MSNBC: Maybe the Tsarnaevs were really far right anti-government terrorists

posted at 4:01 pm on August 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Greg Hengler and Noah Rothman, both of whom identify this as MSNBC’s attempt to gin up content to fill a slow summer news day. That’s correct. That’s how casual the smear is: They needed something to eat up airtime, so they decided to invite one of the professional “brown scare” peddlers from the SPLC on to theorize that the rationale given by Dzhokhar Tsarnaev himself maybe wasn’t the real motive. Dzhokhar allegedly said the bombings were payback for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. President Precious bears partial responsibility for those, especially the latter, so naturally MSNBC needs an alternate explanation. Who better to serve as scapegoat than “anti-government” forces? (Alex Wagner refers to the “far right” and the “fringe,” but the point of segments like this — always, always — is to indict mainstream conservatives by association for their own opposition to big government.) “The bombing suspects may not have been the radical jihadists they were initially believed to be,” says Wagner darkly, which is the cherry on top of this sundae. In a segment aimed at the sinister rise of conspiracy theories in today’s political culture, MSNBC’s essentially floating its own conspiracy theory. It wasn’t really a jihadist reaction to U.S. foreign policy that drove the Tsarnaevs, Dzhokhar’s confession notwithstanding. It was the rise of “radical libertarianism.” There is indeed a lot of paranoia in modern America, but here’s further evidence that it ain’t all on the right.

And to think, not two weeks ago, I gave the left credit for being a bit more circumspect about smears like this than used to be. Enough blather from me, though. What you should be reading instead of this post is Mark Hemingway’s chronicle in the new Weekly Standard of how the SPLC — the same group represented here as experts on hate and incitement — helped put the Family Research Council in the crosshairs of a violent nut motivated by political animosity. The SPLC placed the FRC on its, ahem, “hate map,” and Floyd Lee Corkins noticed it and decided to punish the “hateful.” No one expects MSNBC to make an issue of that the way the left crapped its pants about phantom right-wing motivations in the Tucson shooting, but you’d think Wagner would at least find it disqualifying when choosing an “expert” to come on and demagogue the right for the entertainment of the network’s audience. Repulsive. Exit question: How much is Michael Steele getting paid to play along with this? I sure hope it’s a lot.

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“The older one should not be dead and the younger one is still in prison, sadly” — MSNBC

Water is still mostly wet and the sky appears blue. The latter is just an illusion.

Schadenfreude on August 14, 2013 at 4:02 PM

It’s to the point were all you can do is laugh at MSNBC.

brewcrew67 on August 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

It was the rise of “radical libertarianism.”

Behold the rise of the TrutherTwos.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 4:05 PM

It’s to the point were all you can do is laugh at MSNBC.

brewcrew67 on August 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Here’s another laugh for you:

Pics of the Day: MSNBC’s Geography Fail

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

“The bombing suspects may not have been the radical jihadists they were initially believed to be…”

Because, INITIALLY, this is what the Left claimed…

Esquire Magazine Fucks Up History In An Attempt To Smear A ‘Patriot’

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

“The bombing suspects may not have been the radical jihadists they were initially believed to be…”

Because, INITIALLY, this is what the Left claimed…

Esquire Magazine Fvcks Up History In An Attempt To Smear A ‘Patriot’

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Every modern day “domestic terrorist” is by MSNBC’s definition a conservative. Name one who wasn’t, no matter their avowed love for the President, for Marxism, or for Occupy.

MTF on August 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

It’s funny until you recall that history is made by those who write it down.

jdpaz on August 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

At this point, Hot Air should simply stop posting about anything that airs on MSNBC, as the channel has clearly shown that it is no longer a news agency. Nothing that airs on the channel deserves any additional exposure, so ignoring MSNBC is perhaps the best option (it has worked for me for several years).

diditagain on August 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

MSNBC: Maybe the Tsarnaevs were really far right anti-government terrorists

And thus the Big Lie begins…..

Galt2009 on August 14, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Christie Won’t Help Cory Booker’s GOP Opponent In Senate Campaign Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Lonegan was on the radio last week saying Gov. Chrispee Kreeme promised he would.

But then I thought to myself, “Hmmm… but you’re a conservative… why would Gov. Chrispee Kreeme want to help you…?”

