Video: New ad opposing “Stand Your Ground” laws re-creates Zimmerman shooting

posted at 2:41 pm on August 20, 2013 by Allahpundit

Say this for them: This is, basically, the popular version of what happened, evidence be damned. Zimmerman spots a suspicious man in the distance and, his trigger finger itchy, immediately reaches for his gun. (In fact, Zimmerman told police his gun was in his holster until after the fight started.) Fade out, then fade back in and suddenly there’s a dead teenager on the ground with Zimmerman hunched over him. What happened between the fades is irrelevant. What you’re seeing here isn’t a depiction of “stand your ground” self-defense, it’s a guy basically stalking another guy with his mind on shooting him before he’s even close enough to make out the other man’s features. Is it likely that Zimmerman would have been looking to shoot Martin given that he’d already called the cops and knew that they’d be at the scene at any moment? No, but what kind of ad would that have made?

And in case you’ve forgotten, “stand your ground” played only a very minor role in the trial itself. Zimmerman waived his right to an SYG pretrial hearing and pleaded standard self-defense instead. SYG was mentioned in the jury instructions but if you believe Zimmerman’s version of the fight, which was credible enough to sway the jury, SYG was inapplicable to the facts because he was knocked down before there was any ground to stand. Again, though, what kind of ad would that have made?


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I am so tired of watching the proggies and the media (same difference) rewrite history whenever they don’t like the facts. And the dummies will ultimately come to believe this version.

bofh on August 20, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Pick up a middle school history text book some time. This media stuff is nothing compared to what the text book authors (like bill ayers) are up to

Timin203 on August 20, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Say this for them: This is, basically, the popular version of what happened, evidence be damned.

?????????

Since when?

Not even in the very blue state where I live is this the ” popular version of what happened.”

If it was, you can damn well bet that Obama, Holder, et al would have really pressed for a Federal Civil Rights criminal prosecution for Zimmerman, instead of just paying lip service to it to keep the NAACP/far left happy.

But it’s not.

Dreadnought on August 20, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Look. This is really pretty simple.

The Left, are like the drunk guy at the bar…goading people into a fight. There’s no reasoning, there’s no arguing, there’s only one way out of this…and they’re not going to stop until they get their fight.

The best part, though, is I don’t have to tell anyone here…how that fight inevitably ends up.

And they’ll be sitting on the floor, with that combination Surprise/Dejected/Stunned look on their collective faces…wondering how, after aaaaaalllll that pushing, someone could have possibly popped them right on the “Off-Switch”.

I say we quit turning our heads, and pretending like this isn’t happening…and throw a hook that would rival Sonny Liston’s.

a5minmajor on August 20, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Verbaldouchebaggery you’re laughable as usual. The fact that you won’t say what a joke this ad is….. serves as evidence.

CW on August 20, 2013 at 6:41 PM

We attempted to contact the Australian Chris Lane for comment but he had been murdered.

Mason on August 20, 2013 at 6:42 PM

We attempted to contact the Australian Chris Lane for comment but he had been murdered.

Mason on August 20, 2013 at 6:42 PM

His girlfriend helpfully informed us all that he was very anti gun (or, as I view it, against defending himself), so he had that going for him.

Timin203 on August 20, 2013 at 6:43 PM

If it was, you can damn well bet that Obama, Holder, et al would have really pressed for a Federal Civil Rights criminal prosecution for Zimmerman, instead of just paying lip service to it to keep the NAACP/far left happy.

But it’s not.

Dreadnought on August 20, 2013 at 6:33 PM

You’re simplistic.

CW on August 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM

We attempted to contact the Australian Chris Lane for comment but he had been murdered.

Mason on August 20, 2013 at 6:42 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/3-teens-charged-australian-player-slain-201203273.html

I don’t believe they did it out of boredom. Is anyone buying that?

He’s not alone. There was a story a couple weeks ago about a baby being shot to death in his carriage

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/22/police-georgia-infant-killed-while-pushed-in-stroller/

dogsoldier on August 20, 2013 at 6:47 PM

But it’s not.

Dreadnought on August 20, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Ok it’s the popular version among racist liberal knuckleheads.

dogsoldier on August 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM

The baby was a blue eyed “white Hispanic”. The murderer- De’Marquis Elkins – shockingly enough is black.

He’s not alone. There was a story a couple weeks ago about a baby being shot to death in his carriage

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/22/police-georgia-infant-killed-while-pushed-in-stroller/

Mason on August 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Hoodies for Trayvon?

Baseball hats for Chris Lane.

From what I know about this case, the 3 defendants should be very relieved that they are minors; otherwise, they’d likely have a date with a needle.

