Christie takes veiled shots at Rand Paul, Bobby Jindal at RNC luncheon; Update: Team Paul fires back

posted at 8:01 pm on August 15, 2013 by Allahpundit

Say this for the guy: He knows what his audience wants to hear.

I guess this is going to be his approach, whether or not it alienates righty votes he’ll need in the general election. Being “brash” and confrontational got him two terms as governor in a blue state. Why not let it all hang out and see if it can’t get him the White House too? Besides, with the rest of the field busy distancing themselves from Romney, there are a lot of forlorn, wealthy establishmentarians out there in need of a champion. Here he comes now:

“Christie and Paul tangled earlier this summer after the New Jersey governor criticized Paul’s libertarian-tinged worldview as “esoteric” and “intellectual,” drawing a series of pointed rebukes from Paul and his allies…

“I think we have some folks who believe that our job is to be college professors,” he said. “Now college professors are fine I guess. Being a college professor, they basically spout out ideas that nobody does anything about. For our ideas to matter we have to win. Because if we don’t win, we don’t govern. And if we don’t govern all we do is shout to the wind. And so I am going to do anything I need to do to win.”…

Christie also appeared to rap Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, another potential White House hopeful who made headlines in January when he implored the GOP to “stop being the stupid party.”

“I’m not going to be one of these people who goes around and calls our party stupid,” Christie said, a startling remark given that Jindal and Christie work hand-in-hand as chairman and vice-chairman of the Republican Governors Association.

“We need to stop navel gazing. There’s nothing wrong with our principles. We need to focus on winning again. There’s too much at stake for this to be an academic exercise. We need to win and govern with authority and courage.”

The fact that he’s picking an early fight with Jindal, someone with whom he’s had no issues but who’s a potential rival in 2016, is the best evidence yet that he really is running. “It was impressive. I forgot about the Obama bear hug,” the chairman of the Tennessee GOP told CNN afterward. And that’s the idea — if your would-be base is worried/annoyed at you for buddying up to The One, one way to win them back is to throw punches at someone else they don’t like. Ironically, he’s executing a sort of RINO version of the strategy some tea-party pols use to ingratiate themselves with supporters: He’s picking a fight with someone who’s unpopular with his constituents, it’s just that instead of Obama, the targets in this case are … fellow Republicans. No wonder Beltway GOPers love him. Maybe WaPo’s idea of Christie “standing up” to Palin in order to dazzle centrists is likelier than I thought.

I don’t get his criticisms of Paul and Jindal, though. In terms of the latter, as Philip Klein pointed out on Twitter, Christie’s said worse things about Republican leaders than calling them “stupid.” And Jindal wasn’t calling the party stupid because he thinks its principles are stupid; he said specifically that the party should retain its “values” but that it needs to stop showcasing people prone to crankish remarks and reach middle America with growth policies rather than obsessing about the deficit. I’m surprised Christie disagrees with any of that. Although, maybe he doesn’t. The point here was to take a rival down a peg, not seriously engage his ideas.

As for Paul, the so-called “college professor,” I assume that’s a reference to his filibuster over the unlikely prospect of the feds droning a U.S. citizen on American soil. That’s fine, but that’s long since been overtaken by the debate over NSA surveillance. Does Christie consider that topic fanciful or “esoteric,” even after his pal Barack has conceded that reforms are necessary? Or is he, rather, jabbing at Paul for pushing libertarian legislative initiatives like defunding O-Care or cutting foreign aid that invariably fail? That makes more sense insofar as it’s a contrast with Christie’s own brand of working with Democrats to “get things done.” That’ll be one of the under-the-radar issues of the 2016 primaries, amid all the noise about surveillance and immigration: Does the party want to nominate someone who’s campaigning explicitly on bipartisanship or someone willing to filibuster, for 13 hours straight if need be, to extract concessions from the other side? Christie’s carving out his turf early.

Exit quotation from Rand Paul: “I think that the Republican party is big enough for the both of us.” Is it?

Update: Counterpunch.

“So if I translate Gov. Christie correctly, we shouldn’t be the party of ideas,” Paul adviser Doug Stafford told CNN in an email. “We shouldn’t care what we stand for or even if we stand for anything. We reject that idea. Content-free so-called ‘pragmatism’ is the problem, not the solution.”


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2

Mark Levin talking about this and said, yeah elect Christie and Hillary becomes President.

Hillary Clinton is Barack Obama in a dress.

bluefox on August 15, 2013 at 10:32 PM

I really don’t think Christie is going to run for Prez. He’s big, but not big enough to take on Jebbie.

It appears he may be Jebbie’s stalking horse tho.

bluefox on August 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM

“I am in this business to win. I don’t know why you are in it. I am in this to win.”

