Reminder from Mitch McConnell to tea partiers: A government shutdown over ObamaCare isn’t happening

posted at 5:21 pm on August 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Daily Caller. No surprise that he feels this way, but I believe his comments here are the first time he’s pooh-poohed a shutdown publicly. Which, in itself, tells you what a terrible idea the GOP leadership thinks it is: McConnell’s desperate to pander to tea partiers in hopes of avoiding a serious primary challenge in Kentucky next year but the thought of a shutdown is simply a bridge too far, even though he’s getting killed for it on sites like Red State. In fact, John Cornyn, McConnell’s deputy in the Senate leadership and another guy who’s terrified of a Cruz-like primary challenger, allegedly did decide to go all the way on pandermonium and signed Mike Lee’s letter committing to a filibuster to defund O-Care — only to be pressured by McConnell into removing his name before it went public. Boehner and Cantor are on the same page, which is why Ted Cruz is begging grassroots righties to phone their congressman and senator to demand defunding. If McConnell’s willing to say something like this on camera, he can’t be feeling too much heat.

Or is he? Key data from a poll commissioned by the Heritage Foundation’s lobbying arm:

The poll of likely voters in 10 Republican-leaning congressional districts shows that 28 percent of those polled would blame the GOP, 22 percent would blame Obama, 19 percent would blame congressional Democrats, 5 percent would blame the tea party and 17 percent would spread the blame around. About 60 percent said they would support a “slowdown” in non-essential services in response to carefully-worded question that does not include the word “shutdown.”

“There’s a recognition that the president would be willing to force a budget showdown … in order to keep Obamacare in full force,” said Heritage Action pollster Jon Lerner. “There’s no doubt that some voters would blame Republicans for a government shutdown. There’s also no doubt some voters would blame President Obama’s uncompromising view.”

A majority of those polled said they’d be less likely to support the reelection efforts of House members who voted to continue Obamacare funding while 48 percent said they’d be more likely to support a member who did “everything” they could to slow down implementation of the law.

Interesting, but I’d rather see a poll of states where the GOP is aiming to pick up Senate seats. Holding the House is easy — although maybe not as easy as once thought. Retaking the Senate is where the action is. Is a shutdown over ObamaCare a net winner in 2014 battlegrounds like Maine, Michigan, and Iowa?

By the way, when McConnell says that a shutdown won’t stop O-Care from being funded, he doesn’t mean that Obama will inevitably win the standoff (although he surely believes that too). He means it literally — according to a CRS study commissioned by Tom Coburn, ObamaCare will likely continue to be funded even if other parts of the government go dark because some of its provisions have permanent appropriations and some can be bankrolled by O moving other federal money around. He’s arguing that this is futile from the word go, not that it’ll be futile once the GOP inevitably caves after a shutdown.


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This is frustrating. Nobody in the GOP is talking about shutting down government. They are talking about funding all of government EXCEPT Obamacare. If soldiers don’t get paychecks as a result of that, it’s on Obama.

Now I know the media won’t spin it that way, of course. But McConnell could at least be honest about what the plan is.

Missy on August 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM

“Splunge !!! It means it has its good points but maybe not and I’m not being indecisive !!!”

—— The Irving O. Selzberg (Hollyweird producer sketch), Monty Python’s Flying Circus

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM

A government shutdown would only happen if the Senate didn’t pass a House funding plan for government.

Unless yet another Republican Nancy Boy is telling everyone he’s already ceded the language.

MNHawk on August 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM

There are much better fights to win on than the funding piece – like delaying the individual mandate.

matthew8787 on August 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Is a shutdown over ObamaCare a net winner in 2014 battlegrounds like Maine…?

When did Maine become a battleground?

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 5:33 PM

I’m convinced more than ever that Bam has neckid pictures of McConnell.

avagreen on August 14, 2013 at 5:34 PM

This old white man is the old white man problem of the Republican go along RINO infested Republican party.

Enabled by Karl Rove and the other stickey fingers in the tax money we waste on them.

Just vote them out.

McConnell gets the no vote for sure.

Sleeps with the traitor commie Democrats for his share of the “pork”.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Reminder from Mitch McConnell to tea partiers: A government shutdown over ObamaCare isn’t happening

Dear Mitch:

The Tea Party Movement isn’t talking about shutting down government. They are talking about de-funding Obamacare. You might have heard about it. In case you haven’t, it destroys the American healthcare system. The Tea Party folks in Congress (many who were elected to kill Obamacare) see more than “glitches” in the problems with this legislation

If the House votes to defund Obamacare, then I would hope that you do what you can to support them. Granted with a racist Morman tyrant in charge of the Senate, you may not get far. But this much is clear. If there is going to be a government shutdown it comes from limp noodles like you and your counterpart in the house finally having a spine and standing up for conservative principles. The rat-eared bastard at the other end of Pennsylvania Ave. and his filthy party are the ones that will decide if government is shut down. But only if you grow a pair and start acting like a Republican.