[It is unconstitutional to execute a person of any age for a crime he committed as a minor; see Roper v Simmons, 543 U.S. 551 (2005))

Resist We Much on August 20, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Resist We Much on August 20, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Yeah, 3 black guys murdering a white foreigner that’s in the country legally???

MSM Kryptonite.

BigWyo on August 20, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Wonder if this video will cause somebody to burn a consulate?

ultracon on August 20, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Hoodies for Trayvon?

Baseball hats for Chris Lane.

From what I know about this case, the 3 defendants should be very relieved that they are minors; otherwise, they’d likely have a date with a needle.

[It is unconstitutional to execute a person of any age for a crime he committed as a minor; see Roper v Simmons, 543 U.S. 551 (2005))

Resist We Much on August 20, 2013 at 7:00 PM

But perfectly legal to shoot them in self-defense when they’re trying to kill you.

Until the left gets their way with outlawing self-defense when your attacker is black. They want to do that so badly.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Stupid ad.

bluegill on August 20, 2013 at 7:34 PM

What about Chris Lane? I’d like to see the kid that was dancing when he was booked in do the rope dance. How about some coverage? Are we ready for a discussion about race in America yet? I know I am.

claudius on August 20, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Pick up a middle school history text book some time. This media stuff is nothing compared to what the text book authors (like bill ayers) are up to

Timin203 on August 20, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Talked to a 20 year old (friend of ours..sweet girl … smart by that generation’s standards) a few months ago. She’s from New York. A very nice young girl. Don’t mean to put her down in any way here.. talking about whatever and I mentioned the Alamo. She said “What?” I said “The Alamo, you know.” She repeated “What’s that?” I said again.. you know.. the Alamo. Down in Texas.” She said she had no idea what I was talking about. Kept asking. “What is it? I never heard of it”

On another day I would have given her a history lesson. That day I just said..”Oh.. OK..” and went on with the conversation.

There is a whole generation coming up.. here now I should say.. who know nothing. They are walking around and look like Americans.. but they know nothing of our history or our constitution.
You just assume, you know, that younger kids are being taught something… but I fear it is absolutely nothing. All they know is America had slaves, it’s racist, global warming is real, capitalism is greedy and socialism is good.

This kind of people cannot maintain a free nation. Just is not going to happen. We need 15- 16 years of radical conservatism to rescue America. 15-16 years of radical change in our education system. 15-16 years to graduate a new generation who respect and appreciate our nation and know it’s true history and are prepared with the necessary skills to protect it and prosper it.

Anything less is just a bump in the road.

JellyToast on August 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM

If it was, you can damn well bet that Obama, Holder, et al would have really pressed for a Federal Civil Rights criminal prosecution for Zimmerman, instead of just paying lip service to it to keep the NAACP/far left happy.

But it’s not.

Dreadnought on August 20, 2013 at 6:33 PM

You’re simplistic.

CW on August 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM

How so?

You actually think, that if Obama and Holder thought they had popular support for this version of the Zimmerman/Martin incident, that they wouldn’t have gone ahead and pressed for a Federal Civil Rights prosecution of Zimmerman, evidence be damned?

You’re naive.

Dreadnought on August 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM

But it’s not.

Dreadnought on August 20, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Ok it’s the popular version among racist liberal knuckleheads.

dogsoldier on August 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM

True. But of course that’s not the same thing.

Dreadnought on August 20, 2013 at 8:04 PM

I’m sure Michelle Malkin objects to the casting choice here for the Trayvon Martin character….not ‘gangsta’ enough.

verbaluce on August 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM

.
It doesn’t matter what Michelle Malkin thinks about the casting choice, nor what you think about it, either.
It doesn’t matter whether the dead boy in the commercial looks like a “gansta”, or the purest Altar Boy.

The commercial is a deliberate lie ….. period.

The commercial is artistically designed to sway public opinion against armed citizens on the street.

listens2glenn on August 20, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Essentially, the entire video forgets to highlight what stand your ground is.

William Teach on August 20, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Very powerful. Painful to watch, painful to hear Martin’s scream for “help”, but I guess it had to be said.

DarkKnight3565 on August 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Stupid ad.

bluegill on August 20, 2013 at 7:34 PM

…insightful!

KOOLAID2 on August 20, 2013 at 8:23 PM

I Hate liar-crats!
It’s bad enough that the MSM lied and withheld facts in an effort to convict George before the trial.

If they really want to end black teen deaths they’d ban “black culture”, which is actually the lack of civility and culture.
Thanks for creating so many lost, out of control boys.
Hear that single mommies!

kregg on August 20, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Very powerful. Painful to watch, painful to hear Martin’s scream for “help”, but I guess it had to be said.
 
DarkKnight3565 on August 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

 
Hopefully there will be some frank discussions about not attacking homosexuals or someone who is “dissing” you, gay or otherwise. Especially not attacking adults who may be legally armed.
 