~Christie

Well…there you have it. The political class. Careerist literally calling governing and legislating for the constituents … a “business”.

WE elect these public servants to tend to the needs of the constituents whom they represent, literally as the proxy of that constituency, in congress… or the White House. This is not a business.. it is a service.

They don’t build this ‘business’. They don’t own this ‘business’. They aren’t entitled to the position…unless the constituency says they are entitled to it… and even then only until the next election.

No wonder so many career politicians these days feel that they can pass the position down to their children… like a ‘business’.

These are elitists. Would be aristocrats.

If they refuse to vote a two term limit for themselves… as they have done for the presidency… WE, the electorate, need to impose one at the ballot box… until those elected to political office remember that they are, in fact and in deed, PUBLIC SERVANTS.

thatsafactjack on August 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM

“It was impressive. I forgot about the Obama bear hug,” the chairman of the Tennessee GOP told CNN afterward.

Peachy. Just peachy. With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats to run against?

conservative pilgrim on August 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM

thatsafactjack on August 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM

; )

Bmore on August 15, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Voters just won’t listen. Christie’s embrace of the President and of the Democrat Congress (let’s not forget his bitter scolding of House Republicans trying to trim some small amount of the massive pork from the Sandy relief bill) is enough to make voters think “John McCain” and “Mitt Romney” all over again.

The GOP is hungry for an ideological candidate espousing populist growth economics. A candidate who is tough enough to not let the media drag him/her into the swamps of abortion, social conservatism, gay marriage and all the other traditional ways of making conservatives seem like bleary eyed escapees from the flatland villages.

Christie will get his fifteen minutes of fame along the way (or maybe he’s already had it) but Republicans aren’t nominating another big government Democrat/Centrist/Republican again. Won’t happen.

MTF on August 15, 2013 at 10:39 PM

“We need to stop navel gazing. There’s nothing wrong with our principles. We need to focus on winning again.

Every time the Republicans move left they lose.

Republicans won big in 2010 with huge Conservative and TEA Party support. The Republicans learned from that victory that a sharp turn left was needed in 2012 and they put up a liberal Governor from the most liberal state in the country and promptly lost big.

Chris Christie said back in February of this year that he agrees with the very liberal Democrat NY Governor Andrew Cuomo on 98% of the issues. If he is the Republican candidate the Republicans will again lose big.

RJL on August 15, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Christie is angling for a “win” in Hillary’s Cabinet.

Odie1941 on August 15, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Naah. The democratics consider Lardass to be another useful idiot. When they are done with him he goes under the bus.

slickwillie2001 on August 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM

lol, maybe you did Mr. sharpie but what are your suggestions to keep us from getting boned again?

arnold ziffel on August 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM

I do not any more. The GOP is hell bent on allowing the Democrats to increase the power of the Federal Government at the expense of We The People and the states. There is nothing we can do to change the outcomes of the primaries, as the big donors, who I support wholly on their use of their money any way they want, can easily tilt elections with nothing more than negative advertising as Romney did against Gingrich.
There is no longer a We The People left in the nation to turn the boat around. A small smattering of conservatives, real libertarians, Constitutionalists just do not make an electoral path to Primary victory in the GOP. Too many people are easily turned into retards when a big money spender tells his employees that they have to destroy his opponent. Attack on Capitalism! A moon base, is he insane it will be trillions of dollars. Right now we are talking about sending Humans to the Red Planet in the same time frame Newt said we could start a moon base and in a budget in the low billions. Newt said nothing other than what Bush had proposed to accolades previously.
There is no longer an opposition party. A thin minority are the opposition now with the rest looking for ways to broaden the regressive votes through amnesty diluting what little voting power conservatives have.

astonerii on August 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM

The only way Christie can see gaze at his navel is with a mirror about 20 feet away…

dpduq on August 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM

“We need to stop navel gazing

When was the last time this tub o lard has seen his own navel, I’d guess 1985!

CC started imploding with his lackluster performance at the R convention and kissed his @ss goodbye to conservatives when he publicly sucked barky in the aftermath of a superstorm.

Elephants have long memories walrus.

D-fusit on August 15, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Fat and Furious

faraway on August 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Bwaa haa haaa.

PERFECT.

portlandon on August 15, 2013 at 11:03 PM

When was the last time CC took on Obama?

BoxHead1 on August 15, 2013 at 8:22 PM

…he just can’t doggie dry hump JugEars legs this week!…he’s golfing all week…and keeps lifting his knees after EVERY shot!

KOOLAID2 on August 15, 2013 at 11:20 PM

He will find a way to make the medicinal marijuana thing go away. He’s smart to attack Piyush and Randal. He’s baiting Randal into a month’s long okie-doke. Watch and learn lugnuts.

