Look to the governors in 2016

posted at 4:01 pm on August 17, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Earlier this week, CNN asked me to write an op-ed on Ted Cruz, and whether he’s a realistic contender for the presidency.  My reaction: Of course he is — but probably not in 2016.  And for that matter, neither are the Republicans who seem to get the most mention for that position:

No one doubts that Cruz has a bright future in the Republican Party, but that doesn’t mean the future is now.

Cruz, like Rubio and Rand Paul, have only barely arrived on the national stage and are many years younger than their sell-by date. None of the three has held executive office yet. Both Paul and Cruz have only won one election in their career. All three have made an extraordinary impact as freshmen senators, but they are still mainly untested outside of a single electoral cycle.

Additionally, Republicans have more options: By the time 2015 rolls around and candidates have to commit to a run, a number of GOP governors will be staking out their ground as well.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie will almost certainly use his considerable media presence and blunt style to launch the next phase of his career. Scott Walker has to win a re-election bid in Wisconsin in 2014; a win will re-establish his fighting credentials on budgets and reform.

Mike Pence got some attention early in the 2012 cycle as a potential presidential contender, but decided to go home to Indiana to add executive office to his already-impressive conservative credentials. Susana Martinez, who like Cruz was given a featured-speaker slot at the national GOP convention last year, should sail to a 2014 re-election in New Mexico, with approval ratings that have never dropped below 60%.

We can add a couple of other names to that list, too.  Nikki Haley might be a popular choice, and Rick Perry will almost certainly give it another go.  Don’t count out Bobby Jindal, either, who has built a great track record of reform in Louisiana, a state that has infamously resisted it.

Allahpundit posted Larry Sabato’s prediction that Walker would emerge as the front-runner, and I think that’s a relatively safe bet, although not even odds.  I’d guess it will be Walker and Martinez, assuming both win their re-election bids next year.  I very much doubt that the GOP are going to go for a Beltway figure in 2016, or for any Republican from the Northeast again, either.  With the plethora of executive-office holders outside of Washington ready to enter the mix, the Senate freshmen will need to get a little more seasoning before preparing for a presidential bid.


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How `bout this? Pence/Haley 2016? Or Pence/Jindal 2016?

ThePrez on August 17, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Pence would be cool!

KCB on August 17, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Jindal 2016. :)

irishspy on August 17, 2013 at 4:06 PM

There is at least someone who has enough sense around here. These “front-runners” with the exception of Christie have only been in the House or Senate for 1 term. It is quite obvious they are not ready for the Presidency, Yet certain desperate people are trying to draft them to run. My fear is that if these freshman did win, will they also mess up due to their inexperience at governing just like Barack Obama?

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM

The problem is that no matter who is the favorite among remaining Republicans, the RNC will let the media decide who will be their candidate.

Liam on August 17, 2013 at 4:11 PM

No Christie, please!

22044 on August 17, 2013 at 4:11 PM

A common rebuttal would be that Barack Obama got in even though he was a green-eared brat from the Senate, so why not someone like Cruz, or Rand Paul? M6y case would be that part of what made Barack Obama so destructive was that he was extremely inexperienced at governing, so he had to fall back upon relying on his advisers who were pure ideologues.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:11 PM

In any which case, I am partial to Pence, or Perry at this point.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:12 PM

seasoning is not as important as being a fearless leader. that would be ted cruz. the liberals have succeeded in convincing the masses that free market capitalism doesn’t work and is “unfair” despite 100 yrs of evidence to the contrary. we need someone who can articulate the case for conservative principles which are proven to work. reagan proved it 30 yrs ago, as the economy boomed. over 1 million jobs added in ONE month in 1983. gdp growth of 7-8% consistently. the libs have been trying to discredit him ever since. i just don’t see anyone other than cruz who fits the bill and can effectively sell conservatism to the ignorant fools that voted for this top down statist disaster.

phillysfinest on August 17, 2013 at 4:13 PM

My fear is that if these freshman did win, will they also mess up due to their inexperience at governing just like Barack Obama?

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM

You really think Obama screwed up because of his inexperience?

sharrukin on August 17, 2013 at 4:13 PM

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM

I do not attribute any of Zero’s “mess ups” to lack of experience. Not even a little bit.

