Sebelius: These uncooperative red states are really making ObamaCare’s implementation “doubly difficult,” you know

posted at 9:11 pm on August 13, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Correct me if I’m wrong here, but the Patient “Protection” and “Affordable” Care Act does say that states could decline to take up ObamaCare’s administrative burdens if they so chose, and that the federal government would then step in and handle it for them, right? Are they just mad that states didn’t fall in line according to their wildly optimistic calculations, or did the Obama administration suddenly decide to arbitrarily and unilaterally change that rule, too? Via Bloomberg:

Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of Health & Human Services, said the Affordable Care Act will succeed in states run by Democrats who have embraced the law. In states such as Georgia where the governor and legislature are in Republican hands, “the job is made doubly difficult,” Sebelius said in an interview today during a visit to Atlanta to meet with supporters of the law. …

The comment further drives a wedge between the Obama administration and Republicans who have opposed the 2010 health-care system overhaul and continue to undermine next year’s core implementation. Republicans in Indiana, Ohio, Georgia and Florida have said people who buy insurance for themselves face huge premium increases — as much as triple in Georgia, the state’s insurance commissioner, Ralph Hudgens, said on July 30.

“We know that there will be states where things will go very well because the states are all in,” Sebelius said. For residents in other states, “getting correct facts to them, drilling down through the misinformation, is going to be more complicated. That’s where a lot of my time and effort is going to be spent, on the markets that are really federal markets.”

Drilling through the “misinformation”? Er… really? Is that really the turn of the screw upon which the fate of ObamaCare depends? It couldn’t be that ObamaCare consistently resembles — oh, I don’t know — an overly ambitious, fundamentally flawed, economically harmful, and generally poorly planned raging monster of a legislative package tripping over its own shortcomings, could it?

And is it just me, or is that kind of a bold-faced thing to say a matter of hours after the administration announced that they were arbitrarily delaying the caps on out-of-pocket costs for consumers that are kind of a major component in that whole “affordable” part of the ACA? There have been plenty of problems coming out of enthusiastic blue states about getting insurance companies to comply with the arbitrarily determined caps, but never mind — it’s always going to be those stubborn red states’ fault, natch.


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I hate that B!tch.

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:15 PM

And I will continue to resist until someone stops me…

Electrongod on August 13, 2013 at 9:18 PM

The Lizard King is not amused by your sense of liberty…….. Yes, I called her Lizard King……… I mean, look at her!

ThePrez on August 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Rot in Hell you tyrants.

Gingotts on August 13, 2013 at 9:21 PM

I hate that B!tch.

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:15 PM

B!tchs everywhere are offended by her.

trigon on August 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Suck someone else, vampire.

Axe on August 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Scroom you, Nurse Ratched.

And this sow too.

Rot

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Hag Nazi. She would have fit right in on Himmler’s staff

Bishop on August 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Why can’t Dear Leader just waive his magic wand and fix this thing..?

d1carter on August 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM

It’s a tradition that major legislation should have bi-partisan support. Like Medicare did at the time. Or else the dominant party doesn’t force the issue. Well the Dems certainly forced the issue this time. Now we have a fractured country. The Dems were shameless.

anotherJoe on August 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Sebelius: These uncooperative red states are really making ObamaCare’s implementation “doubly difficult,” you know

It’s nice to know, thank you.

rickv404 on August 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM

the markets that are really federal markets

Let that sink in.

wolly4321 on August 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Go Scr*w yourself, Sebelius!
Signed,Texas.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Authoritarian ruling is hard.

wolly4321 on August 13, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Is “doubly difficult” better or worse than “triply expensive?”

Odie1941 on August 13, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Get em Erika
Maybe the pubs could gather the dossiers of all the players in this Admin before the 2014 mids.

seesalrun2 on August 13, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Go Scr*w yourself, Sebelius!
Signed,Texas.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Can I include Idaho on the bottom line ?

Electrongod on August 13, 2013 at 9:30 PM

I’d be proud if I was from Kansas and voted this thing in to lead the state.

Really doesn’t really say much for the whole state.

acyl72 on August 13, 2013 at 9:30 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on August 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Mind if I add my signature?

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

As they say in Mauritius, “scarfpooie finmemsab”.

