Video: Egypt’s Islamists continue attacks on Christians, churches

posted at 12:01 pm on August 16, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Kudos to ABC News for keeping on top of a disturbing aspect of the unrest in Egypt — the targeting of Christians by Islamists furious over the ouster of Mohamed Morsi.  The Muslim Brotherhood and the military are locked in mortal battle in Cairo, Alexandria, Giza, and other centers of Egypt, but Christians across the country have come under attack from the Brotherhood and its political allies ever since the coup — and their situation is growing worse:

The Islamic supporters of Egypt’s ousted president who have been battling the military have turned their rage on members of the country’s Coptic Christian minority, attacking churches, monasteries, schools, Christian owned shops as well as individuals.

Churches across the country sustained attacks for a second straight day today, according to rights groups, state media and Egyptian security forces. Individual Copts say they fear reprisal attacks, with one video purportedly showing supporters of ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi beating a Coptic taxi driver to death in Alexandria, Egypt’s second largest city. …

Forty churches were burned across Egypt Wednesday, according to local nongovernmental organizations and the Coptic Church’s youth group. The Egyptian military pledged to reconstruct and restore all the burned churches, state media reported.

The Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, a human rights group based in Cairo, documented additional attacks against Coptic monasteries, schools and shops, according to the group’s representative Ishaq Ibrahim, The Associated Press reported.

CNN is also covering the attacks on churches and Christians in this paroxysm of rage and hatred:

Bishop Angaelos, the Cairo-born head of the Coptic Orthodox Church in the United Kingdom, said he was told by colleagues in Egypt that 52 churches were attacked in a 24-hour span that started Wednesday, as well as numerous Christians’ homes and businesses.

Ishak Ibrahim, a researcher with the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, told CNN he had confirmed attacks on at least 30 churches so far, in addition to the targeting of church-related facilities, including schools and cultural centers.

Those churches reportedly set ablaze Wednesday included St. George Church in Sohag, a city south of Cairo on the Nile River.

And the new day brought new attacks. Prince Tadros Church in Fayoum, which is southwest of Cairo, was stormed and burned Thursday night, according to the official Middle East News Agency.

Meanwhile, the rage continues in Cairo. At least 17 people have been killed since protesters hit the streets today, a number that will certainly rise:

Security and health officials say at least 17 people have been killed across Egypt after tens of thousands of Muslim Brotherhood supporters took to the streets in defiance of a military-imposed state of emergency following bloodshed earlier this week.

Security officials say eight people were killed in the Nile Delta province of Dumyat north of Cairo and four people were killed in the Suez Canal city of Ismailiya. The cause of their deaths was not immediately clear.

Just as in other conflicts in the region, it’s almost impossible to choose a sympathetic side — except for the Christians and other minorities taking the brunt of the anger.


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Which is why I have no sympathy for the MB.

rbj on August 16, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Kyrie Elieson (Christ have mercy).

pendell2 on August 16, 2013 at 12:03 PM

The “religion of peace”, my hindquarters.

kingsjester on August 16, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Still, SOME Muslims get the idea that letting the brotherhood burn down churches is a bad, bad idea for everyone.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/1170946_508967535857329_1904301563_n.jpg

After all, thugs and fascists may start with unpopular minorities but they never stop there. In this I agree with the late Hitchens: Death to fascism! It’s no prettier when it’s done by Muslims than by blonde Europeans!

pendell2 on August 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM

The fewer Muslim Brotherhood supporters in the world, the better.

Yet, Obama and McCain want to support them in Syria.

bw222 on August 16, 2013 at 12:11 PM

This is why I have no sympathy when the Egyptian army goes after them and destroys their mosques.

Illinidiva on August 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM

It is not “unrest.”

It is war.

Islamofascism will kill many many many innocents…because they do, and they can, and nobody wants to call them what they are…and so many want to just hold hands and sing Kumbaya, and give Islamists everything they demand just so there is no “unrest.”

MB started this war.

They deserve to be destroyed.

Where are our progressive friends?

You know, if it saves the life of just one child?

That sort of pap?

coldwarrior on August 16, 2013 at 12:15 PM

my friend’s father is a Christian missionary in Cairo. No word on his condition.

ted c on August 16, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Wouldn’t have been better to have found a suitable replacement for Mubarak than put up with this for the past 2 years? He was getting old and it would have behooved us to to have supported his “retirement” with AFTER reforms were put in place.