Chris Christie is the one Republican among the potential candidates who gets the point of moderating one’s public image. He uses the Jersey-loudmouth thing as cover to give the impression that he’s a hard*ss. Then he just holds fast on winning conservative issues. Plus he wins independents by being reasonable on social issues. He doesn’t really give that much ground.

Yes, he sucks on gun control. He’s not moderate, he’s left of center on gun issues. There are no redeeming words for this sad fact. One would think the way he reacted to being asked about his kids schooling would belie a similar penchant for protecting others’ rights. Romney wasn’t great on gun control either. Perry has the lock on that. But Perry is loopy.

Capitalist Hog on August 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM

1) It’s not a business. It’s government. They are different things.

2) He was not in it to win in 2012. If he was he would not have had a bromance with Obama.

3) He is in it for himself. That may be what he means.

4) His self-interest is more important than anything else.

What will it take to convince this guy not to run? He will lose worse than McCain and Romney. He’s alienated too much of the Republican base. He can’t get their votes and he won’t win without them.

InterestedObserver on August 15, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Being “brash” and confrontational got him two terms as governor in a blue state.

Er…not yet. He won one term as governor in a blue state, and is up for re-election this November.

“I’m not going to be one of these people who goes around and calls our party stupid,” Christie said, a startling remark given that Jindal and Christie work hand-in-hand as chairman and vice-chairman of the Republican Governors Association.

Bobby Jindal is one of the LAST people anyone should call stupid–he is probably one of the most brilliant men ever to be elected Governor (twice), yet impressed Louisianans with his down-to-earth git-er-done attitude in response to the 2010 BP oil spill.

Jindal’s remarks about Republicans being the “stupid party” were more in reference to downright stupid statements from Senate candidates Todd Aiken and Richard Mourdock about rape, which should be condemned by anyone with a heart or soul.

Gov. Jindal is a rare breed among politicians–a brilliant child prodigy of Indian descent who sticks to his conservative principles, practices what he preaches, and managed to sell them to the voters of a deep-South state–twice. He is far less brash than Christie, but can express himself clearly without offending people, which makes him very likeable to the voters.

Steve Z on August 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Christie was a lobbyist who was given the US Attorney position because he made Bush admin officials $$$.

He has never been anything more than a fat hack.

tetriskid on August 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

There’s nothing wrong with our principles.

Huh? Christie rejects nearly every conservative principle there is.

WTF is he talking about?

ButterflyDragon on August 15, 2013 at 8:44 PM

“Our” principles.

“Our”, as in “himself and his BFF Barky”. Makes perfect sense.

bofh on August 16, 2013 at 12:30 AM

“…And so I am going to do anything I need to do to win…”

Is this statement right out of “All the Kings Men“?

This would explain much regarding Gov Christie Long.

Freddy on August 16, 2013 at 1:24 AM

If it is difficult to figure out why or what Christie is saying it’s because he’s a typical politician. Always spout nonsense so you don’t have to defend your positions. You can play the misunderstood victim.

Content-free so-called ‘pragmatism’ is the problem, not the solution.”

Yep!

Vince on August 16, 2013 at 2:14 AM

More government bloat.

profitsbeard on August 16, 2013 at 4:05 AM

Go to hell Christie.

TX-96 on August 16, 2013 at 6:17 AM

Nominate Christie, and the GOP may as well not exist. Maybe then I’ll buy into the “whacko birds” who say there really is only one party in Washington.

Christie’s rivals for the nomination need to make frequent use of those Obama bear hug clips in their anti-Christie ads. And accurately describing his record might help, too.

DRayRaven on August 16, 2013 at 6:23 AM

Christie will never run. Never…run.

crash72 on August 16, 2013 at 6:42 AM

It’s going to come down to Christie VS Cruz, and Cruz will prevail.

bluegill on August 16, 2013 at 7:44 AM

Never forget, fellow voters: I am the problem. I started the circular firing squad. If I’d have just shut up and let things play out for Romney in ’12, he would have won and been our salvation. Or something.

/

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:07 AM

It’s going to come down to Christie VS Cruz, and Cruz will prevail.

bluegill on August 16, 2013 at 7:44 AM

You mean the guy who skated into the senate with Sarah Palin’s help, and gave her most of the credit for that fact? I find your schizophrenic tendancies quite amusing. :)

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Does the party want to nominate someone who’s campaigning explicitly on bipartisanship or someone willing to filibuster, for 13 hours straight if need be, to extract concessions from the other side?