Mason on August 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

We must abandon the prevalent belief in the superior wisdom of the ignorant.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on August 13, 2013 at 9:32 PM

I can hear it already…when ObamaCare fails, epically, guess who’s going to get the blame…those “red states” run by Rethuglicans. If only they capitulated, socialized medicine would have worked out perfectly.

JetBoy on August 13, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Sebelius was a shrewish, angry, partisan liberal hack before she joined Team Transformation, and she remains so today.

No one with an ounce of fairness or common sense should listen to or follow one word from her crooked mouth.

Sacramento on August 13, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Sebelius: These uncooperative red states are really making ObamaCare’s implementation “doubly difficult,” you know

…well…we know her folks don’t want ANY States Rights!

KOOLAID2 on August 13, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Their dossiers are to include all published works.
That could become a little funky.

seesalrun2 on August 13, 2013 at 9:34 PM

So it’s been our fault all along? I feel so…guilty/////////////////

predator on August 13, 2013 at 9:35 PM

SWEET! Keep up the good work, guys!

Pork-Chop on August 13, 2013 at 9:35 PM

I wish I was in one of those uncooperative red states.
Colorado has gone to the dark side….

dentarthurdent on August 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Does anyone know the status of OK’s lawsuit against the IRS? OK is suing the IRS over their unilateral decision to provide subsidies via the federal exchange in violation of Obamacare which states that only state exchanges can provide subsidies. That was supposed to be in incentive for states to set them up.

Charlemagne on August 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM

So it’s been our fault all along? I feel so…guilty/////////////////

predator on August 13, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Let’s get a drink! You’re buying……Please?

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM

the markets that are really federal markets

Let that sink in.

wolly4321 on August 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM

That’s the dhimmicrats socialists in a nutshell.

davidk on August 13, 2013 at 9:37 PM

If Sebelius doesn’t like us Red states, we’ll gladly opt out of the union and let the Blue states collapse into chaos.

Charlemagne on August 13, 2013 at 9:38 PM

************************* NUTS **********************************!!

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 9:38 PM

“People die.”

davidk on August 13, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Electrongod on August 13, 2013 at 9:30 PM
KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

ALL freedom-lovers are welcome!!

annoyinglittletwerp on August 13, 2013 at 9:40 PM

Can we get rid of this dunce of a witch?

sadatoni on August 13, 2013 at 9:40 PM

Can we get rid of this dunce of a witch?

sadatoni on August 13, 2013 at 9:40 PM

I know a guy. ///////////////////////////////////////////////Sense of humor?

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:42 PM

“The Pundits like to slice and dice our Country into Blue States
and Red States”……………………………

Obama DNC speech (We are the UNITED states of America)
Uploaded on Nov 13, 2008

Barack Obama at the Democratic Convention in 2004
*************************************************

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Obama+2008+There+is+no+Red+or+blue+America&oq=Obama+2008+There+is+no+Red+or+blue+America&gs_l=youtube.12…1999.18661.0.21272.42.39.0.3.3.0.224.3699.25j13j1.39.0…0.0…1ac.1.11.youtube.JCq9UoDPANo

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Sh*t,sorry wrong linky,on Hopeys DNC Speechy:Red/Blue States!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1z2rCuC0W0

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Let’s get a drink! You’re buying……Please?

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Order up! *clink*

predator on August 13, 2013 at 9:44 PM

And that pesky rodeo clown… The Repubs just can’t help but mock our sensitivities, arrogance and utter stupidity.

I’m outraged!

patman77 on August 13, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Is this the thread about the rodeo clown with the Barky mask and how it’s now illegal, I guess, for anyone to make fun of the Indonesian, 84 IQ, Dog-eating Sukarno clone? Just checking …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Bucket list.

davidk on August 13, 2013 at 9:47 PM

predator on August 13, 2013 at 9:44 PM

You are the man! C’mon everybody!!! Predator is buying!!!!

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Hansel and Gretel called. They want their witch back.

Bitter Clinger on August 13, 2013 at 9:51 PM

predator on August 13, 2013 at 9:44 PM

You are the man! C’mon everybody!!! Predator is buying!!!!

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:47 PM

KCB:

Woo-Hoo,…**Le Clinky**———:0

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 9:52 PM

They are playing with peoples lives. We all know they are collapsing the system. People will die that didn’t need to. When you look at the mess that is coming ….

It’s criminal. Trading lives for power. Enabling lofo’s think they arte invited on the ark? Rude awakening is coming, fer sure.

wolly4321 on August 13, 2013 at 9:54 PM

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 9:52 PM

*clink!*

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Speaking of making things doubly difficult. How soon we forget Kathleen.
-
http://news.yahoo.com/pa-girl-doing-well-2nd-lung-transplant-193353953.html

diogenes on August 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Charlemange
Where do I sign

Respectfully,
A Citizen of the Free State of Alabama

seesalrun2 on August 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM

You are the man! C’mon everybody!!! Predator is buying!!!!

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:47 PM

*well, geesh. Ya buy a drink for one person and all of a sudden it’s “a round for the house.” sigh*

predator on August 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM

They invented the Affordable Care act with two intentions in mind.

1. Single payer system

2. Put it on the credit card. Make America insolvent.

How hard can it possibly be to demonize Republicans who won’t go along???

And why are they so ineffectual at it?

WryTrvllr on August 13, 2013 at 9:58 PM

*well, geesh. Ya buy a drink for one person and all of a sudden it’s “a round for the house.” sigh*

predator on August 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Get one for yourself too!

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:58 PM

OT…http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/13/Missouri-NAACP-rodeo-clown

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:50 PM

KCB:Interesting:)

I have NAACP twitter saved in my vastly growing Political file,and
yet,nothing mentioned,hmmmmm!!

https://twitter.com/NAACP

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Let me squeeze out a tear.

Nope I’ve got nothing.

gophergirl on August 13, 2013 at 9:59 PM

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Can’t wait to see what you and Sophie dig up on this!

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Get one for yourself too!

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Gee, thanks! I’ll do that?!?

predator on August 13, 2013 at 10:01 PM

all of a sudden it’s “a round for the house.” sigh*

predator on August 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Lots of friends til the money runs out.

davidk on August 13, 2013 at 10:02 PM

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 9:52 PM

*clink!*

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 9:55 PM

KCB:————–:0

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Gee, thanks! I’ll do that?!?

predator on August 13, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Don’t worry. I got this one. Just the one. For you… No more.

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 10:03 PM

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Can’t wait to see what you and Sophie dig up on this!

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 10:00 PM

KCM:

Lol,been watching this story all day, a couple of India’s Subs
spontenously combusting!(sarc):)

Oh,at there Docks!
==================

Indian Navy submarine INS Sindhurakshak catches fire, 18 feared trapped

Indo-Asian News Service | Updated: August 14, 2013 07:24 IST
*************************************************************

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/ins-sindhurakshak-catches-fire-18-feared-trapped-405462?pfrom=home-lateststories

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM

FU, bytch.

You cite the fact that the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare, but neglect to mention that the Court rebuffed your argument that states must expand Medicaid. They don’t. Plus, the law doesn’t require them to open exchanges.

Resist We Much on August 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM

This is the set up to start blaming repubs. They do this because the repubs are acting like kicked puppies. I wish their were more repubs like Cruz and Lee. They are like pitt bulls and we all know what happens to someone who kicks a pitt bull. If the GOP would act like they are in the fight a lot less of this nonsense would be happening.

neyney on August 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Bringing stability to Iraq was made doubly difficult when the Democrats were openly rooting for failure. The difference is that not one single Republican voted in favor of Obamacare. On the other hand, most Democrats voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq. So Republican opposition to Obamacare has been consistent and based on principle. Whereas Democrat opposition to the invasion of Iraq was motivated by shear political opportunism as soon as the going got tough.

Gee, I sure wish it were a Republican politician who was saying this in front of the cameras, instead of little ol’ me saying it in the comments section of a blog.

ardenenoch on August 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Don’t worry. I got this one. Just the one. For you… No more.

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Bartender! Make mine a Hirsch…double…neat.

Thanks, Ken.

predator on August 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM

I’ll take the blame if it saves the Nation.

Too bad not many in Washington, D.C. share this feeling.

SouthernGent on August 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM

I will not comply.

Cee You Next Tuesday, Sebelius. Ya miserable hag.