Tater Salad on August 16, 2013 at 12:26 PM

If Egypt is “crucial” to us we might as well pray for a meteor to kill us all.

echosyst on August 16, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Young black and brown people who are organizing to make the world a better place.
 
libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 10:54 AM

rogerb on August 16, 2013 at 12:32 PM

This is why I have no sympathy when the Egyptian army goes after them and destroys their mosques.

Illinidiva on August 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Can’t see that happening, nor would any Christian…Coptic, Catholic, Protestant, etc…even want or wish that would happen.

JetBoy on August 16, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Young black and brown people who are organizing to make the world a better place.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 10:54 AM

rogerb on August 16, 2013 at 12:32 PM

ROFL

Well played.

I can’t wait until this happens here.

Bishop on August 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM

There no such thing as “persecuted Christians” in the middle east.
 
Salahuddin on February 25, 2012 at 10:12 AM

rogerb on August 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM

and Zer0 and Kerry will turn a blind eye…or give a tough sounding speech.

kirkill on August 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Tater Salad on August 16, 2013 at 12:26 PM

That was the plan…Mubarak already announced that he would not seek re-election, nor would his son seek office…and he then appointed a friend of mine, now deceased, to be interim President, until local and national elections could be held last October…and several nascent parties given time to organize…but…

Encouraged by the Obama Administration was that whole Tahir Square thing, exploited by the press, made it look like everybody in Egypt was just giddy about the MB coming in to save the day…and Obama made to look like the best friend Egypt ever had.

The Obama Administration with Powers, Rice, and Hillary leading the pack, demanded that Mubarak step down immediately and that elections be held immediately…

And the only organization in town, other than Mubarak’s party (which was prevented from taking part) was the Moslem Brotherhood…and only MB members and those friendly to MB could actually have their vote count. No Copts, no Christians, even many “moderate” Egyptians were prevented from voting due to “technicalities” such as wearing a necktie, not having a beard, or not wearing hijab or not being accompanied by an older brother or uncle…

The military ouster of Morsi was to stem Morsi and the MB from carving out huge segments of Egypt for their own, raiding the national treasury, killing Christians and Copts, and otherwise taking Egypt back to the tenth century…

MB declared war, demanded war, begged for war.

The Egyptian Army is merely acceding to their request.

coldwarrior on August 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Jihadwatch has a partial list of Christian Church destruction w/ photos and sources.

Muslim Brotherhood supporters destroy churches all over Egypt

Churches

Alexandria

1.Father Maximus Church

Arish
1.St George Church | Burned | Source

Assiut
1.Good Shepherds Monastery | Nuns attacked
2.Angel Michael Church | Surrounded
3.St George Coptic Orthodox Church | Photo, Photo, Photo, YouTube

4.Al-Eslah Church| Burned | Source
5.Adventist Church | Pastor and his wife kidnapped | Photo
6.St Therese Church | Photo
7.Apostles Church | Burning | Source
8.Holy Revival Church | Burning | Source

Beni Suef
1.The Nuns School | Photo
2.St George Church | al-Wasta

Cairo
1.St Fatima Basilica | Heliopolis | Attempted Attack

Fayoum (Five churches)
1.St Mary Church | El Nazlah | Gallery
2.St Damiana Church | Robbed and burned
3.Amir Tawadros (St Theodore) Church
4.Evangelical Church | al-Zorby Village | Looting and destruction
5.Church of Joseph | Burned | Source
6.Franciscan School | Burned | Source

Gharbiya
1.Diocese of St Paul | Burned | Source

Giza
1.Father Antonios
2.Atfeeh Bishopric

Minya (Around twelve churches)
1.Church of the Virgin Mary and Father Abram | Delga, Deir Mawas | Source
2.St Mina Church | Abu Hilal Kebly, Beni Hilal | Source, photo
3.Baptist Church | Beni Mazar | Source
4.Deir Mawas Bishopric
5.Delga Church | Attacked (Previously attacked with fire)
6.The Jesuit Fathers Church | Abu Hilal district
7.St Mark Church | Abu Hilal district
8.St Joseph Nunnery | Photo, photo
9.Amir Tadros Church | Photo, photo, photo, album
10.Evangelical Church | Photo
11.Anba Moussa al-Aswad Church
12.Apostles Church | Source