P.S. I seem to recall some talk about 2014 being a year you are up for re-election.

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Shiz, even getting a full repeal in both houses and over-riding Obozo’s veto won’t stop it because Obama will ignore the law….again. Both houses and the White House is the only thing that is going to stop it.

Zaggs on August 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM

People like McConnell smell of fear, reaks with it.

Throws in the towel before the fight weigh in takes place.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 14, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Old white man with many,many, “ear marks” showing on both ears.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 14, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Is a shutdown over ObamaCare a net winner in 2014 battlegrounds like Maine…?

When did Maine become a battleground?

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 5:33 PM

When they decided they wanted a TrueRat rather than the younger of the Maine Sisters.

Remember, the battle isn’t to get to 51, it’s to stay above 40 (ah, forget it Sophie, it’s DC where there are always 6 RepublicRATs ready to stab their party-of-record in the back for the benefit of their party-of-heart).

Steve Eggleston on August 14, 2013 at 5:39 PM

let’s see, Harry Reid threatened to go nuclear on the filibuster and got Obama’s recess appointments installed

Obama is picking and choosing what laws apply with no pushback

we’re projected to run a $700 billion deficit with no budget and calling it good because its the first that comes in under a trillion dollars since Obama showed up

zero growth

Who’d want to mess with this utopia?

Pease Kentucky, primary this guy. We’re working on finding Cornyn’s replacement down here. He’s been consumed by the DC fever.

DanMan on August 14, 2013 at 5:39 PM

He thinks the shut down idea is “terrible”? Well funnily enough, we think his leadership is even more terrible. What a tool.

Of course, with a good national Republican leader capable of articulating a popular GOP vision for the country, a guy like McConnell (schooled as he is in how to get legislation through the Senate) would be invaluable. Without such a leader, he’s hardly worth noticing.

MTF on August 14, 2013 at 5:39 PM

He’s McConnell’s arguing that this he is futile from the word go, not that it’ll he’ll be futile once the GOP inevitably caves after a shutdown.

FIFY.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM

“I’m for stopping Obamacare…”

Liar.

rickv404 on August 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM

“Old Fart Politician Worries He Could Lose Cushy Lifestyle”

somewhatconcerned on August 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM

No surprise – a shutdown would mean using “GOP” in the same sentence with an assortment of the following: “principles”, “balls”, “spine”, etc.

Not going to happen – no one ever really thought it would, did they?

Midas on August 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM

We lost the war on Obamacare when the supreme court upheld it and we nominated Romney to run against it. We’ll lose any chance of stopping Obama or winning the White House when they pass amnesty in the fall.

El_Terrible on August 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Secret strategy meeting devolves into “I’m waaaaay too chicken to do this…” meeting.

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Now I know the media won’t spin it that way, of course. But McConnell could at least be honest about what the plan is.

Missy on August 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM

He won’t because he supports Obamacare.

Doomberg on August 14, 2013 at 5:45 PM

This is frustrating. Nobody in the GOP is talking about shutting down government. They are talking about funding all of government EXCEPT Obamacare. If soldiers don’t get paychecks as a result of that, it’s on Obama.

Now I know the media won’t spin it that way, of course. But McConnell could at least be honest about what the plan is.

Missy on August 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Apparently that’s too much to ask.

I admit – I snickered a little at the use of the word ‘honest’ in there so close to the name of a career politician.

Midas on August 14, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Enjoy the primary Mitch.

voiceofreason on August 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Remember, the battle isn’t to get to 51, it’s to stay above 40

Steve, since the funding was declared a tax doesn’t that bring it into the funding realm of only needing a simple majority to pass in the senate? I thought funding issues, which are supposed to originate in the house are voted that way. Recall Harry Reid’s joke budget passed in the senate 50-49. That he hasn’t sent it to the house is another issue.

DanMan on August 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM

He won’t because he supports Obamacare.

Doomberg on August 14, 2013 at 5:45 PM

McConnell likely supports amnesty as well for his deep pockets bundlers wanting cheap labor.

In DC too long to remember he works for the serfs. Like Hatch, McVain, Miss Lindsey etc.

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM

A reminder to all of us, as Mickey Kaus says:

Town Hall Silence = Amenesty

Now we are grilling Repubs at these August Town Halls on Obamacare funding, arguably a pie in the sky thing, while ignoring a REAL thing, amnesty. We will be stuck with amnesty if we don’t set our priorities and get on these Repubs about amnesty NOW.

anotherJoe on August 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Can Rand Paul clarify why exactly did he endorse McConnell for re-election? I’d rather see a primary develop with Paul actually supporting anyone running AGAINST Mitch. Paul is way better than Rubio, but is quickly following same “irrelevance” path…

riddick on August 14, 2013 at 5:49 PM

And the Tea Party response should be to run a strong conservative candidate against him.