I guess it’s because Lonegan is blind. Can’t have anything to do with his politics. Gov. Chrispee Kreeme is blindophobic.

Akzed on August 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM

SPLC more communist propaganda than pravda in the 70′s.The idiots who support these people should be institutionalized in Siberia.

tim c on August 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Cuckoo’s Nest.

fogw on August 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM

These people are in full pants-pooping mode because the tide is slowly turning against their sweet sweet liberal agenda and their idiot-in-chief. They should really just air these “news” programs in place of SNL. Much funnier material.

Plus, that guy looks like a real-life caricature of George Lucas.

somewhatconcerned on August 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Back to the original Operatin Urban Shield script, lol. Potok’s mouth looks like a c*ck holster.

abobo on August 14, 2013 at 4:16 PM

I don’t care how good looking a female is; stupid levels the playing field for all.

Jabberwock on August 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM

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canopfor on August 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM

The SPLC is an evil hategroup that shields their money in the Caribbean.

Like was pointed out in the post they have already inspired several violent attacks on groups they don’t like.

tetriskid on August 14, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I don’t care how good looking a female is; stupid levels the playing field for all.

Jabberwock on August 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Stupid contributes an ugliness all its own.

slickwillie2001 on August 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM

msnbc is the air America of television…

crosshugger on August 14, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Maybe they were homosexual Martian Zombies from Antarctica.

My assertion has as much credibility, evidence and background as the morons at MSNBC, so my assertion is just as valid and accurate.

cat-scratch on August 14, 2013 at 4:25 PM

What a bunch of maroons

cmsinaz on August 14, 2013 at 4:25 PM

MSNBC: Maybe the Tsarnaevs were really far right anti-government terrorists
===============

MS..LSD have some serious issue problems.

Its as if,all LibTard’s heard HilRods….

…….”Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Cabal”,
and its been engrained/enshirned,or
Laser imprinted into the ProgTard
Collective Minds!!

canopfor on August 14, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Is this Saturday Night Live or MSNBC? Is there a difference at this point?

Conservative in NOVA on August 14, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I love the caption in the screenshot:

“Dangerous Minds”

Ellis on August 14, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Reportedly the Tsarnaevs had become rodeo clowns in Chechnya shortly before they went bad.

News at ten.

/S

(What Barky’s news-whores at MSLSD wouldn’t try.)

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 4:28 PM

The bombing MSNBC suspects may not have been the radical jihadists unbiased journolists they were initially believed to be circa 1996.”

FIFY.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 14, 2013 at 4:29 PM

o/t

Christie Won’t Help Cory Booker’s GOP Opponent In Senate Campaign

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

“His primary strategy is to keep pushing this image of the only guy who can win a blue state and therefore can win the White House.”

Why in the heck would I vote for any person a dem would vote for?

Vince on August 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM

MSNBC … is this the clown thread, finally? Where’s the pic of Barky being chased down by a bull?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 14, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Maybe the Tsarnaevs were really far right anti-government terrorists

Maybe God hates poor people?
Maybe motherhood is a plot against abortionists?
Maybe responisble hard-working people are just practicing we’re superior racism?
Maybe students who achievea are closet racists?
Maybe people in jail are the real American heroes?
Maybe anarchists and jihadists deserve amnesty and waivers for crimes?
Maybe we deserved 9-11 for electing Bush?

Maybe, maybe, maybe, such transparent questions that are designed to push an Anti-America agenda are written by people who hate America?

Don L on August 14, 2013 at 4:35 PM

I wonder if MSNBC is actually part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, designed to make the Left look absolutely foolish.

rbj on August 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM

The SPLC !!
Southern Poverty Law Criminals

J_Crater on August 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Morons Showing Nothing But Crap

docflash on August 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Perhaps Rachel Maddow is a man pretending to be a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be Bigfoot.

J_Crater on August 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

“Hab SoSlI’ Quch” is Klingon for “Your mother has a smooth forehead”.

(beware!: this is a powerful insult; don’t say it to friends.)

this is the strongest of all insults and is not to be treated as a joke!!!

J_Crater on August 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM

J_Crater on August 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

The Audacity of Moochelle ?

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 4:50 PM

The guy in the photo under the front page headline looks constipated. Of course, that is the normal expression for the joyless Democrat statists that would run our lives for us.