KCB on August 17, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Harold Watson “Trey” Gowdy III

RealMc on August 17, 2013 at 4:15 PM

My fear is that if these freshman did win, will they also mess up due to their inexperience at governing just like Barack Obama?

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Obama’s not a failure because he’s a newbie. He’s a failure because he’s an intellectually incurious and fundamentally lazy person who doesn’t understand how the world works. He’s had everything handed to him his whole life and has always been told that his charm was all he’d need.

That’s not something that applies to many of the GOp Senate Freshman. I don’t think Rand Paul made it through medical school and built a successful medical practice through affirmative action for example.

I’m not saying experience is not valuable. I like Scott Walker because of his experience (and victories) in bare knuckle legislative combat. But if you pick a Rand Paul or a Ted Cruz you’re doing it because you believe in their philosophy and intellect and because at least for the limited time we’ve known them they’ve demonstrated an ability to work hard. None of those things apply to Bambi.

SoRight on August 17, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Any GOP gov, sans Christie, Rick Scott or Jeb, would do.

nobar on August 17, 2013 at 4:16 PM

*Add AZ Gov to the sans list.

nobar on August 17, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Heh, yes I think part of it was his inexperience. In fact, a large part of it was his inexperience. Bill Clinton is the same ideologue Barack Obama is, but he had experience from governing the state of Arkansas. Knowing which boundaries to push, and what to do is partly what made him a successful President. Barack Obama didn’t have that experience, so he fell on the only thing he knew, his extreme ideology and his advisors, hence the mess we are in.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I still fail to see what good would be a Republican president when the RNC seems all but determined to give up the House and refuse to retake the Senate the next two elections. Or, just as bad, what good are Republicans who vote with their Democrat ‘friends across the aisle’ 90% of the time?

Liam on August 17, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Barack Obama didn’t have that experience, so he fell on the only thing he knew, his extreme ideology and his advisors, hence the mess we are in.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM

On top of that, Obama is convinced he can do the jobs of his advisers, and he has said so. I guess he sees them as mere window dressing.

Liam on August 17, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Plucking the fruit before it ripens can ruin it. This reminds of what happened with Sarah Palin, a freshman governor of Alaska. Had she been allowed to gain some chops with a term or two, she would have been unbeatable in 2012 or 2016. Instead, she was plucked early and as a result? She has a failed half a term behind her, and is politically toxic to a large swath of voters we need. I blame McCain for this, as he didn’t have the foresight necessary.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:25 PM

With the plethora of executive-office holders outside of Washington ready to enter the mix, the Senate freshmen will need to get a little more seasoning before preparing for a presidential bid.

I’ve been saying this for years. I don’t dislike Cruz or Paul but Rubio should be a cautionary tale. A seemingly sane conservative that has gone over to the dark side and has become the Cuban version of McCain and/or the straight version of Lindsey Graham and/or the Republican version of Chuck Schumer. Not a great place to be if you have aspirations of becoming a Republican candidate for the Presidency. I leave out any comparisons to Christie because he is going to bolt from the party the minute he gets his second term and can’t tell whether he will go full Dem or become an independent in the way that Bloomberg did.

For my money the GOP should have a total outside the beltway ticket for 2016.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Liam, I never said that Obama wasn’t full of Hubris either, usually another hallmark of a person inn a job they are very inexperienced in.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Heh, yes I think part of it was his inexperience. In fact, a large part of it was his inexperience.

Then you obviously have no idea what is going on. Obama’s ‘fundamental transformation’ is taking place and it isn’t because of inexperience.

Bill Clinton is the same ideologue Barack Obama is

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:22 PM

No, he isn’t. Obamacare was rammed through hell or high-water. Clinton signed on to welfare reform because it was politically expedient to do so.

They are very different men even if they share similar leftist beliefs.

sharrukin on August 17, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Pence would be cool!

KCB on August 17, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Probably the first time ever Pence and cool were used in the same sentence.

Frankly, given the battleground nature of the state, I’m surprised there hasn’t been more buzz about Pence’s neighbor governor- John Kasich.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Absolutely correct.

The United States federal government is the largest enterprise in the world, with millions of employees including the most powerful military in history, and a budget larger than the entire economy of any other nation in the world except China and Japan.