Amjean on August 14, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Steve, since the funding was declared a tax doesn’t that bring it into the funding realm of only needing a simple majority to pass in the senate? I thought funding issues, which are supposed to originate in the house are voted that way. Recall Harry Reid’s joke budget passed in the senate 50-49. That he hasn’t sent it to the house is another issue.

DanMan on August 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM

It’s appropirations that are (re)crafted pursuant to a “reconciliation” measure in an adopted budget that are not subject to a filibuster. That’s why PlaceboCare was able to get through after Scott Brown promised to be the 41st vote against it.

Steve Eggleston on August 14, 2013 at 5:52 PM

The GOP is doing to conservatives with Obamacare exactly what Obama is doing for the Democrats with immigration, Carbon legislation, and the rest of their wish list.

They mean to keep conservatives on the string by claiming that they will repeal Obamacare… and replace it with …. something else… they don’t say what the replacement might be… when they really mean to use it as an effective tool to get the RIGHT to the polls to keep them in office. The more Obamacare hurts, the more people will turn out to vote in HOPES Of getting rid of it in 2014.

One of them literally said as much.

thatsafactjack on August 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM

By the way, when McConnell says that a shutdown won’t stop O-Care from being funded, he doesn’t mean that Obama will inevitably win the standoff (although he surely believes that too). He means it literally — according to a CRS study commissioned by Tom Coburn, ObamaCare will likely continue to be funded even if other parts of the government go dark because some of its provisions have permanent appropriations and some can be bankrolled by O moving other federal money around. He’s arguing that this is futile from the word go, not that it’ll be futile once the GOP inevitably caves after a shutdown.

I don’t get it. If it’s already funded, then whats the fuss? Just pass the bill without funding for Obamacare in it – since they argue that new funding isn’t even needed.

Or they’re lying. Which seems more likely.

besser tot als rot on August 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Can Rand Paul clarify why exactly did he endorse McConnell for re-election? I’d rather see a primary develop with Paul actually supporting anyone running AGAINST Mitch. Paul is way better than Rubio, but is quickly following same “irrelevance” path…

riddick on August 14, 2013 at 5:49 PM

No Rand Paul is not. And you already know the answer. They work together on state issues because they were elected in the same state,
Kentucky. It is tough to get cooperation and anything accomplished if one publically comes out
against you. I am sure they have what is called a “gentleman’s agreement”.

Amjean on August 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM

McConnell is a made man in the two party evil money cult that ruins our nation day by day.

Vote him out.

Vote all the RINO’s out.

They must go first.

Then go after the worst of the commie liberal Democrats in state where it is possible.

There are some places on the east and west coast where the commie loon liberals will win no matter what.

But there is more than enough of U.S. in the right places to take this country back from thes greey fools who live off of U.S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 14, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Obligatory complaint about auto-play videos.

Steve Eggleston on August 14, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Mitch there is an old saying “NO GUTS NO GLORY” ever heard it? Mirror,mirror on the wall who is the primaried one to FALL?

tim c on August 14, 2013 at 5:55 PM

McConnell’s desperate to pander to tea partiers in hopes of avoiding a serious primary challenge in Kentucky next year but the thought of a shutdown is simply a bridge too far, even though he’s getting killed for it on sites like Red State.

Hah! Red State. I’ll bet McConnell is just quivering in his boots.

Mr. Arkadin on August 14, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Hey Mitch — if not for Obamacare how about just on general principle?

rrpjr on August 14, 2013 at 5:56 PM

I don’t get it. If it’s already funded, then whats the fuss? Just pass the bill without funding for Obamacare in it – since they argue that new funding isn’t even needed.

Or they’re lying. Which seems more likely.

besser tot als rot on August 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Much of PlaceboCare, including the all-important welfare checks, has been automatically and permanently appropriated by Dingy Harry and Plastic Pelosi. There are, however, certain elements of PlaceboCare, such as its administration, that still must be appropriated annually by Congress.

Steve Eggleston on August 14, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Gawd you suck Mitch.

iwasbornwithit on August 14, 2013 at 5:58 PM

McConnell must play golf with Bob Beckel.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 14, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Then, how about a voter shutdown of McConnell?

beatcanvas on August 14, 2013 at 6:00 PM

If The Turtle is now exempt what does he care?

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 6:01 PM

“I’m for stopping Obamacare, but shutting down the government will not stop Obamacare.”

“The way to stop ObamaCare is to keep making deals with the WH that ensure continued funding for the program in return for increasing the debt limit by $2,000,000,000,000 a year”

Did I get that right, Mitch?

