WSJ: Team Biden “confident” about 2016 prospects

posted at 12:41 pm on August 19, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

We often treat Joe Biden and his political aspirations with something less than seriousness, but are we dismissing him too casually and too early? According to the Wall Street Journal, the Vice President’s political team believes he can win the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination even if Hillary Clinton jumps into the race, which might surprise … just about everyone who observes politics:

Political allies of Vice President Joe Biden have concluded that he can win the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination—even if Hillary Clinton enters the contest—and are considering steps he could take to prepare for a potential candidacy.

While Mr. Biden has made no decision about his future, people familiar with his thinking say, he hasn’t ruled out a bid for the White House. If he runs, that could set up a titanic battle between two of the party’s most prominent figures.

Biden’s making the usual opening moves of a major candidate:

One step under discussion by Biden backers is to form a political action committee he would use to funnel money to other Democratic candidates, which could build goodwill for a possible White House bid, people familiar with the talks said. Meanwhile, Mr. Biden is preparing to attend a Democratic event in Iowa, which traditionally holds the first nominating contest, and to raise money this week for the Democratic governor of New Hampshire, the state that holds the first primary.

The WSJ quotes David Axelrod as dismissive of the idea that Biden will run against Hillary.  “I would be shocked to see that materialize,” he says, even as Biden prepares for his trips to Iowa and New Hampshire.  Perhaps he’d be shocked to see Hillary run if Biden gets into the race?  Naaaah.

Team Biden says that we can’t write off a sitting VP:

“He’s the vice president of the United States of America! When you’re the sitting vice president and you’re running against anybody, you still have a chance,” said one person close to Mr. Biden.

Putting aside Biden himself, let’s test that hypothesis.  Sitting VPs actually have a rather poor record of success following two-term Presidents who serve out their entire terms of office.  The only sitting VP in our lifetime to have won election in his own right without having taken over the presidency due to the death of his predecessor was George H. W. Bush.  Al Gore failed, and so did Richard Nixon in 1960, although he won in 1968 and 1972, and Hubert Humphrey lost that 1968 election to Nixon. Before that, one has to go back a long way to find success — all the way back to Martin Van Buren.  Even apart from successive elections, VPs have a poor track record in presidential elections — Gore, Walter Mondale, Humphrey, and Gerald Ford all lost.

Now consider Biden himself, his propensity for gaffes, and his track record of plagiarism and failure on the presidential-campaign trail.  That’s not a resumé that would lead anyone to guess that Biden will be an exception to this historical trend, and neither is his age.  He’ll be 74 years old in 2016, hardly a magnet for the youth vote.

By that same measure, though, why should Hillary Clinton be considered a lock for the nomination?  She’ll be 69 years old in 2016, with a track record of surprising failure in presidential campaigns, too.  Add to that the incoherence of foreign policy under her term as Secretary of State, the embarrassment of the Russian “reset,” the scandal of the Benghazi terrorist attack and aftermath, and the notable lack of accomplishment at State under her direction, and it doesn’t add up to much of a platform.  The Clintons may be more popular than the Bushes, but they share the same time frame and relevance to the 2016 electorate.

These two may be better matched as opponents than we thought.  If they crowd out the rest of the field, especially the Democratic governors that might speak to the current generation of voters a little more effectively, Republicans might be the biggest beneficiaries.


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Hahahahahahaha

MTF on August 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Hogwash…Biden will be just a puppet, as he’s always been.

It’ll be Cori Booker or Michelle. The obamas hate, hate, hate the Clintons. obama needs a front man. Michelle or Cori will provide one.

Schadenfreude on August 19, 2013 at 12:44 PM

*facepalm*

Bwahahahahahahah!

Logus on August 19, 2013 at 12:45 PM

An unsupervised Joe the Boob running around the country is going to be quite the spectacle.

Flange on August 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

anything is possible…heck, they elected dear leader for a 2nd time…

cmsinaz on August 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Now, there’d be an interesting array of Democrat candidates. Cory Booker, Michelle Obama, Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.

