Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on August 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

House Republicans may not pass an immigration bill before the end of the year, but that doesn’t mean the reform effort is dead. The August recess provides immigration-reform activists the opportunity to mobilize support from their activists. Several pro-immigration groups are already preparing to target dozens of House Republicans who may be amenable to some form of legislation providing citizenship for undocumented immigrants…

[I]t will take more than House inaction to kill the immigration-reform effort that received a jolt of momentum after the Senate passed a wide-ranging bill in June. In 2006, when the Senate passed a similar immigration bill, House Republicans rebelled and staged a series of hearings during August to decry the bill. The next year, the Senate took up immigration reform again. It wasn’t until that legislation died in the Senate in the summer of 2007 that the House opponents could rest easy. This year, Republicans are still concerned about alienating Hispanic voters, who overwhelmingly voted Democratic in 2012, in the next presidential election.

“The most credible information I’ve heard is that they want to find out in August what people think,” Noorani said. “If they come out of August saying, ‘That was a wash,’ we win.”

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House Republicans head home for the August break having done little to pass immigration reform, falling well short of Speaker John Boehner’s goal of voting on legislation before next week’s monthlong recess begins. But far from a failure of leadership, top House Republicans are casting the inaction as a tactical play designed to boost reform’s chances.

Keeping immigration on the back-burner helps avoid a recess filled with angry town-hall meetings reminiscent of the heated August 2009 protests where the backlash against health care reform coalesced. Doing nothing also starves Democrats of a target, Republicans argue.

“August was a central part of our discussions. People don’t want to go home and get screamed at,” a House GOP leadership aide said.

Instead, they’ll go home and talk about the need to stop government overreach, trying to draw voters’ attention back to the now largely dormant IRS controversy and the dismantling of Obamacare, a message that plays well with the Republican base.

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In response to a question at a town hall event this week, Rep. Aaron Schock (R-IL) suggested that a majority of House Republicans support granting amnesty through a GOP version of the DREAM Act to young illegal aliens who were brought to America as minors by their parents…

“They’re going to move one bill after another dealing with all the various issues that were contained in the Senate bill,” Schock said to the town hall, as seen in video posted on YouTube. “So first, the border security bill should be the first bill that moves in the House. I think that’s going to be an easy bill to pass. It passed out of the Homeland Security Committee with almost unanimous support. Almost every Republican and Democrat on Homeland Security voted for the House border security bill. I think that will pass the House and I think that’s a done deal and that’s done with. Then, you’re going to deal with your high-tech visas and your ag visa worker programs. I think, again, you’re going to get overwhelming bipartisan support on those provisions. I don’t know what the final language is going to look like.”…

“Then you’re going to have a third bill which is going to deal with your DREAM Act kids, those who were brought here illegally by their parents,” Schock said. “I think, again, you’re going to get a bipartisan vote on a House version of the DREAM Act.”

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) expressed little optimism that any piecemeal immigration measures passed in the House will make their way to a conference committee with the Senate…

“I’m afraid even though they passed these things piecemeal, they won’t allow their members to go to conference,” Reid said in a KNPR interview…

“If we go to conference, we will win,” he said. “In a public debate, it is easy. We would win that easy.”

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A version of the DREAM Act is — tentatively called the Kids Act — being drafted by Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) and Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-TX). If that passes, Democrats may be willing to go to conference and expand the pathway there…

[T]here House Republicans would be marginalized. A final product would simply need the support of a majority of conferees from each chamber in order to get floor votes in the House and Senate. All Democrats would stand firm for a broader citizenship component for all 11 million undocumented immigrants, and enough Republicans, particularly in the Senate where 14 of them voted for the policy, would probably go along with them. A bill similar to the Senate version would easily pass the House with mostly Democratic votes.

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“The outcome has to be comprehensive immigration reform,” [Jay] Carney told reporters. “How we get from here to there in the House is an open question,” he said, reversing prior demands for House passage of a single large, or comprehensive, rewrite…

Carney’s statement fueled suspicions by conservatives and immigration-reform advocates that GOP leaders are colluding with White House leaders, progressives and business groups to draft a major bill during a closed-door conference of Senate and House legislators in September and October…

It is not clear how much of the Democrat-led Senate bill would be acceptable to GOP leaders during a joint conference.

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The fix is in. And remember, once this bill arrives in the Senate, we all know that Mitch McConnell will work in the shadows to ensure that McCain and Graham adulterate the House bills with amnesty, albeit without his fingerprints on the deal.

So just in case you thought that Republicans would be spending the August recess plotting how to hang Obamacare around the necks of the Democrats, think again. They are plotting how to distract the public from Obamacare and join with Schumer to pass amnesty.

It’s becoming clear that the powers that be within the national party are beckoning for a new base of voters. It’s incumbent upon us to search for new elected Republican leaders.