Qena
1.St Mary’s Church | Attempted Burning

Sohag
1.St George Church |Photo album, photo, photo, video, source, source
2.St Damiana | Attacked and burned | Source
3.Virgin Mary | Attacked and burned | Source
4.St Mark Church & Community Center
5.Anba Abram Church | Destroyed and burned | Source

Suez
1.St Saviours Anglican Church | Source
2.Franciscan Church and School | Street 23 | Burned |Photo, photo, source/photos, photos
3.Holy Shepherd Monastery and Hospital | Photo
4.Good Shepherd Church (molotov cocktail thrown)- Relationship with Holy Shepherd Monastery unknown.
5.Greek Orthodox Church | Photo, Photo

Christian Institutions
•House of Father Angelos (Pastor of Church of the Virgin Mary and Father Abram) | Delga, Minya | Burned | Source
•Properties and Markets of Copts | al-Gomhorreya Street, Assiut
•Seventeen Coptic homes | Delga, Minya | Burned | Source, Source
•YMCA | Minya| Burned | Photo
•Coptic Homes | Qulta Street, Assiut | Attacked
•Offices of the Evangelical Foundation & Oum al-Nour | Minya
•Coptic-owned shops, pharmacy, and hotels | Karnak and Cleopatra Streets, Luxor | Attacked and Looted
•Dahabeya Nile Boat | Minya| Church-owned | Source,Photo, Photo
•Bible Society bookshop | Cairo | Burned | Photo
•Bible Society | Fayoum | Photo
•Bible Society | al-Gomohoreya Street, Assiut | Photo, Photo

Monstrous

Terp Mole on August 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM

These Obama-allied Koranimals also believe they have a duty to kidnap and rape the orphan Coptic girls. Of course, the ophan Coptic girls are not the only targets of their rape-jihad;

Many who return home indicate that they were raped and told they could not go home because their families would never accept them back. Many are beaten; others are forced into domestic servitude. They are not allowed to leave where they are held without a member of their captor’s family keeping watch. They eventually are brainwashed into thinking the only way to be safe is to convert. Their families, who have been searching frantically for their daughters, sisters and wives — without any help from the police — often never discover their fate.

Terp Mole on August 16, 2013 at 12:42 PM

‘Awesome! Fewer Christians make the world a better place!’

- Armin Tamzarian

Resist We Much on August 16, 2013 at 12:42 PM

There no such thing as “persecuted Christians” in the middle east.

Salahuddin on February 25, 2012 at 10:12 AM

rogerb on August 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Ha! Salahuddin sounds like Ahmadinejad: ‘There are no homosexuals in Iran.’

Resist We Much on August 16, 2013 at 12:43 PM

To bolster their sex-jihad, the Muslim Brotherhood in Minya have torched Soldiers of Christ Orphanage in Palace Square.

The orphanage lied next to the MB brothel in Palace Square, Minya.

Terp Mole on August 16, 2013 at 12:45 PM

The military ouster of Morsi was to stem Morsi and the MB from carving out huge segments of Egypt for their own, raiding the national treasury, killing Christians and Copts, and otherwise taking Egypt back to the tenth century…

MB declared war, demanded war, begged for war.

The Egyptian Army is merely acceding to their request.

coldwarrior on August 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Exactly. There is no one except the Military that can save Egypt from what you describe the MB intended to do.

The Egyptian Military as least know who there enemies are, at home and abroad. More than we do here in the U.S.

bluefox on August 16, 2013 at 1:05 PM

I spent four years of my life in Saudi Arabia. I know more than a tad about Islam.

Speaking as an atheist, this s**t makes my blood boil. I could turn purple whenever I read or see or hear about people pulling other people apart because of religion. I have known splendid examples of humanity that were Muslim, Christian, Hindu, atheist…whatever. Your religion doesn’t make you special, Snowflake. The content of your character does.

Oh, and in four years in Saudi, I knew about 8 Muslims whom I respected (and I mean respected utterly). Religion of Peace, my fat Irish ass.

thejackal on August 16, 2013 at 1:15 PM

The Egyptian military pledged to reconstruct and restore all the burned churches, state media reported.