Logus on August 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

i can’t imagine why anyone would want a 3rd term democrat…unless they are gluttons for punishment expecting a freebie but will end up with nada

cmsinaz on August 19, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Do it, Joe! Dooooooeeeeeeeet!

James on August 19, 2013 at 12:47 PM

BIden ’16: Because it’s a BFD! ROFL!

kingsjester on August 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Schadenfreude on August 19, 2013 at 12:44 PM

they may hate her but they want the first female president to be a dem…

cmsinaz on August 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM

After eight years under the oppressive and tyrannical Obama regime, a Biden regime would be like a breath of fresh retarded aire.

Murphy9 on August 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Hillary: The Movie

Akzed on August 19, 2013 at 12:51 PM

The only sitting VP in our lifetime to have won election in his own right without having taken over the presidency due to the death of his predecessor was George H. W. Bush.

Ed, that may be true, but several won their party’s nomination, which is what we’re really discussing here, isn’t it?

I’d bet heavily against a Biden Presidency ever occurring, but I’m not sure I’d bet quite so heavily on Hillary! defeating him in a Democratic primary. Incumbency is a big advantage, and you would expect that if Obama enters into the race at all, it’ll be on the side of his VP. The antipathy between the Obamas and the Clintons is well known.

Chris of Rights on August 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM

but are we dismissing him too casually and too early?

I can’t think of anyone better to represent the typical IQ level of the typical American, of 2013.

MNHawk on August 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Dream on. Joe is the most useful idiot of all. His team is saying they’re “confident” because Shrillery’s team told them to say that. Her coronation is picking up steam and her team is getting a little concerned about the appearance of hubris from the queen. They’ve asked Joe to step up his pretense of running to create the appearance that Shrillery has to “fight for it,” and being the court jester that he is, Biden will play along as long as he’s told to. He and his “doctor” wife know what the Clintons do to simpletons who don’t do as they’re told.

Rational Thought on August 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM

I have a number of “wishes” in what I want to see play out
on the political stage in coming years….my NUMBER ONE wish?

The 2016 Presidential election is Sarah Palin vs Joe Biden.

PART DEUX.

ToddPA on August 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Papa Joe’s probably thinking when he lets everyone know that his opponent had a stroke right around benghazi time that will do her in.

However, even with 1/2 a brain she’s sharper than he is.

acyl72 on August 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Biden/Weiner 2016!

WhatSlushfund on August 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM

There was a time when I thought a Biden presidency would never happen. But after the 2012 election….who knows? But yes a Biden vs Hilary battle would be epic to witness.

Jack_Burton on August 19, 2013 at 12:58 PM

they may hate her but they want the first female president to be a dem…

cmsinaz on August 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM

See Logus’ list. They can have the first black Lesbian.

All they need now is a mongoloid transgendered handicapped one and they’ve got the leftist gammut covered.

PC will kill all, just a matter of time.

Schadenfreude on August 19, 2013 at 12:59 PM

First campaign stop, Katie’s Diner!

Murphy9 on August 19, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Why isn’t his run a foregone conclusion? He is, after all, the sitting vice president.

When are the democrats going to explain why anyone else is the presumed frontrunner?

CurtZHP on August 19, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Sent. Chuck Grassley will be his running mate.

Murphy9 on August 19, 2013 at 1:01 PM

“He’s the vice president of the United States of America! When you’re the sitting vice president and you’re running against anybody, you still have a chance,” said one person close to Mr. Biden.

By all means Joe, run on your accomplishments as VEEP in the Obama administration. You were, after all, to bring gravitas to the ticket.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:01 PM

While Mr. Biden has made no decision about his future, people familiar with his thinking say…..

For some reason that quote jumped out at me and actually gave me a bit of a scare.

tru2tx on August 19, 2013 at 1:01 PM

First campaign stop, Katie’s Diner!

Murphy9 on August 19, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Hopefully, he can round up some “Clean and Articulate” Blacks there

ToddPA on August 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Bill & Hill will have to pay Biden off with a lot of money…from their philanthropic organizations

workingclass artist on August 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM

But yes a Biden vs Hilary battle would be epic to witness.