BobMbx on August 14, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Headline: “GOP corpse twitches – still dead”

faraway on August 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Auto-run video

F-

BobMbx on August 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Speaking of HopeyCare:
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Summertime Blues: Polls show ObamaCare support eroding amid roll-out problems
Published August 14, 2013
FoxNews.com
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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/14/summertime-blues-polls-show-obamacare-support-eroding-amid-implementation/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fmost-popular+%28Internal+-+Most+Popular+Content%29#ixzz2bz2tD5LZ

canopfor on August 14, 2013 at 6:05 PM

So, McConnell comes out against “government shutdown” – which isn’t the GOP’s goal. The GOP’s goal is to fund the government without funding Obamacare. If the Democrats shut down the government over Obamacare, the GOP should be able to win that argument (assuming they aren’t idiots – which isn’t a fair assumption at all, I know).

Also, can we stop with the “defunding” nonsense. It’s not “defunding” Obamacare, it’s “not funding” Obamacare. If they’re talking about not providing new funds to Obamacare, they are “not funding” it. And, anyone who votes to “fund” Obamacare is voting for Obamacare.

besser tot als rot on August 14, 2013 at 6:08 PM

********** Shut It Down ***********!!!

canopfor on August 14, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Much of PlaceboCare, including the all-important welfare checks, has been automatically and permanently appropriated by Dingy Harry and Plastic Pelosi. There are, however, certain elements of PlaceboCare, such as its administration, that still must be appropriated annually by Congress.

Steve Eggleston on August 14, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Just pointing out that McConnell’s argument is nonsensical and devoid of logic. If he believes that voting to fund the government, but not Obamacare will have no effect, then why not just do it? Instead of being Chicken Little?

besser tot als rot on August 14, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Well, Mitch, it’s like this… back when Obamacare was wending its way through the Senate, you had a couple of guys who wanted to procedure it to death via reading the bill out at every opportunity, slow walk amendments, go through full procedures without unanimous consent but actually tallying who was there… that sort of stuff.

Someone worked a backroom deal.

You were the head of the Minority at that point in time.

I got some problems with that.

We wouldn’t be having this problem if you had just let the slow walkers take their time and jam up Obamacare until the Senate was responsible for a shutdown because it could get nothing else accomplished. That was a deal that should never have been made. Leadership was lacking.

More specifically, you are lacking.

Lacking in brains.

Lacking in spine.

Lacking in guts.

Lacking in fortitude.

And lacking in common sense – you just want to get things done… not do the right thing. Very Progressive of you.

ajacksonian on August 14, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Folks from Ky have a choice. Bevin?

Bmore on August 14, 2013 at 6:14 PM

BobMbx on August 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Abine. A+

Bmore on August 14, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Folks it isn’t that GOP is stupid or inept or scared, it’s that they are in on the whole damn thing. It’s nothing more than both parties playing good cop bad on the entire country. Elections won’t change a damn thing either.

bgibbs1000 on August 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Reminder for Big gov loving McConnell we are coming for your political —– and we’re hoping some Wacko bird will primary you!!

What a filthy accomplice for Obama!!

PappyD61 on August 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM

My life would actually be better off if this govt shut down and for a long time. Seriously, what difference does it make? OMG I can’t renew my Driver’s license!!! I’m never going to get a Social Security check anyway and I’d love for all the junk mail to stop.

txhsmom on August 14, 2013 at 6:33 PM

The testicle free gop leadership is afraid they will be the next crucifixion by the media (Paula Deen /Zimmerman /the rodeo clown in Missouri)

They are worthless.

PappyD61 on August 14, 2013 at 6:35 PM

McConnell has no interest in doing away from Obamacare.

JR on August 14, 2013 at 6:38 PM

OMG I can’t renew my Driver’s license!!! I’m never going to get a Social Security check anyway and I’d love for all the junk mail to stop.

txhsmom on August 14, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Word has it that asking for a drivers license could be discriminatory. If you get pulled over, just tell them you’re a Dreamer.

Hola!

BobMbx on August 14, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I don’t get it. If it’s already funded, then whats the fuss? Just pass the bill without funding for Obamacare in it – since they argue that new funding isn’t even needed.

Or they’re lying. Which seems more likely.

besser tot als rot on August 14, 2013 at 5:54 PM

it’s complicated but if you go to dontfundit.com and scroll down a little to “download heritage qa” you will understand it better. in short we can defund many costs through discretionary appropriations and block many activities in the process.

email and call your senators and congressmen and tell them you expect them to defund obamacare and that you will be watching them. it’s the only way we can make these dolts stand up and fight for us. by the way the dontfundit.com petition has almost 303,000 votes. i don’t know if they’ll break 1,000,000 in the 47 days left but it would be great to see.

gracie on August 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Okay Kentucky,kick him to the curb!

redware on August 14, 2013 at 6:42 PM

states where the GOP is aiming to pick up Senate seats.

LOL.

The GOP has attacked their base ever since we gave them power in the House in 2011 and they have colluded with Barky and the America-hating dems on just about all of their America killing policies. The GOP is absolutely worthless and isn’t worth supporting as some sort of opposition, since they collude with the America-hating dems.

