Video: MSNBC now using “R-word” in place of “Redskins”

posted at 5:41 pm on August 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Corner. Is this a network-wide policy or is it just Maddow setting the rules for her own show? You’d think MSNBC executives might want a team huddle to decide before their 9 p.m. host implicitly pronounces everyone else on the payroll who uses the term “Redskins” guilty of “painfully racist” language. Turns out the YouKnowWhatsits play twice in primetime on sister network NBC this fall and I’m pretty sure “R-word” ain’t going to cut it in the booth. Time to boycott “Sunday Night Football”?

But never mind that. This is valuable as an illustration of what I wrote about at the end of Friday’s post, particularly Maddow’s roll call of lefty sites like Mother Jones and TNR who’ve suddenly decided after decades of usage that “Redskins” is no longer appropriate. Liberal media is having its own team huddle about the propriety of “Redskins” with an eye to manufacturing a new norm for liberals and Democrats. It’ll be fascinating to watch it enforced against unsuspecting pols like Obama, who’ll say something absentmindedly cheery in an interview about RGIII hopefully leading the Redskins to the Super Bowl this year and then be caught by surprise by the grumbling in otherwise favorable news outlets. He’ll learn his lesson; in a few years, Democratic politicians will train themselves to refer only to “Washington” when discussing the local franchise. And then, once Democratic unanimity is more or less achieved, Republicans who continue to use the term will be branded racist. The Overton window will move on this. The question is how long it’ll take, and whether too much grumbling at first will produce a backlash. Remember how the NYT under Howell Raines decided to take up the cause of admitting women members at Augusta? It did happen — but not until 10 years later, on Augusta’s terms, long after the fire the Times tried to set had burned out. I think that’s how the ‘Skins will handle it too. They won’t bow to political correctness under intense pressure, but down the road, after everyone’s chosen sides between “Redskins” and “R-words” and the issue’s quieted down, they’ll change the name.


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Maybe we should eliminate all words, and just communicate with each other using clicks and grunts.

How long would it be before somebody on MSNBC found something raaaaacist in one of the grunts?

AZCoyote on August 12, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Rachel, dear,so when we talk about you, can we just call you the “C-word?”

john1schn on August 12, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Awww, I always miss the good threads.

I have an excuse though, I was getting one of my children’s name changed to Messiah Redskin.

Bishop on August 12, 2013 at 8:46 PM

just use the words they use in the locker room……

ted c on August 12, 2013 at 8:48 PM

she’s a D-word isn’t she??

ted c on August 12, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Well since you insist on threads like this you asked for it—Next MSNBC will change the name of biting mites called “chiggers” to “chegroes”.

MaiDee on August 12, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Maybe we should eliminate all words, and just communicate with each other using clicks and grunts.

AZCoyote on August 12, 2013 at 8:35 PM

I take it you don’t text much. We’re practically there already, OMG! IMHO of course BTW.

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 12, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Pretty soon “J-Word” might be the new R-Word, which is the new N-Word.

You never know, these days.

Akzed on August 12, 2013 at 8:55 PM

The Team That Shall Be Unmentioned

ted c on August 12, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Pretty soon “J-Word” might be the new R-Word, which is the new N-Word.

You never know, these days.

Akzed on August 12, 2013 at 8:55 PM

And don’t forget the “Z-Word”. That’s a big no-no in PC Newspeak.

The terrorists who committed these acts are enemies of Islam and a shared enemy of the United States,

Wow, thanks for that link. I wonder if Faux News will touch that with a ten-foot pole?

Dr. ZhivBlago on August 12, 2013 at 9:09 PM

So then I demand that they change the name of Ritz C-words. Oh, and the H-word-tonk Man has to change his name as well. Hall of Famer W-word Ford should also change his name.

DethMetalCookieMonst on August 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Make it stop.

2Tru2Tru on August 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Would they also say “gers?”

redshirt on August 12, 2013 at 6:37 PM

“Groids”

Suck it.

Solaratov on August 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM

They’re really reaching the bottom of the barrel if this is what comprises riveting news and commentary for MSNBC.

tpitman on August 12, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Just put one of them red potatoes on the side of the helmet.

joeswampy on August 12, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Please, enough of this PC wordplay. There is nothing wrong with the term/word Redskins in the context that the Washington NFL team is using it …………. period. I am far more concerned with the use of steroids in professional and college sports.