Mallard T. Drake on August 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

The Audacity of Moochelle ?

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 4:50 PM

The Tears of a Clown Beard.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

I don’t know which is the bigger joke – MSLCD or the hate group SPLC. Both are kooks to the nth degree.

I think Potok received way too many swirlies when he was the hall monitor.

Sporty1946 on August 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

And to think, not two weeks ago, I gave the left credit for being a bit more circumspect about smears like this than used to be.

Terrible habit to maintain, AllahP. You might consider another outlook.

chimney sweep on August 14, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Well, gee, maybe after all it was workplace violence.

Chessplayer on August 14, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Were they Registered Republicans?

Another Drew on August 14, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Weird because the liberal Obama is funding Al Quaeda in Syria. But just the good eggs I’m sure.

iwasbornwithit on August 14, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

I’m still laughing over this.

Ever hear of Google maps?

Dummies.

Total fail.

PatriotGal2257 on August 14, 2013 at 5:05 PM

SPLC is a hate group..! and MSNBC supports them.

d1carter on August 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM

MSNBC: Maybe the Tsarnaevs were really far right anti-government terrorists

And maybe we gave a person their own show, and billed
it as the Rachel Maddow show, when really Rachel is
a MAN BABY!!

And maybe we gave a person their own show, and billed
it as Chris Hayes, but really Chris is a hermaphodite.

ToddPA on August 14, 2013 at 5:12 PM

There is indeed a lot of paranoia in modern America, but here’s further evidence that it ain’t all on the right.

Actually, socialists are among the most paranoid people on the planet. They see capitalists exploiting, and conspiring to exploit, the workers middle and lower class “folks” everywhere they look. It has been that way for about 150 years.

Socialists are even paranoid about other socialists. See Stalin for the most obvious example. Socialists in power see counterrevolutionaries everywhere.

The left in the US is paranoid about the Tea Party. To the extent they have the IRS targeting groups that might be associated with the Tea Party.

farsighted on August 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Lady!

You are just jealous of ALyT and want to be banned for a bit.

cozmo on August 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM

OT: Oh! Reggie..!

d1carter on August 14, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Those Chechen tea Party types are cream puffs compared to the home grown models./////////

MSNBC; the stupid is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

antipc on August 14, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Can anyone smell the reeking odor of desperation in the air?

If this is the best they’ve got……??? Holy Quacamole!

Desperation is the emotional state of despair in which a person feels a situation to be hopeless and without satisfactory options. Decisions made in desperation may be more rash, impulsive, and inappropriate than those made in a rational frame of mind.

Desperation may also refer to:

Panic

avagreen on August 14, 2013 at 5:23 PM

The irony of this MSNBC chick deriding Alex Jones as a conspiracy nut when she’s spewing this gibberish is rich. Liberals are so far gone at this point that they have no concept of how they come across anymore.

WhatSlushfund on August 14, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Lady!

You are just jealous of ALyT and want to be banned for a bit.

cozmo on August 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM

HOLY SHIT! How did that even get through?!?!?!

I copied my headline and pasted it here. I hit submit and then realised that I forgot to change the spelling. I figured it didn’t get through, which it hasn’t in the past when I made the mistake. I then reposted it with the spelling change.

I’m soooo sorry.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 5:29 PM

I’m soooo sorry.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Then why did you do it again?

Must be nice to be a lady limey Hawaiian lawyer.

Y’all get away with all kinds of stuff.

You got nasty pictures of AP don’tcha.

cozmo on August 14, 2013 at 5:34 PM

MSNBC: Maybe the Tsarnaevs were really far right anti-government terrorists

Yeah, because it’s well known that anti-government folks really hate… the Boston Marathon, or something, right? I mean, I remember seeing all those anti-Boston-Marathon signs at the tea party rallies, don’t you? And just the other day, Ted Cruz went nuts about some local Texas marathon, deriding the pervasiveness o those government… marathons and such. //

And to think, not two weeks ago, I gave the left credit for being a bit more circumspect about smears like this than used to be.

That’ll school ya, perhaps – wtf were you thinking?

But I supposed with a bit of time, you’ll mistakenly do so again, eh?

Midas on August 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM

SPLC more communist propaganda than pravda in the 70′s. The idiots who support these people should be institutionalized in Siberia.

tim c on August 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Wrong verb.

