Rubio: If we don’t pass immigration reform, Obama might legalize illegals by executive order

posted at 2:01 pm on August 13, 2013 by Allahpundit

Skip to 3:45 for the key bit, in which a guy who’s willing to go nuclear in a quixotic bid to defund ObamaCare warns his party not to be too obstinate in resisting immigration reform — or else. Mark Krikorian summarizes his logic this way:

In fairness to him, Rubio’s not making this up. Amnesty shills on the left have warned, with increasing volume lately, that King Barack might decide to grant de facto amnesty to illegals via executive order for the remainder of his term if nothing passes Congress. That’s their way — and now Marco Rubio’s way — of trying to scare House Republicans into action. The surprise isn’t that O, who’s willing to dispense with key provisions from his own health-care law for political reasons, might entertain a power grab that lawless. The surprise is that a Republican senator who ran as a tea-party star seems to be treating the idea as some sort of viable Democratic trump card rather than as an egregious outrage. Why does funding ObamaCare, which, for all its faults, was duly passed by Congress, cross a philosophical red line for him whereas the idea of the president essentially seizing power from Congress over immigration doesn’t? To hear O tell it, the whole reason he’s resorted to unilateral executive action is because he’s grumpy that obstructionist Republicans won’t move his agenda. Here’s Rubio saying, “Yeah, we’d better stop doing that, so that at least we get half a loaf.” Did candidate Rubio think the GOP should also have compromised on universal health care, lest Obama pass some form of ObamaCare via executive fiat?

The worst part is that Obama himself acknowledged last month that he “probably” doesn’t have the authority to do something like this. He moved the Overton window towards the GOP, and now here’s Rubio moving it back towards the Democrats. What he should have said to the interviewer was that if O tries anything like this, he’ll file suit in federal court claiming a breach of separation of powers and move to filibuster all legislation pending in the Senate until Obama rescinds the order. Instead he’s in McCain mode: Just as Maverick seems eager to push the Democratic talking point that the GOP will never win another national election if they don’t pass some form of amnesty, here’s Rubio treating Obama’s executive overreach as a political fact of life rather than as a catalyst for serious congressional pushback. And the big punchline is that that habit of overreach actually argues against passing reform, not for it. If Rubio’s worried about an executive gone rogue (and I use the word “worried” loosely), his chief concern should be that the Gang of Eight bill will pass and then Obama will simply ignore the border-security provisions like he did the employer mandate in ObamaCare. Better to pass nothing in that case and withhold even the barest perception of congressional sanction for that sort of unconstitutional behavior than sell your constituents on all the new enforcement measures in your plan and then have Obama pick and choose which parts to enforce and which to ignore from the legislative smorgasbord you’ve assembled for him.

Exit question: How did we as a country get to the point of having to game out major legislative initiatives by first determining just how lawless the president’s response to them will be? Doesn’t that bother Rubio more than the idea of immigration reform petering out?


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So if I get his reasoning right, someone else doing a bad thing should be an excuse for him to do a bad thing?

Rubio…dude…

archer52 on August 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Bush spit on the Constitution for many years. Everyone here was okay with it then.

Some warned you all about what would happen when the other party got in power and began to exercise that power against the Constitution, seeing that the GOP was okay with Bush’s betrayal of the Constitution, the GOP would have little in the way of credibility on this issue.

And there we are.

And you all call the Paulian’s idiots…goodness, what fools you make of yourselves

True_King on August 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

What’s the point of voting in 2014? Obama will still be president and do whatever he wants.

It’s past time for needing new leadership. Why are we putting our hope in a handful of senators in the minority to stop things like Obamacare and immigration?

ritewhit on August 13, 2013 at 9:19 PM

And you all call the Paulian’s idiots…goodness, what fools you make of yourselves

True_King on August 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

You are an idiot.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 13, 2013 at 9:29 PM

If we don’t pass…..
We get anarchy?
No my friend, you get a horse head in your bed but the Republic lives another day.

seesalrun2 on August 13, 2013 at 9:41 PM

True_King on August 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Unsubstantiated claim. Be more specific if you want to be taken seriously.

exdeadhead on August 13, 2013 at 9:52 PM

As noted earlier …

… cite specifics or admit your lie.