Jack_Burton on August 19, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Well the primary debates anyway. The grinning idiot v. a woman who becomes less liked by audiences the longer she talks.

The real Dem frontrunner, Chris Christie, will have to work hard to keep a straight face.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Because “Recovery Summer(s)” was/were such a success!

pain train on August 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM

The real Dem frontrunner, Chris Christie, will have to work hard to keep a straight face.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM

HA!

workingclass artist on August 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM

“I am Joe Biden. I am almost better than Hillary.” is no winning campaign slogan.

Or is it?

[Wait till Michelle announces...watch them all flee like cockroaches caught by a flashlight.]

coldwarrior on August 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Sent. Chuck Grassley will be his running mate.

Murphy9 on August 19, 2013 at 1:01 PM

nah…Wendy Davis

workingclass artist on August 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM

First campaign stop, Katie’s Diner!

Murphy9 on August 19, 2013 at 1:00 PM

“Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street with me in Wilmington or go to Katie’s Restaurant or walk into Home Depot with me where I spend a lot of time and you ask anybody in there whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration has made them better off in the last eight years.”

Strangely, it is perhaps a more relevant question now than it was in 2008. Even if Reagan was in office the last time folks were hanging out at Katie’s Restaurant.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM

He’d likely buy a Honey baked Ham for the Saudi prince for Easter. Fun stuff like that would be excellent to witness. A lot less intentionally malicious crap than Obama.

Murphy9 on August 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM

nah…Wendy Davis

workingclass artist on August 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM

The epitomy of the modern liberal Democrat down to matching shoes and catheter.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Recall Joke Biden’s Seal Team Six disclosure of secret information, -he has no problems with releasing state secrets for his own political advancement.

What does he know about Hil’s Benghazi disaster that he could reveal at a most appropriate time? What other dirt does he have on Hil that he might be accumulating during his time as VP that comes from the corrupted NSA or IRS?

slickwillie2001 on August 19, 2013 at 1:14 PM

i think he stands a chance even eith young people, he is a very likeable guy i’d wanna have a beer with him but never obama-hillary-o’maly there just to stiff.
i would like to see a biden-ryan rematch in 16′

TheIkrim on August 19, 2013 at 1:14 PM

The epitomy of the modern liberal Democrat down to matching shoes and catheter.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM

But did the shoes match the bag?

pain train on August 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM

He’d likely buy a Honey baked Ham for the Saudi prince for Easter. Fun stuff like that would be excellent to witness. A lot less intentionally malicious crap than Obama.

Murphy9 on August 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Yeah it’s always fun when the village idiot thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Go biden Go!

At least now we’ll have a chance at winning the Presidency

LurkerDood on August 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Has a sitting Vice President never run for their Parties nomination?

Johnnyreb on August 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

The trump card in the 2016 democratic primaries will be -Black.

Whoever has it will claim to be the one to continue the REB’s legacy, and to ask the simple question of the black democratic base, -”why would you go back to being governed by old white people?”

slickwillie2001 on August 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Has a sitting Vice President never run for their Parties nomination?

Johnnyreb on August 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Gerald Ford comes to mind. As does Harry Truman.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Heh schadenfreude

cmsinaz on August 19, 2013 at 1:20 PM

What could Biden possibly run on? A campaign ad: “Elect Biden if you like $1 trillion dollar deficits, if you like everyone gets an ObamaCare exception but you, and if you like the spread of dependency on the government.”

Blue Collar Todd on August 19, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Has a sitting Vice President never run for their Parties nomination?

Johnnyreb on August 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Gerald Ford comes to mind. As does Harry Truman.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:19 PM

How about Dick Cheney.

Bitter Clinger on August 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Well, Gilligan will have been president for 8 years, why not follow him up with Bozo?