If that talk can save one young black man’s life then the discussion was definitely worth it.

rogerb on August 20, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Wow… who knew one bullet could take down so many wannabe gangstas!

Ukiah on August 20, 2013 at 8:55 PM

I wonder how worried the left is about the Australian kid who was shot in the back and murdered by blacks in Oklahoma as he jogged down the street? Any talk of this being a “hate” crime by Sharpton, et. al.? Or was this just a little payback for Trayvon?

BillCarson on August 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

The Chris Lane story is up over on CNN, complete with mugshots. Over 30,000 comments. One was saying Facebook has slowed to a crawl.

claudius on August 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Ok it’s the popular version among racist liberal knuckleheads.

dogsoldier on August 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Which includes most of the MSM, most Dems, the Hollywood mob, the TV talk-show crowd, most university faculty, etc.

So ten to twenty years from now the commonly accepted version of events, the legend, will be that Zimmerman murdered Martin and “got away with it”. People who know and understand the evidence and testimony presented in the trial, the evidence kept out of the trial, and what almost certainly really happened will be a tiny minority.

farsighted on August 20, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Which includes most of the MSM, most Dems, the Hollywood mob, the TV talk-show crowd, most university faculty, etc.

So ten to twenty years from now the commonly accepted version of events, the legend, will be that Zimmerman murdered Martin and “got away with it”. People who know and understand the evidence and testimony presented in the trial, the evidence kept out of the trial, and what almost certainly really happened will be a tiny minority.

farsighted on August 20, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Yep, Saint Trayvon will be another Emmett Evans.

slickwillie2001 on August 20, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Lawsuit. Now.

TallDave on August 20, 2013 at 9:45 PM

The Chris Lane story is up over on CNN, complete with mugshots. Over 30,000 comments. One was saying Facebook has slowed to a crawl.

claudius on August 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Wow! It’s over 32,000 comments now….

d1carter on August 20, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Very powerful. Painful to watch, painful to hear Martin’s scream for “help”, but I guess it had to be said.

DarkKnight3565 on August 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Not powerful at all. It tried to be, but when the camera panned to show all those dead Trayvon Martins, it was so ridiculously over the top to be laughable.

Here was a very serious incident, and they made it a bad joke by trying to imply that “Stand your ground” laws are somehow responsible for the targeting and killing of innocent young black men.

When the truth is that our sympathy should be with the victims — of all races — who are targeted by the Trayvon Martins of the world.

Trayvon Martin’s death was a tragedy because he caused it himself. Attacking Zimmerman, who had done nothing to him, was immoral and criminal. But he would have survived both of those.

Attacking a man with his fists that he couldn’t be sure was unarmed was stupid — and fatal.

Now, I think it most likely that Trayvon had been abusing Lean for long enough that he had become physically aggressive and paranoid, and that was why he attacked Zimmerman.

But ultimately, it doesn’t matter why. Zimmerman defended himself, and Trayvon Martin was rightfully killed.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 20, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Three more of Obama’s sons behaving as expected….

viking01 on August 20, 2013 at 10:06 PM

There is a whole generation coming up…. who know nothing.

This kind of people cannot maintain a free nation.

JellyToast on August 20, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Antonio Gramsci and the Frankfurt School are laughing their collective asses off (sorry, pun intended.

The Long March has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

Bruno Strozek on August 20, 2013 at 10:12 PM

this kind of thing makes me want to punch someone or at least burn down an embassy

kirkill on August 20, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Three more of Obama’s sons behaving as expected….

viking01 on August 20, 2013 at 10:06 PM

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That’s the best one-liner of the thread … : )

listens2glenn on August 21, 2013 at 1:17 AM

I’m sure Michelle Malkin objects to the casting choice here for the Trayvon Martin character….not ‘gangsta’ enough.
verbaluce on August 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Rather, not dead enough. Good thug = dead thug.

tommyboy on August 21, 2013 at 3:55 AM

So, what’s their solution for these poor little 15,16 & 17 year old ‘children”? http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/man-who-dobbed-in-suspects-accused-of-murdering-melbourne-baseball-player-chris-lane-says-his-son-was-next/story-fni0fiyv-1226700172461

kregg on August 21, 2013 at 5:17 AM

Pick up a middle school history text book some time. This media stuff is nothing compared to what the text book authors (like bill ayers) are up to

Timin203 on August 20, 2013 at 6:29 PM

As colonel Cathcart would say, “All part of the plan.”
If Obama and his mastermind ilk could completely disarm the American population, their next act would be to distribute machetes to everyone of their constituents.
That’s what this whole propaganda schlock is about, its the truth and we’re watching every move you make Bagosora. I mean Obama.
Freudian.

onomo on August 21, 2013 at 7:56 AM

http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/

Dollayo on August 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM

And, gee, comments are disabled at YouTube – what a shocker!!!