SC.Charlie on August 12, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Is this a network-wide policy or is it just Maddow setting the rules for her own show?

The real question is… does anyone with a functional IQ greater than 70 actually care ?

elgeneralisimo on August 12, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Pretty soon “J-Word” might be the new R-Word, which is the new N-Word.
You never know, these days.

Akzed on August 12, 2013 at 8:55 PM

So, do we have a “-word” for every letter of the alphabet yet?
English is hard enough; I don’t think I can get used to this non-word word language.

dentarthurdent on August 12, 2013 at 10:24 PM

I am far more concerned with the use of steroids in professional and college sports.

SC.Charlie on August 12, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Ya me too.
I think it would be a lot more fun to watch teams of Hulks vs Hydes, in any sport….

dentarthurdent on August 12, 2013 at 10:26 PM

‘Hey, look at me and see how politically correct and sensitive I am.’

Have the Redskins ever even been mentioned on her show before now? I’m guessing not.

supernova on August 12, 2013 at 10:26 PM

And all along I was thinking “Washington” was the offensive word.

can_con on August 12, 2013 at 10:32 PM

The Team That Shall Be Unmentioned

ted c on August 12, 2013 at 9:04 PM

How about “The Team Formerly Known as the Redskins”?

BuckeyeSam on August 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Next up – Missouri R-Word clowns

RSbrewer on August 12, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Change it to “Injuns”.

EddieC on August 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM

So, when will the media go after the Chicago Blackhawks? As a Red Wings fan, that would make me laugh a little..deep down. I do not actually want to see them ever have to change their name or logo, as that would be awful for a number of reasons. However, there is a part of me that would laugh a little.

Pattosensei on August 12, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Change it to “Injuns”.

EddieC on August 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I thought Cleveland already had that one.

Oldnuke on August 12, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Over heard in a recent MSNBC editorial board meeting… HONEST!…

Hey! I know how to improve our abysmal ratings. Lets piss off half of our viewers by insulting their favorite NFL team.

WestTexasBirdDog on August 12, 2013 at 11:46 PM

That Maddow guy is a retard. Oops, I mean “R-Word”.

CVMA-Dredd on August 12, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Definitely the ‘L-word’

mouell on August 13, 2013 at 12:27 AM

she’s a D-word isn’t she??

ted c on August 12, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Douchebag

Bubba Redneck on August 13, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Definitely the ‘L-word’

mouell on August 13, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Well no guy with more than two brain cells will be placing his sword in that scabbard.

Bubba Redneck on August 13, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Make it stop.

2Tru2Tru on August 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Press the OFF button on your remote.

Shy Guy on August 13, 2013 at 1:17 AM

Awww, I always miss the good threads.

I have an excuse though, I was getting one of my children’s name changed to Messiah Redskin.

Bishop on August 12, 2013 at 8:46 PM

.
Wait ! …… Chicago Jesus – is a way more cool sounding name -
- and also, Jr. will be spared all the ” potato ” jokes.

FlaMurph on August 13, 2013 at 2:16 AM

Keep the name and change the logo to an obviously Western European red head with an severe sunburn.

{^_^}

herself on August 13, 2013 at 2:52 AM

Video: MSNBC now using “R-word” in place of “Redskins”

Hahahah…Yet another example of how the arrogant media attempts to control YOUR behavior…and they ALL do it in insidious ways (FOX too)

Just like you dropped the daily delivery of the “newspaper”…Suggest you also drop cable TV !! DON’T EMPOWER THESE MEDIA TWITS !! There are so many more options theses days.

BigSven has dropped cable TV, and life is much better…do not miss it at all!!

BigSven on August 13, 2013 at 3:14 AM

As a member of the Cherokee Nation, I always thought it to be an honor to have an NFL team called the Washington Redskins.

The symbol the team uses appears to be from an Iroqouis Nation time period of about the late 1700′s (French and Indian War).

I find it insulting that a “white” woman would decide to take it upon herself to speak for Native Americans.

Cherokee on August 13, 2013 at 7:59 AM

Maybe we should eliminate all words, and just communicate with each other using clicks and grunts.

AZCoyote on August 12, 2013 at 8:35 PM

No, that would be offensive to the bushmen in Africa, whose language has often been referred to as “click.” You’re a racist for even suggesting it. I’m telling Rachel.