I’ll take someone willing to filibuster, for 13 hours straight if need be, to extract concessions from the other side for $100 Alex

Buttercup on August 16, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Christie will never run. Never…run.

crash72 on August 16, 2013 at 6:42 AM

True Dat. He’ll need mobility assistance before long.
The first candidate to campaign in a Rascal/Hoveround.

Buttercup on August 16, 2013 at 8:29 AM

I guess this is going to be his approach, whether or not it alienates righty votes he’ll need in the general election

Again: That all depends upon whether or not he’ll run in his own soul party-the Democratic one. In which case, he’s playing great game..who knows, VP with Hillary?

Little is more obnoxious that a big blustery bully without principles and plenty of hypocrisy. Whatever happened to honsty, integrity and character in our wannabe leaders?

Don L on August 16, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Conservatives love Christie because of the way he talks to union dupes; it’s all about his confrontational style. After that, however, when you get down to it, he is John McCain without the Jenny Craig.

Christie? No No No No No No No No No No No No

BigAlSouth on August 16, 2013 at 8:37 AM

It’s going to come down to Christie VS Cruz, and Cruz will prevail.

bluegill on August 16, 2013 at 7:44 AM
You mean the guy who skated into the senate with Sarah Palin’s help, and gave her most of the credit for that fact? I find your schizophrenic tendancies quite amusing. :)

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:11 AM

gryphon, maybe you’re missing the envy card, which explains the dual personality.

Don L on August 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Christie is so Gandolfini to me now.

44Magnum on August 16, 2013 at 8:47 AM

It’s going to come down to Christie VS Cruz, and Cruz will prevail.

bluegill on August 16, 2013 at 7:44 AM

You mean the guy who skated into the senate with Sarah Palin’s help, and gave her most of the credit for that fact? I find your schizophrenic tendancies quite amusing. :)

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:11 AM

gryphon, maybe you’re missing the envy card, which explains the dual personality.

Don L on August 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM

I picked right up on it. It’s just that pointing it out is one sure way to ensure the gilled one’s silence.

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Christie is so Gandolfini to me now.

44Magnum on August 16, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Some of us tried to warn the voters about Christie. Others of us tried to warn the voters about Rubio. Now there are those of us trying to warn the voters about the GOP. We’re laughed at every goddam time. Seeing a pattern yet?

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:49 AM

You mean the guy who skated into the senate with Sarah Palin’s help, and gave her most of the credit for that fact? I find your schizophrenic tendancies quite amusing. :)

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:11 AM

do you mean toomey? or rubio? maybe you mean mccain? could also be flake or ayotte.

chasdal on August 16, 2013 at 8:56 AM

S Others of us tried to warn the voters about Rubio. gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:49 AM

are you seriously claiming you were warning people about rubio when he ran for office??? for real??

chasdal on August 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM

With each passing day I am more and more glad that I have left the Republican party.

Chris of Rights on August 16, 2013 at 9:10 AM

S Others of us tried to warn the voters about Rubio. gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:49 AM

are you seriously claiming you were warning people about rubio when he ran for office??? for real??

chasdal on August 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM

No. It’s not the royal “we,” chas. I didn’t know much about Rubio while he was running against Crist, but I had several very good friends of mine who lived in Florida at the time (and a couple of whom still do) who were shouting from the rooftops what a skeezy amnesty pusher Rubio was even back then.

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 9:10 AM

“I’m not going to be one of these people who goes around and calls our party stupid,” Christie said

Nah – but I am going around acting like a horse’s arse and insulting other GOP types who don’t agree with me.

Why not jump in early to give the libs plenty of examples of how “even other Republicans think “so-and-so” is stupid, wrong, fringe.” Why not attack others in the party early under the misguided belief that all their supporters will rally to him because winning is the only thing that matters.

Christie is giving himself time enough that the general voting public may grow tired of him just like many NJ people have.

katiejane on August 16, 2013 at 9:27 AM

There’s too much at stake for this to be an academic exercise.
-Christie

The Repub Party is well in need of some academic exercising.
(And hope Paul resists the urge to make easy fun of the ‘excersise’ bit.)
Things are looking up for a much more substantive GOP race here.

verbaluce on August 16, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Isn’t that what the last guy said, until it came out he really didn’t want to. I hope that’s not a recent picture cuz a guy who had lapband surgery should look thinner by now. Instead of telling us he wants to win maybe he could let us in on what he plans to do to us after that happens.

Kissmygrits on August 16, 2013 at 9:31 AM

With each passing day I am more and more glad that I have left the Republican party.

Chris of Rights on August 16, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Even if Christie doesn’t win the nomination, it’s thoroughly depressing that he’s the front runner in most polls.

I’m guess that for many of us who are still *technically* Republicans because we’re registered that way, a Christie nomination would be the final straw. If that happens, I’m going full-bore Libertarian. Eff the GOP…and if they pass Amnesty, it’ll happen before then.