The GOP is toast. It should just die, already. It serves no useful purpise with its pathetic existence … other being the Vichy who are the dems’ allies. In WWII, the first battle we engaged was with Vichy French in North Africa and the same is, sadly, true in domestically, now.

The GOP was put back in power in 2011 to do two things – repeal BarkyCare and oppose all of Barky’s America-killing idiocy. They have done neither and have preferred to golf and have dog dinners with Barky. Onward to hell, dirtballs.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 14, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Elections won’t change a damn thing either.

bgibbs1000 on August 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM

yes they will and have.

gracie on August 14, 2013 at 6:44 PM

The problem for McConnell and the Republicans is, nothing else is happening either. The Republican Party (and I mean the whole party) has allowed the Democrats to circumvent the constitution. By continually signing CR’s and allowing the Senate not to pass budgets, they have allowed the Democrats and the President to, in effect, initiate spending measures and have taken the House out of the budget equation.

The fact that the stupid party can say, we cut the rate of growth from 10% to 9.5% means nothing in the whole scheme of things. In order to have a say in spending you have to work through the budget process. Signing a CR is not the budget process. Why do they do it? I believe they do it because they like the increased spending levels and are bringing home enough extra pork where they don’t want to rock the boat.

bflat879 on August 14, 2013 at 6:45 PM

He’s arguing that this is futile from the word go, not that it’ll be futile once the GOP inevitably caves after a shutdown.

You must be a hit at all the BBQ’s and picnics.

abobo on August 14, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Elections won’t change a damn thing either.

bgibbs1000 on August 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM

yes they will and have.

gracie on August 14, 2013 at 6:44 PM

30 years ago elections mattered but not any more. Two Bushes with Clinton sandwiched in between proved that.

bgibbs1000 on August 14, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Well crap, I guess the GOP learned the lesson of Newt Gingrich vs. Bill Clinton…oh well……

libfreeordie on August 14, 2013 at 6:55 PM

A politician has the temerity to tell you what you don’t want to hear, so clearly he must be voted out as soon as possible.

It is so difficult when reality intrudes upon ideological fantasy. Here is reality: We have lost this battle. Obamacare will take effect. We lost the battle on several fronts. The Supreme Court shanked us first, but then we lost the 2012 Presidential election and failed to take control of the Senate. You can’t run the Federal government with one half of one third of the branches of government. It. Can’t. Be. Done.

You can delay. You can obstruct. You can win small tactical victories that will shape the field for future battles, but you cannot win major battles, such as defunding the President’s signature domestic accomplishment.

You can hate it. You can think it an abomination and an affront to the Constitution. You can invoke the Founding Fathers until you’re blue in the face.

It. Doesn’t. Matter.

The country decided in 2012 that it wanted to give universal healthcare a spin, despite all of the evidence from other countries that it doesn’t work. Even though poll after poll shows that a majority is dubious of the enterprise, when push came to shove in the voting booths in November of 2012, the majority of your fellow countrymen decided to vote Obama and his confederates back into control of the Presidency and the Senate. Or, in the case of many lower- income and middle- income whites, they didn’t show up to vote at all.

Obamacare won’t work. We know it, but our friends, family members, and neighbors don’t believe us. Fine. The people have spoken (or failed to register their votes) and now they must be punished.

The sooner Obamacare starts, the sooner it will fail. That’s all that’s left now. The majority demands this experiment. It is going to suck. Healthcare will get worse, much worse, before it gets better. It will take at least a generation, maybe two, before the wheel turns back.

And it will turn back. But not before people are made to suffer. Not before they really learn the harsh lessons of the unfeeling hand of math and simple economics.

Obamacare is a losing front at this point for conservatives. There are some tactical battles that can be won, but a full frontal assault with Quixotic tactics like this idiotic defunding proposal will only waste resources and damage our ability to fight other battles.

Forget Obamacare. What happens to the federal court system if the GOP doesn’t regain the Senate in 2014? Imagine Obama with two more Supreme Court appointments that the GOP can’t block. Think of the mischief that could be done then.

You’re tired of “Republicans not fighting to win.” Guess what? For the next election cycle and probably the one after that we are fighting to limit our losses. We are fighting to hold onto what little we have and living to fight another day on better terrain. That’s reality.

Mitch McConnell knows how to use the rules and minority status to it’s best, albeit limited, advantage. Even his detractors admit that. How many times has he managed to hold his caucus together long enough to make Harry Reid look stupid? The guy is master tactician. When tactics are all you have, he’s the guy you want.

And tactics are all we have at the moment. We don’t have the numbers. We don’t have the power. Reality sucks, but the right’s greatest advantage over the left has always been that we acknowledge reality. We’ve done a bad job of selling it to the masses lately, but the last thing we need to do is disavow it and sacrifice everything on some idiotic quest that we’ll never win.

