Rand Paul: Chris Christie’s denunciation was a “big mistake” for him

posted at 3:21 pm on August 13, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

The Chris Christie-Rand Paul throwdown may indeed be “played out,” as Norah O’Donnell suggests — but only for the moment. The 2016-contender shakeout over the Republican party’s platform isn’t going go away, and while Chris Christie has viable political logic for distinguishing his red-cred early and often, Rand Paul maintains that the out-of-hand dismissal of the GOP’s libertarian wing was a long-term wise move for neither Christie himself nor Republicans in general. Appealing to the youth contingent that so overwhelmingly voted for Obama in the past two elections is going to take some re-jiggering, and invasions of privacy are one very prominent way to hit home:

I think that was a big mistake for him. … Think about young people, and what young people are concerned with. We want young people to be able to come to the Republican party. They don’t have any money, so they’re not too concerned with taxes and regulations, but they all have a cell phone, and they’re all on the Internet, and they are concerned about their privacy. So I think the Republican party ought to be the party that is concerned with and wants to protect your right to privacy.


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When does Christie turn Dem and start holding a rainbow flag next to Carlos Danger?

Oil Can on August 13, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Romney won the white under 30 vote. Not the best reasoning for going libertarian.

Donald Draper on August 13, 2013 at 3:26 PM

However, internet freedom, etc is a winner.

Donald Draper on August 13, 2013 at 3:26 PM

The Round Mound of Sound is…..going down??

ToddPA on August 13, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Rand Paul needs to shut up. Because of his over-inflated ego — and, realistically, what politician doesn’t have one — I would never vote for him.

What we’re seeing here is a clash of egos. Not good for us, We the People, at all.

Assholes show themselves out all the time, usually by accident. Let them do it, the same way our trolls’ missiles invariably turn against them.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Rand Paul needs to shut up. Because of his over-inflated ego — and, realistically, what politician doesn’t have one — I would never vote for him.

What we’re seeing here is a clash of egos. Not good for us, We the People, at all.

Buttnuts show themselves out all the time, usually by accident. Let them do it, the same way our trolls’ missiles invariably turn against them.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM

be careful there Senator…Christie is sporting
a truck Tire lap band.

ToddPA on August 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM

I don’t want a populist or a party hack representing me.

I demand, at long last, a statesman.

I’ll debate the details, but our United States come first.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Because of his over-inflated ego — and, realistically, what politician doesn’t have one — I would never vote for him.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM

I take it, then, that you have never voted for a politician.

Interesting.

Bat Chain Puller on August 13, 2013 at 3:37 PM

I take it, then, that you have never voted for a politician.

Interesting.

Bat Chain Puller on August 13, 2013 at 3:37 PM

I was talking about a specific individual. You would oppose him, too.

It’s not my fault you didn’t get the point.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM

be careful there Senator…Christie is sporting
a truck Tire lap band.

ToddPA on August 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM

And it’s a retread.

Ward Cleaver on August 13, 2013 at 3:47 PM

I don’t agree with everything Paul says, but this is true:

So I think the Republican party ought to be the party that is concerned with and wants to protect your right to privacy.

In fact, I would expand it and make it even more libertarian.

The Republican party ought to be the party that is concerned with and wants to protect your individual rights and freedom.

Chris of Rights on August 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Haha. I must say that I genuinely like Paul as a person. I don’t agree with everything he says – I’m particularly opposed to his semi-isolationist tendencies – but he seems like a cool dude, I could hang with him.

If the primaries came down to Paul and Cruz, I’d have a tough time deciding. Both are really smart guys. Something you’ll never find on the Left.

Is it just me, or was that anchor chick flirting with him? And why is that fossil sitting next to her?

WhatSlushfund on August 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Another way for Republicans to attract younger voters is to tell them how much they’ll pay in taxes if retirement entitlements (Social Security, Medicare) are not reformed.

Rand Paul needs to shut up. Because of his over-inflated ego — and, realistically, what politician doesn’t have one — I would never vote for him.