DRayRaven on August 16, 2013 at 9:31 AM

No. It’s not the royal “we,” chas. I didn’t know much about Rubio while he was running against Crist, but I had several very good friends of mine who lived in Florida at the time (and a couple of whom still do) who were shouting from the rooftops what a skeezy amnesty pusher Rubio was even back then.

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 9:10 AM

guess you shoulda let sarah know, huh? that vaunted “vetting” process of hers coulda used some help.

chasdal on August 16, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Exit quotation from Rand Paul: “I think that the Republican party is big enough for the both of us.” Is it?

This makes me laugh!

As far as Christie, we knew he was running when he finally was doing something about his weight.

Amjean on August 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Christie is a closet communist. He’ll be the GOP golden boy. NO doubt in my mind.

Mr. Arrogant on August 16, 2013 at 10:00 AM

“I think we have some folks who believe that our job is to be college professors,” he said. “Now college professors are fine I guess. Being a college professor, they basically spout out ideas that nobody does anything about. For our ideas to matter we have to win. Because if we don’t win, we don’t govern. And if we don’t govern all we do is shout to the wind. And so I am going to do anything I need to do to win.”…
……………………………

How could anyone believe anything this fat fool has to say.
Above he says for our ideas to matter we have to win.
He must think we are all brain dead to make a statement like that.
Does he forget walking arm in arm with the biggest threat to this country ever?A man who was despearte to look bi-partisan. Christie gave that to obama only days before the election of the ccntury.
Did he forget all that? Was that about “us” winning. What a dolt.
How can anyone believe anything this fat cow has to say?

rodguy911 on August 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM

He will find a way to make the medicinal marijuana thing go away. He’s smart to attack Piyush and Randal. He’s baiting Randal into a month’s long okie-doke. Watch and learn lugnuts.

Chris Christie is the one Republican among the potential candidates who gets the point of moderating one’s public image. He uses the Jersey-loudmouth thing as cover to give the impression that he’s a hard*ss. Then he just holds fast on winning conservative issues. Plus he wins independents by being reasonable on social issues. He doesn’t really give that much ground.

Yes, he sucks on gun control. He’s not moderate, he’s left of center on gun issues. There are no redeeming words for this sad fact. One would think the way he reacted to being asked about his kids schooling would belie a similar penchant for protecting others’ rights. Romney wasn’t great on gun control either. Perry has the lock on that. But Perry is loopy.

Capitalist Hog on August 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM

It’s so cute to see the psychotic Moby-troll play pretend conservative. Watch his gorge rise every time he throws a phony bone at -real- minority conservatives. You can almost hear the gagging through your screen.

ebrown2 on August 16, 2013 at 10:10 AM

1) It’s not a business. It’s government. They are different things.

2) He was not in it to win in 2012. If he was he would not have had a bromance with Obama.

3) He is in it for himself. That may be what he means.

4) His self-interest is more important than anything else.

What will it take to convince this guy not to run? He will lose worse than McCain and Romney. He’s alienated too much of the Republican base. He can’t get their votes and he won’t win without them.

InterestedObserver on August 15, 2013 at 11:23 PM
………………
Great post! Had to be repeated.

rodguy911 on August 16, 2013 at 10:10 AM

“I’m not going to be one of these people who goes around and calls our party stupid…”

But I will imply our members, who happen to be other potential presidential candidates are.

I am all for a healthy, no-holds barred debate on the future of our party and it should indeed start with ideas and principles.

So, what is it that Mr. Christie brings to the debate which is a fresh idea or actions which consistently exemplifies principle? How does he plan to “bring us together?

Crickets.

I frankly don’t believe Jindal or Paul have much appeal as presidential candidates. So to somehow believe that Christie is “superior to them isn’t saying much.

Marcus Traianus on August 16, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Seeing a pattern yet?

gryphon202 on August 16, 2013 at 8:49 AM

yeah, you’re a bore that likes to say I told you so

DanMan on August 16, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Here we go. They never learn ANYTHING from the past, do they? Savage each other until everyone in the field is discredited, then lay down and give belly to the Dems. My God, we really are never going to see another Republican president. If this is the quality of candidates they have, then maybe that’s for the best.

blackgriffin on August 16, 2013 at 10:24 AM

There’s nothing wrong with our principles. We need to focus on winning again.

Well, there you go, THATs the GOPs problem…. amazing. It’s like you proclaim it so, then it shall come to be.

How’s that working out for Christie and being FAT?

And, by the way, I could’ve sworn that the “elephant” was known for a good memory.

