Done deal: RNC votes not to co-sponsor Republican debates with CNN and NBC if Hillary movies air

posted at 1:21 pm on August 16, 2013 by Allahpundit

Fun fact: The resolution also applies to the networks’ subsidiaries, CNN Espanol and Telemundo, which sounds pretty horrific to me. And to the DNC, I’ll bet.

Who cares?

“We’re done putting up with this nonsense,” he said. “CNN and NBC will just have to watch on their competitors’ network … The media overplayed their hand this time.”…

Priebus said that reports that actor Alec Baldwin could get an MSNBC show during primetime validates his complaint that NBC News is not truly separate from the NBC Entertainment division…

“We don’t have time for the media’s games, and really it goes beyond the debates,” he said. “They want to make a family discussion look like division.”…

The formal RNC resolution said “these programming decisions are an attempt to show political favoritism and put a thumb on the scales for the next presidential election.” It also noted that Robert Greenblatt, chairman of NBC Entertainment, contributed the maximum amount to Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign committee, contributed $25,000 to Obama’s 2012 Victory Fund and this year gave $10,000 to the Democratic National Committee.

Show of hands among our conservative readership: Who thinks that ABC and CBS, which are still good to go, are appreciably less biased against the right than the now-banned NBC and CNN are? Wasn’t it George Stephanopoulos, an ABC anchor and former Clinton apparatchik, who kicked off the “war on women” garbage last year by asking Romney that out-of-left-field question about contraception? Let’s say, purely to appease the RNC, CNN decides it’ll throw together a documentary about the GOP nominee too once he’s chosen. Will that suddenly make CNN copacetic again? Here’s a compromise: Let CNN run its dumb Hillary hagiography on the condition that Jake Tapper gets to moderate the GOP debate. That’ll get you a fair result more than running into ABC’s and CBS’s arms will.

The RNC’s goal here isn’t to strike a blow against media bias. That’s window-dressing for grassroots conservatives, just as the whispers about letting Rush Limbaugh host a debate were. The point is to cut down the number of debates, which will reduce the opportunities for strong establishment candidates to make embarrassing gaffes and reduce the opportunities for strong tea-party candidates to leap in the polls with winning debate performances. And even on those terms, the “ban” is feeble. As Dave Weigel notes, the text of the resolution doesn’t specify a penalty for candidates who defy the RNC and choose to participate in an NBC/CNN debate. It simply says that the RNC won’t be a co-sponsor. The RNC could impose a penalty later but docking delegates from any candidate who chose to take his chances with NBC or CNN moderators would only end up alienating some of his supporters, which risks Republicans staying home for the general election. It’s an empty threat.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

It’s an empty threat.

Not unless GOP nominees threaten to use it against opponents who sell out.

rob verdi on August 16, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Cue liberal talking point about Republicans being scared to get away from Fox News in 5…4…3…2…

Chris of Rights on August 16, 2013 at 1:25 PM

That scumhag in the picture has blood on her hands/soul.

She’s as dumb as obama at 3:00a.m., when the phone rings.

She’s a crook – see the NYT.

She is a hypocritical feminazi sow on Filner and Weiner, etc.

She’ll bring you a nationalized/single payer obama’care’.

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Self-moderated debates are racist!

Flange on August 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM

I have no idea why the Impending Civil War doesn’t just break out and finalize things. Terrorism, the economy…nobody really cares.

The Left destroyed marriage, celebrates the murder of unborn children and wants to make hard-working Americans the sled dogs of parasites.

I want to know what we’re waiting for.

thejackal on August 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM

When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.

Why?

Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Stop negotiating…. just inform them that they’re welcome to make their movie – you can’t wait to see it – and by the way, we won’t be making our candidates and staffs available to you or providing press credentials to your affiliates.

2nd Ammendment Mother on August 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Eh, whatever indeed. The Constitution burns, the Regime ignores any laws they don’t like, the IRS DHS NSA etc etc are turning the ratchet for totalitarian tyranny over a free people.

Wow. Cnn and Nbc can’t come to the GOPe dog and pony show. whoopeedoo

Harbingeing on August 16, 2013 at 1:31 PM

It’s an empty threat.

From the RNC?

Come on, now.
///

Bitter Clinger on August 16, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Why stop there..?

d1carter on August 16, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Maybe CNN and NBC can do a movie on how Monica Lewinsky’s blow jobs have done nothing but help her in the job market.

patman77 on August 16, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Instead of punishing those candidates who ignore a ban, reward those who follow it. That is, every candidate who misses a “debate” on NBC gets to name 25 voting members from a pool of convention slots controlled by the RNC (as long as he/she breaks the 5 percent level on any major poll).

Fred 2 on August 16, 2013 at 1:34 PM

have no idea why the Impending Civil War doesn’t just break out and finalize things. Terrorism, the economy…nobody really cares.