Naturally Curly on August 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Indian Navy submarine INS Sindhurakshak catches fire, 18 feared trapped

Indo-Asian News Service | Updated: August 14, 2013 07:24 IST

The Indian military hasn’t had a good few months…

Indian Army Tracks Chinese Drones For Months; Discovers They’re Actually Jupiter and Venus

Resist We Much on August 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM

diogenes on August 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM

That was the one decision that Sebelius made the RIGHT call on.
That little one should never had been put on the adult list.
TWO transplants?
TWO people could’ve been saved that were already on that list.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 13, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Queen of Death!

22044 on August 13, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Is predator buying again? That’s why I missed him.

22044 on August 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Good evening, your Muchness. *bows*

predator on August 13, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Bartender! Make mine a Hirsch…double…neat.

Thanks, Ken.

predator on August 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Well played, my friend! Well played!

KCB on August 13, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Is predator buying again? That’s why I missed him.

22044 on August 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Think about your health man! Fire water is evil!

predator on August 13, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Indian Navy submarine INS Sindhurakshak catches fire, 18 feared trapped

Indo-Asian News Service | Updated: August 14, 2013 07:24 IST

The Indian military hasn’t had a good few months…

Indian Army Tracks Chinese Drones For Months; Discovers They’re Actually Jupiter and Venus

Resist We Much on August 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Resist We Much: She Sunk:)
============================

The Associated Press ‏@AP 7m

BREAKING: Indian navy says submarine with 18 sailors on board caught fire and sunk at Mumbai base.

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 10:16 PM

I’ll give her this…

She only seems to blame republicans for stuff on days when she can’t make an attempt to let a child die.

trigon on August 13, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Indian Army Tracks Chinese Drones For Months; Discovers They’re Actually Jupiter and Venus

Resist We Much on August 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Resist We Much:Lol,gawd,I needed a laugh—————–:0

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Think about your health man! Fire water is evil!

predator on August 13, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Eeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvviiiiiiiilllllll….

22044 on August 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM

The blame will ALWAYS be put on the gop, or limited government Conservatives (Red states).

This is why the “we must give in to the Democrats or they will just do it anyway” Neville Chamberlain approach will never work.

But, I’ve given up trying to just explain the republicans by saying they are stupid. They are just truly accomplices trying to play “good cop” while they blame Obama and the Democrats as the “bad cop”.

You republican leadership should just come out of the closet and admit you’re PROGRESSIVES (no different) than the Dems.

PappyD61 on August 13, 2013 at 10:27 PM

I love the title of the article
Ill make sure Senator Sessions puts another feather in his cap.
Lib people. Gonna happen but I’m starting a petition to close the Alabama border.
Let it burn and be prepared.

seesalrun2 on August 13, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Not enough of them are. All Red States should have said no.
I wonder what kind of dirt NSA gave Obama to use on them?

astonerii on August 13, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Is Whitey Bulger looking for work?

tim c on August 13, 2013 at 11:07 PM

“And I would’ve gotten away with it, Too! If it wasn’t fer those pesky Red States and those Meddling Kids”

-Kathy “Spook-a-lot” Sebelius, Scooby-Doo Villain.

a5minmajor on August 13, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Our Founding Fathers intended serving in the Federal government to be short-term duty, like jury duty, and intended for the bulk of political power to remain in the hands of the states, preventing the Federal government from being an elitist-run intrusive/oppressive over-bearing entity with most of the power. It is high time the states TOOK back that power and put these elitist overlord-wannabe Constitution violating clowns back in their places! Every time Obama / federal politicians overstep their authority by passing an Un-Constitutional law states should pass their own legislation declaring the new federal law to be null & void – not valid – in their state and cite the Constitutional reason. THAT is the only REAL ‘checks-and-balances’ we have anymore as all 3 branches have proved they are incapable/unwilling to do so any longer.

