly needs…two, not one, but two, crazy old uncles just making a mess of Thanksgiving dinner…while that angry old aunt nobody really likes but everybody is nice to because she knows where all the money is pontificates about “family” and we have to listen because she is the angry old aunt.

Howie, make sure they don’t make you sit at the kids’ table this time around.

Biden?

For all that is holy, just keep him away from the little kids, entirely.

coldwarrior on August 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM

A “couple of attempts” is generally more of a rule for Republican nominations though. Democrats usually want the next big thing. Bubba didn’t have a previous attempt. Neither did Carter, or even Dukakis and Kerry. Biden recovered to become VP, but had absolutely no traction in the Presidential primaries.

I similarly suspect Dean would be old news compared to an O’Malley, Hickenlooper, Andy Cuomo, Girl-Schumerllibrand… what I don’t get is why people don’t understand the same holds for Hillary.

Gingotts on August 21, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Stu Gotts on August 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Or Adolf on steroids.

This is off the Abbey Road to Nowhere album?

coldwarrior on August 21, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Let it go forward. We need laughs.

Plus, this.

Schadenfreude on August 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM

So they’d want to run an angry old white man against our young, historic Hispanic rising star?

crrr6 on August 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM

With all these liberal politician’s forgiveness/comebacks, ie Weiner, Spitzer, et all, why can’t John Edwards re-enter this ring of madness?

Rovin on August 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Can we choose the Democrat nominee this time? Can we? Please? Puhleeeeeeze, can we????

They get to choose the Republican nominee all the time anymore…

It is only fair.

coldwarrior on August 21, 2013 at 1:02 PM

I honestly can’t see how anyone on the Democrat side could be much worse than Obama.

And I’m serious.

DRayRaven on August 21, 2013 at 1:03 PM

He’s also going to be 68 years old at that time, and almost all of the Republican potential nominees will be much younger and more a part of current politics than past — a problem Hillary will also have.

Howard Dean needs no botox (AFAIK).

Frau Pantsuit? Not so much…

JohnGalt23 on August 21, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Run, Howard, run. Yeaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhh!

either orr on August 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM

And the run to the even further left begins….

Athos on August 21, 2013 at 1:06 PM

The road to the White House is long. And the bench is thin.

The sad part is that Dean actually makes more sense as a candiate than either Killary Klinton or Joe Biden.

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2013 at 1:07 PM

either orr on August 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM

The bumper sticker sighted on Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s car…

On the front bumper.

coldwarrior on August 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Howard Dean or Elizabeth Warren.

El_Terrible on August 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM

why can’t John Edwards re-enter this ring of madness?

Rovin on August 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM

It is one thing to send photos of your junk to high school girls.

It is another thing entirely to have a bastard child by a woman working on your campaign, using campaign funds to pay her off, having your aide lie about the paternity, and leaving your cancer-stricken wife.

The reason why Edwards isn’t a contender is that he has even more baggage than Killary.

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Dean is popular with the gentry liberals. But he’s the wrong skin color for everyone else. Hillary was denied once, and will likely not be denied again. It was Kerry’s “hippie punching” of Howard Dean that in part ensured Kerry’s subsequent loss in 2004.

Sekhmet on August 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Dean has been out here in Utah the last few days. All over the radio and TV drumming up voter outreach and Democrat voter registration.

I’m sure this trip includes MT, CO, NM, NV, etc.

What’s the GOP doing? (besides hiding and Boehner weeping)

aquaviva on August 21, 2013 at 1:18 PM

why can’t John Edwards re-enter this ring of madness?

Rovin on August 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM

What makes anyone think he WON’T??

ToddPA on August 21, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Not just Howie Wowie, but John Edwards as well. If Bill Clinton can come back from his scandals and be the ‘elder statesman of the democratic party’, why not Edwards?

slickwillie2001 on August 21, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Killary, Biden, Dean.

When did P.T. Barnum put the band back together?

madmonkphotog on August 21, 2013 at 1:21 PM

The Dean Scream video is still my all time favorite
political clip…..the guy went damn near full on
Postal….More Please.

ToddPA on August 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Sekhmet on August 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM

I thought it was John Kerry playing Elmore Fudd in Ohio

Or the bunny suit.… that ensured his 2004 loss.