The Left destroyed marriage, celebrates the murder of unborn children and wants to make hard-working Americans the sled dogs of parasites.

I want to know what we’re waiting for.

thejackal on August 16, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Where does the military stand? Sure, every rump ranger liberal in the blue states is an easy target for anyone that actually can put food on the table and defend themselves.

However, heat seeking missiles, M1 tanks, night vision warfare equipment, automatic weapons, gunships, aircraft, naval vessels, nerve gas all tend to offset any advantage. obviously this regime has show no respect for the constituion and the people that feed him and pay them.

acyl72 on August 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Show of hands among our conservative readership: Who thinks that ABC and CBS, which are still good to go, are appreciably less biased against the right than the now-banned NBC and CNN are?

Show of hands among bloggers: Who thinks the only valid action must solve every single problem at once?

Ronnie on August 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM

meh…put all the primary debates of Fox for all it matters. Those debates are for Republican primary voters, after all.

This still leaves the Candy Crowley problem of the media’s collusion with the Democrats during the general election debates.

blue13326 on August 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Good. And make sure only conservatives proctor the debates. And… downplay the debates to some extent because their lionization last time led to an underemphasis on candidates with general election skills like fund raising, campaign management, advertising, and the ability to orchestrate good PR. Last time it was all about the (usually) leftist moderated debates.

Plus… try to exclude the “book tour” candidates!

These “candidates” take advantage of the debate stage to make $ for themselves. And there’s no reason to just get 8 to 10 stiffs every time and put them on stage. It’s a joke. Use more active screening criteria to get the number of debaters down. And it doesn’t have to be the same candidates every time.

anotherJoe on August 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Meaningless; this ‘ban’ should be in effect for all of them, whether they run the Hillary thing or not; and should’ve been done long ago, based solely on their behavior – not based on something they may or may not do in the future.

Even if they don’t run the movie/show(s), they’re *still* partisan participants, and the RNC is moronic to continue to subject themselves to it.

Midas on August 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Lincoln-Douglas…end of…

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Hillary Clinton: More deserving of occupying a stockade in Leavenworth than she is of holding political office

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Most dire

That’s caudillo talk. That’s banana republic stuff. In this country, the president is required to win the consent of Congress first.

Last night’s NSA revelations are a big part of it.

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2013 at 1:39 PM

However, heat seeking missiles, M1 tanks, night vision warfare equipment, automatic weapons, gunships, aircraft, naval vessels, nerve gas all tend to offset any advantage. obviously this regime has show no respect for the constituion and the people that feed him and pay them.

acyl72 on August 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM

There are still folks in Afghanistan and Iraq that might smile with mild amusement at your comment, which – if applied to that context – might make one think those conflicts were over in a few days.

That said, I wryly submit that our folks in DC might actually approve less restrictive rules of engagement if they turned the military loose on American citizens/conservatives. They like us less than they do islamists/terrorists.

Midas on August 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM

meh…put all the primary debates of Fox for all it matters. Those debates are for Republican primary voters, after all.

blue13326 on August 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Not as long as open primaries exist.

Bitter Clinger on August 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM

have ‘em on the innerwebs…I cancelled DISH and stream or watch OTA now, screw the networks since they only serve the left half of the nation now

DanMan on August 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM

I really hope they mean it, although I share doubts
about what the outcome will be.

Like all bullies the media would fold if the RNC pulled
candidates. They’re counting on Rs folding. Like they
always do.

Jocelyn on August 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM

I don’t care what network hosts it, but every stinkin’ moderator is a liberal hack through and through.

Need to get the likes of Hugh Hewitt, Rush Limbaugh, Victor Davis Hanson, Laura Ingraham, Jon Stossel to moderate some…

kirkill on August 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Once again, we have stupid actions by the stupid party. The DNC, CNN, and NBC are going to have a field day with this and make sure the public knows Republicans are afraid of them. Needless to say, you never want to give the opposition this much time to have fun with you.

Now, had they done this after the Candy Crowley affair, then they would have accomplished something.

bflat879 on August 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Kudos for once to the RNC

Suck on this, Candy Crowley.

petefrt on August 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Bitter Clinger on August 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Even if the primaries are open, those who vote in the Republican primaries are by definition Republican primary voters.

blue13326 on August 16, 2013 at 1:55 PM

It doesn’t matter so much who broadcasts the debates as who moderates them and selects the questions. If NBC or CNN’s only role in the debate was to bring in the cameras and upload the broadcast to a satellite, it wouldn’t matter how biased they were. The RNC should plan to produce the debates itself and see what networks are interested in airing them.