PolAgnostic on August 13, 2013 at 3:15 PM

I’m not going to spend hours of my life going through comments. I’ve seen comments like that here. I’m not lying.

terryannoncrack on August 13, 2013 at 3:18 PM

…when you’re on crack…what is time?

KOOLAID2 on August 13, 2013 at 9:54 PM

True_King on August 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Unsubstantiated claim. Be more specific if you want to be taken seriously.

exdeadhead on August 13, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Patriot Act

Medicare Part D

Runaway Federal Spending Under HIS Watch

all unconstitutional, and those aren’t the only examples — only the ones I had the time to type out off the top of my head.

gryphon202 on August 13, 2013 at 10:04 PM

The dude has lost it.

conservative pilgrim on August 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Bush spit on the Constitution for many years. Everyone here was okay with it then.

Some warned you all about what would happen when the other party got in power and began to exercise that power against the Constitution, seeing that the GOP was okay with Bush’s betrayal of the Constitution, the GOP would have little in the way of credibility on this issue.

And there we are.

And you all call the Paulian’s idiots…goodness, what fools you make of yourselves

True_King on August 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

WRONG.

Limited government Conservatives here took the approach that the Patriot Act was an overreach.

We have screamed for years about the TSA feeling up Granny all the while ignoring the real terror threat from Muslim males under the age of 40.

We screached about Harriet Meirs and about her shortcomings for the SCOTUS.

We pitched a fit and got in the faces of the lying republican leadership (led by Bush) when they tried AMNESTY the first time in 2006-2007.

We howled about his bailout of the auto companies.

We yelled bloody murder when Hank Paulson forced TARP down our throats and then didn’t use all the money for the purpose Congress passed it.

When Bush said he abandoned the free market to save it we loudly declared he was wrong, wrong, wrong.

We’ve also been calling “stink” when he got together with Teddy Kennedy and Miller to pass a federal takeover of education with No Child Left Behind.

Iraq and Afghanistan? We still give him grief for a war over there for what purpose? Propping up a dictator in the mountains of some 7th century Islamic haven (Afghanistan)? After 12 years and thousands killed and maimed and hundreds of billions wasted what have we gotten out of it?

BUSH?……….we’ve been onto him for years. And have been very vocal about his failings.

PappyD61 on August 13, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Seriously Rubio… just f’n drop it already. You still have a slim chance of rehabilitating your reputation.

What we have now is not de facto amnesty, it is un-enforced laws. What you are touting is amnesty and total destruction of this country in 1 generation. There is something to be said for not letting in a few million people from the left leaning areas way down south…

Chubbs65 on August 13, 2013 at 10:37 PM

What he should have said to the interviewer was that if O tries anything like this, he’ll file suit in federal court claiming a breach of separation of powers and move to filibuster all legislation pending in the Senate until Obama rescinds the order.

But this would have required actually being a GOP senator… instead a senator who is a member of the political class… that elite and exclusive club of crony’s and nepotists bent on grooming their own ambitions and services the needs of the political class and… above all… remaining a member of the political class.

Increasingly it becomes clear that this nation no longer has two distinct political parties, each with a distinct platform and ideology. Instead we have one political class comprised of those elected to office who promptly put their own ambitions and the needs of the political class at large before the needs of the constituents who elected them.

I wouldn’t vote for Rubio for any office. His about face on the immigration issue, at the expense of the rule of law, and to the detriment of the citizens of this nation that the federal immigration laws were design to protect from the predation of illegal aliens, is more than ample example of his lack of character.

thatsafactjack on August 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Uh Marco, People suspect you’re an idiot…You shouldn’t keep opening your mouth and proving it

bluesdoc70 on August 13, 2013 at 11:21 PM

BS fear tactic – Obama doesn’t have the Constitutional to grant Amnesty to over 11 million illegals…and if he tries it & gutless GOP like Rubio do not move to have him Impeached at that point the Americans should immediately target the GOP in office to have them removed!

easyt65 on August 13, 2013 at 11:26 PM

(Constitutional authority)

easyt65 on August 13, 2013 at 11:27 PM

If Rubio thinks Obama can EO amnesty, what makes him think that he can’t EO away E-verify and whatever other goodies Rubio put in the bill?

besser tot als rot on August 14, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Bush spit on the Constitution for many years. Everyone here was okay with it then.