It really should not be too much to ask that before someone declares themself ready to be in charge of it they actually run some operation larger than a congressional office staff. We have elected sitting Senators without executive experience only three times in the history of the Republic, and each was an unmitigated disaster of corruption and incompetence (Harding, Kennedy, Obama). [The only sitting Representative elected was Garfield, assassinated only a few months into his term].

Just because a guy gives a rousing and inspiring speech does NOT make him qualified to be President. Isn’t that what got us Obama in the first place?

Adjoran on August 17, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Typical rino viewpoint! Quantity vs. quality. No thanks! I am for
the conservative candidate whose positions most closely resemble what I stand for. And guess what! I don’t give a rat’s behind if he/she is a
newbie senator or a governor.

Hey, let’s look at what they stand for, how they have voted, whether they have stood up for conservative principles over how the overrated rinos want us to vote leftie like.

Amjean on August 17, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Yeah, Cruz needs seasoning. No one without experience from the Senate could ever become president–least of all a highly questionable minority candidate, with little of no visible historic track record–right?

Don L on August 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Sharrukin, I do think you are attributing a lot to Obama when the actual credit should go to Pelosi, Reid, and his advisors. They are the actual ones who have been driving the policy for the last 6 years, and Obama is their vehicle.

I am not denying that Obama has his hands in it, yet I do not think he is the evil overlord that you and a lot of other conservatives think. He is an extremely narcissistic brat who believes he owns the world, but in actually is a mere puppet.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Just because a guy gives a rousing and inspiring speech does NOT make him qualified to be President. Isn’t that what got us Obama in the first place?

Adjoran on August 17, 2013 at 4:29 PM

You’re right, Joe Biden has the experience you demand….

Don L on August 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Of COURSE, Ed is right: Cruz may be a Brilliant President – bur we should downplay that now.

Ed is ALSO right about ObamaCare: Yes, it’s a problem – but, for God’s sakes – we SHOLDN’T “Defund” it……that’ll make us look like Neanderthals….

Ed was ALSO right about Benghazi before the Last Election….yes, it APPEARS that something untoward happened – but we should BE SURE to tell Romney NOT to make an issue of it……

Ed was ALSO right in the 20008 election: Yes – it APPEARS that Obama has some “untoward connections” – but, for God’s Sakes – SOMEONE should make SURE that Palin KEEPS HER MOUTH SHUT ABOUT THAT!

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM

SHOLDN’T = “SHOULDN’T”

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Quit spit-balling.

It’s Cruz or nothing, which, when you think about it, is pretty much what the Republican Party represents.

Stepan on August 17, 2013 at 4:36 PM

blueballs to have negative orgasmic scale reaction…. in 4…3…2…she’ll be YELLING!…ED…ED…ED!…and talking to ED and the crew… in the third person again!

KOOLAID2 on August 17, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Governors have had to actually get things to work both politically and pragmatically.

Kermit on August 17, 2013 at 4:38 PM

There’s no sense “talking” to someone like Ed, allahpundit, Jass or any of the other Establishment Republicans that run this site…..

It’s a lot more useful to set up buckets filled with water on rope over doors and invite them into the room……..

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Its truly disappointing that Mr. Morrissey and some other in this forum have this narrow byzantine attitude toward the American political system that requires those who would run for higher office to be career professional politicians.
The American political system as it was envisioned by our founders was never meant to be run by the same old system of career coruptocrats who only server their own ambitions and self interests.
Instead, our system of elected government as was outlined by our forefathers, was meant to call from private service for a limited amount of time, those individuals who felt they had a worth in serving. The presidency itself was meant to be filled by this kind of private citizen.
It is people Mike Mr. Morrissey through their statements that freshman congressional leaders must yet serve years more before they have become worthy (corrupted) enough, who have given this great bushel of selfish squishes that we have now.
Please, I implore all of you its time that we stop buying intro this rubbish while we still have a government worthy of us.

paulsur on August 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Governors have had to actually get things to work both politically and pragmatically.

Kermit on August 17, 2013 at 4:38 PM

You mean like Sarah Palin?

HuH! let’s look – what did allahpundit and Ed say about HER?