On the eve of a big “important election”, this BIG LUG, gives kudos to the SOB. You don’t do that in the middle of a game, you do it after.

-west

mr_west on August 16, 2013 at 10:26 AM

There is absolutely no question that he’s running.

And lately I’ve been modifying my sense of his potential. He’s smarter than I’ve guessed, politically speaking. He understands the deep hunger for outspokenness and confrontation within the grassroots and the party. The hunger is so great, and so ignored in the past even by the most worthy conservatives with the possible exception of Palin, that this could carry him through despite his many bad positions. Christie could go very far on brashness alone.

The sick irony here would be that when the GOP finally discovered confrontational politics it would be from a RINO. I did predict the adoption of Leftist qualities in RINOs. Consider Christie RINO 2.0. It’s brilliant: he delights the moderates who hate conservatives and he could thrill a lot of LIVs who feel viscerally moved by his aggression.

Christie is striking at the central weakness of the Republican character — its mild-manneredness in an era of savage politics. Christie knows (or at least at times behaves as if he knows) the nature of the Left. He understands the political value of confrontation. Many on our side could gravitate to this.

If Paul and the others in his crosshairs play this game defensively or coyly they will fail. They could also fail if they over-compensate with nastiness. Christie has the advantage of being naturally abusive. He knows how to make it look politically attractive and useful.

Christie is formidable.

rrpjr on August 16, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Why the hell would I be interested in him winning if he governed the same as Hillary would? In fact him winning would do more harm.

Great presidents have grand visions. The are not simply political opportunists. I voted for the last two terrible candidates but I will vote against this man.

jhffmn on August 16, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Here we go. They never learn ANYTHING from the past, do they? Savage each other until everyone in the field is discredited, then lay down and give belly to the Dems. My God, we really are never going to see another Republican president. If this is the quality of candidates they have, then maybe that’s for the best.

blackgriffin on August 16, 2013 at 10:24 AM

We’re all just too good for anyone so why don’t we just stay home and stroke our principles.

rhombus on August 16, 2013 at 10:33 AM

“I think we have some folks who believe that our job is to be college professors,” he said.

“We need to stop navel gazing. There’s nothing wrong with our principles. We need to focus on winning again. There’s too much at stake for this to be an academic exercise. We need to win and govern with authority and courage.”

I’m sorry, but that’s brilliant.

rrpjr on August 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM

I want people to think back to 2008 when McCain was promising to bail out individual mortgages. If he had won wed have gotten the stimulus, some form of obamacare, and amnesty by now. As terrible as it is to admit we are better off having had him lose.

jhffmn on August 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Christie can take his fat-ass RINO self and go eff himself. Republicans need to kick the progressive bastards out once and for all.

RobertE on August 16, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Instead of telling us he wants to win maybe he could let us in on what he plans to do to us…

Kissmygrits on August 16, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Yeah what she said.

Buttercup on August 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Christie hasn’t figured out government is the problem, not the solution.

Tater Salad on August 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM

If his big fat dumb ass was “in it to win it”, the first thing you wouldn’t do is piss off half of your own voters.

Tater Salad on August 16, 2013 at 11:03 AM

I’m sorry, but that’s brilliant.

rrpjr on August 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM

If only he would have taken that attitude with Obama in ’12 and not grovelled for money we wouldn’t need his academic lecture.

Tater Salad on August 16, 2013 at 11:09 AM

The only way Christie can see gaze at his navel is with a mirror about 20 feet away…

dpduq on August 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM

He, he…..
Christie is a dickhead, ’nuff said.

tencole on August 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM

If this fat RINO gets the nomination I will vote dem for Prez for first time in my life. If we’re going to have a dem I will take the one not misrepresenting what party they belong to and what they stand for. No more northeast RINOs!,,,

Doomsday on August 16, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Christie is a democrat. The R next to his name is for display purposes only.

zoyclem on August 16, 2013 at 12:02 PM

must be eating his weight in twinkies because that lap band doesn’t seem to be helping.

Kaptain Amerika on August 16, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Christie is addicted to goverment spending like a meth addict is addicted to narcotics.

ErnstBlofeld on August 16, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Christie is striking at the central weakness of the Republican character — its mild-manneredness in an era of savage politics. Christie knows (or at least at times behaves as if he knows) the nature of the Left. He understands the political value of confrontation. Many on our side could gravitate to this.