Marxism is for dummies on August 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM

-”why would you go back to being governed by old white people?”

slickwillie2001 on August 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM

That may be the starting point but with the parasite class it really comes down to what the candidates promise in the way of “free stuff” and legislative agenda. It wasn’t by happenstance that just before the last election the illegals got a partial reprieve with the DREAMER executive order and the sodomites got promises concerning concerning “marriage”

The parasites are greedy single-issue voters who don’t give a damn about anything but their issue. For example, gays don’t give a damn about the economy, jobs, education, or anything else just so long as they are pandered to. Same goes for stupid women, illegals, and blacks.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM

What could Biden possibly run on?

Blue Collar Todd on August 19, 2013 at 1:22 PM

What can any Dem actually run on?

Bitter Clinger on August 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM

We often treat Joe Biden and his political aspirations with something less than seriousness, but are we dismissing him too casually and too early?

The same people also treat Hillary Clinton as a lock, even after what happened in 2008. After, they said she was a lock for 2008.

She is the establishment. The wingers in the Dems will take her down in 2016 with their own historic candidate, just like they did in 2008.

The wingers in the Republicans don’t have that kind of power. They can only annoy with the likes of Santorum, Perry and other no-chance-in-hell candidates.

Moesart on August 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Al Gore failed, and so did Richard Nixon in 1960, although he won in 1968 and 1972, and Hubert Humphrey lost that 1968 election to Nixon.

Both Nixon and Gore came extremely close; arguably Nixon did actually win in 1960 but the election was stolen in Chicago and TX. Of course the Dems thought Bush stole it from Gore in 2000 as well.

Biden has many, many faults as a candidate and Obama’s presidency is far, far less successful (an understatement) than Eisenhower’s or Clinton’s but I agree that it’s not wise to write off a sitting VP.

Missy on August 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Has a sitting Vice President never run for their Parties nomination?

Cheney wasn’t that long ago.

DanMan on August 19, 2013 at 1:26 PM

How about Dick Cheney.

Bitter Clinger on August 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM

How could I forget the most obvious! He went in the job making it clear that he wasn’t going to run for the Presidency! Should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:26 PM

See Logus’ list. They can have the first black Lesbian.

All they need now is an illegal mongoloid transgendered handicapped one and they’ve got the leftist gammut covered.

PC will kill all, just a matter of time.

Schadenfreude on August 19, 2013 at 12:59 PM

FIFY :)

NapaConservative on August 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM

What can any Dem actually run on?

Bitter Clinger on August 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Vote for Joe, because the struggle continues- the Constitution isn’t dead yet!

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Fast forward to 38 seconds.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciImJjhzSj0
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Go ahead Joe, run.

diogenes on August 19, 2013 at 1:29 PM

He was an also-ran both times that he’s tried. He wasn’t competitive against Hilary in 2008 and she’s had a much more substantive and public role since then. He has no chance against her. None. There are very few absolutes in politics but this one of those rare occasions. He would do Clinton the rare service of making her seem younger and as the upstart candidate against the old white guy who spent the previous 8 years essentially playing the court jester. The late night comedians would tear him to shreds. Hilary is probably praying that he runs.

Long Legged MacDaddy on August 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Why not just join forces?

Harridan/Imbecile 2016.

Has a great ring to it.

Demonized on August 19, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Vote for Joe, because the struggle continues- the Constitution isn’t dead yet!

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM

He could add, “But Chris Stevens is”.

Bitter Clinger on August 19, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Has a sitting Vice President never run for their Parties nomination?

Johnnyreb on August 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Gerald Ford comes to mind. As does Harry Truman.

Happy Nomad on August 19, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Neither was a sitting Vice President at the time of an election and both ran for president as the incumbent. Nelson Rockefeller was Ford’s VP. Truman didn’t have a VP as the 25th amendment wasn’t passed until the mid 60′s.

Long Legged MacDaddy on August 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

He would need to affect a slightly Indian accent if he wanted to lock in the quickie mart vote.

Murphy9 on August 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Putting aside Biden himself, let’s test that hypothesis. Sitting VPs actually have a rather poor record of success following two-term Presidents who serve out their entire terms of office.

A poor record in the General but they do pretty well getting the nomination, no? I can’t imagine a more ideal situation for the GOP.

emz35 on August 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Oh it’s possible.

Biden v Hillary! in a primary can expose the “dirt” of Hill, like Benghazi – but in a much more tame narrative. Then, when Hill beats Biden, the MSM will treat said issues as “it’s already been talked about”, dismiss it – then accuse any Rep of staying off message for the Children.

CLinton’s were overtly racist to Obama, and were the Original Birthers. These 2 issues were then hung around the necks of any Rep who dare brought it up while the MSM conveniently buried any Clinton fingerprints.

When the media is in one party’s pocket – never, ever assume anything.

Odie1941 on August 19, 2013 at 1:57 PM

We often treat Joe Biden and his political aspirations with something less than seriousness, but are we dismissing him too casually and too early?

Yes we are. See Algore Goracle, Walter Mondale and Hubert H. Humphrey, the previous three embodiments of the Rat version of NextInLine™ (i.e. sitting/former VPs).

Steve Eggleston on August 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Recall, if you will, Hillary and Giuliani were the locked candidates in 2008. Look how that worked out…

Big John on August 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM

My guess is that Biden would be running as a stalking horse for Hillary. As sitting VP he would commandeer most of the non-Hillary vote, then he’ll do something typically Bidenish which will put him out of the running just in time for her to win.

Missy on August 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Has a sitting Vice President never run for their Parties nomination?

Johnnyreb on August 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

In the modern (i.e. post-WWII primary-dominated) era, Dick Cheney, Nelson Rockefeller and Alben W. Barkley have not run for President, and Dan Quayle dropped out to establish nepotism as superior to ex-VP in the GOP NextInLine™ structure. Before then, and after Martin Van Buren, most of the VPs didn’t run for President after serving.

Steve Eggleston on August 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

We often treat Joe Biden and his political aspirations with something less than seriousness, but are we dismissing him too casually and too early?

Congratulations! It’s pretty rare to be able to write a column that credibly asks the question, “Should we take Joe Biden seriously?”

Of course, it would be even more rare that the answer to the above question is, “Yes.”

Certainly not in this case. While it’s true that Biden’s qualifications look no worse objectively than Hillary’s, that makes absolutely no difference. Hillary’s not being taken seriously because she is a qualified and credible candidate. She’s being taken seriously because she for some reason has a lot of supporters who don’t care how ridiculously deceitful, treacherous, shrewish, unqualified, and incompetent she is.

To be honest, Hillary and Biden both have better qualifications than Obama, even though both should be relegated to joke status. Obviously, none of that matters to the Democrats.

So to answer the question, no, Biden’s candidacy will go nowhere, just like it did the last several times he ran. He’s really not a threat to Hillary at all.

Unlike a lot of pundits, I wouldn’t be surprised if Hillary’s candidacy also goes nowhere. I doubt Hillary has enough supporters to clinch the nomination, and fully expect the Democrats to nominate someone else entirely. But if it does come down to Hillary and Sheriff Joe, Sheriff Joe is going down.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Biden would be the clown to replace the part time president. Better than “What difference does it make.”?

Dasher on August 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Three letters: LMAO

VibrioCocci on August 19, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Hillary Clinton? No problem for Biden! Jill will pull out her double-barreled shotgun and blow her away!

Steve Z on August 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Three letters: LMAO

VibrioCocci on August 19, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Wasn’t that J-O-B-S? As in Joe is B.S.?

Steve Z on August 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM

If Hairplug Joe runs he can carry the important swing state of . . . Delaware?

Seriously, Biden has run at least twice before and he couldn’t raise money or break into double digits in any polls. In 2008 he finished no better than a very distant 5th place (1%) except in his homestate of Delaware where he finished a distant 3rd (3%).

myiq2xu on August 19, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Wasn’t that J-O-B-S? As in Joe is B.S.?