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:41 PM

I hear this a lot, and think that there is some truth to it but I’ve backed off the “experience” requirement lately. This is mainly due to the majority of experienced elected politicians failing us. How much experience is required? 4 years, 8 years, 15 years? With a few exceptions, it seems that the longer they’re elected the worse they do. Is there such s thing as to much experience? I don’t want a career politician as president. Perry and Jindal are the only speculated candidates that I have any interest in voting fort in 2016 that have “solid” experience. Walker, Paul, and Cruz have each been a force to reckon with in the short amount of time they’ve been in office. You could combine all of their experience into Perry’s tenure, and maybe Jindal. I’m not interested in voting for experienced candidates like Christie, or McCain. I’m not wanting to paint myself into that box. He’s typing this country to pieces, but Obama has accomplished a lot for the liberal agenda, more than Clinton or Carter. Arguably going back to FDR. Yet they had more elected experience and executive experience. Why limit ourselves? Cruz, Paul, and Walker could each run circled around Obama (obviously they each have their own weaknesses, but Jesus won’t be on the ticket in 2016, Cruz is the most solid of the three). The job in 2016 will be turning the country around. If the best person for that job happens to be a “young buck” should we disqualify him because he hasn’t been in a elected office for 8 years? If it happens to be a person with a lot of elected experience then e choose them.

ritewhit on August 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM

I am beginning to think some here want a savior, rather than a standard-bearer.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:45 PM

EVERYONE GO SEE “KICK ASS 2″ TONIGHT OR ELSE OPRAH’S RACIST REWRITING OF REAGAN HISTORY IN “THE BUTLER” WIL WIIN THE WEEKEND!!!

DON’T LET THE RACISTS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Of course he is — but probably not in 2016.

Give me a break. Really.

“Seasoning”? What does that mean? Learning how to “work across the aisle”?

Cruz was ready for the presidency before he even became Senator. Likewise Paul.

Rubio and Christie however are congenitally unfit.

Republicans are so anal about this stuff. Because Obama is a calamity this means we all need to learn a lesson about seasoning?

rrpjr on August 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM

EVERYONE GO SEE “KICK ASS 2″ TONIGHT OR ELSE OPRAH’S RACIST REWRITING OF REAGAN HISTORY IN “THE BUTLER” WIL WIIN THE WEEKEND!!!

DON’T LET THE RACISTS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:47 PM

I am beginning to think some here want a savior, rather than a standard-bearer.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:45 PM

I want someone who will Hold A Sword, can Handle Using It — and will guiltlessly engage in the “clear-cutting” that is NEEDED in this Country!

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:49 PM

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Well done.

rrpjr on August 17, 2013 at 4:49 PM

It’s CRUZ for me. How did the “seasoned” McCain do, and oh, Gov. Romney !!!

stenwin77 on August 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

paulsur on August 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

ritewhit on August 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Well said to both.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:45 PM

I think at this point a Savior is just what we need.

Barred on August 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

I am beginning to think some here want a savior, rather than a standard-bearer.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:45 PM

A standard bearer for what exactly?

What is Chris Christie a standard bearer for other than Obama, leftism, and donuts?

Show me the no-amnesty experienced governor?

sharrukin on August 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Yeah, Cruz needs seasoning. No one without experience from the Senate could ever become president–least of all a highly questionable minority candidate, with little of no visible historic track record–right?

Don L on August 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM

I realize there was an implicit sarc tag there.

Though not a minority, Ronald Reagan might disagree with the value of Senate experience. As would Bill Clinton. Richard Nixon. GWB. I’ve left out the one-termers but the rat-eared wonder is the only President with Senate experience since LBJ. And I have nothing against Cruz other than his Harvard education.

Nevertheless, I agree that we need to take the nation back from the inside the beltway crowd who just voted that Obamacare doesn’t really apply to their senior staff or themselves but it does to that American living outside the DC metropolitan area.

I’m all for doing what the Dems did in 1976 and looking to the governors in 2016 with, hopefully, better results than a Jimmy Carter.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM

paulsur on August 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Amen.

ritewhit on August 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Ah, different ideology, same mentality.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM

As usual, folks in the commentocracy and punditocracy are asking all the wrong questions. Can we stop pretending that our vote matters worth a shit and start acknowledging that the system is broken beyond repair?

gryphon202 on August 17, 2013 at 4:55 PM

ROFL……ok when a gov starts talking and acting like cruz let me know.

unseen on August 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM

It’s CRUZ for me. How did the “seasoned” McCain do, and oh, Gov. Romney !!!

stenwin77 on August 17, 2013 at 4:50 PM

When it comes to McCain you are confusing seasoned with crusty.