While what you say is true I think there is more to it than that.
Christie appears to be a bit more poltical than most from our side.Not that Christie is on our side I think he’s strictly on his side and is perfetly willing to throw everyne else regardless of who under the bus.An attitude like this works well when you go up against leftists.
What Republicans have ignored for years and Christe seems to be aware of is that everything with the left is political. Once you figure that one out it gets a little bit easier to diagnose what is coming next which is really all politics amounts to.
And since they can’t run on any platform since few would vote for it,it becomes easier to beat them.
That being said I would never trust this man. He has already proven he will sell us out for even a glimpse of a few bucks.Christie is not someone we need to promote.

rodguy911 on August 16, 2013 at 12:09 PM

To be truly safe, we need an Amendment banning any candidate from the Northeast Corridor. Labels, parties and platforms apparently don’t matter – it’s all one statist swamp.

jangle12 on August 16, 2013 at 12:24 PM

rodguy911 on August 16, 2013 at 12:09 PM

I don’t trust him either. I despise him. But I’m beginning to recognize his talent. He is the next evolution of the RINO, having absorbed the proactively confrontational and exploitive stylisms of the Left. For many LIVs on the right, he will come off as a bracing tonic. He’s very dangerous.

I don’t think people like Jindall have a clue what’s going on here. Rand Paul might. But maybe only Ted Cruz could stand up to Christie. It remains to be seen.

rrpjr on August 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Slightly off-topic, but…

Aren’t the fat jokes getting a little old?
What are we, in 3rd grade?

Please, please, please… let’s not become like the Alyinsky-ized left and make EVERYTHING into a personal attack.

Don’t like the guys politics?
Fine.

Say so with inteligence and an understanding that disagreeing about stupid things like politics does not require you to hate another human being.

RightWay79 on August 16, 2013 at 12:53 PM

We need to stop navel gazing. There’s nothing wrong with our principles. We need to focus on winning again. There’s too much at stake for this to be an academic exercise. We need to win and govern with authority and courage.”

It’s nice that Christie is calling for the GOP to take it to the Dems and try to win. However the problem with his statement is that some people aren’t real sure he shares the principles they do.

If he plans on governing no differently than the Dems do, winning doesn’t seem like a big deal.

katiejane on August 16, 2013 at 12:55 PM

However the problem with his statement is that some people aren’t real sure he shares the principles they do.
katiejane on August 16, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Why is that a problem? It wasn’t a problem in Romney’s case. Or McCain’s. They both won the nomination.

rrpjr on August 16, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Elephants have long memories walrus.

D-fusit on August 15, 2013 at 10:54 PM

F**kin’ A…

JohnGalt23 on August 16, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Please, please, please… let’s not become like the Alyinsky-ized left and make EVERYTHING into a personal attack.

RightWay79 on August 16, 2013 at 12:53 PM

I dunno… seems to have worked out for them just fine…

JohnGalt23 on August 16, 2013 at 1:17 PM

I dunno… seems to have worked out for them just fine…

JohnGalt23 on August 16, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Certainly has.

But Honor is still something we should value.

And maybe Christie would criticize my approach as also being “too academic”… but, I just don’t see the point of gaining the world and losing our souls.

And by “losing our souls”, I am not talking about policy-wise. There are more important things than political positions.

That’s why I am a Conservative… Conservatism (in the Burkean and “Kirk-ian” tradition) seems to be the one political philosophy which recognizes the greater things in life.

RightWay79 on August 16, 2013 at 1:24 PM

“not a debating society”…hmmm…he doesn’t have a clue about New Hampshire politics, LOL.

As a New Hampshire Independent, I absolutely will not vote for Chris Christie…along with a number of his progressive ideas, the day he called a polite but disagreeing (as oppsed to disagreeable) Iraq veteran an “Idiot” and to (paraphrased) “shut up and sit down, I’m the governor”…that was it for me. You can’t even scare me with “but the alternative”…nope, I’m good with the alternative if he’s the nominee…finally putting my foot down.

NHElle on August 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Christie is giving himself time enough that the general voting public may grow tired of him just like many NJ people have.

katiejane on August 16, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Tell it, sista.

NJ Red on August 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM

I don’t trust him either. I despise him. But I’m beginning to recognize his talent. He is the next evolution of the RINO, having absorbed the proactively confrontational and exploitive stylisms of the Left. For many LIVs on the right, he will come off as a bracing tonic. He’s very dangerous.

If he tries pulling that against Queen Hillary, it will backfire.

NJ Red on August 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM

He, he…..
Christie is a dickhead, ’nuff said.

tencole on August 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM

No he’s a “DickieDo” cause his belly sticks out farther than his…..well, you get it. LOL.

NJ Red on August 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Sure would be nice if we had a Mike Lee or Dr. Ben Carson running by 2016. Cruz is a good candidate but few others bring up any real excitment.

rodguy911 on August 16, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Aren’t the fat jokes getting a little old?
What are we, in 3rd grade?