What we’re seeing here is a clash of egos. Not good for us, We the People, at all.

Both Christie and Rand Paul need to stop sniping at each other. What plays well in Kentucky doesn’t play well in New Jersey, and vice versa, and each has to adapt his policy to the state he represents. Which of these two men might be better in a Presidential race can wait for the primaries in early 2016, and need not be discussed in public prior to the 2014 midterms.

Through no fault of his own, Rand Paul is not the best spokesman for any “libertarian” movement in the Senate. While Chris Christie is a self-made man, Rand Paul carries around the baggage of his last name, and the repeated failed Presidential runs of his crackpot dad. The more he snipes at fellow Republicans, the more he will remind voters of his father, while it would be to Rand Paul’s advantage to distance himself from his father.

Rand Paul would do better to concentrate now on listening to the people of Kentucky as to how to best represent them in the Senate, and work with Republican candidates for Senate seats currently held by Democrats who may be vulnerable in 2014.

Steve Z on August 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM

So I think the Republican party ought to be the party that is concerned with and wants to protect your right to privacy.

Chris of Rights on August 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM

The ‘right to privacy’ is a made-up ‘right’ by a liberal Supreme Court.

Griswold vs CT c1964 — Establishment of the ‘right to privacy’.

1972: Rose v Wade, based in part on Griswold.

Details, details…and truth; and history.

Liberals really hate all that.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 3:54 PM

My dream would be for the two parties to organize around Statism and anti-Statism. Unfortunately, both the Dems and GOP are parties of State power and control.

Clark1 on August 13, 2013 at 3:55 PM

The ‘right to privacy’ is a made-up ‘right’ by a liberal Supreme Court.

Liam on August 13, 2013 at 3:54 PM

That, and the fourth amendment.

Clark1 on August 13, 2013 at 3:55 PM

The biggest misconception is that the kids love Obama.

Romney, Mr Vanilla RINO, won every white demographic, including 18-29. So enough with this bogus meme.

The youngsters who did vote for Obama were overwhelmingly minority. Which will grow up to be older Dems. And never vote R.

kevinkristy on August 13, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Enter Mike Pence

Deafdog on August 13, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Steve Z on August 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Most excellent.

If John McLame had a “Stevie” like you on his 2008 staff I might think of him in the uniform again. His “Stevie” is now on MSNBC nonstop after the Sarah Palin hatchet film. Imagine that!

IlikedAUH2O on August 13, 2013 at 3:58 PM

be careful there Senator…Christie is sporting
a truck Tire lap band.

ToddPA on August 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM

And it’s a retread.

Ward Cleaver on August 13, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Nice!

ToddPA on August 13, 2013 at 4:00 PM

“I stand with Rand”, he is the only GOP politician that understands and has the ability to easily explain the importance of a reduced role of government in our lives. There may be a lot of politicians who would make better a president, but none have the clarity of what the ills of big government has done to the American society.

Tater Salad on August 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM

The HotAir formatting suddenly got LARGE

Coincidence? We think not.

ToddPA on August 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM

The HotAir formatting suddenly got LARGE

Coincidence? We think not.

ToddPA on August 13, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Noticed the same thing, I thought they were just trying to help all of us who need reading glasses.

Tater Salad on August 13, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Chris Christie sucks.

But it’s a great candidate for Rand/Cruz to debate to prepare for Clinton.

fatlibertarianinokc on August 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM

MEMO:To Christie Brigade:

From:

SarahCudian Special News Intell Squadrons:

Watch Your Back!

(Snark)

canopfor on August 13, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I hate that fat blowhard, Christie. Rand Paul is right about his shortsighted stupidity regarding younger voters, too. Libertarian positions on issues like he Fourth Amendment appeal to younger Americans and older Americans, who remember world history, and are shocked to see the US turn into today’s police state!

Chris Christie signed into law a sweeping gun control bill!