Pope Linus on August 13, 2013 at 8:32 AM

MSNBC is the middle school newsletter of broadcast journalism. This is no more than a juvenile stunt meant to deflect attention from their boyfriend’s miserable failures both domestically and abroad. I doubt even half of her three dozen viewers gives a rip what Madcow thinks.

RobertE on August 13, 2013 at 9:27 AM

M*** Diver

RandallinHerndon on August 13, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Definitely the ‘L-word’

mouell on August 13, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Lezboiberal?

RandallinHerndon on August 13, 2013 at 9:50 AM

So, when will the media go after the Chicago Blackhawks? As a Red Wings fan, that would make me laugh a little..deep down. I do not actually want to see them ever have to change their name or logo, as that would be awful for a number of reasons. However, there is a part of me that would laugh a little.

Pattosensei on August 12, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Blackhawks is a two-fer. That name is offensive to indians native americans, as well as to african americans.

RandallinHerndon on August 13, 2013 at 9:52 AM

She thought their name was the foreskins.

That was enough to make her wince and gag.

acyl72 on August 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Good God, I would hate to hear what she thinks of the “Colts”

RandallinHerndon on August 13, 2013 at 10:00 AM

For once I am cheering for the liberals to get their way. Suppose Dems get their way and football teams have to change their names, and we end up boycotting the next Olympics because of PC mentality run amok. I wonder how Dems will be polling in 2016 after that. Maybe the low info voters will finally wake up…

bitsy on August 13, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Blackhawks is a two-fer. That name is offensive to indians native americans, as well as to african americans.

RandallinHerndon on August 13, 2013 at 9:52 AM

…and to certain birds of prey.

freedomfirst on August 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM

If a bear takes a $#!* on the set of MSNBC and nobody is there to watch it, does it make a sound when it falls? [sic]

FloatingRock on August 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Yes, because the Morning Dump, Joe and Mika, were still talking this morning.

RandallinHerndon on August 13, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Blackhawks is a two-fer. That name is offensive to indians native americans, as well as to african americans.

RandallinHerndon on August 13, 2013 at 9:52 AM

…and to certain birds of prey.

freedomfirst on August 13, 2013 at 10:10 AM

HOLY S-WORD!!!! Grab the pitchforks!!!

RandallinHerndon on August 13, 2013 at 10:22 AM

A couple of years ago some of the people of Greek island of Lesbos went to court because they were offended by the use of the word Lesbian being used to describe homosexual women. I wonder if Ms. Maddow has an opinion on that issue?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7376919.stm

SC.Charlie on August 13, 2013 at 10:42 AM

If the owner of the Skins was PR savvy, he’d surround himself with American Indian Chiefs of the indigenous tribes in the DC area and have a presser with them standing before a set of microphones decrying the attack on the team name and wrap it up with the chiefs defiantly saying “Back off this, its insulting what you are doing”. Put the aholes on the run, don’t sit around while the left pulls this crap on you.

44Magnum on August 13, 2013 at 10:46 AM

If the owner of the Skins was PR savvy, he’d surround himself with American Indian Chiefs of the indigenous tribes in the DC area and have a presser with them standing before a set of microphones decrying the attack on the team name and wrap it up with the chiefs defiantly saying “Back off this, its insulting what you are doing”. Put the aholes on the run, don’t sit around while the left pulls this crap on you. – 44Magnum on August 13, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Not a bad idea. The owner could also fund an American Indian museum within the Redskins stadium, honoring the American Indian. The museum should tell the truth about the how bad the politicians in Washington were in keeping their word in treaties that they signed with Indian nations. I grew up in the age when the phrase “Indian keeper” meant that you didn’t keep your word.

SC.Charlie on August 13, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Maybe Rachel should decide which sex she wants to be before she moves on to other matters.

DeweyWins on August 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM

I wonder where Mr. Maddow stands on the USMA (West Point) using the nickname Black Knights.

diogenes on August 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM

It makes sense, old terms become inappropriate and must be changed or all those who allow it should be shunned.

Like the NAACP, they must change their name now. No we don’t consider brand name familiarity an issue… “Colored People” is racist and cannot be allowed. Change it or suffer the liberal boycott!

Oh, it can be allowed and liberals won’t push to change that one?

Weird… it’s like liberals get a pass on all these liberal rules. It’s almost like they don’t consider their own rules real, but just a reason to attack any non-liberals.