RightWay79 on August 16, 2013 at 12:53 PM

No. Fat jokes never get old. Kristy made a big deal about how he was losing weight because he cared such a great deal about his family. All he’s proven is that he’s a glutton with no self-control and he looks like a tick about to pop. Do you have any idea how much food a person has to stuff in their pie to get and remain that fat? It’s a full time job to maintain that weight let alone keep adding to it. We have enough gluttony in DC already. His morbid obesity is not off limits.
Thanks to summer school I’ll be in the 4th grade this fall!

Buttercup on August 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM

That’s why I am a Conservative… Conservatism (in the Burkean and “Kirk-ian” tradition) seems to be the one political philosophy which recognizes the greater things in life.

RightWay79 on August 16, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Which is all well and good. And I’m not such a cynic that I would try to dissuade anyone from those ideals.

But I’m also rather sure that both Edmund Burke and Russell Kirk would inform us, were they here to do so, that at some point intellectual movements must use politics and political parties, and all the tools that parties provide, to move the agenda forward, if only to avoid intellectual ossification.

Well, one of the tools that politics provides us is the ability to personalize an attack against our political/intellectual opposition, and with sheer force of numbers and the attending volume, really make that attack hurt.

Is it pretty? No.

Is it fair…? We all know in this arena, fair is what the electorate lets you get away with.

But those are not, in times of great crisis, the first questions we need ask. I’m sorry, but I refuse to let the Burkean tradition be a suicide pact. No, the first question I would ask is: If the positions were reversed, would my political/intellectual counterparts use similar tactics.

And of course, the answer would be: They already are.

Then I would ask myself: Is there a better way? Is there a higher road to victory.

I offer up as evidence the last two presidential elections, elections waged on our side, by the by, in MoQ fashion. And I would say, no, the higher road has failed us.

At which point, it is only a matter of if we have the stomach to do what has proven to be necessary…

JohnGalt23 on August 16, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Christie is a dickhead, ’nuff said.

Seems about right to me.

mountainaires on August 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Governor Christie’s apparent approach of attacking potential GOP rivals won’t work. Romney did it and lost the general election. If Christie does it, he won’t even get the nomination.

Phil Byler on August 16, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Might not like him, but I admire Christie’s political talent

His boldness and brass ass attitude are adored by most voters who are sick of the party wimps

You bet he’s running and Christie has the big $$ behind him. Does he win the nomination…only time will tell

Long way to go…but regular low info voters love him…

Redford on August 16, 2013 at 6:00 PM

“We’re all just too good for anyone so why don’t we just stay home and stroke our principles.” rhombus

That response doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. You’re just talking sh@t for the fun of it, aren’t you? And you still didn’t show how what I wrote is wrong, did you?Make a cogent point or don’t bother.

blackgriffin on August 16, 2013 at 6:50 PM

I’m guess that for many of us who are still *technically* Republicans because we’re registered that way, a Christie nomination would be the final straw. If that happens, I’m going full-bore Libertarian. Eff the GOP…and if they pass Amnesty, it’ll happen before then.

DRayRaven on August 16, 2013 at 9:31 AM

The smarter move would be to support the Constitution Party, which unlike the Libertarian Party is not the other side of the Leftist coin (the Libertarian Party, after all, believes as the Democrats do that all rights are mere civil rights, including the most fundamental of rights, life).

TXJenny on August 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM

I feel the only people who really want Christie to be the GOP choice are the same people who wanted…McCain, Romney, and GW. Wait a minute…why are we letting the media and Dems dictate our candidates, again?

Also, hilarious to see some good old Republicans and neocons still fear mongering about Libertarians. Keep it up, fellas; its “working for you”.

Sammo21 on August 17, 2013 at 1:47 AM

The Romney supporters will tell you that No Matter Who the GOPe Selects, YOU MUST SUPPORT HIM, or risk being labeled as democrat ASStroturf, a traitor, etc.

No wonder I love the TEA Party folks. They are well fed up with the GOP elitists and their puppets. Maybe that is why they’ve gotten so many good Conservative candidates elected, and why they’ve managed to turn the entire state of Michigan around from being the #1 Welfare State.

BTW, my thanks to California and Illinois for taking in so many of those welfare recipients who used to live in Detroit.

DannoJyd on August 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM

The Romney supporters will tell you that No Matter Who the GOPe Selects, YOU MUST SUPPORT HIM, or risk being labeled as democrat ASStroturf, a traitor, etc.
No wonder I love the TEA Party folks.
DannoJyd on August 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Sorry to say, but your comment is pure stupidity,

I was a proud Romney supporter and I am also a tea partier. Quit acting like the two things were mutually exclusive.

If you didn’t vote for Romney last November, then shame on you; you deserve to be called every name in the book!

bluegill on August 19, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Comment pages: 1 2