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Once the Gang of 8 bill cleared the Senate, the best hope of blocking it was to delay House consideration until after the August recess, when the Republican grass roots could attend town halls and drive home that they’d oppose any backsliding from their elected Representatives. At the same time, it became clear that the amnesty-friendly GOP House leadership realized that the way to sneak amnesty through was to not talk about it, lest those grass roots get riled up. Hence, the Boehner “piecemeal” strategy–nothing to see here, just a few little bills!

Into this void stepped Cruz, who made a bold attempt to rouse a “grassroots army” for the cause of … defunding Obamacare. So instead of haranguing their members about unchecked immigration, hard core red-staters would harangue them about the Democrats’ health care plans. Cruz’s strategy had no hope of actually defunding Obamacare,. By attempting to shut down the government over the issue it had a much greater chance of reviving Democratic fortunes. (I thought Republicans had learned from the past two or three times this tactic failed).

And it might wind up giving us amnesty. Democrats are secretly delighted, of course: with the Tea Partiers distracted, fence-sitting Reps might have enough breathing room in the fall to sneak some kind of mass legalization through–maybe not a full “path to citizenship” for everyone, but Dems could go back and fix that later, once the millions of illegals had been given legal status.

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I doubt even these GOP leaders themselves know what they’re going to do in the coming months, or maybe even what they want to end up with. But it’s clear they face pressure to pass a legalization bill–and that the pressure is internal, not external. If they let amnesty come to a vote, it won’t be because La Raza stages 360 events or Frank Sharry chains himself to the White House fence. It will be because big Republican donors, businessmen and consultants are whispering in their ears. The only force stopping them, on the other hand, is external: fear of a rebellion by the GOP caucus. And the main thing driving such a rebellion would be intense opposition from GOP voters back home.

If those voters seem to care–as polls show they do–legalization can be blocked. If not, it will go through. It’s that simple…

Nor is this a debate we’ll necessarily have, year after year, until an amnesty passes. If the Republican base holds firm, blocks legalization and Republicans still do well in the 2014 elections (as expected), it seems entirely possible that the next immigration reform debate will center on a different approach–securing the border first, and only then planning legalization. That’s unacceptable to Democrats now, but it doesn’t have to be–if the right people show up at town halls in August.

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Via Gallup.

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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s advocacy group unveiled a new ad pro-immigration reform ad yesterday that caps off a busy week of activities for FWD.us…

FWD.us, which is backed by the major players in the technology industry, is pushing for reform that includes the DREAM Act, which creates a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children…

“We are running this ad to put a very human face on our broken immigration system,” said FWD.us President Joe Green, who co-founded FWD.us with Zuckerberg, in a statement. “We hope that by showing Americans the cost of this broken system and the contributions people like Alejandro are already making, they will join with us in supporting real reform.”


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Schadenfreude on August 12, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Why I’m PROUD to be from MISSOURI:

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/08/11/4404230/clowns-obama-stunt-at-missouri.html

williamg on August 12, 2013 at 1:34 AM

haha

I am not from MO, but I often feel I should be – “Show-Me” fits me to a T! :)

Missouri – “Sunshine Girl”

Anti-Control on August 12, 2013 at 1:45 AM

arnold ziffel on August 12, 2013 at 1:39 AM

Thumbs up..John Prine and Emmylou Harris are treasures as Folk Song writers and singers..:)

Dire Straits on August 12, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Schadenfreude on August 12, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Are you still here?..:)

Dire Straits on August 12, 2013 at 2:02 AM

“I don’t know of another bill which has support from Evangelicals, Labor, The Chamber of Commerce, you name it, everybody like this one does.”

He needs to look at the polls in favor of the repeal of Obamacare and at all of the groups that have called for its repeal. It most certainly has more support than the amnesty bill which he is trying to push through.

Theophile on August 12, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Are you still here?..:)

Dire Straits on August 12, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Just got back. I was perusing the other threads.

Schadenfreude on August 12, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Schadenfreude pure

Schadenfreude on August 12, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Schadenfreude on August 12, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Do you have any info on how a “thread” we left last night in a good place became “overrun” by “conspiracy kooks” and “black helicopter folks”????!!!??..:):)

Dire Straits on August 12, 2013 at 2:16 AM

Dire Straits on August 12, 2013 at 2:16 AM

:) No idea

Nite Dire

Schadenfreude on August 12, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Schadenfreude on August 12, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Good answer..:)

Dire Straits on August 12, 2013 at 2:24 AM

amnesty here we come
/

cripe

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 6:26 AM

ot:lsm still refuse to use democrat and filner in the same sentence

hypocrites

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 6:29 AM

morning joe and politico finally talking about booker and his financial issues…

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 6:34 AM

Good Morning, Patriots!
“Amnesty and the Economy: A Juan Valdez Overload” Too many pickers. Not enough coffee beans. My take.

kingsjester on August 12, 2013 at 6:41 AM

kingsjester on August 12, 2013 at 6:41 AM

excellent take KJ…the 4 issues are spot bloody on…

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 6:46 AM

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 6:46 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on August 12, 2013 at 6:48 AM

war on terror is a terrible phrase
-mj talking head

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 6:51 AM

The GOP: Working hard to reward criminals!