If you don’t take your own idiocy seriously in a uniform manner, why would anyone take you seriously?

gekkobear on August 13, 2013 at 12:19 PM

What’s all the fuss about, when blonde and blue-eyed Senator Liz Warren down in R-word town is so proud to be a fifth-generation Cherokee? At least it got her into Hahvid!

And if the Washington R-words win a game against the Kansas City C-words, will it be considered insubordination?

If the Washington R-words win against the Dallas C-words, will it be revenge against what the C-words did to the R-words in the 19th century? And if the Dallas C-words play the Kansas City C-words, how do we know who won?

In order not to insult our friendly neighbors of Scandinavian descent, the Minnesota V-words need to change their name.

This trend could even affect other sports, such as baseball, where the Cleveland I-words are called the Tribe by sportswriters, or the San Diego P-words can be insulting to Hispanics.

Or even the hockey players from Obamaland, who are called Black Hawks, but why do they wear a guy with a feathered headdress on their jerseys, who looks a lot like the guy on the R-words’ helmets?

Steve Z on August 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Daniel Snyder needs to host a Pow wow on the 50 yrd line in the Redskins stadium and invite the public and press.

44Magnum on August 13, 2013 at 1:16 PM

It makes sense, old terms become inappropriate and must be changed or all those who allow it should be shunned.

Like the NAACP, they must change their name now. No we don’t consider brand name familiarity an issue… “Colored People” is racist and cannot be allowed. Change it or suffer the liberal boycott!

Oh, it can be allowed and liberals won’t push to change that one?

Weird… it’s like liberals get a pass on all these liberal rules. It’s almost like they don’t consider their own rules real, but just a reason to attack any non-liberals.

If you don’t take your own idiocy seriously in a uniform manner, why would anyone take you seriously?

gekkobear on August 13, 2013 at 12:19 PM

You left out the United NEGRO College Fund. And, of course the far right anti-gay crowd is still mad about homosexuals hijacking the word GAY. As we all know, you can’t please everyone.

SC.Charlie on August 13, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Yep, using the word Negr@ sends you comment into moderation. We’ve got word police on HotAir.

SC.Charlie on August 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Sportswriter Woody Paige had this nailed years ago.

He wrote them out as the “Washington Racist Nicknames.”

Meremortal on August 13, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Progressives are notorious for glomming on to anything traditionally American, in this case an NFL team, and ruining it. This situation is no different. Progressives had no hand in the building of America and its rise in the 19th & 20th century to an industrial superpower, yet see it as something they should control and reshape into something they believe to be their own. They are parasites.

long_cat on August 13, 2013 at 2:47 PM

How fast can we change Ms. Rache Madow’s name to sounds like “Raging Madcow”

MSGTAS on August 13, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Really what is more insulting for the players of the team, being called Redskins or being associated with Washington, DC? I would think the latter would be more insulting.

SC.Charlie on August 13, 2013 at 3:38 PM

She’s the R-word.

Ronnie on August 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I was thinking C-word.

cableguy615 on August 13, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Cleveland baseball fans: you are next.

Joe Mama on August 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Then Atlanta Braves, then they move on to NHL , Chicago Black Hawks.

cableguy615 on August 13, 2013 at 7:01 PM

She’s the R-word.

Ronnie on August 12, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I was thinking C-word.

cableguy615 on August 13, 2013 at 6:57 PM

So, when is it going to become illegal or at least un-PC to say “c-word”, “n-word”, “p-word”, or “a-word” – because – well people supposedly know what you really mean when you say that, so saying that should be just as offensive….

That’s the next step I tell ya…..

dentarthurdent on August 13, 2013 at 9:33 PM

MSNBC now using “R-word” in place of “Redskins”

I guess we should begin using “B-word network” in place of “MSNBC”!!

landlines on August 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Pretty soon “J-Word” might be the new R-Word, which is the new N-Word.

You never know, these days.

Akzed on August 12, 2013 at 8:55 PM

PC VIOLATION!!!! ->>>You are using a EURO-CENTRIC ALPHABET!!!

What about Katakana, Cyrillic, Chinese, Greek, etc???

This is obviously EURO-CENTRIC RACISM!!!

/Simulated_Liberal_Mental_Illness>

landlines on August 14, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Looks like it’s time for Indiana to change it’s name to Hoosierland

Ibanez Lotus on August 14, 2013 at 9:32 PM

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