Father confronts Christie on medical marijuana: “Please don’t let my daughter die”

posted at 4:41 pm on August 15, 2013 by Allahpundit

A bill’s been sitting on his desk for more than a month that would make it easier for kids in Jersey to have medical marijuana prescribed to them. The fact that he hasn’t signed it yet, even though MM’s already legal in the state and the new bill was passed by a Democratic legislature, is all the proof you need that he’s thinking about running for the Republican nomination in 2016. Even Rand Paul knows better to go full-bore libertarian on this subject while facing a GOP electorate: He wants the feds to back off on drug laws, but he’s described marijuana use as “not healthy” and back in 2010 he apparently told the AP that he doesn’t support legalizing marijuana even for medicinal purposes. Given that the party, especially the younger voters he covets, has moved a bit towards libertarianism since then, Paul might be a little bolder on some form of legalization in the primaries. The dilemma for Christie is, should he be bolder too to make a play for centrists of both parties? Or is he better off being Mr. Establishment and spiking any type of legalization? It’s enough of a boutique issue that it probably doesn’t matter much either way, but if Christie’s looking to build a brand as a “new kind of Republican” (as is Paul, ironically), maybe he signs the bill.

Christie told the girl’s father that he’ll decide by Friday. By the way, if the term “Dravet Syndrome” sounds familiar to you, that’s because it’s the same illness that the little girl had who was spotlighted in Sanjay Gutpa’s much-praised recent documentary on marijuana. A specific type of cannabis is the only treatment that appears to provide any relief from hundreds of seizures a day.


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You know what bothers me the most about this story? The sniveling prostration before a government official pleading for permission to let the state be a parent to his child.

NotCoach on August 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Father confronts Christie on medical marijuana: “Please don’t let my daughter die”

This is moronic. Pot doesn’t save anyone and “medical weed” is a friggin joke that potheads use just to get it legalized. Pathetic.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM

So he could take his daughter to Colorado which would save her life, or leave it up to a Politician.

If it were my kid, I’d have been in Colorado 6 months ago.

This parent’s priorities are all screwed up.

“Oh please Government official, please don’t allow my child to die”

Get off your knees, and get your child to a state like Colorado that allows this.

Precious time.

portlandon on August 15, 2013 at 4:48 PM

You’re the one letting her die if you are not taking her to where the miracle drug is legal to be prescribed father. I do not believe you think your daughter’s life is at risk or at least that the marijuana will help. If you did you would be in California, Washington or Colorado.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 4:49 PM

A specific type of cannabis is the only treatment that appears to provide any relief from hundreds of seizures a day.

Question. Is a majority of the conservative base actually opposed to the legalization of medical marijuana? Shoot, what about legalizing pot, period? Even Palin a few years ago strongly hinted at wanting the authorities to devote their attention to other crimes rather than wasting precious manpower on chasing after stoners.

Doughboy on August 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM

back in 2010 he apparently told the AP that he doesn’t support legalizing marijuana even for medicinal purposes.

When you talk about “legalizing marijuana,” are you talking about the government affirming that it is a valid life choice, and giving people subsidies and other government benefits for doing it? Like when you talk about “legalizing” gay marriage? Or, do you mean just letting people do it, and keeping government out of it altogether? You know, like the government used to do with gay marriage in the wake of Lawrence?

besser tot als rot on August 15, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Father confronts Christie on medical marijuana: “Please don’t let my daughter die”

This is moronic. Pot doesn’t save anyone and “medical weed” is a friggin joke that potheads use just to get it legalized. Pathetic.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM

I know medical marijuana patients who swear it works. I’m a little dubious, but it’s better to be high on pot then prescription opiates that doctors hand out like candy.

I don’t see why it’s a government issue though — short of a constitutional amendment, the government has no right to prohibit people from ingesting a substance.

Timin203 on August 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

A specific type of cannabis is the only treatment that appears to provide any relief from hundreds of seizures a day.

Question. Is a majority of the conservative base actually opposed to the legalization of medical marijuana? Shoot, what about legalizing pot, period? Even Palin a few years ago strongly hinted at wanting the authorities to devote their attention to other crimes rather than wasting precious manpower on chasing after stoners.

Doughboy on August 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM

The neo prohibitionists in both parties are. Same groups who banned alcohol in the 30s.

It’s not a hill to die on for me, but I think it’s disgusting that we allow the government to throw people in jail for victimless crimes.

Timin203 on August 15, 2013 at 4:54 PM

If snorting Comet helps have at it.

I do think that some made a great point too- Go to Colorado dad.

CW on August 15, 2013 at 4:55 PM

I don’t see why it’s a government issue though — short of a constitutional amendment, the government has no right to prohibit people from ingesting a substance.

Timin203 on August 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

It also does not have the right to give money to poor people, old people, disabled people and so forth.
So long as it does, the dopes can suffer.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Timin203 on August 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

I have nothing against states legalizing weed but the idea that it is medically valuable is asinine. Your friends are lying (possibly to themselves in addition to you). Pot is fun. Sure. But it’s no cure for anything. It’s for recreation.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Nobody has figured out how to synthesize CBD? Sounds dubious.

echosyst on August 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM

And why doesn’t he just take her to a state where it’s legal?

Captain Kirock on August 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I know medical marijuana patients who swear it works. I’m a little dubious, but it’s better to be high on pot then prescription opiates that doctors hand out like candy.

I don’t see why it’s a government issue though — short of a constitutional amendment, the government has no right to prohibit people from ingesting a substance.

Timin203 on August 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

It’s likely easier to get illegal marijuana than a prescription for opiates from a doctor. Doctors are absolutely terrified of the DEA.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I think it’s disgusting that we allow the government to throw people in jail for victimless crimes.

Timin203 on August 15, 2013 at 4:54 PM

It is far more disgusting to take money from virtuous people by force to be handed over to degenerates to enjoy work free lives. But here we are. Which one do you think should go first? The subsidies that increase usage or the legalizing of usage while it is subsidized?

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

So long as it does, the dopes can suffer.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 4:55 PM

You’re one whiney bιtch with some whack logic.

CW on August 15, 2013 at 4:58 PM

It’s likely easier to get illegal marijuana than a prescription for opiates from a doctor. Doctors are absolutely terrified of the DEA.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I know. I cannot get my V!codin very easily. It is the only thing short of more powerful versions that even dents the pain of my migraines.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 4:58 PM

It’s not a hill to die on for me, but I think it’s disgusting that we allow the government to throw people in jail for victimless crimes.

Timin203 on August 15, 2013 at 4:54 PM

It’s a serious waste of time for the police IMO. I don’t discount the gateway drug argument, but booze is legal and it can cause far more damage and not just to the person doing the drinking. I don’t support the legalization of all drugs. But pot seems benign compared to other stuff we currently allow people to put in their bodies.

Doughboy on August 15, 2013 at 4:59 PM

You’re one whiney bιtch with some whack logic.

CW on August 15, 2013 at 4:58 PM

The whiney little potheads and tokers take first place there.

waaaaaa, I want pot, waaaaaa. I am not hurting anyone, by the way, where the f^ck is my damned welfare check and food stamps? Waaaaa, I want pot, waaaaa. I am not hurting any one, by the way mom, since you have video evidence of me taking the money out of your purse, let me explain what I needed it for… Waaaaaa Pot, Waaaaaa, Pot, Waaaaaa Pot.

There’s some whining for ya.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:01 PM

This is moronic. Pot doesn’t save anyone and “medical weed” is a friggin joke that potheads use just to get it legalized. Pathetic.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Do science to it, Vern.
/

Capitalist Hog on August 15, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Er, to those suggesting the girl’s father just pick up and go to another state, who says the father could even afford to travel to a state like Colorado? Why should the father have to bring his seizure-suffering child through the hassles of an airport and long-distance travelling just because the government can’t stop regulating every single form of behavior?

In my view, this is an issue which is going to repeatedly hurt the GOP because they don’t seem to have a consistent message. It’s sort of a shame because they could easily get on top of it and expose the Democrats for the frauds they are.

I don’t particularly care for Chris Christie, nor will I be voting for him in 2016 should he become the party’s nominee (not even if Hillary’s the other nominee), but he should sign the damn bill and stop grandstanding.

Aizen on August 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Does the amnesty and climate change pushing gov think that he’s going to appeal to the right by getting tough… on medical marijuana? Deny it to the sick and dying that need it? Does Christie fashion himself like an old guard Nixonian Republican? That’s false, and I don’t think that will help him.

In 2010 alone, 900,000 Americans were arrested for possession of pot. 50% more than the 600,000 arrested for all violent crimes, combined. We do need to reduce our shameful incarceration rate. We could start by decriminalizing personal drug use.

The problem is that a large percentage of our population is brainwashed into thinking that marijuana is a “gateway drug” to heroin. If that were true then half of all college graduates would be heroin addicts. As far as medical marijuana, please, pick your battles, and that shouldn’t be one of them.

anotherJoe on August 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM

This is bogus – 10 to 1 this guy is a registered Dem. This THC compound should be available in even a Class II narcotic – below, even, the mildest addictive opiate.
.
This is should be a prescription controlled phramaceutical with a legitimate disease usage – especially for a 3 yr. old.
I don’t think that is what the fight for “medical marijuana” is all about.
.
Take a trip to Venice Beach- you’ll see what a joke “medical marijuana” dispensaries are all about.
Legalize it for the purposes of legalizing it.
.
Don’t use kids as props.

FlaMurph on August 15, 2013 at 5:03 PM

NotCoach

That was my reaction also. Having to beg the all knowing all powerful government for your child’s life. This is what we have been reduced to.

traye on August 15, 2013 at 5:04 PM

The potheads are also at the forefront of banning tobacco. They hate cigarette smokers … an artifact from the hippies and how they viewed cigarette smokers as their parents – the ENEMY!! Funny, that.

It’s hysterical to talk with a pot legalization idiot about cigarettes, to hear them cry about how it should be banned, and then, in the same breath they’ll tell you that smoking weed isn’t harmful, at all. LOL. Smoking weed is far more harmful than smoking tobacco, as anyone who’s smoked both knows quite clearly.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 5:04 PM

There’s some whining for ya.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Says stoner.

You could probably swallow coal and crap diamonds you’re so uptight. I laugh as people like you become the fodder bad movies and myth. You’re a modern dodo bird. And probably a drunk to boot.

Capitalist Hog on August 15, 2013 at 5:05 PM

This is moronic. Pot doesn’t save anyone and “medical weed” is a friggin joke that potheads use just to get it legalized. Pathetic.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Boy, I’d love to see those medical credentials of yours. Because there are actually people with actual medical credentials and actual research, who would disagree…

JohnGalt23 on August 15, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Kill your child in the womb?

Give her a little toke?

Stupid, stupid people.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Aizen on August 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Well then, lets have the government regulate hospitals so that every one of them must be the single best at every single activity they do. Mayo clinic for everyone. Why should some people not have the same quality service as others get at mayo clinic? Equality for all. ALL states must be exactly the same, preferable, apparently, regressing liberally.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Troll adds so little . Zzzzzzzzzzzz.

CW on August 15, 2013 at 5:06 PM

You could probably swallow coal and crap diamonds you’re so uptight. I laugh as people like you become the fodder bad movies and myth. You’re a modern dodo bird. And probably a drunk to boot.

Capitalist Hog on August 15, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Don’t I wish. Don’t I wish.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:07 PM

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Comment of the Day™

Steve Eggleston on August 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Just to clarify, I support medical marijuana.

I lean toward legalizing rec use, too.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM

This is moronic. Pot doesn’t save anyone and “medical weed” is a friggin joke that potheads use just to get it legalized. Pathetic.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Dr Sanjay Gupta says you’re full of crap.

SirGawain on August 15, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Comment of the Day™

Steve Eggleston on August 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Freedom lovers? The both of ya?

CW on August 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM

If we were just now discovering the many, many wonderful benefits of willow tree bark, the Luddites would be screaming.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Question. Is a majority of the conservative base actually opposed to the legalization of medical marijuana? Shoot, what about legalizing pot, period? Even Palin a few years ago strongly hinted at wanting the authorities to devote their attention to other crimes rather than wasting precious manpower on chasing after stoners.

Doughboy on August 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Of conservatives who spend their time on political blogs, I think a majority probably favor legalization in some way, shape, or form. It sure seems that way here, NRO, and the other places I find myself on the Right side of the web.

The problem is most of the “conservative base”, much like most of the “liberal base” and most of America in general, get what little political info they get from television, which for reasons I can only chalk up to inertia, favors the voices of the prohibitionists…

JohnGalt23 on August 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM

This is moronic. Pot doesn’t save anyone and “medical weed” is a friggin joke that potheads use just to get it legalized. Pathetic.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Well, you got that right…your comment certainly is moronic. Did you read the article? The strain of cannabis has very low levels of THC. And it works.

JetBoy on August 15, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Medical marijuana is one thing, the problem is that many are conflating it with medicinal marijuana.

Tater Salad on August 15, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Freedom lovers? The both of ya?

CW on August 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM

What freedom when a low life degenerate scum bag has claim to other peoples’ labor because he is too drained of ambition to earn his own life?

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:11 PM

If we were just now discovering the many, many wonderful benefits of willow tree bark, the Luddites would be screaming.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Quite the opposite. Aspirin would never make it past the FDA, these days.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Some of you might as well team up with Team Bloomberg.

CW on August 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM

It’s likely easier to get illegal marijuana than a prescription for opiates from a doctor. Doctors are absolutely terrified of the DEA.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Funny how that works.

Funny…

JohnGalt23 on August 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Let’s ban soda pop . God knows for many it leads to diseases that will render them unemployable and on the public dole.

As we know all pot smokers are on the public dole and incapable of meaningful work./

Seriously – some of you are batshit crazy.

CW on August 15, 2013 at 5:15 PM

What freedom when a low life degenerate scum bag has claim to other peoples’ labor because he is too drained of ambition to earn his own life?

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:11 PM

So, the welfare statists get the upper hand, and you are willing to sell every protection we have from tyranny down the river, for… what? To spite your face?

Right up there with “Tobacco is illegal”…

JohnGalt23 on August 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Well, you got that right…your comment certainly is moronic. Did you read the article? The strain of cannabis has very low levels of THC. And it works.

JetBoy on August 15, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Extract it and give it in pill form. Pure and 0 THC. No dope required. Make it perfectly distinct to itself. Until the welfare state is gone, I want no slippery slope possible.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM

So, the welfare statists get the upper hand, and you are willing to sell every protection we have from tyranny down the river, for… what? To spite your face?

Right up there with “Tobacco is illegal”…

JohnGalt23 on August 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Nope, I already made my position perfectly clear to you months ago. What is currently illegal remains so, what is legal remains so. But my burdens to degenerates are well past acceptable levels.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:17 PM

This is bogus – 10 to 1 this guy is a registered Dem. This THC compound should be available in even a Class II narcotic – below, even, the mildest addictive opiate.

FlaMurph on August 15, 2013 at 5:03 PM

IIRC, it is other compounds other than the THC that are medicinally efficacious. Separating THC is relatively easy. But extracting the other compounds is not.

Someone can maybe confirm this.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:20 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Pot is harmful, yes, at least for some.

But so what?

Is it the govt’s role to sanction things as safe, and then build a police state and imprison millions to enforce the govt’s idea of what is safe or right?

If they tried to ban tobacco they would need a police state to control it, and just like drugs, you wouldn’t actually control it. And it is important that you realize that the libertarians or pragmatic Republicans here that call for legalization are just as incensed with the liberals that want to ban tobacco as you are.

Legalization will kill the drug smuggling business, the innumerable arrests and filling of jails. The savings will be significant. And, the people who insist on using drugs will use them, war or no war on drugs. It is impossible to stop humans from the desire to alter their state of conscienceness. Call it escape, enlightenment, abuse, whatever you choose, it will never end… Drug abuse will never be stopped. Money would be far better spent on treatment, education and to those who would abuse to the end, they will die.

anotherJoe on August 15, 2013 at 5:21 PM

You’re one whiney bιtch with some whack logic.

CW on August 15, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Constipation is a b!tch.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Where’s all the “Christie is Fat” insults on this thread? Some of you are really, really clever on the other threads!

I guess when he’s on the same side as you are on an issue, it’s really not relevant…I guess.

Have fun sitting out the 2016 Presidential Election!

asc85 on August 15, 2013 at 5:24 PM

A bill’s been sitting on his desk for more than a month that would make it easier for kids in Jersey to have medical marijuana prescribed to them. The fact that he hasn’t signed it yet, even though MM’s already legal in the state and the new bill was passed by a Democratic legislature, is all the proof you need that he’s thinking about running for the Republican nomination in 2016.

Nah. Christie’s just scared that little kids might get the munchies and eat all of the donuts before he gets to them.

steebo77 on August 15, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Wait, all he has to do to save his daughter’s life is drive to another state? Not that it make difference here. Users say marijuana is the answer to every other ailment too.

Dongemaharu on August 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM

f we were just now discovering the many, many wonderful benefits of willow tree bark, the Luddites would be screaming.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Quite the opposite. Aspirin would never make it past the FDA, these days.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Um. I think that’s what I meant.

I mean, that’s what I meant to mean.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:27 PM

A specific type of cannabis is the only treatment that appears to provide any relief from hundreds of seizures a day.

Not exactly, or to be more-precise, not consistently. There is no “cure-all” for Dravet Syndrome.

I’m reasonably sure the high-cannabidiol (CBD)/low-THC variety (which is actually extracted from the cigarette in the CNN case) can be further developed into a high CBD/no-THC extract. Of course, one wouldn’t be able to get high on it so the tokers who are pushing legal “medical” marijuana will be, once they hear about it, opposed.

Steve Eggleston on August 15, 2013 at 5:27 PM

My favorite part is at the very beginning the 15 second mark. Christie has his pie hole hanging wide open. Christie, close your pie hole you’ll let the flies out.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Boy, I’d love to see those medical credentials of yours. Because there are actually people with actual medical credentials and actual researchpaid research , who would disagree…

JohnGalt23 on August 15, 2013 at 5:06 PM

.
Naive fify
(but if someone wants to sedate themselves- go for it- I’m sure it improves voting skills as well)

FlaMurph on August 15, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Vices are their own punishment

America undertook the War on pot cause …..

“Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”

- Harry J. Anslinger (Federal Bureau of Narcotics)

Guess da Fat Man ain’t evolved so much…. huh

roflmmfao

donabernathy on August 15, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Pot is harmful, yes, at least for some.

But so what?

anotherJoe on August 15, 2013 at 5:21 PM

I wasn’t talking about the psychological effects but the act of smoking pot, which is far more harmful than smoking tobacco.

I don’t care about that (I’m a cigarette smoker and I have smoked more pot in my life than most). I do care about the idiots who are trying to ban my cigarettes while encouraging people to light up joints everywhere claiming that breathing in burning weed does nothing but inhaling burning tobacco is death, itself. The idiocy of that position is beyond insane.

I have already stated that I have no problem with states deciding to legalize recreational weed, if they want, but your ideas about the great benefits of legalizing drugs is a bit unrealistic. Treatment is a joke and you are kidding yourself if you think that all the ills we currently experience will disappear. States seem to be interested in legalizing pot to get taxes – they’re licking their lips at the prospect of all those trillions flowing in – but they are in for a shock when people figure out that anyone can grow enough weed to supply themselves for a lifetime very easily and cheaply. Those taxes the states salivate over are not going to appear and I think you’ll find that they lose their interest in pot legalization as that becomes evident.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I wasn’t talking about the psychological effects but the act of smoking pot, which is far more harmful than smoking tobacco.

Source?

JetBoy on August 15, 2013 at 5:36 PM

You know what bothers me the most about this story? The sniveling prostration before a government official pleading for permission to let the state be a parent to his child.

NotCoach on August 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Well people have tried science. They’ve tried reason. They’ve tried organizing and marching. They’ve tried phone calls and letters. They’ve tried town halls. They have tried every possible avenue to bring across the facts about the ridiculousness of prohibition. So what is left? Appealing to sympathy for the family. Something that has worked in American politics for over a hundred years (and something social conservatives are quite familiar with). This man probably can grow marijuana. However, he would like to not be arrested and charged with a crime as that will not help his child. What, exactly, is this man supposed to do?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:37 PM

It’s a serious waste of time for the police IMO. I don’t discount the gateway drug argument, but booze is legal and it can cause far more damage and not just to the person doing the drinking. I don’t support the legalization of all drugs. But pot seems benign compared to other stuff we currently allow people to put in their bodies.

Doughboy on August 15, 2013 at 4:59 PM

There’s a lot of different things at stake here, but one of them is that the ‘war on drugs’ is an industry.
So the more you dial back this war, the less you need the aparatus you’ve built to fight it.
Can’t see a ‘conservative’ case to be made here against legalization for most recreational drugs.

verbaluce on August 15, 2013 at 5:38 PM

I think it’s disgusting that we allow the government to throw people in jail for victimless crimes.
Timin203 on August 15, 2013 at 4:54 PM

I suspect the medical examiners called to the aftermath of drug-related shootouts might beg to differ on the “victimless” part.

whatcat on August 15, 2013 at 5:38 PM

I don’t care about that (I’m a cigarette smoker and I have smoked more pot in my life than most). I do care about the idiots who are trying to ban my cigarettes while encouraging people to light up joints everywhere claiming that breathing in burning weed does nothing but inhaling burning tobacco is death, itself. The idiocy of that position is beyond insane.

Equally idiotic? Refusing to acknowledge that people can vaporize or simply ingest marijuana rather than setting it on fire and breathing in the smoke.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:38 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Particularly with the new LED lights out and coming out. No more helicopter heat scans or confiscation of utility bills to see who is growing.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM

suspect the medical examiners called to the aftermath of drug-related shootouts might beg to differ on the “victimless” part.

whatcat on August 15, 2013 at 5:38 PM

What produces drug violence? How is it worse than violence conducted to gain access to natural resources?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Treatment is a joke and you are kidding yourself if you think that all the ills we currently experience will disappear.

So if it cuts the ills we experience from prohibition by 80% (including any unintended consequences) its not worth doing because it won’t fix all the ills caused by prohibition?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:41 PM

What, exactly, is this man supposed to do?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:37 PM

He might try the NIH. If its not to long a trip. They routinely give out the stuff to treat the side effects of cancer. Not actually for the cancer, but for the harsh treatments involved, i.e. chemo.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:41 PM

He might try the NIH. If its not to long a trip. They routinely give out the stuff to treat the side effects of cancer. Not actually for the cancer, but for the harsh treatments involved, i.e. chemo.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:41 PM

OK…..so lets say he lives in Nebraska. What then?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM

What produces drug violence?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM

This depends on which part of the equation you are pointing to.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM

OK…..so lets say he lives in Nebraska. What then?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM

If it is the only cure and he loves his daughter, he moves.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM

OK…..so lets say he lives in Nebraska. What then?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM

He would have a long drive or short flight. You fail to see my point I think. That the government see it as okay to dole it out selectively. This is not squared by its actions.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Extract it and give it in pill form. Pure and 0 THC. No dope required. Make it perfectly distinct to itself. Until the welfare state is gone, I want no slippery slope possible.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM

It’s given in liquid form to kids…not smoked.