Steve Z on August 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Just me loosely quoting ole Joe. :P

VibrioCocci on August 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM

If he runs, that could set up a titanic battle between two of the party’s most prominent figures.

When small men cast long shadows, you know the sun is setting.

Ancient Chinese proverb

And if it’s a woman casting long shadows, you’re really screwed.

Cleombrotus on August 19, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Add to that the incoherence of foreign policy under her term as Secretary of State, the embarrassment of the Russian “reset,” the scandal of the Benghazi terrorist attack and aftermath, and the notable lack of accomplishment at State under her direction, and it doesn’t add up to much of a platform.

You forgot to add that she was a Senate backbencher with no personal legislative accomplishments during her tenure as Senator.

blammm on August 19, 2013 at 3:49 PM

You forgot to add that she was a Senate backbencher with no personal legislative accomplishments during her tenure as Senator.

blammm on August 19, 2013 at 3:49 PM

That’s the Barry-Plan, do nothing, because no matter what you do someone or some state is offended by your legislation.

slickwillie2001 on August 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Chairman Obama has announced for our entertainment for the next 2 years Joe “clown” Biden will travel around the country. Gafftastic.

tim c on August 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Biden-McCain 2016!

either orr on August 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM

The scumbag who put a target on the back of Seal Team 6 members… and soon after a Chinook with men from the force were shot down over Afghanistan.

A mysterious and colossal operational disaster that this treacherously stupid jackass abetted.

Biden is garbage.

Like Hillary.

profitsbeard on August 19, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I understand the Progtard Pravda media needing to run interference for Haggary and give some impression she isn’t just their ONLY hope….. -
But what the He11 ? WSJ ?
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C’mon man, this is pathetic. Even in that .00001% possibility she doesn’t run- that freakin boob Biden? They won’t let Biddie brains get anywhere near a nomination… he’s a stooge and every knows it-
STOP THE CHARADE- please…..
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Sure, for the commie Left, he still has to appear confident, electable and able in some twisted logical way and to try and convince people that he’s not a total idiot (Fail)- but this is a job for the PROPAGANDA MEDIA to do- NOT WSJ !!
.
what is the damn frequency kenny?

FlaMurph on August 19, 2013 at 5:10 PM

You forgot to add that she was a Senate backbencher with no personal legislative accomplishments during her tenure as Senator.

blammm on August 19, 2013 at 3:49 PM

That’s the Barry-Plan, do nothing, because no matter what you do someone or some state is offended by your legislation.

slickwillie2001 on August 19, 2013 at 4:31 PM

And wouldn’t she have done much better to stick with that plan?

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM

The scumbag who put a target on the back of Seal Team 6 members… and soon after a Chinook with men from the force were shot down over Afghanistan.

A mysterious and colossal operational disaster that this treacherously stupid jackass abetted.

Biden is garbage.

Like Hillary.

profitsbeard on August 19, 2013 at 4:57 PM

With Biden, there’s at least a chance it was unintentional.

There Goes the Neighborhood on August 19, 2013 at 5:23 PM

The wanna-bees will love to spend the election money, go to all the parties, be guest speakers and partake in all the festivities, we’ve seen it all before and it’s still BS at the highest order. Biden is an idiot and close behind him is the female idiot that thinks we don’t remember the 130+ body count the Clintons racked up and her “What difference does it make” comment. She lied about the Benghazi incident along with being fired upon by terrorists. The only people who think she has a chance are the ones that would vote for her no matter what her history states and these people love the MSM that flaunt the BS.

mixplix on August 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Don’t discount Bidden political suave. He would have no problem with totally destroy Hillary Clinton and he has the loyal soldiers to do it. He has played the court jester to Obama as the major safe guard for Obama. After all who would want president Joe?

Tiberius Claudius of ancient Roma did the same until his time came in 41 AD.

What does disturb be is that the best the party can come up with is Bidden or Clinton. I guess what should be kept in mind is that it is the party the decides who will be elected not “We The People”. The Party is so polished they could get Hitler elected President of the United States.

jpcpt03 on August 19, 2013 at 7:44 PM