True_King on August 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

.
No, “everyone here was” NOT “okay with it then.”
.

Some warned you all about what would happen when the other party got in power and began to exercise that power against the Constitution, seeing that the GOP was okay with Bush’s betrayal of the Constitution, the GOP would have little in the way of credibility on this issue.

And there we are.

True_King on August 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

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I’m pretty sure I agreed with it then, and I know agree with that now.
.

And you all call the Paulian’s idiots…goodness, what fools you make of yourselves

True_King on August 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

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Yeah, I still do that … foolish or otherwise.

listens2glenn on August 14, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Some warned you all about what would happen when the other party got in power and began to exercise that power against the Constitution, seeing that the GOP was okay with Bush’s betrayal of the Constitution, the GOP would have little in the way of credibility on this issue.

True_King on August 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

That’s retarded, as you are. What we have now has nothing to do with “the other party” being in power. What we have now is a traitor and criminal in the Oval Office. He’s not restricted by any law so take your idiocy about “the other party got in power” and stick it where the sun don’t shine. You can’t make any law that a criminal who is not held to any law will be held to – yeah, it’s a simple tautology but you don’t seem able to comprehend this. This has nothing to do with the Patriot Act. Barky is acting illegally – without any regard to the Patriot Act. You couldn’t fashion ANY law that would have made Barky act differently because he is above any law.

The problem is not the law, it’s the lawless (which Bush most certainly was NOT) and the fact that the cowardly GOP refused and refuses to hold the criminals and traitors accountable. That, again, has nothing to do with the Patriot Act or Bush, nor with any powers given to the Executive, since barky just takes any friggin power he wants.

You are a tard and your idiocy is beyond annoying. Go Occupoop somewhere.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 14, 2013 at 12:36 AM

Rubio, you might be put in prison by executive order. What are you talking about? Anything at all is possible in your scenario (including that you should not be listened to on anything important).

virgo on August 14, 2013 at 12:56 AM

AND YOU TESTOSTERONE-CHALLENGED NO-GOODS WILL AGAIN FAIL TO IMPEACH HIM FOR EXTRA-CONSTITUTIONAL ACTION!!!!!

Excuse me. Momentarily lost my self control. I get the feeling that it will happen more often. Probably until I must remain very quiet behind a tree while running from the Jackboots that these NEVILLE CHAMBERLAINS are releasing on us….

Medbob on August 14, 2013 at 1:40 AM

Obama should have been impeached for unconstitutionally “legalizing” the children of illegal aliens by bogus Dream fiat.

His continuing fraudulent use of “executive orders” insults the Law and the nation.

But the gutless wonders in the GOP have no brains or balls to oppose Barack’s naked depotism.

profitsbeard on August 14, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Rubio will be switching parties in 5, 4, 3, 2…

Theophile on August 14, 2013 at 4:42 AM

In fairness to him, Rubio’s not making this up. Amnesty shills on the left have warned, with increasing volume lately, that King Barack might decide to grant de facto amnesty to illegals via executive order for the remainder of his term if nothing passes Congress.

I believe the president should try it. Then watch as the Democratic Party fades into obscurity.

The media can freep all the polls they want and hide the very high rate of criminal activity among illegal immigrants. They can attempt to pass over the analysis of entitlements vs. economic contribution, which if fairly carried out indicates illegal aliens are a net subtraction from or society (as opposed to legal immigrants). But people intuitively, and in their communities know the real truth. That will be displayed aptly at the ballot box.