There is value for a President to understand the inner-workings of Congress but it isn’t a necessity. GWB overcame the problem by his staffing choices. Obama is a failure because his staff all came with him from Chicago.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM

acknowledging that the system is broken beyond repair?

gryphon202 on August 17, 2013 at 4:55 PM

I agree its broken. not sure if it’s beyond repair yet. It’s close just not sure it can’t be fixed. It will take a lot sure but just maybe….

unseen on August 17, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Rick Perry! Rick Perry!

gophergirl on August 17, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Ed,

If it’s destined to be the governors, I can’t in good conscience vote for a Republican governor who supports Common Core. It’s the educational version of the healthcare debacle we’re facing.

Unless they start protecting states’ rights to set/develop their own educational direction, I could NEVER vote for those Republicans supporting CCSS: Jindal, Christie…and ESPECIALLY former governor Jeb Bush. He is the cheerleader for CCSS which is clearly a runaround of the political structure and indeed, the transformation of education.

Gee, where have we heard we are “5 days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America” before? These governors and Republicans are supporting the “fundamental rethinking” of education which is supported by Federal stimulus dollars. I don’t trust them. Arne Duncan should NOT be directing this educational transformation. The Federal Government was not granted this power. And these Republican governors who support these plans should be called out for their support of this administration’s blueprint.

Look at what this transformation entails and how the government will be able to make home visits based on your child’s lack of academic achievement:

http://www.missourieducationwatchdog.com/2013/08/what-happens-if-system-knows-everything.html

manateespirit on August 17, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Allahpundit posted Larry Sabato’s prediction that Walker would emerge as the front-runner, and I think that’s a relatively safe bet, although not even odds.

Heaven spare us from such bland candidates. It’s like the GOP – and HA writers – never want to actually win another election. Why so gung-ho over good but milquetoast candidates like Pawlenty and Walker?

Midas on August 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM

When it comes to McCain you are confusing seasoned with crusty.

There is value for a President to understand the inner-workings of Congress but it isn’t a necessity. GWB overcame the problem by his staffing choices. Obama is a failure because his staff all came with him from Chicago.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I’ll thank you to not lecture me on the difference between seasoned and crusty.

Cruz is the most qualified person to cross the political horizon since Reagan, and probably more qualified than Reagan in some respects.

George Bush was a freakin disaster.

stenwin77 on August 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM

As usual, folks in the commentocracy and punditocracy are asking all the wrong questions. Can we stop pretending that our vote matters worth a shit and start acknowledging that the system is broken beyond repair?

gryphon202 on August 17, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Yes; this, too.

Midas on August 17, 2013 at 5:02 PM

acknowledging that the system is broken beyond repair?

gryphon202 on August 17, 2013 at 4:55 PM

I agree its broken. not sure if it’s beyond repair yet. It’s close just not sure it can’t be fixed. It will take a lot sure but just maybe….

unseen on August 17, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Well how about this?

Rubio: Lied to get elected over Crist, then advanced amnesty by intimating that its opponents are racist.

McCain: The War Hero, next in line for ’08, pushed McCain-Feingold in direct violation of the first amendment, pushed amnesty under Bush and again under Obama, speaks of Democrats as “my good friend[s].”

John Boehner: Arguably most famous for his tendancy to shed crocodile tears on the House floor, perhaps equally as notable for his stated desire to be collegial, which may have something to do with his reluctance to push a bill to defend Obamacare, even at risk of shutting down the government (which I wouldn’t be opposed to).

Mitch McConnell

Lindsey Graham

And you bet I could go on! I mean, how many lying liars will you tolerate before you say “ENOUGH!” and start demanding that your state reps respond to federal overreach in-kind? If the system isn’t broken beyond repair yet, how will you know when it is?!

gryphon202 on August 17, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Of COURSE, Ed is right: Cruz may be a Brilliant President – bur we should downplay that now.

Ed is ALSO right about ObamaCare: Yes, it’s a problem – but, for God’s sakes – we SHOLDN’T “Defund” it……that’ll make us look like Neanderthals….