What conservative, in their right mind would vote for him?

mountainaires on August 13, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Romney won the white under 30 vote. Not the best reasoning for going libertarian.

Donald Draper on August 13, 2013 at 3:26 PM

LMAO – so you’re saying that all “young people” are white?

HondaV65 on August 13, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Romney won the white under 30 vote. Not the best reasoning for going libertarian.
Donald Draper on August 13, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I find that hard to believe, anybody got a stat? What I’ve seen shows a whole different tale..granted this shows all 18-29 instead of just non white, but my gut tells me there aren’t a large enough percentage of minorities to skew the numbers below as much as you claim above

http://www.statisticbrain.com/2012-presidential-voter-support-by-demographic/

Tim Zank on August 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Rand certainly likes to talk about himself.

thebrokenrattle on August 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

LMAO – so you’re saying that all “young people” are white?

HondaV65 on August 13, 2013 at 4:20 PM

No, I’m saying it’s a misnomer that the demographic Republicans are struggling with is age. That was the point Rand was making, and it isn’t entirely accurate. Savvy?

Donald Draper on August 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Rand Paul is right about privacy being an important issue for young people, as is civil liberties. They are sick and tired of people being in their business.

lea on August 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Rand Paul may be too idealistic for the reactionary wing of the GoP. He is a man of ideas based on fairly consistent reasoning. The SoCon wing of the GoP pick and choose issues to care about that are often philosophically at odds with each other. They usually want someone who agrees with them on a platform of social issues, often using gov’t to enforce their social positions on everyone.

Rand is a step away from gov’t interference in the private lives of individuals. The old guard of the GoP is so entrenched in cultural warfare that Rand doesn’t offer them much.

phadedjaded on August 13, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Rand Paul’s “youth vote” argument makes about as much sense as the ludicrous “Hispanic vote” argument that McCain and his ilk are making.

The Republican Party is not going to cure its ills by trying to make itself attractive to the type of people who think Edward Snowden is Jason Bourne.

Those people are leftists, and the libertarian position on national security is allied with the leftist position. We are talking about Occupy Wall Street types here: people who hate capitalism, hate big business, hate business period, and are worried about the government finding out about their illegially downloaded music, animal porn and tedious drug habits.

The only thing Rand Paul will do is help Democrats win again in 2014 and 2016.

When Hillary runs to the left of Obama on the NSA, which she will surely do, what’s Rand Paul going to do, agree with her?

Mr. Arkadin on August 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Rand Paul is the one making the big mistake. Christie is already staking out a position opposed to the one Hillary or whoever the Dem nominee is in 2016 will hold. The Dem will run against the Obama administration on this, run to the left, on national security, defense, domestic surveillance, etc.

Mr. Arkadin on August 13, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Nobody really believes that Chris Christie could become President….do they?! I mean, once you get past the MOUTH, what else does he have going for him?

ElectricPhase on August 13, 2013 at 5:04 PM

The youngsters who did vote for Obama were overwhelmingly minority. Which will grow up to be older Dems. And never vote R.

kevinkristy on August 13, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Maybe, maybe not. It depends upon whether or not they wake up to the fact that their sugar daddy socialists will shift soon the goodies to the new undocumented class of loyal voters, because the numbers are all they ever give a darn about.

Don L on August 13, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Nobody really believes that Chris Christie could become President….do they?! I mean, once you get past the MOUTH, what else does he have going for him?

ElectricPhase on August 13, 2013 at 5:04 PM

That’s exactly what rational people would have believed about the faux messiah….

Don L on August 13, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Romney won the white under 30 vote. Not the best reasoning for going libertarian.
Donald Draper on August 13, 2013 at 3:26 PM
I find that hard to believe, anybody got a stat? What I’ve seen shows a whole different tale..granted this shows all 18-29 instead of just non white, but my gut tells me there aren’t a large enough percentage of minorities to skew the numbers below as much as you claim above

http://www.statisticbrain.com/2012-presidential-voter-support-by-demographic/

Tim Zank on August 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/12/05/ann-coulter-america-nears-el-tipping-pointo/

I’m not going to look for the Pew report right now, but that should suffice.