Dukeboy01 on August 14, 2013 at 6:57 PM

“Senator Mitch McConnell admits he supports parts of the Affordable Care Act…”

why is this man the GOP leader in the Senate?

JR on August 14, 2013 at 7:03 PM

yes they will and have.

gracie on August 14, 2013 at 6:44 PM

No. We are well past anything that an election can fix. Far too much irreparable damage has been. America is dead and buried, already. The insane nation we now live in is the American Socialist Superstate. An American Republic cannot be restored. It can only be recreated in a totally new nation.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 14, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Also, can we stop with the “defunding” nonsense. It’s not “defunding” Obamacare, it’s “not funding” Obamacare. If they’re talking about not providing new funds to Obamacare, they are “not funding” it. And, anyone who votes to “fund” Obamacare is voting for Obamacare.

besser tot als rot on August 14, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Here is their petition: http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/

Sign the petition and tell Congress: Don’t Fund Obamacare!

The site has a list of which Senators have signed or not.

McConnell is just talking trash as usual, like the rest of the Demlites.

Mark Levin went off on him too.

bluefox on August 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Mitch is a very little girly boy. He faces what appears to be a liberal plant in Matt Bevins. Breitbart so far has failed to find any decisive evidence as to whether he’s a legit tea party candidate or manchurian butt munch.
After that he faces an sos Soros whore. So Ky looks to be blued, screwed, and/or tattooed. And for that this little girly boy that has relinquished his leadership to McCain should be B!tch Slapped right out of the country.

onomo on August 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

I believe 41 votes are necessary in the Senate to support a filibuster. Last time I checked only 13 Republican Senators (out of 46) are on board with defunding. When only 28% of your own troops are with you and the majority of the Senate, President, Supreme Court and MSM are all against you, this sure looks look a losing battle to me.

As Sun Tzu said -’if the battle can’t be won, don’t fight it.’ Doesn’t mean to give us. When 58% of the people are with you, best tactic is guerrilla warfare. And as for the argument that a passed law becomes an entitlement–Obamacare is already a passed law. Our ONLY hope is to win back the Senate in 2014 (impossible if we look like clowns fighting the impossible fight) and delay, delay, delay through parliamentary procedure.

How about putting all our effort into a fight we can still win-Amnesty. It is not a law yet and it can’t pass without a House which we control (kinda sorta.) Besides–if we lose Amnesty, Obamacare is like rubbing salt in the wounds of a dead man.

Please remember, I’m not against defunding but in order to do that you need 41 people, not 13.

MaiDee on August 14, 2013 at 7:10 PM

bluefox on August 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Hey Bluefox, sorry to everybody else this is way OT, but since I see that you are in here: Did you catch this piece on Redstate? As we speculated last week, Erickson is calling Mace’s involvement with Will Folks a dealbreaker.

Now hopefully, he’ll follow up by getting some positive support going for one of the other options, so we can get rid of Graham.

Gingotts on August 14, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Mitch, you’re a seriously addled person. Get help. Dementia is nothing to fool with.

This guy is part of the problem with out government.

dogsoldier on August 14, 2013 at 7:22 PM

30 years ago elections mattered but not any more. Two Bushes with Clinton sandwiched in between proved that.

bgibbs1000 on August 14, 2013 at 6:53 PM

well then let’s stop any more bush’s and clintons from being elected. that’ll help.

gracie on August 14, 2013 at 7:33 PM

bluefox on August 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Hey Bluefox, sorry to everybody else this is way OT, but since I see that you are in here: Did you catch this piece on Redstate? As we speculated last week, Erickson is calling Mace’s involvement with Will Folks a dealbreaker.

Now hopefully, he’ll follow up by getting some positive support going for one of the other options, so we can get rid of Graham.

Gingotts on August 14, 2013 at 7:20 PM

No, I didn’t. I will tho now, thanks!! State Senator Lee Bright has announced his run against Graham. Beck interviewed him (2nd time) this morning and the video & transcript is on Glenn’s site. It was a great interview.

On Mace, did you see this today?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/13/Exclusive-National-Tea-Party-group-to-endorse-Nancy-Mace-against-Lindsey-Graham

In one of the comments a bit of info sent me off on a 2 hr research into this “National Tea Party Group” Oh, brother! What I’ve found goes back to 2010. Can’t go into all of it here, maybe on QOTD tonight.

bluefox on August 14, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Gingotts on August 14, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Erickson is right on; awesome!!

bluefox on August 14, 2013 at 7:43 PM

This is weird, I don’t recall anyone asking for the government to be shut down? Does that have to happen to defund Obamacare? I swear the media is leading these guys around by their nose, or something.

Cindy Munford on August 14, 2013 at 7:51 PM

There’s something McConnel has been hiding, methinks.

And it’s surely not a dead girl.

sartana on August 14, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Cindy Munford on August 14, 2013 at 7:51 PM

I think it’s their scary tactic:-) Mike Lee & Cruz both have said they would pass the CR & complete funding except funding for Obamacare.

McConnell & other R Senators/House members and all that support Obamacare are using the “scare” tactic and saying the R’s want to shut down the government. Oh, & especially their leader Rove!!

Levin said that Fox News should change their name to Rove News, LOL

bluefox on August 14, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Teh evil Karl Rove explained how pointless this was because of the fact the amount of discretionary dollars not already allocated is peanuts, but for some mysterious reason there has not been a good faith debate about this. I see a lot of grandstanding from prez wannabe’s like Cruz, Rubio, and Paul but very little reasonable/realistic discussion of what actually can be “defunded”, and at what cost.

Buy Danish on August 14, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Paul, Cruz, Team.

Bmore on August 14, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Reminder from Mitch McConnell to tea partiers: A government shutdown over ObamaCare isn’t happening

Why should Mr. Chao do anything now when he decided 3 years ago that breaking for the Christmas Holiday was more important than fighting passage of obamacare?…

Gohawgs on August 14, 2013 at 9:27 PM

We’ll get rid of it later, promise!

AshleyTKing on August 14, 2013 at 9:28 PM

uh … Rand – this is embarassing from ‘your guy Mitch’

really ….. the Base led by the Fighting Cruz and Lee are working their tails off to stop the funding for the hated Obamacare BULLSCHMIDT, and your guy Mitch, with very little chin, is being a mealy-mouthed EUNUCH

look at this from Gowdy today:

GOWDY: Obamacare passed w/o a single Republican vote; let’s see if Dems can fund it w/o a single Republican vote http://fw.to/UMnEC0L

Dump your deal with the GOPe McConnell Rand,
forget about 2016,
get down in the Obamacare Trenches

and FIGHT WITH CRUZ and LEE

exodus2011 on August 14, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Frackin’ auto-start ads…

Gohawgs on August 14, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Shutdown the Gov’t over obamacare? Why wouldn’t the Spelunker of the House just not include funding for obamacare in his LATEST CR and tell Reid that funding will not be put in during Conference? It would be Reid and the dems in the Senate that then shut down the Gov’t if they demanded funding and Boehner refused to cave…

Gohawgs on August 14, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Oh wait, maybe — like Rubio said — the obamanation would just issue and EO and fund obamacare himself…

Gohawgs on August 14, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Teh evil Karl Rove explained how pointless this was because of the fact the amount of discretionary dollars not already allocated is peanuts, but for some mysterious reason there has not been a good faith debate about this. I see a lot of grandstanding from prez wannabe’s like Cruz, Rubio, and Paul but very little reasonable/realistic discussion of what actually can be “defunded”, and at what cost.

Buy Danish on August 14, 2013 at 8:08 PM

go to dontfundit.com and download heritge Q&A and fact sheet. there is much we can do by defunding it.

gracie on August 14, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Shutdown the Gov’t over obamacare? Why wouldn’t the Spelunker of the House just not include funding for obamacare in his LATEST CR and tell Reid that funding will not be put in during Conference? It would be Reid and the dems in the Senate that then shut down the Gov’t if they demanded funding and Boehner refused to cave…

Gohawgs on August 14, 2013 at 9:50 PM

yah, that’s what we and cruz are talking about.

gracie on August 14, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Reminder from Mitch McConnell to tea partiers: A government shutdown over ObamaCare isn’t happening

A reminder to Mitch, If Republicans can’t de-fund ObamaCare without the need of a single Democrat vote, I’ll be staying home on election night 2014.

Karl Rove, the liberal NE establishment mouthpiece was on Hannity’s radio show the other day. He assured everyone that they all hate ObamaCare and very badly want to stop it. Interestingly, Karl was very defensive on more than one occasion during his piece, it was obvious that they are taking a lot of heat on this.

The liberal NE establishment’s solution? Easy – Elect a Republican President and Senate or fight and win in the courts.

The hard part: Those same liberal NE establishment types will be working very hard to make the likes of Chris Christie President. I’m much less than confident that Christie would sign a repeal bill in 2016. Also, to stop a filibuster we’d need a super majority in the Senate and with our rinos in the Senate we’d need about 70 Senate seats in the Senate.

Republicans controlling the White House, a good majority in the House and 70 seats in the Senate will happen several billion years from now just after our dying Sun engulfs and incinerates the Earth.

As for the court fights, get real, the Chief Traitor Benedict Roberts already legislated from the bench rewriting ObamaCare’s penalty into a tax, another bit of legislating from the bench will be no problem for Benedict Roberts.

In short, our illustrious Republican leadership’s plan to fight ObamaCare is, instead of actually stopping it by de-funding it, they are going to wait an eternity for a scenario that will never happen.

No Thanks! If that is the best that they can do, they are useless and need wholesale replacement.