Ed was ALSO right about Benghazi before the Last Election….yes, it APPEARS that something untoward happened – but we should BE SURE to tell Romney NOT to make an issue of it……

Ed was ALSO right in the 20008 election: Yes – it APPEARS that Obama has some “untoward connections” – but, for God’s Sakes – SOMEONE should make SURE that Palin KEEPS HER MOUTH SHUT ABOUT THAT!

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Yep.

Here’s a thought, let’s get behind whomever has THE MOST conservative voice and credentials and NOT rely on the “conventional wisdom” that the RNC, Rove, The MSM, and the beltway republicans espouse, mmmmkay??

Tim Zank on August 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM

The United States federal government is the largest enterprise in the world, with millions of employees including the most powerful military in history, and a budget larger than the entire economy of any other nation in the world except China and Japan.

Adjoran on August 17, 2013 at 4:29 PM

‘largest enterprise in the world’ = too f*cking big – reduce it by half would be a good start.
‘millions of employees’ = too f*cking many – reduce them by half would be a good start.
‘budget larger than the entire economy of’ = too f*cking big – reduce it by half would be a good start.

Bring me the candidate that agrees, and they will have my support. I don’t want someone to run it the way it is now, thank you.

Midas on August 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Rick Perry! Rick Perry!

gophergirl on August 17, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Okay, GG but consider the baggage.

Niggerhead Rock.

Two departments with one to be named later (once Perry remembers).

TX immunizations of girls.

Suppport of in-state tuition for illegals.

Endorsement of Newt when he dropped out of the primaries.

I’m not saying it is all fair criticism. Most of it is not. But there is nothing about picking a national candidate is fair.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Here’s a thought, let’s get behind whomever has THE MOST conservative voice and credentials and NOT rely on the “conventional wisdom” that the RNC, Rove, The MSM, and the beltway republicans espouse, mmmmkay??

Tim Zank on August 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM

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Honestly, I think it’s too late for that. We should be thinking about how to devolve power back down to the states where our founding fathers always intended it should be. Remember how much better we thought Rubio would be than Crist? How’d that all work out?

gryphon202 on August 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM

DeMint / Cruz

Bmore on August 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM

I’ll thank you to not lecture me on the difference between seasoned and crusty.

stenwin77 on August 17, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Why? Because you clearly are too damned stupid to understand the difference. But if you want to wallow in stupidity, go for it sport- I’ll not stop you.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM

DeMint / Cruz

Bmore on August 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM

As of today, I will vote for a ticket that has Cruz on it. Not a straight-ticket vote, just for that position. No other GOP candidate will be getting a vote from me.

Cruz has time to f*ck that up, too – we’ll see.

Midas on August 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Allahpundit posted Larry Sabato’s prediction that Walker would emerge as the front-runner,

Larry Sabato is a self-promoting mediocrity and the king of conventional wisdom.

Walker is Tim Pawlenty redux, a regional politician who for some reason is afraid of his own shadow outside the confines of his bailiwick. He needs a poll to decide what to say. Not the man for this time.

rrpjr on August 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Larry Sabato is a self-promoting mediocrity and the king of conventional wisdom.

rrpjr on August 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Truer words were never spoken. And as a citizen of the Commonwealth of Virginia, we get plenty of Larry Sabato’s “wisdom.”

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Walker is Tim Pawlenty redux, a regional politician who for some reason is afraid of his own shadow outside the confines of his bailiwick. He needs a poll to decide what to say. Not the man for this time.

rrpjr on August 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Which is why we’re already seeing, and will continue to see up until the last possible moment, Ed/AP et al pushing him hard. Never did understand the enthusiasm for T-Paw, or why HA seems hell-bent on the meekest/mildest candidate available. Nothing against Pawlenty/Walker personally, they seem good guys, good where they are – just not the kind of candidate that’s going to bring fervor and enthusiasm when it’s needed. Hillary would shred either of them, and any debates will have them curling up in their shell while HRC and the moderator take turns beating them about the face and neck with the liberal lies du jour.