easyt65 on August 13, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Our Founding Fathers intended serving in the Federal government to be short-term duty, like jury duty, and intended for the bulk of political power to remain in the hands of the states, preventing the Federal government from being an elitist-run intrusive/oppressive over-bearing entity with most of the power. It is high time the states TOOK back that power and put these elitist overlord-wannabe Constitution violating clowns back in their places! Every time Obama / federal politicians overstep their authority by passing an Un-Constitutional law states should pass their own legislation declaring the new federal law to be null & void – not valid – in their state and cite the Constitutional reason. THAT is the only REAL ‘checks-and-balances’ we have anymore as all 3 branches have proved they are incapable/unwilling to do so any longer.

easyt65 on August 13, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Nullify, baby! NULLIFY!

gryphon202 on August 14, 2013 at 12:27 AM

As a matter of politics, mature democrats (there probably are some) can reflect on the cynical and oafish way they pushed this bill through, and will agree in hindsight that this was not the best way to get long-term cooperation from their opponents.

They thought that having the votes was enough. They did not even try to convince republicans. They believed only in their own power and righteousness. Now they see that they cannot complete their Utopian fantasy without their help, and they are mad about it.

Conservatives always opposed this. It can’t be fixed and Democrats gave Republicans no reason at all to help them. Too bad.

virgo on August 14, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Next, the Queen of Death Panels will blame that “wascally wabbit” or those darn Scooby Doo teenage kids!!

Khun Joe on August 14, 2013 at 2:15 AM


but never mind — it’s always going to be those stubborn red states’ fault, natch.

With liberals, it is always somebody else’s fault. It is never, every their fault.

Theophile on August 14, 2013 at 4:38 AM

I believe it was Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts who gave states the right to decide whether or not to set up the OCare exchanges, in his opinion on OCare.

mountainaires on August 14, 2013 at 5:48 AM

Resist We Much on August 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Bingo!

mountainaires on August 14, 2013 at 5:50 AM

The job is made “doubly difficult” by the fact of the law in the first place, and by the fact that a lawless HHS Secretary and Executive keep changing it unilaterally in the secon place!

mountainaires on August 14, 2013 at 5:55 AM

So you do something totally legal within the framework of the law and YOU are to blame for the law’s failure?

Yeah, right.

There are some beaches that need their sand pounded, Kathleen… why don’t you give them a visit?

ajacksonian on August 14, 2013 at 7:04 AM

Republicans who have opposed the 2010 health-care system overhaul and continue to undermine next year’s core implementation.

Um, how exactly are they undermining it? When the damn thing’s not undermining itself, it’s the Øbama administration that is delaying parts of it or granting waivers to it. There are a few Republicans conservatives who are pursuing what will likely be an ill-fated effort at defunding the monstrosity but aside from that, there is not anything they have done or could do to affect the implementation.

Kafir on August 14, 2013 at 7:48 AM

There have been plenty of problems coming out of enthusiastic blue states about getting insurance companies to comply with the arbitrarily determined caps, but never mind — it’s always going to be those stubborn red states’ fault, natch.

.
Not to mention, Kathy you ignorant slut, that the unions have spoken out against Ø-care as “destructive to the middle class.” What kind of evil, ignorant thing do you have to say to them?

ExpressoBold on August 14, 2013 at 7:50 AM

She forgot to mention SC where there is legislation that outlaws all state support for Obamacare and the mandate to increase medicaid.

alQemist on August 14, 2013 at 8:39 AM

In states such as Georgia where the governor and legislature are in Republican hands, “the job is made doubly difficult,” Sebelius said in an interview today during a visit to Atlanta to meet with supporters of the law.

With apologies to Charlie Daniels, “The devil went down to Georgia looking for a soul to steal”…

But let’s drill down through the misinformation, Madam Secretary. The way the Administration has manipulated Obamacare, corporations (employers) don’t have to offer health insurance until 2015. So if employees are cut off from health insurance from their employer, they MUST pay a health insurance tax to the Federal Government, or else buy health insurance for which out-of-pocket costs are unlimited, more than $12,700.

Why would clear-thinking people ever pay thousands of dollars for something that may never pay them back? Wouldn’t they pay the Obelius tax and hope they don’t get sick, and tell the tax collector to get lost?

Steve Z on August 14, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Next up for Sebelius, declaring that anyone who opts to pay the tax, as defined by the Supreme Court, will now be sent to an internment camp if they don’t buy government mandated health insurance.

Get off my lawn, Sebelius.

MichaelGabriel on August 14, 2013 at 11:20 AM