American citizens don’t have jobs or are working part time to feed their families. People are struggling to keep their homes, put their kids through school and get the basic essentials to live. This president and Democrats in the Senate have done nothing to alleviate that pain and have pushed an agenda that has done nothing to help- in fact its made things worse.

That electoral ship is about to come in and Mr. Obama pulling such an unconstitutional stunt will only ensure it crashes at a faster speed.

Marcus Traianus on August 14, 2013 at 7:04 AM

So Rubio isn’t just a bald faced liar… He is a full on idiot trying out to replace McCain in his role of ” with Republicans like these who needs Democrats”… Front runner for sure. I can’t wait to work for and vote against this mistake that was sent to the Senate!

Caseoftheblues on August 14, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Does MR really think that dear leader won’t pick and choose which parts of any law that is duly passed he will enforce? This guy beats the proverbial box of rock any day.

Kissmygrits on August 14, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Not very presidential reasoning by Senor Rubio…to say the least. No way would I ever vote for this clown.

” Marco Rubio Confronted on Amnesty Bill at Town Hall – Doubles Down (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 12:27 AM

“Gang of Ocho” member Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) was confronted by radio host Doc Washburn on his amnesty plan tonight at a Republican Party meeting in Panama City, Florida.

Rubio doubled-down.
It’s hard to listen to.

Doc Washburn reported:

” I used to be a big cheerleader for Senator Rubio. I was grieved when he joined with Democrats in the Senate to push amnesty. Imho, they are trying to complete the “fundamental transformation” of our country and now he is aligned with them. Marco used to say the problem with our immigration system is that our government refuses to enforce existing law. Now he seems to think that Congress can pass a bill to make this President enforce immigration law.

I tried to call him on it politely. Unfortunately, instead of addressing this paradox, he just doubled down. Needless to say, I was disappointed…”

link
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/

workingclass artist on August 14, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Rubio will be switching parties in 5, 4, 3, 2…

Theophile on August 14, 2013 at 4:42 AM

So will Christie.

workingclass artist on August 14, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Rubio is a rube.

If Obama had any intention of enforcing border security, he would already be enforcing current laws. Instead, Obama is ignoring him. It would be a PR disaster for him to grant de facto amnesty, and Obama knows it.

bitsy on August 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM

So if I get his reasoning right, someone else doing a bad thing should be an excuse for him to do a bad thing?

Rubio…dude…

archer52 on August 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Yeah.

Imagine him in negotiations with someone like Putin…Senor Rubio would cave faster than the dogeater.

workingclass artist on August 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Let Obama legalize the illegals by EO. It will be the straw that broke the camels back.

SpiderMike on August 14, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Let Obama legalize the illegals by EO. It will be the straw that broke the camels back.

SpiderMike on August 14, 2013 at 9:12 AM

He’ll grant them refugee status.

Taxpayers are already paying for the hotel rooms.

what a freekin’ mess.

workingclass artist on August 14, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Are the Democrats likewise ready to repeal ObamaCare in fear of the Republicans de-funding it? Of course not, the Democrats play to win while the Republicans like Rubio here play “go along and get along” with the Democrats.

RJL on August 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM

There is no money to keep funding these things. The perpetual printing press will eventually run out of ink. If they want this let the Democrats own it.

Egfrow on August 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Ribio is not fit to run for President. He is a sellout and a WIMP!! Republicans need to stand strong against the Rule of Law and the Constitution! I have not seen one dam* thing to stop the constant abuse that King Obama shoves down out throat. Man Up Senator!

karlinsync on August 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM

If Rubio thinks Obama can EO amnesty, what makes him think that he can’t EO away E-verify and whatever other goodies Rubio put in the bill?

besser tot als rot on August 14, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Careful there, you just might blow up Rubio’s brain with that logic. Perhaps you should go to sensitivity training for dealing with half-wits, you silly clown you. ;)

oryguncon on August 14, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Instead of just talking….