Midas on August 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Its truly disappointing that Mr. Morrissey and some other in this forum have this narrow byzantine attitude toward the American political system that requires those who would run for higher office to be career professional politicians.
The American political system as it was envisioned by our founders was never meant to be run by the same old system of career coruptocrats who only server their own ambitions and self interests.
Instead, our system of elected government as was outlined by our forefathers, was meant to call from private service for a limited amount of time, those individuals who felt they had a worth in serving. The presidency itself was meant to be filled by this kind of private citizen.
It is people Mike Mr. Morrissey through their statements that freshman congressional leaders must yet serve years more before they have become worthy (corrupted) enough, who have given this great bushel of selfish squishes that we have now.
Please, I implore all of you its time that we stop buying intro this rubbish while we still have a government worthy of us.

paulsur on August 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Great points. I agree that “youthful” politicians are the best. My caveat would be to add executive experience. One cannot lead this behemoth, aka the US federal government, without executive experience. That requires a different mindset than a legislator or lawyer. I love Cruz and his principled stand, but his lack of executive experience (I would include business leadership as a plus because the individual has lead a group of people and their name is on the line for results) gives me pause.

conservative pilgrim on August 17, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Midas on August 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Agreed. The GOPe worries. Should Cruz ever become part of that. He too will be dead to me.

Bmore on August 17, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Don’t count out Bobby Jindal, either, who has built a great track record of reform in Louisiana, a state that has infamously resisted it.

Ed, no one you mentioned even comes close to the incredible list of conservative accomplishments that Jindal has, even though he’s still quite young.
Jindal’s career began when he reformed LA’s health-care system before he was 26 yrs old.

Besides, it really is about time we nominated a POTUS candidate who’s not an old White guy.

itsnotaboutme on August 17, 2013 at 5:16 PM

DeMint / Cruz

Bmore on August 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Um…. Has Jim DeMint even expressed an interest in going back into politics? I think he’d be awesome but you need the passion if you are going to do the job right. McCain phoned it in and Romney did little better. Keep in mind I am talking about passion and not ambition. Totally different things.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 5:16 PM

itsnotaboutme on August 17, 2013 at 5:16 PM

I like Bobby Jindal. I voted for him- first as my Congressman and later as my governor.

But seriously, does he have Presidential aspirations? There is no talk of him headed to Iowa or New Hampshire (which inexplicably matters).

I’d love for him to come out and challenge Landrieu for the Senate- which he would win in a walk. I’m less certain he really wants to become President. At least at this time in his life.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 5:21 PM

EVERYONE GO SEE “KICK A__ 2″ TONIGHT OR ELSE OPRAH’S RACIST REWRITING OF REAGAN HISTORY IN “THE BUTLER” WIL WIIN THE WEEKEND!!!

DON’T LET THE RACISTS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Hey, OT goofball, that’s like saying,

“Everyone kill yourself so cancer won’t be the #1 killer!”

Don’t see Kick-A__2, because it’s downright evil.

To paraphrase your rant:

DON’T LET THE PROFANE PERVERTS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

itsnotaboutme on August 17, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Sorry, not paraphrase. I should’ve said rephrase. :)

itsnotaboutme on August 17, 2013 at 5:23 PM

There’s no sense “talking” to someone like Ed, allahpundit, Jass or any of the other Establishment Republicans that run this site…..

It’s a lot more useful to set up buckets filled with water on rope over doors and invite them into the room……..

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

LOL. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that they don’t think of themselves as being “establishment” Republicans. So sick of the use of the word “establishment” anyway, but that’s another topic for another day.

Buy Danish on August 17, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Look to the governors in 2016

Yes Yes Yes

Forget anyone in or from Washington D.C. – they are the problem – not the solution.

jake-the-goose on August 17, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Walker/Martinez 2016?

Zaggs on August 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM

It’s a flexible standard, Bush 1 was so overqualified, that they put up Dukakis, the ‘competence governor, then they went for another mediocraty like Clinton, who they painted as brilliant, of course, they chose Dole who was equally experienced, but squirrel, It’s like the issue with veterans, it matters in 2000 and 2004, but not in 2008, or 1992 or 1996.

narciso on August 17, 2013 at 5:30 PM

I would figure go see Jobs,

narciso on August 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

No one doubts that Cruz has a bright future in the Republican Party, but that doesn’t mean the future is now.