PJ Emeritus on August 21, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Ask Malkin.

verbaluce on August 20, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Wow. I think we need to call Guiness. It may be both physically and logically impossible for a person to so completely miss the point of an image, as you missed this one.

Even better, you did so in response to an ad which has nothing to do with Michelle Malkin, and the veracity of which in no way relies on this image or the point behind it.

The Schaef on August 21, 2013 at 11:52 AM

I’m sure Michelle Malkin objects to the casting choice here for the Trayvon Martin character….not ‘gangsta’ enough.

verbaluce on August 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM

SO you have the power to read the minds of other people with 100% accuracy so you can KNOW exactly what they think and believe… and this is how you use it?

Damn, really wasting your magical super-power here aren’t you?

I’m not sure what Michelle Malkin thinks about anything without asking her… but I don’t have your mystical and magical power of mind-reading.

Do you know what I think of your claim? No, you don’t need to be a mind reader to guess this one…

gekkobear on August 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM

The Chris Lane story is up over on CNN, complete with mugshots. Over 30,000 comments. One was saying Facebook has slowed to a crawl.

claudius on August 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM

And no thread here at HA. What’s up with that?

dogsoldier on August 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

CNN seems to have started a new thread and it already has 13,445 comments.

dogsoldier on August 21, 2013 at 2:55 PM

14,268

claudius on August 21, 2013 at 8:25 PM

The guy with the AK and 500 rounds only has 6,155 so far.

claudius on August 21, 2013 at 8:27 PM

And no thread here at HA. What’s up with that?

dogsoldier on August 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

It’s almost like they don’t want to talk about it and are intentionally ignoring it.

Dollayo on August 22, 2013 at 2:36 AM

I’m sure Michelle Malkin objects to the casting choice here for the Trayvon Martin character….not ‘gangsta’ enough.
 
verbaluce on August 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM

 
Tell us more about what one looks like.
 
rogerb on August 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

 
Ask Malkin.
 
verbaluce on August 20, 2013 at 4:11 PM

 
You introduced it.
 
What do they look like?
 
rogerb on August 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM

 
So all done, verbaluce?
 
No description of your “gangsta enough” stereotype?
 
How odd.

rogerb on August 22, 2013 at 6:37 AM

Speaking of:
 

BTW, why are you worried about what adults do in the privacy of their own homes?
 
rogerb on August 9, 2013 at 12:59 PM

 
Ok, props for that one. I’ll check back later to see what’s up.
 
urban elitist on August 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM

 

I know you didn’t mean to, but it dawned on me how well you summed up our entire guns/HIV debate in that one little exchange.
 
Crucial and near-universal “positions” (stay out of our bedrooms! 30,000 dead or injured!) can be hypocritically used and laughed off because they’re opportunistic cudgels and not actual moral positions.
 
rogerb on August 9, 2013 at 2:43 PM

 
Looks like we get to add racial profiling to the list…

rogerb on August 22, 2013 at 6:41 AM

It’s almost like they don’t want to talk about it and are intentionally ignoring it.

Dollayo on August 22, 2013 at 2:36 AM

There are threads on Lucianne.com about it. There are reports these thugs posted racist messages online, so the act was not just boredom after all. One of them posted they “hate” white people.

dogsoldier on August 22, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Why in the hell is Hot Air not covering Chris Lane? It’s time we turn the tables on the media cover-up of Black racist violence and murder. Silence = death. The time to say enough is enough is right the hell now!

Buck Turgidson on August 22, 2013 at 2:03 PM

The manipulation, division, and continuing dumbing-down of Americans continues…Saul Alynski would be proud!

A black kid attacks a white man who shoots the kid in self-defense is appropriately acquitted of murder, and the Race Pimps & President fans the flame of faux-racism and hatred. During the trial white kid attacks a black man, the black man shoots and kills the kid in self-defense, and the race pimps & President ignore it. Next 3 black kids stomp and kick a white kid unmercifully on a bus, and the race pimps / President turns a blind eye. Whites and Hispanics are targeted and attacked while their black attackers shout ‘This is for Trayvon’…and the race pimps/President remain silent. A white 84yo WWII Veteran is beaten to death by several black kids…and the Race pimps & divisive President disappears like he did on the night 20 embassies were over run, the 1st Ambassador in 30 years was murdered, and 2 orders to betray Americans fighting for their lives in Benghazi.

Wake up, America….you are being lied to, deceived, manipulated, and moved around like pawns…their COMMON goal being to keep US so divided that we can’t see straight, can’t get together, and can’t must anytype of defense / attack against what they are doing.

easyt65 on August 22, 2013 at 9:59 PM

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