I’m moving to Florida … so I can vote against this traitor.

fred5678 on August 14, 2013 at 12:00 PM

If Rubio thinks Obama can EO amnesty, what makes him think that he can’t EO away E-verify and whatever other goodies Rubio put in the bill?

besser tot als rot on August 14, 2013 at 12:21 AM

He will not have to – as McCain and Schumer have helpfully noted in the past 2 weeks – all those wacko bird elements of the bill like:
- border security
- e-verify
- fines and back taxes
- restrictions on eligibility for social services
- etc.
- etc.

will be stripped out in conference.

See how helpful that is? That way Obama’s hands are clean.

in_awe on August 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM

If Obama does it, then impeach him. These are separate “co-equal” branches.

Sheesh.

Jabez01 on August 14, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Having him use his EOs might be a better deal. You can sue the socks off him on this one. This is legislative business not his personal agenda stuff. Bring it on!

BetseyRoss on August 14, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Rubio has become the most vacuous politico on the scene. He must be removed from Congress ASAP!

el Vaquero on August 14, 2013 at 12:59 PM

I think I saw Rubio light up the sky the other night. And then he was gone.

Carnac on August 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Let me get this straight.

We need to pass this law in order to save Obama from breaking the law by doing what he’s going to do anyway?

Yeaaaahhhh no.

pendell2 on August 14, 2013 at 6:20 PM

First amnesty and now quivering cowardice!
No way would I vote for this guy.
“President Rubio, there is a group threatening to break the law and destroy the bridge to nowhere”
President Rubio responds “Well we better meet their demands or they just might follow through on their threat!”

Ibanez Lotus on August 14, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Marco, you’re a freaking idiot. I was once high on you being the new face of the GOP but now you have sunk to new lows. For OMeWannaBeKing, this would be a smack in the face of all LEGAL Americans.

generouse on August 15, 2013 at 9:52 AM

This is excerpted in a way to make conservatives upset with Rubio.

“In fairness to him, Rubio’s not making this up. Amnesty shills on the left have warned, with increasing volume lately, that King Barack might decide to grant de facto amnesty to illegals via executive order for the remainder of his term if nothing passes Congress.”

It was also true that the pressure to join the Gang of Eight (Essh, “gangs”) came from the notion that Harry Reid the majority leader of the Democrat Senate was rumored to be ready to pass an immigration reform bill which would please the left, and republicans could not stop it. Without any Republican input. And then blame them for not being on board, Blame them for not caring enough…etc, which we don’t care about.

But for Floridians…they seem to be rather seventies stylized big hair republicans? lots of immigrants? want to keep their illegal Nanny? I don’t know what is in the water there but they are the home of Jeb Bush and Scott and Crist, Eee Gads. Rubio’s constituents are hard for me to understand. But I bet a lot of them watch the Today show and like Bill O’Reilly but find Mark Levin’s books to be a difficult reading level, for all O’Reilly’s talk about keeping things Pithy, his books are shallow.

There are many forces wanting to shape the choices for the republican presidential candidate at play right now, and I am not willing to write off Rubio. I know he was looking for a platform, and the republican leadership was not giving it, I remember Scott Brown in that position, feeling powerless in Washington, and the media and the democrats gave both these guys rope to hang themselves with, by featuring their populist side and angering conservatives that don’t know them.

Immigration REFORM or enforcement of our current laws would be a good idea. We republicans cannot get there from here, the cat is out of the bag from Harry Reid, they will gut reforms in conference. They plan to run on this theme in 2014.

If there is anything to do to pre empt Obama legalizing people when he does not have the power, republicans should start talking about it. Obviously this week with Mexican inmates running the Asylum requests at the CA border this last week, they are doing everything they can to cause chaos and render our laws ineffective.

And with the Gang of Eight bill, Obama will do just what Rubio says here, he will speed up the things he likes and ignore the laws that are inconvenient.

Fleuries on August 15, 2013 at 10:28 AM

We won’t get an enforce E-Verify or Border security either, why make it easy on him. And if it unilaterally does it, we need to fight back that he stole the vote of millions of Americans for political gain and it is time to burn it down.

rgranger on August 15, 2013 at 1:33 PM

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