It’s commendable that the military made that pledge, but a report stated that one of the churches torched was built in the 4th century AD. How do they plan to restore that?

oldleprechaun on August 16, 2013 at 1:18 PM

The Egyptian military pledged to reconstruct and restore all the burned churches, state media reported.

 
It’s commendable that the military made that pledge, but a report stated that one of the churches torched was built in the 4th century AD. How do they plan to restore that?
 
oldleprechaun on August 16, 2013 at 1:18 PM

 
That’s twenty years in the future for quite a few of those folks.

rogerb on August 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Just as in other conflicts in the region, it’s almost impossible to choose a sympathetic side — except for the Christians and other minorities taking the brunt of the anger.

Ed,you are a total and complete squish–almost a troll here. It is VERY possible to take sides, and it ain’t the Muslim Brotherhood. If you have any feeling or support for the Coptic Christians then your support needs to be with the Military who are their only chance of survival.

Get your head on straight.

NOMOBO on August 16, 2013 at 1:31 PM

I’m observing in amazement, listening to the BBC, while the American Media continues as a flaccid failure. Egypt, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, all belongs to King Putt but the LIVeral’s resonate the claim … it’s still Bushes fault.
Hillary (The Killer) must be beside herself groping for excuses and obfuscations so that she keeps this Shiite storm away from her resume.
I pity the average Egyptian. Their society in total turmoil and all they wanted was a fair shake from government. Not going to happen until they pay the grim reaper.
I’m thinking I’m gonna keep my powder dry.

Missilengr on August 16, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Barbarian Savage Goons!

Oh there from the 3rd Century as well!!

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM

I know more than a tad about Islam …. Muslim, Christian … Your religion doesn’t make you special

thejackal

One religion kills others IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION.
– guess which one, Snowflake.

williampeck1958 on August 16, 2013 at 1:38 PM

MB declared war, demanded war, begged for war.

The Egyptian Army is merely acceding to their request.

coldwarrior on August 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM

coldwarrior:You mirror my thinking,only you express yourself alot
better,and heres a link,to cement your facts———:)

SAT-7 CEO Commentary
Understanding the present situation in Egypt
- Written by Dr. Terence Ascott, CEO and Founder, SAT-7 International
******************

Nicosia, 18:00 CET, August 15, 2013
***********************************

Many of us involved in Christian ministry in Egypt are appalled at the misunderstandings about the situation in Egypt being propagated by even normally balanced international media like the BBC, and the way it has, in general, portrayed the Muslim Brotherhood as the victims of injustice.

So, on behalf of myself, Ramez Atallah (General Secretary for The Bible Society of Egypt), Pastor Fayez Ishaq (part of the leadership team at Kasr El Dubarrah Evangelical Church), other ministry leaders in Egypt and the leadership of Middle East Concern, please allow me to paint a bigger picture of what has been going on the past year or so:

Yes, former President Morsi was elected “democratically” in June 2012, but only by the slimmest of majorities, and only 13 million people (out of a total population of 83 million) voted for Morsi at all. And yet he took this as a mandate to do as he wanted, with a winner-takes-all attitude. His new government was not inclusive and he quickly appointed former Muslim Brotherhood leaders (some with previous convictions for violence or incitement to violence) to serve as regional Governors or government Ministers. In November 2012, he illegally gave himself new sweeping powers to act without censure, and rushed through a new pro-Islamic constitution despite the protests and boycotts from liberals, moderate Muslims and Christians, and then he refused to call for new elections – as had previously been agreed to do after a new constitution had been adopted.

And, of course, the economy was very poorly managed by the new Ministers, whose only apparent qualification for office was the fact that they were Muslim Brotherhood loyalists. By the end of 2012 the country’s infrastructure had begun to fall apart, electricity and fuel supplies became unreliable, prices for basic commodities soared and Egypt struggled to get much needed international financing.

By June 30, 2013, on the first anniversary of Morsi’s election to office, the Egyptian people had had enough! Perhaps as many as 30 million people came out to demonstrate against Morsi continuing in office – this included many who had voted for Morsi a year before and, even if the figure of 30 million cannot be independently verified, it is clear that the number of people on the street was far more than the number of people who had ever voted for Morsi. But, unlike the President of any normal democracy, he refused to go, or even seek a renewed mandate through new elections – confirming to many that the Muslim Brotherhood were just using the new democracy in Egypt to establish a theocracy.