RJL on August 14, 2013 at 10:11 PM

A shutdown would be a brilliant exercise by the Republicans — for they would force Obama to signal exactly where he thinks Government should be defunded.

They would have ammunition for those places where they and Mr. Obama agree on defunding — so that they would have plenty of fingers to point back when the pointing started.

The majority of Americans do not want Obamacare. We already have a well-funded healthcare system, one which takes care of the majority of Americans — even those without insurance and without the ability to pay. The rationing inherent in the existing system prevents abuse like that outlined in the book “Free for All?”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAND_Health_Insurance_Experiment

unclesmrgol on August 14, 2013 at 10:30 PM

In short, our illustrious Republican leadership’s plan to fight ObamaCare is, instead of actually stopping it by de-funding it, they are going to wait an eternity for a scenario that will never happen.

Why do you assume they can defund it?

People keep saying that they don’t want to shut down the rest of the government — just Obamacare. But in reality, what will happen is the exact opposite. The rest of the government will be shut down, but Obamacare will continue to be funded. The subsidies in the bill (200 billion/year) were already funded by the original bill, and they will continue to be until a bill passes both houses and is signed by the President. There is nothing that can be done about that from controlling the House alone.

If Democrats were willing to lose 60 seats to pass the bill in the first place, why in the world wouldn’t they be willing let Republicans get all the blame for a shutdown?

jd3181 on August 14, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Why do you assume they can defund it?

People keep saying that they don’t want to shut down the rest of the government — just Obamacare. But in reality, what will happen is the exact opposite. The rest of the government will be shut down, but Obamacare will continue to be funded. The subsidies in the bill (200 billion/year) were already funded by the original bill, and they will continue to be until a bill passes both houses and is signed by the President. There is nothing that can be done about that from controlling the House alone.

If Democrats were willing to lose 60 seats to pass the bill in the first place, why in the world wouldn’t they be willing let Republicans get all the blame for a shutdown?

jd3181 on August 14, 2013 at 10:33 PM

De-funding ObamaCare is not ideal but it’s the only hope left and it is very doable, If the Republicans can keep their caucus in line as the Democrats routinely do, not a single Democrat vote is needed.

The House sends a bill to the Senate funding the whole government with a single sentence saying that not one penny is authorized for ObamaCare. No Congress is binding on another Congress, so previous funding plans are immaterial. If Harry Reid won’t or can’t pass it or if Obama vetoes it, they will be the ones shutting down the government.

Granted, the Republicans will have to do a bit of selling. ObamaCare is failing on all fronts.

Obama has granted hundreds or thousands of waivers to his buddies – Failure!

Obama has unilaterally and illegally postponed parts of ObamaCare until after the 2014 elections – Failure!

Obama has made special ObamaCare rules and exemptions for Congress and Congressional staffers – Failure! If Republicans can’t start a fire with that one they are truly useless.

Obama has or is in the process of delaying (no doubt also illegallly again) another piece of ObamaCare – Failure!

The Republicans would simply be declining to fund a program that is demanding to be de-funded.

RJL on August 14, 2013 at 11:15 PM

McConnell is a gutless t@rd of a self-serving career politician, & he is broadcasting a warning to Americans that he & Boehner will be caving on the issue. A ‘govt shut down does not mean social program checks don’t go out – Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, Unemployment, Social Security – all that continues to go out…the interest on our debt is paid…our self-/party-serving career politicians, however, are more worried about the fact that THEY will be furloughed for a change….and they are afraid we may learn the nation runs better without them.

easyt65 on August 14, 2013 at 11:29 PM

The House sends a bill to the Senate funding the whole government with a single sentence saying that not one penny is authorized for ObamaCare.

I don’t think you understand how this works. Not one penny needs to be authorized for ObamaCare, because the money was already authorized and appropriated (just like the funding for Medicare and Social Security). In fact, if no bill passes Congress at all, from now until the midterm elections, ObamaCare will still be fully funded at the tune of 200 billion/year. A bill would have to pass that repeals the money already authorized and appropriated.

When you say that one Congress can’t bind another Congress, no one is arguing otherwise. If this Congress can get enough Democratic votes to pass a bill that repeals money already authorized and appropriated, then such authorization and appropriations would be repealed. But when you say that Republicans can do this without a single Democratic vote, that is factually inaccurate. No Democratic votes? Then no funding repeal.

jd3181 on August 14, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Well isn’t that special?!

McConnell you are a worthless POS.

SmallGovtGuy on August 15, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Is anybody surprised? Those weenies in Washington can’t even defund Big Bird! Wussies!

racquetballer on August 15, 2013 at 2:12 AM

The one unifying principle in the Democrat Party is to stop liberty.

racquetballer on August 15, 2013 at 2:17 AM

There’s no way the GOP is going to take the Senate

Let’s hope they lose the House too

No courage

The GOP will betray you

True_King on August 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM

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