Midas on August 14, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Should have never watched the video, just ruined a perfectly good day.

DDay on August 14, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Hey, my spell-check corrects profanity, too.

That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM

I forgive you RWM. G-d only knows what I want to write at times.

DDay on August 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Via Greg Hengler and Noah Rothman, both of whom identify this as MSNBC’s attempt to gin up content to fill a slow summer news day. That’s correct.

Allah:

Gotta ask. Do HA moderators do the same thing? Granted these dry days has yet to gin up a slew of attacks on faith. But why wasn’t the special flight by the Air Force to deliver Bo to Martha’s Vineyard not a bigger deal? The fact Switzerland is bending over backwards to prove it does not hate angry fat black media mogels. Rodeo clowns.

I salute your discretion with so much available material.

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I’m soooo sorry.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Okay, so let me get this straight. We can’t reference a certain furry Star Wars character to the first lady and you got the “f” word through?

What does it take to get into the HA VIP lounge? ;0

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2013 at 5:52 PM

But why wasn’t the special flight by the Air Force to deliver Bo to Martha’s Vineyard not a bigger deal?

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Actually that was covered in a front page Hot Gas thread Tuesday morning.

Del Dolemonte on August 14, 2013 at 5:53 PM

cozmo on August 14, 2013 at 5:34 PM

‘SHIT’ has never been a banned word on HA for as long as I’ve been here and is used routinely by many. The F-word spelled out is and I didn’t mean to use it.

Now, go put some pants on.

I forgive you RWM. G-d only knows what I want to write at times.

DDay on August 14, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Thanks. I honestly didn’t mean for it to post.

Hey, my spell-check corrects profanity, too.

That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM

I’ve posted that link on HA several times and have always changed it. For example:

Esquire Magazine Fvcks Up History In An Attempt To Smear A ‘Patriot’

Resist We Much on April 15, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Esquire Magazine Fvcks Up History In An Attempt To Smear A ‘Patriot’

Resist We Much on April 15, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 5:57 PM

What does it take to get into the HA VIP lounge? ;0

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2013 at 5:52 PM

LOL. I have no idea how it got through. It wasn’t supposed to. I just forgot to change the spelling before I hit submit. I didn’t even know the original got through until cozmo brought my attention to it.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 5:58 PM

I get it, if there is no story, just drag a hate monger on the show and make one up!

scalleywag on August 14, 2013 at 6:01 PM

What exactly does the SPLC do, besides spread hate and conspiracy theories?

scalleywag on August 14, 2013 at 6:02 PM

What does it take to get into the HA VIP lounge? ;0

Happy Nomad on August 14, 2013 at 5:52 PM

BTW, don’t let Sparky see that. He already thinks that I am Malkin’s puppetmaster. lol

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM

MSNBC: Maybe the Tsarnaevs were really far right anti-government terrorists

But why target innocent marathoners, rather than some symbol of government?

Do these people even stop to think that they may sound idiotic?

MichaelGabriel on August 14, 2013 at 6:07 PM

I’m soooo sorry.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Uncle Albert?

jaime on August 14, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Uncle Albert?

jaime on August 14, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Snicker.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Did I imagine it or was there a Saudi National who made several visits to Obama who just happened to catch some shrapnel from the marathon bomb and was tackled while running away?

Did I imagine it or was there another couple of Saudis carrying large backpacks who were in the exact spot where the bombs went off minutes prior to the Tsarnaevs walking up and placing their backpacks/bombs at the exact spot?

Strange coincidences. I guess security wasn’t too interested in two very Arab looking guys in that area with large backpacks so they certainly wouldn’t be interested in two white guys with backpacks at that precise spot.

Even if you are afraid to admit that these Saudis were accomplices, you should be able to get your toes wet and consider that the Tsarnaevs chose that spot because they saw two totally innocent Arabs with backpacks right there and reasoned that if security wasn’t checking those guys out, they wouldn’t check them out either, so they chose that spot.

Buddahpundit on August 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Now, go put some pants on.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 5:57 PM

M
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K
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M
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cozmo on August 14, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Sounds like Mike Steele has certainly sold out. What a change from his speech at the Republican national convention several years ago. He fits right in with MSNBC now.

paul1149 on August 14, 2013 at 6:27 PM

M
A
K
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M
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cozmo on August 14, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Man, Who Likes To Dress Up As Dog, Arrested For Having Sex With Cat

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM

You win.