J.S.K. on August 16, 2013 at 1:56 PM

For the small price of a Twinkie Chocolate Fountain, Christie will waddle over to both networks.

crash72 on August 16, 2013 at 1:57 PM

I cancelled DISH and stream or watch OTA now, screw the networks since they only serve the left half of the nation now

DanMan on August 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Good for you. I haven’t had NBC, ABC, or CBS on my TV since about 2000. DirecTV has a package that doesn’t include ABC, CBS, and NBC, but does include Fox News and Fox Business. That’s why I use DirecTV.

petefrt on August 16, 2013 at 1:58 PM

First NBC and CNN. Then wait for the other networks to say something biased, then exclude them, too. With talk radio and the internet, the right doesn’t need them. Let’s secure our base, then go to the general election.

InterestedObserver on August 16, 2013 at 1:59 PM

You can make a pretty solid case for just avoiding all televised formal debates, they’re only purpose (and provable end result)is to kick the living Shiite out of anything not democrat.

Why bother? Even if we win a debate in the moment, the resulting remix of sound bites 24-7 by 98% of all media completely undoes anything we may have legitimately pointed out.

It’s a lose lose for us, we can’t beat the media folks…

Tim Zank on August 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Although I agree with you that this doesn’t really matter, NBC is appreciably, obviously far more biased than CNN, CBS and ABC, and it has been for years. Not just MSNBC either, but NBC and even certain aspects of CNBC (although I’m addicted to “The Profit,” which airs on CNBC at night).

It amazes me that you guys watch so much cable news. I was working from a hotel room yesterday and had Fox News on all day – at various points I thought my head was going to explode, and not because of any sort of bias – the news just sucks to watch these days. Even this morning, Fox had an interview with some DB from the Daily Caller, and he’s openly ripping on Ted Cruz and talking about how bad an idea defunding OCare – ugh.

King B on August 16, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Done deal: RNC votes not to co-sponsor Republican debates with CNN and NBC if Hillary movies air

So, let’s start a pool……….when will the gop nominee fold?

After securing the nod, but BEFORE the gop convention?

AFTER the convention?

Before or after the first debate?

Discuss.

PappyD61 on August 16, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Are there actually people out there who believe that a guy like Reince Priebus who thinks Romney’s ‘self-deportation’ remark was ‘horrific‘ is actually standing up to the media?

It’s a puppet show for those stupid enough to believe it.

sharrukin on August 16, 2013 at 2:09 PM

It’s interesting that Hillary hasn’t been an active participant in these discussions. Maybe she approved the script and was assured certain events unbecoming to her or her husband won’t be included. That would make it a pretty short documentary! :)

scalleywag on August 16, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Tell them all to pound sand….

cmsinaz on August 16, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Lib posters think we are chicken to face the lsm yet they applaud ghd dems for boycotting fox

Can you say hypocrisy

cmsinaz on August 16, 2013 at 2:12 PM

All kabuki, RNC PR BS.

How about never giving any democrat or progressive any opportunity to moderate the GOP, hmm?

AH_C on August 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM

If this was important enough to do now, it was important enough to do ten years ago. No one watches those networks anyway.

The whole party needs to be razed and the earth beneath their grubby feet salted. They care about nothing of substance and only collude with the DNC in a vain attempt to make it look like we do not have one-party rule.

StubbleSpark on August 16, 2013 at 2:21 PM

I’m close to not caring a whit about the RNC but, why not hold the primary debates independent of any media complex? Choose your moderator, invite all the stations to cover but not participate in the debate. In the general, each side chooses their moderators and they alternate. The media is invited to cover but not necessarily be part of the chosen moderators. (Both parties must agree to an even number of debates, unless a valid third party arises, then the number of debates must be divisible by three.)

Fallon on August 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Whatever, indeed.

Obviously the Hillary stuff is a mere pretext, and the more interesting question is why did they exempt George Snuffleupaguss’ network when he was the one who conspired with Plouffe and Axelrod to plant the “why do Republicans hate women?” question into the primary debate he co-moderated. Lets not forget that at the time George was sitting in on a weekly strategy call with those guys and other White House folks and it was from that call the question probably was generated.

Drop the networks entirely. Have a Duck Dynasty moderating panel and you’ll draw four times the audience, ask Mark Levin to moderate and you’ll get truly great questions. Bring in Rush, and you’ll get a “how to” seminar they Republicans could surely benefit from.

MTF on August 16, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Lib posters think we are chicken to face the lsm yet they applaud ghd dems for boycotting fox

Can you say hypocrisy

cmsinaz on August 16, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Libs seem to be hypocrites by DNA. If they weren’t hypocrites, I think their cells would just separate – it’s what holds them together.

Midas on August 16, 2013 at 2:29 PM

On topic, on all topics.

Pls. listen beyond the long pause.

You won’t be sorry.

Very sad and true.