In a situation like this, the last line of defence for democracy is the army. They alone have the power to re-start the democratic process and, by (very) popular demand and with due notice, the army did step in and remove the former President – to the absolute delight and relief of MOST Egyptians!

In the past 6 weeks the Muslim Brotherhood has occupied a number of public spaces, to demonstrate for the reinstatement of the former President (currently being held by the army and facing charges related to abuse of power, including substantial material and intelligence support to Hamas). Unlike the peaceful occupation of Tahrir Square by demonstrators in January 2011, and again at the end of June 2013, these Muslim Brotherhood occupations were dominated by calls for violence against the army, the police, the liberals and, specifically, the Coptic Christians in Egypt – all resulting in the violence witnessed on August 14th, when police stations, hospitals, private and public property were destroyed. Many Christian churches (at least 40 so far), homes and businesses were also attacked, as well as a monastery, three religious societies, three key bookshops belonging to the Bible Society in Egypt, three Christian schools and an orphanage.

The Coptic Orthodox Pope, HH Tawadrous II made a statement about the attacks on churches this week, saying that “this had been expected and, as Egyptians and Christians, we are considering our church buildings as a sacrifice to be made for our beloved Egypt”. Other church leaders have made similar statements, stressing that church buildings don’t make the Church but the Church is the Body of Christ, made of people who have their faith in Him, and that is getting stronger as it passes through these challenging times.

It is also important and encouraging to note that some Muslims went to protect churches and that, in return, many Christians then sent messages to their fellow Muslim citizens saying, “buildings can be rebuilt again, but you are priceless, so stay safe, and don’t worry about the churches”. And the Egyptian government also announced today that the State would take the financial responsibility for the rebuilding of damaged churches.

The Muslim Brotherhood have been, and remain very effective in portraying themselves as the victims to the media, pointing to how Morsi had been “democratically” elected and that the army “coup” was a major setback to the country’s democratic progress. They have known what buttons to push with the Western press and this seems to be the version that most of the World is hearing – but it is not a version of truth that resonates with the vast majority of Egyptians.

And, while the loss of life these past few days has been most regrettable it has not only been Muslim Brotherhood supporters that have died, and there has been scant reporting on the Muslim Brotherhood’s attempts to destabilise Egypt, its calls for violence against the government and its supporters; and there has been a total lack of reporting concerning weapons that the Brotherhood had in the camps and used against the army as it sought to dismantle the sit-ins.

In closing, can I ask for your prayers for this important country – the largest in the Arab World, with the largest Christian Community in the Middle East.

Please pray that:

The current violence will end soon
The effective rule of law and order will be re-established for the benefit of all citizens
There will be effective protection of church and other property against attacks by extremists
Egypt will be governed for the benefit of all its citizens, with people of different persuasions able to live alongside one another peaceably

Egyptian Christians will have opportunity to play an increasingly prominent and effective role in addressing the needs of all Egyptians and helping to bring healing and reconciliation in the country
==============

https://www.sat7usa.org/understanding-the-present-situation-in-egypt?srctid=1&erid=134888&trid=9524f6e5-2c3e-4b61-8c4f-3ed3f7e6a4f0

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Egypt’s crackdown on Morsi supporters

Reports a fire has broken out in building near Cairo’s Ramses Square – @AymanM, @Carina_bn

1 min ago by editor

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM

rogerb you are a tresure.

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2013 at 1:47 PM

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Is this spam?

Freddy on August 16, 2013 at 1:52 PM

AlArabiya_Eng Al Arabiya English 7m
#BreakingNews: Arab Contractor’s building on Fire in #Cairo : Al Arabiya http://ara.tv/5nq39 . #Egypt pic.twitter.com/1rB7mrOws8
Details
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https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/368428167666479106/photo/1

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:52 PM

LIVE FEED:

Fire in Cairo:

http://rt.com/on-air/egypt-protest-march-anger/

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Please pray that:

The current violence will end soon
The effective rule of law and order will be re-established for the benefit of all citizens
There will be effective protection of church and other property against attacks by extremists
Egypt will be governed for the benefit of all its citizens, with people of different persuasions able to live alongside one another peaceably

To Mr. Morrisey:
I hope this is your wish as well. And the only way this can possibly happen is for the Military to bring order and quell the extremists.