Valkyriepundit on August 12, 2013 at 6:54 AM

war on terror is a terrible phrase
-mj talking head

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 6:51 AM

What should we call it, then — international tiddly-winks?

Liberals are getting crazier and crazier trying to redefine everything.

Liam on August 12, 2013 at 7:03 AM

Liam on August 12, 2013 at 7:03 AM

indeed

mj crew bashing reince because of fox making the nbc hilary movie
‘you have your cake and eat it too’
-mika

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 7:04 AM

mj crew still harping that gop will rue the day not having their primaries on the lsm and yet had no problem with dems boycotting fox during their primaries

shut up-enough

talk about benghazi or the irs for a change

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 7:08 AM

Go ahead GOP.I dare you.There are enough of us left to destroy you.We will stay home in 2014 and 2016 and bring you down.

redware on August 12, 2013 at 7:17 AM

mj crew still harping that gop will rue the day not having their primaries on the lsm and yet had no problem with dems boycotting fox during their primaries

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 7:08 AM

I don’t think a single mind is changed watching primary debates. I really don’t care what liberals like the MJ crew think about Republican politics. It isn’t like a bunch of liberals inclined to vote for Anthony Weiner or Filthy Filner are going to decide to vote for Cruz or Paul on the basis of a primary debate.

Happy Nomad on August 12, 2013 at 7:22 AM

Happy Nomad on August 12, 2013 at 7:22 AM

apparently they have nothing better to talk about right now
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cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 7:34 AM

The MSM have to keep pushing the narrative hard as they can, especially now. There are so many scandals under Obama the media are afraid people might start paying genuine attention for once. Add in the impending disaster of Obamacare, and the next one of amnesty, and the whole Democrat Party might come under scrutiny. That can’t be allowed.

Liam on August 12, 2013 at 7:47 AM

Liam
No indeed

I want them to own this entire boondoggle of an adminstration

Are people really going to vote for Hillary after 8 years of this crapola

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 7:54 AM

There are so many scandals under Obama the media are afraid people might start paying genuine attention for once. Add in the impending disaster of Obamacare, and the next one of amnesty, and the whole Democrat Party might come under scrutiny. That can’t be allowed.

Liam on August 12, 2013 at 7:47 AM

Lawyer for on of the Benghazi whistleblowers on local talk radio this morning. Made the claim that over 400 missiles went missing during that spontaneous attack over a YouTube video. Target is essentially planes.

But, forget about all that. Let’s talk about GOP primaries that are three years off.

Happy Nomad on August 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Oh yeah HN

Crickets

cmsinaz on August 12, 2013 at 7:57 AM

I don’t think a single mind is changed watching primary debates.
Happy Nomad on August 12, 2013 at 7:22 AM

I disagree. A disastrous performance can destroy a candidate. Just ask Rick Perry. His “oops” moment and “have no heart” comment did him in. Also, Newt benefitted greatly from his debating. Mitt was always steady and never faltered.

bluegill on August 12, 2013 at 8:44 AM

A Ruling class bought and paid for by Big business interests.

Both parties, Progressive led, Crony focused, willing to sell out our sovereign nation and it’s borders for 30 pieces of silver from the likes of Wall Street interests, The Chamber of Commerce, La Raza (which isn’t that name completely intolerant and racist?), and assorted other business and political groups.

….and helped along by a lazy American electorate.

Hello Socialist States of North America.

PappyD61 on August 12, 2013 at 8:59 AM

One who betrays one’s country, a cause, or a trust

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/traitor

Would being unwilling to defend this nations’ borders fall into one of those items listed above?

PappyD61 on August 12, 2013 at 9:01 AM

US built by immigrants alright–legal ones who came to live a different life, a new life, free to practice their religion and own property without kings. dictators or power freak governments on their back.

Don L on August 12, 2013 at 9:30 AM

bluegill on August 12, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Missed debate # 3 did ya gilled one? Mitt was so busy agreeing with 0, not much else was covered. Of course you had your little fish blinders on, so………….

Bmore on August 12, 2013 at 9:35 AM

All my grandparents were immigrants from Germany, England and Canada. They all helped build America as did every other immigrant around that time (late 1890′s). The biggest difference is they did not have or use any government assistance in the process…no welfare, no free medical care (for all the children they birthed), no free education (beyond the 8th grade) and no food stamps. So take away all these goodies and see how many of our illegals leave. Oh by the way my grandparents from Germany learned English and told their children (all eight of them) they need to know English to get good jobs and to prosper in America.

GNPSTL on August 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM

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