Schadenfreude on August 16, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Let CNN run its dumb Hillary hagiography on the condition that Jake Tapper gets to moderate the GOP debate. That’ll get you a fair result more than running into ABC’s and CBS’s arms will.

And then Jeff Zucker hands him the questions to ask. At that point, you might as well have Candy Crowley.

crrr6 on August 16, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Smart candidates would agree to any debate which features a panel of leftist hacks asking gotcha questions. Let there be real debates, just candidates and a timekeeper.

The current format is tailor made for poseurs like Obama, all he did was filibuster for 90 seconds and he was clear. Plus, the panels are more interested in making a name for themselves than in asking serious questions on actual issues.

Adjoran on August 16, 2013 at 2:40 PM

How’s about we take some of that 400 million Rove blew last time, and maybe make our own Hillary movie, and while we’re at it a Benghazi movie, and a Fast and Furious movie. Its the best way to counter their propaganda.

Next, let the networks host, but have our guys moderate. No Crowley’s, no Stepincrapalots. Bair, Ingraham, Levin, Hume.

Iblis on August 16, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Heh Midas
:)

cmsinaz on August 16, 2013 at 2:42 PM

That pic of Hillary….she looks like Huma stood her up
for the evening..OUCH!

ToddPA on August 16, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Show of hands among our conservative readership: Who thinks that ABC and CBS, which are still good to go, are appreciably less biased against the right than the now-banned NBC and CNN are?

Uh, well, the liberal bias of the LSM is well known, BUT, there is a HUGE difference between simply being in the tank, and producing propaganda docudramas/infomercials for preferred candidate.

Pork-Chop on August 16, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Cut out ABC and CBS now, too, and you’ll be finally showing some backbone. Those Clinton movies are not the only or even the strongest reason to cut them ALL out, except Fox.

blackgriffin on August 16, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Whatever, my ass. Good move. Media bias is real and needs to be placed front and center as an issue.

Jaibones on August 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Done deal: RNC votes not to co-sponsor Republican debates with CNN and NBC if Hillary movies air

So, let’s start a pool……….when will the gop nominee fold?

After securing the nod, but BEFORE the gop convention?

AFTER the convention?

PappyD61 on August 16, 2013 at 2:01 PM

This is all about the Republican primary debates, not the general election debates. All the Republican primary debates will take place well before the convention anyway.

J.S.K. on August 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Whatever, my ass. Good move. Media bias is real and needs to be placed front and center as an issue.

Jaibones on August 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Because CBS and ABC are so fair and unbiased. /sarc

If Reince Priebus had wanted to call out the media he could have done that…CBS and ABC included.

Instead this is aimed at other Republicans who he wants to bring under GOP control.

sharrukin on August 16, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Wow…she really looks old and stuff.

trs on August 16, 2013 at 3:08 PM

I wonder why we still call them ‘media’ or ‘journalists.’ Rush calls them the ‘Driveby Media’ I prefer the term ‘Propagandists’ or ‘Democrat Propaganda Media.’

lwssdd on August 16, 2013 at 3:13 PM

It’s a lose lose for us, we can’t beat the media folks…

Tim Zank on August 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM

.
How do you define “beating the media”?

If “beating” them means they start telling the real truth, then no … we can’t.

But the way I define it, we already are beating them, with the internet.

listens2glenn on August 16, 2013 at 3:28 PM

The Clintons have led their entire live by doing nothing, owning nothing and SKIRTING THE LAW AT EVERY OPERTUNITY. Can their be any among us so naive as to be live that this would be anything but hours of infomercials placed just in time to avoid equal time requirements. Lets no one be so naive as to think that she will not be paid $$Millions “for her story”, solely to avoid the campaign contribution laws.

How have we degenerated to such a low state and give up our last vestiges of freedom to except these action from potential leaders of our once great nation.

We can do better then this old worn out running shoe. We can do better. We must do better. We will do better or we will not survive.

jpcpt03 on August 16, 2013 at 10:14 PM

The RNC’s goal here isn’t to strike a blow against media bias. That’s window-dressing for grassroots conservatives, just as the whispers about letting Rush Limbaugh host a debate were. The point is to cut down the number of debates, which will reduce the opportunities for strong establishment candidates to make embarrassing gaffes and reduce the opportunities for strong tea-party candidates to leap in the polls with winning debate performances.

Priebus’ stunt serves several goals, but this is the primary goal. Defend their control of the party from the conservative base. This goal is more important to them than winning any election.

novaculus on August 17, 2013 at 2:24 PM

I find it interesting that nobody brings up the Citzens United supreme court ruling that Obama and his minions thought was so bad. It had to do with showing a documentary critical of Hillary. I wonder if the court had ruled the other way, these proposed Hillary movies could not be broadcast.

Jasper61 on August 17, 2013 at 4:20 PM