HAVE THE COURAGE AND MORAL DIGNITY TO CHOOSE SIDES! Quit being a squish!

NOMOBO on August 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Is this spam?

Freddy on August 16, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Freddy:

An opinion,from someone who claims to be in Egypt,
and knows whats going on,on the ground!

Sounds logical to me!!

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:55 PM

I know where my sympahies lie, and they are not with the MB, which has declared jihad against all but fundamentalist Muslims.

Bill Roggio describes the allies of Morsi and the MB, and the picture ain’t pretty.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/08/gaza_jihadists_call.php

onlineanalyst on August 16, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Egypt’s crackdown on Morsi supporters

More: Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood calls for nationwide protests ‘daily until the coup ends’ – statement via @Reuters

2 mins ago from live.reuters.com by editor
===============================================

https://twitter.com/Reuters

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Bill Roggio describes the allies of Morsi and the MB, and the picture ain’t pretty.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/08/gaza_jihadists_call.php

onlineanalyst on August 16, 2013 at 1:58 PM

onlineanalyst:

Going to get much more bloodier!!

The Goons don’t know when to quit!:)

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Please pray that:

The current violence will end soon
The effective rule of law and order will be re-established for the benefit of all citizens
There will be effective protection of church and other property against attacks by extremists
Egypt will be governed for the benefit of all its citizens, with people of different persuasions able to live alongside one another peaceably

To Mr. Morrisey:
I hope this is your wish as well. And the only way this can possibly happen is for the Military to bring order and quell the extremists.

HAVE THE COURAGE AND MORAL DIGNITY TO CHOOSE SIDES! Quit being a squish!

NOMOBO on August 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM

NOMOBO:

Ed,didn’t post that,I did!!

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM

It’s time to call this Muslim-Brotherhood massacre of native Egyptian Copts what it is– GENOCIDE.

Terp Mole on August 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Egypt’s crackdown on Morsi supporters

Sen. Ted Cruz on Egypt: ‘As there can no longer be any reasonable doubt that what occurred in July was a military coup, the 1st step is to send an unequivocal message that the United States is a nation of laws and suspend aid to Egypt’ – via @NBCNews

33 secs ago by editor

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Egypt’s crackdown on Morsi supporters

Egyptian security officials say death toll in clashes across country rises to at least 60 – @AP

4 mins ago by editor

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Egypt’s crackdown on Morsi supporters

Live video: Watch live scenes from Cairo where violence continues – @NBCNews

2 mins ago from http://www.nbcnews.com by editor
=============================================

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Sorry, Ted and Rand, but I do not view what has happened in Egypt a military coup.

onlineanalyst on August 16, 2013 at 2:27 PM

When Christians in Iraq came under fire by Islamic radicals, the news media thought it was important to assert Bush caused it by taking Hussein out. Why don’t they think its important to point out PBHO facilitated this?

smoothsailing on August 16, 2013 at 2:41 PM

The Morsi/Egypt and Benghazi nexus is clearer by the minute:
http://www.humanevents.com/2013/08/16/behind-benghazi-muslim-brotherhood-and-obama-administration/

And the Obysmal policy trumped by Hillary, Susan Rice, Samantha Powell, John McCain and Lindsay Graham is on the losing side of history.

onlineanalyst on August 16, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Ed,didn’t post that,I did!!

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM

canopfer, sorry for the misunderstanding. I was using that piece of your comment to chastise Ed for saying:

Just as in other conflicts in the region, it’s almost impossible to choose a sympathetic side

in his original article.

I’m very sorry that I didn’t post that part of your comments in a blockquote attributed to you, but I was so much seeing red that Ed seems to find it difficult to choose a side here. My outrage to this point was only increased upon reading the article you posted.

NOMOBO on August 16, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Kudos to ABC News for keeping on top of a disturbing aspect of the unrest in Egypt — the targeting of Christians by Islamists furious over the ouster of Mohamed Morsi.

I do not give Kudos to ABC. This stuff is happening EVERY DAY ALL OVER THE WORLD, including here, and they report virtually none of it. The only times that they report it is when they are absolutely forced to because they know some competitor is planning to and it’s too big to ignore.

The day that I might consider giving any sort of ‘kudos’ to any of these scumbag networks is the day that they actually start to report that, contrary to what we’ve been told by every politician, policy maker, pundit, news media outlet, and university, Islam is in fact not a religion of peace, but a religion of war that was founded by a mass murdering pedophile. When I hear that, maybe I will start paying attention to these lying, murder-abetting scumbags again. Till then, screw them all. Way too little way too late as far as I’m concerned.

WhatSlushfund on August 16, 2013 at 3:25 PM

https://www.sat7usa.org/understanding-the-present-situation-in-egypt?srctid=1&erid=134888&trid=9524f6e5-2c3e-4b61-8c4f-3ed3f7e6a4f0

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Thank you so much for posting that canopfor. I thot this “It is also important and encouraging to note that some Muslims went to protect churches and that, in return, many Christians then sent messages to their fellow Muslim citizens saying, “buildings can be rebuilt again, but you are priceless, so stay safe, and don’t worry about the churches”. was an expression of what a peacemaker would say.

God Bless them and praying as he requested.

bluefox on August 16, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Sorry, Ted and Rand, but I do not view what has happened in Egypt a military coup.

onlineanalyst on August 16, 2013 at 2:27 PM

I don’t either. Had it been a Military coup, they would have started it. The Egyptian people started protesting and for just cause and that is what started all of it.

bluefox on August 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM

After all, thugs and fascists may start with unpopular minorities but they never stop there. In this I agree with the late Hitchens: Death to fascism! It’s no prettier when it’s done by Muslims than by blonde Europeans! – pendell2 on August 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Well said, Mr. Hitchens. You were taken from us too soon.

SC.Charlie on August 16, 2013 at 3:58 PM

What is shocking is that the Saudi government is an enemy of the Muslim Brotherhood. And, is opening their pocketbook and supporting the new government in Cairo. I believe that they have promised funding the new government with foreign aid in the amount of five billion dollars.

SC.Charlie on August 16, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Oops, I failed to mention in my previous post that no Christian Churches are allowed in Saudi Arabia, even though they back the new government in Cairo which is fighting the Muslim Brotherhood……… whose members are currently burning Christian Churches in Egypt. Human logic does not apply when dealing with the religion of Peace and/or the whole of the Middle East.

SC.Charlie on August 16, 2013 at 4:09 PM

The Obama Doctrine

“There is a Youtube video out there that sparked all of this violence.
Someone in America needs to go to jail.”

MichaelGabriel on August 16, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Way too little way too late as far as I’m concerned.

WhatSlushfund on August 16, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Actions speak louder than words, whether past or present.

bluefox on August 16, 2013 at 4:49 PM

What is shocking is that the Saudi government is an enemy of the Muslim Brotherhood. And, is opening their pocketbook and supporting the new government in Cairo. I believe that they have promised funding the new government with foreign aid in the amount of five billion dollars.

SC.Charlie on August 16, 2013 at 4:04 PM

That is a lot of aid. Self preservation or at the behest of another Country? Hard to tell yet.

bluefox on August 16, 2013 at 4:54 PM

bluefox on August 16, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Can’t recall the precise years, but some point in the past ten years or so, al-Sisi was the Egyptian Defense Attache in Saudi Arabia…made a number of high-level friends, and also facilitated a couple unusual contacts between some “hardline” Arab states and Israel, among others. He knows how to work the guys with the cash…and common interests. Quiet, unassuming guy in person…but has a lot of spark and fire behind the eyes.

coldwarrior on August 16, 2013 at 6:32 PM

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM

canopfer, sorry for the misunderstanding. I was using that piece of your comment to chastise Ed for saying:

Just as in other conflicts in the region, it’s almost impossible to choose a sympathetic side

in his original article.

I’m very sorry that I didn’t post that part of your comments in a blockquote attributed to you, but I was so much seeing red that Ed seems to find it difficult to choose a side here. My outrage to this point was only increased upon reading the article you posted.

NOMOBO on August 16, 2013 at 3:11 PM

NOMOBO:

I too,didn’t mean to jump on you.

Dangerous times in Egypt!

All good,have a good day:)

canopfor on August 16, 2013 at 11:38 PM