Or maybe that “Who amongst us does not love NASCAR” comment?

Bet these are deeply seared into John’s memory…

coldwarrior on August 21, 2013 at 1:22 PM

I dont think a strong democratic contender facing off against Hillary need run to her left or right in particular. I think a string democratic contender simply needs to pit their list accomplishments against hers, and constantly reiterate that its a choice between the incompetence Hilary displayed as secstate or the competence that he/she displayed at their office.
This will be very effective.

paulsur on August 21, 2013 at 1:23 PM

He’d get my vote if he were to run against Christie.

besser tot als rot on August 21, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Dean, like the rest of the Dhimmicrats, is a big gov Statist (redundant?) But am I the only one here who doesn’t think his “scream” was that big of a deal? Even the clip above didn’t seem that out of place…as far as shyster politicians go…jus sayin

SwabJockey on August 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Dean/Chappelle 2016

BYYYYYAAAAAH!

Christien on August 21, 2013 at 1:36 PM

He isn’t the firebrand he was in the 2004 primaries. He is a serious threat to Hillary, and to whoever our nominee ends up being.

BocaJuniors on August 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Speaking of Hillary (since every story is really about Hillary), stunning comments from Camille Paglia in Salon (emphasis is mine):

She has more sooty baggage than a 90-car freight train. And what exactly has she ever accomplished — beyond bullishly covering for her philandering husband? She’s certainly busy, busy and ever on the move — with the tunnel-vision workaholism of someone trying to blot out uncomfortable private thoughts.

I for one think it was a very big deal that our ambassador was murdered in Benghazi. In saying “I take responsibility” for it as secretary of state, Hillary should have resigned immediately. The weak response by the Obama administration to that tragedy has given a huge opening to Republicans in the next presidential election. The impression has been amply given that Benghazi was treated as a public relations matter to massage rather than as the major and outrageous attack on the U.S. that it was.

IndieDogg on August 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Anyone running against Dean need only pull some YouTube clips and play them. That will have people running for the exits.

GarandFan on August 21, 2013 at 2:04 PM

The reason why Edwards isn’t a contender is that he has even more baggage than Killary.

Happy Nomad on August 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Plus, he has a marketable skill: He can bite a hole clean-through the tire of a speeding ambulance without mussin’ up the hairdo.

(Apparently Killary couldn’t exactly, as they say, suck the chrome off its bumper.)

Tsar of Earth on August 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

I sooooo hope Howard Dean Runs. Wouldn’t these nominees be fun to watch?

1) Hillary
2) Joe Biden
3) Howard Dean
4) Al Gore
5) Barney Frank
6) Debbie WS

nazo311 on August 21, 2013 at 2:29 PM

bwahahahahahahaha

Al Sharpton has a national television show….. Howie sounds just about right for the times.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on August 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Let me guess. Joe Trippi’s middle name is “Acid.”

He’s on one if he thinks this guy is a “strong contender.”

NoPain on August 21, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Dean has been out here in Utah the last few days. All over the radio and TV drumming up voter outreach and Democrat voter registration.

I’m sure this trip includes MT, CO, NM, NV, etc.

It’s because he cares too much about the little people. It’s all about us.

NoPain on August 21, 2013 at 3:08 PM

I find it interesting that Dean will have been out of political office for 12 years and out of politics for 8 years by the 2016 election, yet nobody including Ed thought it was worth mentioning. Hmmmmmm.

KMav on August 21, 2013 at 4:23 PM

But, but Dean is a Kerry-Class nitwit, chucklehead and douchebag.

The hubris is amazing!

heldmyw on August 21, 2013 at 7:08 PM

…he’ll give Joe Biden a run for his money!

KOOLAID2 on August 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Can we choose the Democrat nominee this time? Can we? Please? Puhleeeeeeze, can we????

They get to choose the Republican nominee all the time anymore…

It is only fair.

coldwarrior on August 21, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Hell yaah! Let’s pick their least popular ones like they do to us !!!!

SCREAMIN’ DEAN IN ’16 ! (and it rhymes too!)

HEYYYYYYARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

cableguy615 on August 21, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Let’s go, Howard! The nuttier the better!

virgo on August 22, 2013 at 1:11 AM