Donald Draper on August 13, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Tim Zank on August 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Also, your link is only for 9 battleground states while I’m speaking nationally.

Donald Draper on August 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM

We want young people to be able to come to the Republican party. They don’t have any money, so they’re not too concerned with taxes and regulations, but they all have a cell phone, and they’re all on the Internet, and they are concerned about their privacy.

unfortunately, this is true.

rndmusrnm on August 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM

My dream would be for the two parties to organize around Statism and anti-Statism.

Clark1 on August 13, 2013 at 3:55 PM

We did that. It was called the American Civil War.

Happy Nomad on August 13, 2013 at 6:37 PM

We want young people to be able to come to the Republican party. They don’t have any money, so they’re not too concerned with taxes and regulations, but they all have a cell phone, and they’re all on the Internet, and they are concerned about their privacy.

unfortunately, this is true.

rndmusrnm on August 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Why is this unfortunate? I call it opportunity. Young people who are unconcerned with taxes and regulations eventually do find themselves in a place where both matter (unless the rat-eared commie has his way). Treat them and their issues with respect now and they will stay for the tax talk.

Happy Nomad on August 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM

We did that. It was called the American Civil War.

Happy Nomad on August 13, 2013 at 6:37 PM

If that is so, the wrong side won…

JohnGalt23 on August 13, 2013 at 7:58 PM

If that is so, the wrong side won…

JohnGalt23 on August 13, 2013 at 7:58 PM

You may be right. Most all of the leading socialists/communists involved in the 18 major revolts in Europe in 1848 emigrated to the United States, became teachers, politicians and lawyers, and all went into the Republican party, the party of big government. Many served in the Union Army, mostly as officers, all the way to major general.

See:

“Fires in the Minds of Men” by the current Librarian of Congress, James Billington,

and

“Red Republicans and Lincoln’s Marxists: Marxism in the Civil War” by Kennedy and Benson

Even Lincoln’s Assistant Secretary of War, Charles Dana, was an avowed communist/socialist.

Falcon46 on August 13, 2013 at 9:42 PM

As Gutfeld said, those two should do a cop show and call it “Curly and Tubbs.”

John the Libertarian on August 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM

…Abbott and Costello

KOOLAID2 on August 13, 2013 at 10:02 PM

The Republican Party is not going to cure its ills by trying to make itself attractive to the type of people who think Edward Snowden is Jason Bourne.
Those people are leftists, and the libertarian position on national security is allied with the leftist position. We are talking about Occupy Wall Street types here: people who hate capitalism, hate big business, hate business period, and are worried about the government finding out about their illegially downloaded music, animal porn and tedious drug habits.
The only thing Rand Paul will do is help Democrats win again in 2014 and 2016.
When Hillary runs to the left of Obama on the NSA, which she will surely do, what’s Rand Paul going to do, agree with her?
Mr. Arkadin on August 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM

What a load of manure. I am grateful that Edward Snowden did what he did and I would gladly put my conservative policy positions up against a squish that supports Christie.

iwasbornwithit on August 13, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Through no fault of his own, Rand Paul is not the best spokesman for any “libertarian” movement in the Senate. While Chris Christie is a self-made man…

Steve Z on August 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Exactly why do you think Chris Christie is a “self-made man” when he was just a lobbyist who used that connection to get appointed US Attorney? Rand Paul actually ran a practice as a medical professional.

tetriskid on August 13, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Ron Paul just reminded us of where Rand Paul got his genes. Sad.

unclesmrgol on August 14, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Enter Mike Pence

Deafdog on August 13, 2013 at 3:58 PM

You must be kidding. Other than running for Governor as Mitch Daniels “Mini-Me” (diffictult to do, I know), Pence ran on nothing other than Mitch’s fumes. And he hasn’t done much with it once he got it.

Carnac on August 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM