Report: Boehner and Cantor confident that House GOP won’t shut down government over defunding ObamaCare

posted at 4:01 pm on August 13, 2013 by Allahpundit

Byron York’s been keeping count of how many Senate Republicans have dismissed the Mike Lee/Ted Cruz plan to defund O-Care as nutty, infeasible, or some variation thereof. As of last Thursday, there were eight. Lee and Cruz can only afford to lose five GOPers total in order to mount a successful filibuster. That means not only would every undecided Republican in the Senate have to side with them on this, they’d need to win back three people from the nutty/infeasible caucus. Ain’t happening, in which case why would Boehner and Cantor go to the mat for it in the House?

The real brinksmanship, supposedly, will be reserved for the debt-ceiling fight in the fall. Although even there, the leadership’s nudging people not to expect a shutdown:

Keeping the roiling House GOP united and away from the shutdown temptation in the weeks ahead won’t be easy, especially as the Beltway’s ever-increasing crowd of conservative organizations prod Republicans to shut down the government as a statement of principle. But my cloakroom sources tell me they’re now confident that House Republicans will not tread into a shutdown battle with the Obama White House. GOP firebrands may threaten a shutdown and theatrically insist it remains an option, but the party’s private appetite for one, even among the right flank, is dissipating…

“A shutdown? It’s not happening, it’s really not, but I guess you won’t hear people say that out loud, including me,” chuckles a senior House Republican. “No one, you see, wants to be ‘out-toughed’ on Obamacare. We’re out here talking about repeal everyday. But the speaker and everybody else here know that the Senate votes, unfortunately, will never be there to pass a continuing resolution to defund Obamacare.”…

In the early morning [of July 31], Boehner went before House Republicans for a closed-door session in the Capitol basement and outlined his approach. It was Boehner’s most direct statement in weeks about the “defund or shutdown” discussion. He pulled the focus away from the tactic of using shutdown as leverage for defunding the law and argued instead for “well-placed, targeted strikes that will ultimately dissolve the Obamacare coalition,” such as the recent votes to delay the employer mandate and the individual mandate, both of which won scattered support from House Democrats. “We’ll have to stick together and communicate,” he said. “But this strategy is achievable. And it’s our best shot at actually getting rid of Obamacare.”

Members were also buzzing about the leadership’s emerging strategy for the autumn talks. Sources tell me the House GOP will probably avoid using a shutdown as leverage and instead use the debt limit and sequester fights as areas for potential legislative trades. Negotiations over increasing the debt limit have frequently been used to wring concessions out of the administration, so there may be movement in that direction: Delay Obamacare in exchange for an increased debt limit.

Obama won’t agree to delay implementation of the entire law. He needs the exchanges running ASAP so that people can start receiving subsidies. Once that happens, not even a Republican-dominated Congress will dare cancel the program. Depending upon how rickety the law looks in the fall, though — and it’s already looking pretty rickety — Republicans may have more bipartisan support than they do now for delaying major provisions, like the individual mandate. Once you start freezing key funding mechanisms like that, maybe the law looks unsustainably rickety next year and Democrats have no choice but to reach out to the GOP (including the new Republican Senate majority?) for an overhaul. That’s the endgame here for GOP leadership, I think.

As for Lee, Cruz, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, and the other defunding diehards, they’ll have to console themselves with embracing a lost cause that’ll cost them nothing politically while boosting their favorable ratings with grassroots righties. Not a coincidence, needless to say, that three of those guys are probably running in 2016. In case you missed it yesterday, via the Right Scoop, take 30 minutes from a slow August news day afternoon to hear Lee debate Karl Rove on the merits of a shutdown.


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Gee — What to do here?

Call up for a $400/hour hooker or spend the night over The Porcelain Goddess?

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Gee — What to do here?

Call up for a $400/hour hooker or spend the night over The Porcelain Goddess?

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Might as well spend your money on something while your money is still worth something.

gryphon202 on August 13, 2013 at 4:05 PM

“…..chuckles a senior House Republican….”

Let me fix that:

“Chuckles, a senior House Republican..”

They’re all clowns, you see?

aquaviva on August 13, 2013 at 4:08 PM

That’s the endgame here for GOP leadership, I think.

Aww… isn’t that precious. You think that the GOP has an endgame.

besser tot als rot on August 13, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Interesting that we always have to hear from timid Sir Robin Boehner through “reports” whereas with Nanzi Pelosi we always heard directly from the loco horse’s mouth, so to speak.

viking01 on August 13, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Report: Boehner and Cantor confident that House GOP won’t shut down government over defunding ObamaCare
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Oh boyo:

***** Fire Up The Gauntlet **********************!!!

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

“Chuckles, a senior House Republican..”
They’re all clowns, you see?

aquaviva on August 13, 2013 at 4:08 PM

And rather bad ones at that.

hawkeye54 on August 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Well they better do something.

Akzed on August 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

So, they swing both ways?

Oil Can on August 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Well they better do something.

Akzed on August 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Do you mean, something other than posture for a little while before rolling over like a dog and begging Obama to rub their bellies?

besser tot als rot on August 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Results for #Obamacare
**********************

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Obamacare&src=hash

RNC ‏@GOP 26m

#ObamaCare delays are stacking up, with another portion delayed till 2015. http://bit.ly/121Z9kq

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:13 PM

I really don’t care whether they vote to defund O-care because it will never pass; it’ll be the 40th (or maybe 41st) vote to get rid of O-care that has gone no-where. What I care about is Obama’s ignoring passed laws, abusing the rule of law, and creating new laws and regulations he has no authority to make. If the GOP House doesn’t have him in court in the next 30 days on these issues they should all be impeached for dereliction of duty.

Tater Salad on August 13, 2013 at 4:13 PM

“Chuckles, a senior House Republican..”
They’re all clowns, you see?

aquaviva on August 13, 2013 at 4:08 PM

And rather bad ones at that.

hawkeye54 on August 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

“Clowns after midnight” as Boris Karloff once described.

viking01 on August 13, 2013 at 4:16 PM

I really don’t care whether they vote to defund O-care because it will never pass;

Tater Salad on August 13, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Is it a vote to defund, or a vote not to fund? I thought it was the latter. Because if it is a vote to fund the government (but does not fund Obamacare), it doesn’t matter whether it passes or not. If it’s not funded, it’s not funded.

besser tot als rot on August 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Tweets All / No replies

Darrell Issa ‏@DarrellIssa 3h

POTUS continues delaying portions of #ObamaCare favorable to businesses but leaves consumers in the wake. Our take: delay it all.
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Darrell Issa ‏@DarrellIssa 4h

RT @SpeakerBoehner: What else isn’t working in #ObamaCare that we don’t yet know about? http://j.mp/13hpi1j
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canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Say, why not just enforce the law as written?

rogerb on August 13, 2013 at 4:18 PM

If these two would spend as much time screwing each other as they do us ……

rik on August 13, 2013 at 4:18 PM

hawkeye54 on August 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

“Clowns after midnight” as Boris Karloff once described.

viking01 on August 13, 2013 at 4:16 PM

viking01:

Smacks of SpookyGoons!!:)

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Say, why not just enforce the law as written?

rogerb on August 13, 2013 at 4:18 PM

That would be racist, according to liberals, no matter how neutral might be the law as written and passed.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 4:20 PM

ALLAHPUNDIT and Carl Rove are sounding IDENTICAL!

And, after hearing Rove on Hannity yesterday, I realized that there is NO DAYLIGHT between Rove and Pelosi!

Freddy on August 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Obama won’t agree to delay implementation of the entire law. He needs the exchanges running ASAP so that people can start receiving subsidies. Once that happens, not even a Republican-dominated Congress will dare cancel the program. Depending upon how rickety the law looks in the fall, though — and it’s already looking pretty rickety — Republicans may have more bipartisan support than they do now for delaying major provisions, like the individual mandate. Once you start freezing key funding mechanisms like that, maybe the law looks unsustainably rickety next year and Democrats have no choice but to reach out to the GOP (including the new Republican Senate majority?) for an overhaul. That’s the endgame here for GOP leadership, I think.

kunegetikos on August 13, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Speaking of HopeyCare:A new AD!

ObamaCare is Here to Stay, Thanks to John Barrow NRCC | August 13th, 2013

Barrow Voted To Keep ObamaCare Three Times
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The National Republican Congressional Committee released a broadcast television ad in Georgia today that highlights Congressman John Barrow’s continued support to keep ObamaCare and its job-crushing, harmfully expensive policies.

Despite the recent scandals surrounding the Obama Administration and their inability to manage the $1.76 trillion law, John Barrow continues to support the expensive policies and 198 percent premium increase that Georgia families could be faced with heading into 2014.(More…)
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http://www.nrcc.org/2013/08/13/obamacare-is-here-to-stay-thanks-to-john-barrow/

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Is the plural of doofus, doofi?

totherightofthem on August 13, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Is it a vote to defund, or a vote not to fund? I thought it was the latter. Because if it is a vote to fund the government (but does not fund Obamacare), it doesn’t matter whether it passes or not. If it’s not funded, it’s not funded.

besser tot als rot on August 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Semantics aside, I feel the area where Obama and his group are having the greatest impact on the Constitution is their complete disregard for laws as written and their instituting rules and regulation around Congress. O-care sucks, but it is only the tip of the iceberg, and he’s happy to have the GOP spending all of their time and political capital on it.

Tater Salad on August 13, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Is the plural of doofus, doofi?

totherightofthem on August 13, 2013 at 4:23 PM

I would use the term ‘liberal(s)’ instead.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

I knew something wasnt’ j iggy -
when I saw the words Confident and Government in the same sentence.

FlaMurph on August 13, 2013 at 4:27 PM

send in the rodeo clowns

Windsweeping on August 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Smacks of SpookyGoons!!:)

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:19 PM

I’m thinking Killer Klowns from Outer Space where we all get wrapped up in cotton candy cocoons and face similar circus themed perils “for our own good.”

viking01 on August 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Semantics aside, I feel the area where Obama and his group are having the greatest impact on the Constitution is their complete disregard for laws as written and their instituting rules and regulation around Congress. O-care sucks, but it is only the tip of the iceberg, and he’s happy to have the GOP spending all of their time and political capital on it.

Tater Salad on August 13, 2013 at 4:24 PM

I don’t think that it’s semantics. If it’s already funded without a new law being passed (like SS is), then you’re right. Defunding it is pointless. But if it is not funded unless they fund it, then that is an entirely different proposition. If they refuse to fund it, it’s simply not funded. And any vote to fund it, is actually a vote for Obamacare.

And, I agree with you about the rule of law. It is dying, and the GOP is complicit in allowing it to happen.

besser tot als rot on August 13, 2013 at 4:30 PM

I would use the term ‘liberal(s)’ instead.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Seeing as how they are synonymous terms, I see your point. ;-)

totherightofthem on August 13, 2013 at 4:31 PM

send in the rodeo clowns

Windsweeping on August 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Hey, rodeo clowns have guts unlike our GOP fossils chuckling past Liberty’s graveyard.

viking01 on August 13, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Boehner and Cantor confident that House GOP won’t shut down government over defunding ObamaCare

Dumb and Dumber surrendering again….

Given the unpopularity of Obamacare, this seems like the perfect item to go to the mattresses over – instead, they rush to grab their ankles….

The progressives are at war with us – and the GOP leadership think they are playing badminton.

Athos on August 13, 2013 at 4:32 PM

The only way Democrats will agree to delay the entire law is if the only other option is full implementation.

I don’t know what the process is, but can’t the Republicans challenge all of the administrative waivers/delays in an expedited appeal to the Supreme Court? If the Dems can get away with delaying the harmful provisions until after the elections but they can start rolling out the subsidies, they’ll do just that. But if they are forced to choose between making the entire thing operational in a few months or delaying the whole thing until after elections, I think enough of them will side with the GOP out of self-interest.

Lawdawg86 on August 13, 2013 at 4:32 PM

The Moderate Republican Establishment are wusses. Period.

kingsjester on August 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM

No wonder Boner and company went after Palin and the Tea Party after 2010.

Actually standing for something when there’s golf to be played, tans to be perfected and cocktail party drinks to sip certainly beats representing the serfs.

“Sire, the peasants are revolting! Damn straight !, they stink on ice.”
—— Mel Brook’s History of the World, Part I.

viking01 on August 13, 2013 at 4:44 PM

The GOP needs to clean house in all leadership positions in both the House and Senate. If not, then there should be a 3rd party! I have voted GOP for over 50 years and 2012 may have been my last.

lhuffman34 on August 13, 2013 at 4:54 PM

ALLAHPUNDIT and Carl Rove are sounding IDENTICAL!

And, after hearing Rove on Hannity yesterday, I realized that there is NO DAYLIGHT between Rove and Pelosi!

Freddy on August 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Freddy:

Thats Pure Loony-Tic Speak!

(sarc)

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Smacks of SpookyGoons!!:)

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:19 PM

I’m thinking Killer Klowns from Outer Space where we all get wrapped up in cotton candy cocoons and face similar circus themed perils “for our own good.”

viking01 on August 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

viking01:Lol,good one:)

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Time to dump the GOP leadership. They already are willing to surrender before even taking up an issue. They seek to work with the Senate and never get anything in return for their appeasement.

Time to indicate a crisis in leadership in the House GOP and call for a vote of no confidence against the orange one.

Happy Nomad on August 13, 2013 at 4:58 PM

after hearing Rove on Hannity yesterday, I realized that there is NO DAYLIGHT between Rove and Pelosi!

Freddy on August 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Yeah, Nancy has entertained many “conservatives” on that couch.

Happy Nomad on August 13, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Boehner and Cantor confident that House GOP won’t shut down government over defunding ObamaCare

Of course they won’t, they will pass the CR including the funding for Obamacare.

I don’t believe anything their forked tongues spew out. Liars all.

Oh, did you catch the National Review (linked to above) their slam at the Tea Party?

“The House leadership’s aversion to the tea-party plan”

I wasn’t aware that shutting down the government and or defunding Obamacare was a T.P. plan.

bluefox on August 13, 2013 at 5:18 PM

after hearing Rove on Hannity yesterday, I realized that there is NO DAYLIGHT between Rove and Pelosi!

Freddy on August 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Thank you. I listened to that on Hannity’s show and a HA commenter said to me:

I heard the same interview and wasn’t impressed with Lee. If it were a scored debate Rove would have been a unanimous winner. Lee, unfortunately in Democrat fashion, ignored the questions posed and gave stock answers.

To win the argument he needs a new message.
*****************************************************

I heard Rove stuttering and being flustered and thot Mike Lee made his case better than Rove did. Rove was coming from the Dem point of view imo.

bluefox on August 13, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Once upon a time…

Obama won’t agree to delay implementation of the entire law. He needs the exchanges running ASAP so that people can start receiving subsidies. Once that happens, not even a Republican-dominated Congress will dare cancel the program. Depending upon how rickety the law looks in the fall, though — and it’s already looking pretty rickety — Republicans may have more bipartisan support than they do now for delaying major provisions, like the individual mandate. Once you start freezing key funding mechanisms like that, maybe the law looks unsustainably rickety next year and Democrats have no choice but to reach out to the GOP (including the new Republican Senate majority?) for an overhaul. That’s the endgame here for GOP leadership…

….and they all lived happily ever after.

EastofEden on August 13, 2013 at 5:55 PM

IMV the main goal ahead is to cleanout as many DC Obama-Enablers on both sides of the aisle as possible (especially the GOP side) in Nov 2014.

Therefore we need to really fire up the passionate Conservative Base with issues they care most about, namely the Obamacare BULLSCHMIDT, amnesty (and 2A, but that fight has been won … for now.)

So, it would be best if there is a huge passionate fight against the GOPe DC Leadership from now on and through The Fall, with the emasculated RINOs choosing to DEFY the Conservative Base by continuing to fund the Obamacare BULLSCHMIDT… (perhaps requiring collusion with the DEMs, which would be even better)

… and if they betray the Base wrt amnesty as well, that would be a bonus …

The 2014 Midterms could then be the most spectacular Primary RINO season ever seen in American Politics …. with the Tea Party hunt led by Palin, Cruz and Demint

The goal would be both sides of Capitol Hill firmly in Constitutional Conservative hands, so that the problem of *The Phoney, AKA Usurper, AKA Charlatan” could be dealt with.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some help in the cleanout comes from a well-timed new document drop from Snowden, either …. a drop which not only damages the Phoney and the DEMs but also his GOP Neocon enablers …

#BeClingers —————-> #AmericaRISING

#WAR ———————–> #CrushROVE (in the 2014 primary cycle Patriots!)

exodus2011 on August 13, 2013 at 6:28 PM

gop leadership…..VILLAINS on Amnesty…..and traitors.

I vomit them out of my mouth.

PappyD61 on August 13, 2013 at 6:46 PM

The Moderate Republican Establishment are wusses. Period.

kingsjester on August 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Worse, they are Vichy republicans.

dogsoldier on August 13, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Obama won’t agree to delay implementation of the entire law. He needs the exchanges running ASAP so that people can start receiving subsidies. Once that happens, not even a Republican-dominated Congress will dare cancel the program. Depending upon how rickety the law looks in the fall, though — and it’s already looking pretty rickety — Republicans may have more bipartisan support than they do now for delaying major provisions, like the individual mandate. Once you start freezing key funding mechanisms like that, maybe the law looks unsustainably rickety next year and Democrats have no choice but to reach out to the GOP (including the new Republican Senate majority?) for an overhaul. That’s the endgame here for GOP leadership, I think.

They’re in for a big goddamn surprise. They fold on this, and there ain’t gonna be no Republican Senate majority. There won’t even be a Republican House majority for much longer, though by that time I doubt we’ll even notice.

Cylor on August 13, 2013 at 7:00 PM

I’m confident they won’t, too.

They don’t have the balls or the spine or the principles to do it. They will roll over and take it up the a$$ instead, as they always do.

F*ck the GOP. Dead party walking. I still might vote for Cruz if he doesn’t f*ck it up like the rest of them, but I will not – I promise you – vote for another GOP candidate until they prove they deserve it for a long f*cking time first.

Midas on August 13, 2013 at 8:52 PM

…are they sore yet?

KOOLAID2 on August 13, 2013 at 10:30 PM

To me, Boehner saying he’s confident the GOP won’t shut down the government over de-funding Obamacare is NOT a god thing. Based on past performance, to me that is Boehner warning Americans he does not have the b@lls to man up and hold his grud, that – like all the times before – he is going to end up caving and giving Obama whatever he wants.

easyt65 on August 13, 2013 at 11:42 PM