JetBoy on August 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM

see=sees

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Well people have tried science. They’ve tried reason. They’ve tried organizing and marching.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:37 PM

You don’t get it, and you never will. Anyone who believes rights originate within the government will always be clueless.

NotCoach on August 15, 2013 at 5:45 PM

I want to see Allahpundit moderate, with a paper bag over his head, and a heavily synthasized voice to remain anonymous.

portlandon on August 15, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Colorado.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM

It’s given in liquid form to kids…not smoked.

JetBoy on August 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM

As long as it does not add to my burden of supporting every degenerate the government can help create with subsidies, as in no THC, I do not care. If on the other hand, it can be gotten by degenerates to get themselves high and lower their motivation… leave it illegal.

Seems this dad would rather torture his kid than actually help her.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM

You don’t get it, and you never will. Anyone who believes rights originate within the government will always be clueless.

NotCoach on August 15, 2013 at 5:45 PM

So he should ignore the law, risk incarceration (which will be far worse for his daughter) on ideological principle? Awesome. You first.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Freedom lovers? The both of ya?

CW on August 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM

What exactly do you mean by “freedom”?

Nutstuyu on August 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM

OOOOOOOOPPPPPSSSS.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM

I am for the legalization of marijuana. One of my very few liberal views. However, I don’t care what Christie thinks or does about it. Personally, I wish somebody would pack him into a big suite case and send him to France.

If only New Jersey voters would vote him out of office. Think of the country conservative people of New
Jersey.

KMav on August 15, 2013 at 5:49 PM

I spent nearly two years at NIH should anyone care to disagree with me. I thought it strange the government could allow for it in its facilities but someone in the supposed privacy of their own home could not. No matter which side of the argument you fall on, this does not square.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:49 PM

I do not care. If on the other hand, it can be gotten by degenerates to get themselves high and lower their motivation… leave it illegal.

The people you call degenerates have access to it. And you’re paying more for their habit because you pay for their incarceration, for their time on probation and parole. You’re paying for their trips to mandatory rehab. You’re paying the police who patrol their neighborhoods, investigate and arrest them. You pay for *all* of it now. So why do you think legalization would *increase* your tax burden?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:49 PM

He might try the NIH. If its not to long a trip. They routinely give out the stuff to treat the side effects of cancer. Not actually for the cancer, but for the harsh treatments involved, i.e. chemo.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:41 PM

It’s not exactly “routine” (if memory serves, it’s a program of about 200…check that, it’s down to 4 “legacy” users) nor is it the shat that gets one high (almost all the THC is stripped). Therefore, even if that were an option, the father can’t go and “appropriate” some of the medicine to fill his craven desires.

Steve Eggleston on August 15, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Seems this dad would rather torture his kid than actually help her.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:47 PM

I know you’re a proud as$hole, but you’re still an as$hole.

verbaluce on August 15, 2013 at 5:50 PM

I spent nearly two years at NIH should anyone care to disagree with me. I thought it strange the government could allow for it in its facilities but someone in the supposed privacy of their own home could not. No matter which side of the argument you fall on, this does not square.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Wait, do you believe in federalism or not? Because drug laws are a state’s issue. Are you saying the federal government should dictate medical marijuana to the states? Odd…….

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:50 PM

What produces drug violence?
libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM

This depends on which part of the equation you are pointing to.
Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Druggies are the at the root. No druggies = no drugs, and thus, no drug violence.

whatcat on August 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM

So he should ignore the law, risk incarceration (which will be far worse for his daughter) on ideological principle? Awesome. You first.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM

My wife suffers with fibromyalgia.

I will risk incarceration, not on “ideological principle” but humanitarian.

If it gives her relief, it’s worth the risk. But only a dim bulb will get caught.

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM

I spent nearly two years at NIH should anyone care to disagree with me. I thought it strange the government could allow for it in its facilities but someone in the supposed privacy of their own home could not. No matter which side of the argument you fall on, this does not square.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:49 PM

I guess what they mean by ‘controlled’ substances.

verbaluce on August 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 15, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Ok, thanks for the clarification, as those are the positions I kind of thought you had. I agree that the anti-tobacco libs are just insane. As far as drugs, I know that legalization won’t be a panacea that solves all drug problems. But it would solve the criminal justice problem.

anotherJoe on August 15, 2013 at 5:52 PM

The people you call degenerates have access to it. And you’re paying more for their habit because you pay for their incarceration, for their time on probation and parole. You’re paying for their trips to mandatory rehab. You’re paying the police who patrol their neighborhoods, investigate and arrest them. You pay for *all* of it now. So why do you think legalization would *increase* your tax burden?

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:49 PM

I am going to go out onto a limb and argue they do not enjoy that incarceration… And while they are incarcerated I do not have to deal with the losers hounding me at the grocery store entrance they just spent their food stamps at begging for money for food, then turning me down when I offer them food instead of cash.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Druggies are the at the root. No druggies = no drugs, and thus, no drug violence.

whatcat on August 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM

But violence over exclusive access to valuable resources exists outside of the drug trade. So why would you assumed drugs are the controlling factor in drug violence? J

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Steve Eggleston on August 15, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Your assertion runs counter to my actual experience. One of us is incorrect. The time I spent there the product was delivered in multiple ways. In the very top floor of the old building there is a baby grand piano. That was the area for smoking. The product came in vacuum sealed plastic. Full length buds. Top drawer quality.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Cannabis contains over 300 compounds and 60 of these are cannabinoids, which are the basis for medical and scientific use of medical marijuana. Current research isolates the effect of specific compounds and those caused by their interactions. Medical marijuana can serve as appetite stimulants, antiemetics, antispasmodics and have some analgesic effects. Three important cannabinoids found in the cannabis plant are Cannabidiol, Caryophyllene, and Cannabigerol.

http://www.emarijuanaclones.com/blog/2011/10/medical-marijuana-medicinal-compounds/

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:54 PM

I am going to go out onto a limb and argue they do not enjoy that incarceration… And while they are incarcerated I do not have to deal with the losers hounding me at the grocery store entrance they just spent their food stamps at begging for money for food, then turning me down when I offer them food instead of cash.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 5:52 PM

*record scratch* Hold up. The issue for you is not the size, scope or cost of government. The issue is that you prefer a system where lazy people are suffering, even if it costs you more as a tax payer? That’s pretty nutty.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:54 PM

I guess what they mean by ‘controlled’ substances.

verbaluce on August 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Exactly. Lolz! Good one verbaluce. ; )

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Wait, his daughter will *die* without it? This isn’t just pain/symptom mitigation – his daughter will literally *DIE* without medical marijuana?

Midas on August 15, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Druggies are the at the root. No druggies = no drugs, and thus, no drug violence.

whatcat on August 15, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Not necessarily but perhaps. That is quite a different topic than what I was trying to point out with libby.

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Cannabidiol
Cannabidiol (CBD) is a major constituent of medical marijuana. CBD represents up to 40% of extracts of the medical cannabis plant. Cannabidiol relieves convulsion, inflammation, anxiety, nausea and inhibits cancer cell growth. Recent studies have shown Cannabidiol to be as effective as atypical antipsychotics in treating schizophrenia. Due to the fact cannabidiol relieves the aforementioned symptoms, medical marijuana with high CBD levels are ideal for people with multiple sclerosis, frequent anxiety attacks and Tourette syndrome.

ibid

davidk on August 15, 2013 at 5:57 PM

So he should ignore the law, risk incarceration (which will be far worse for his daughter) on ideological principle? Awesome. You first.

libfreeordie on August 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM

What comes first, the state or your child?

NotCoach on August 15, 2013 at 5:58 PM

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