The operative words are “Republican Party”. I don’t see him attracting any support beyond the conservative base.

kcewa on August 17, 2013 at 5:35 PM

We should peak our leadership from those who have been in the thick of the fight, Walker, Cruz, Paul, maybe Daniels, not those whose turn is next, of course, one could go to the one who selected those first three in the first place.

narciso on August 17, 2013 at 5:39 PM

DON’T LET THE PROFANE PERVERTS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

itsnotaboutme on August 17, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Oh, LOOK - a Worshipper of OFRAH and The Smell of Her FEET!!

I’ll say it again:

EVERYONE GO SEE “KICK ASS 2″ TONIGHT OR ELSE OPRAH’S RACIST REWRITING OF REAGAN HISTORY IN “THE BUTLER” WIL WIIN THE WEEKEND!!!

DON’T LET THE RACISTS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

williamg on August 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Walker/Martinez 2016?

Zaggs on August 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM

I would love to see this but i think Martinez has ruled herself out for 2016.

The problems with a Governer running for president are:

1. do they have time to govern and run for president?

2. It’s too easy for their in state rivals to torpedo them if they do run (see Palin.

kcewa on August 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Palin/Cruz

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Pence is a very interesting figure as is Jindal, Martinez, and Walker..:)

Dire Straits on August 17, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Palin/Cruz

Schadenfreude on August 17, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Ha! ; )

Bmore on August 17, 2013 at 5:47 PM

I’m looking for a website with a conservative viewpoint. Anyone know one?

beatcanvas on August 17, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Pence is a very interesting figure as is Jindal, Martinez, and Walker..:)

Dire Straits on August 17, 2013 at 5:46 PM

My bad forgot Perry..:)

Dire Straits on August 17, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Why? Because you clearly are too damned stupid to understand the difference. But if you want to wallow in stupidity, go for it sport- I’ll not stop you.

Happy Nomad on August 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM

When you have to stoop to calling people who have a different opinion than you “stupid”, I think you’ve lost the argument.

While I continue to wallow in stupidity, go ahead and wallow with the other RINOs in arrogance and ideology. … and watch our side lose another election.

stenwin77 on August 17, 2013 at 5:50 PM

You really think Obama screwed up because of his ineandxperience?

sharrukin on August 17, 2013 at 4:13 PM

You really think Obama screwed up? He has succeeded beyond his and his father’s wildest imagination. Do not mistake his vile evil for inexperience.

NOMOBO on August 17, 2013 at 5:52 PM

While I continue to wallow in stupidity, go ahead and wallow with the other RINOs in arrogance and ideology. … and watch our side lose another election.

Last I checked, the “conservative messiahs” kepp losing the nomination too. Just because someone likes there nominee having experience and an actual track record behind them doesn’t make them a RINO or establishment.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 5:53 PM

beatcanvas on August 17, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Lolz! Good luck with that. Until you do you’re stuck with us. Let me know if you do. ; )

Bmore on August 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM

But Palin was an extremely successful and popular governor.

I have always been impressed with Jindal.

Hopefully we’ll see who can “sell” themselves to conservatives.

But if Republicans end up with another establishment choice (with the always helpful assist from the left), count me out. Been there, done that twice, not doing it again.

Just saying.

bertielou on August 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM

kepp=keep.

There=Their.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Instead, our system of elected government as was outlined by our forefathers, was meant to call from private service for a limited amount of time, those individuals who felt they had a worth in serving. The presidency itself was meant to be filled by this kind of private citizen.

Well, if it is a “private citizen” you want, Cruz is not your man. Cruz has spent his entire adult life working for government. From the time of his graduation from law school in 1995 to today, 18 years of continual government employment.

AngusMc on August 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Spot on liam @4:11

The lsm will pick our candidate once again

cmsinaz on August 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM

You really think Obama screwed up? He has succeeded beyond his and his father’s wildest imagination. Do not mistake his vile evil for inexperience.

NOMOBO on August 17, 2013 at 5:52 PM

No. He has done most of what he intended to do, though there was more that he wanted. His destructive behavior has been limited somewhat by his own incompetence, but I am aware that he isn’t some naive politico.

sharrukin on August 17, 2013 at 5:57 PM

But Palin was an extremely successful and popular governor.

Then why does she have a failed half-term governorship then? Don’t give me any bull about it being the democrats fault. After all, they did the same thing to Walker when he showed the unions their proper place.

eva3071 on August 17, 2013 at 5:57 PM

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