Now I have to figure out how to cleanse that story from my mind.

You little mynx you.

cozmo on August 14, 2013 at 6:30 PM

What IS Steele doing in there? A “radical libertarian agenda” coupled with a “southern racist neo-confederacy”? First, what is a “radical” libertarian agenda? This is code speech for anarchist…anarchists who almost always line up to fight with the lefties. I am astounded at the pseudo-intellectual posing of these people. Is it any wonder that there are very few who watch them?

The point that really pisses me off is that they sell one nutcase (maybe a few more) with a sign saying “47% Negro” as being part of the mainstream conservative attitude towards Obama. Reid does it in hoping that we have a substantive basis for our disagreement with the President’s agenda rather than having our disagreement based in our disapproval of his skin color.

Conservatives are being railroaded into racist label country and many of my liberal friends eat it up…without any critical thinking to parse the accusations.

allstonian on August 14, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Man, Who Likes To Dress Up As Dog, Arrested For Having Sex With Cat

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM

I’ll bet he has the scratches to prove it.

viking01 on August 14, 2013 at 6:33 PM

cozmo on August 14, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Better put those pants on or a ‘furry’ might come up behind you!

Yeppers, viking.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 6:37 PM

If they were “far-right”, why would they bomb a marathon instead of MSNBC or some other leftist building/event? I mean, there isn’t much question in my mind that the guy in Norway was a far-right terrorist. Being on the right myself doesn’t make me feel the urge to obscure that event.

I think when the left does this, it’s more of a projection than a pure lie. They see what they have gotten away with in the US and they can’t believe that normal Americans are just sitting still and letting them destroy the country. So when something does happen, like a bombing, they immediately think “There it is! I knew they wouldn’t sit on their hands forever!”.

Buddahpundit on August 14, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Rolling Stone magazine must be so embarrassed.

2Tru2Tru on August 14, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Man, Who Likes To Dress Up As Dog, Arrested For Having Sex With Cat

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Then again, ‘he’ may have been a Sirius Cybernetics product;

Share and Enjoy
Share and Enjoy
Journey through life
With a plastic boy
Or Girl by your side
Let your pal be your guide
And when it breaks down
Or starts to annoy
Or grinds when it moves
And gives you no joy
Cos it’s eaten your hat
Or had sex with your cat
Bled oil on your floor
Or ripped off your door
You get to the point
You can’t stand any more
Bring it to us, we won’t give a fig
We’ll tell you, ‘Go stick your head in a pig’.

Speaking of which, why are all the links lime green instead of blue all of a sudden?

MARRRVVVIINNN!!!!!

cheers

eon

eon on August 14, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Never mind, they’re back to normal now.

For a second there, I thought reality had gone on the blink again.

cheers

eon

eon on August 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Totally despicable.. They were jihad terrorists pure and simple.

jaywemm on August 14, 2013 at 7:19 PM

REM, what’s happened to you?
Has someone kidnapped your website and your ID here?

Doesn’t even sound like you.

Kinduv feel sad about all this.

avagreen on August 14, 2013 at 7:29 PM

As an animal rescuer and having become involved in local horse rescues,I find animal cruelty hard to understand/comprehend.
It doesn’t need promotion.

avagreen on August 14, 2013 at 7:32 PM

avagreen on August 14, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Who’s promoting animal cruelty? Not I. Sometimes, I cover strange sex stories and the whackjobs involved in them. I want this guy’s name and face to be widely known so that he will be known to all as the degenerate that he is.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Is that the son of George Lucas?

PappyD61 on August 14, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 7:52 PM

I guess the tone of regret intermingled with all the posts was something I missed in the posts on this subject and the jokes that followed.

avagreen on August 14, 2013 at 8:57 PM

avagreen on August 14, 2013 at 8:57 PM

If you’ve read my blog when I post weird sex stories, you should know that I am not promoting their behaviour. I am mocking them.

Resist We Much on August 14, 2013 at 10:19 PM

SFB.

S–t For Brains.

profitsbeard on August 15, 2013 at 2:00 AM