Hawt Dem on Dem action in the war on coal

posted at 10:01 am on August 10, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Who doesn’t love a good bout of Blue v Blue cage match sweetness? You might think that with a divided Congress and a Presidential agenda which is essentially stalled, the Democrats on The Hill would be circling the wagons and presenting the best united front they can manage. (And to be fair, they do manage it on a few topics.) But it’s not quite such an easy job to herd those cats when the subject comes to energy and jobs.

Example The First comes to us from West Virginia, where we find a Democrat joining forces with the GOP to put a leash on Obama’s EPA.

West Virginia is joining two other states that are seeking to challenge federal rules governing greenhouse gas emissions.
Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin and Attorney General Patrick Morrisey announced Friday the state has filed a friend of the court brief asking the U.S. Supreme Court to hear a challenge to Environmental Protection Agency rules. The rules would allow the federal government to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from stationary sources.

West Virginia Democratic Rep. Nick Rahall also put his John Hancock on a letter denouncing the administration for its “War on Coal” this year. He wasn’t the only one, either. Tim Kaine did the same.

None of that matches the delicious nature of our final entry, though. West Virginia’s Democratic Party announced a couple of weeks ago that it would march on Washington to protest the administration’s coal regulations.

Democratic Leaders Traveling to Washington to Defend Coal

CHARLESTON, W.V. – Today Democratic Party Chairman Larry Puccio, Senate President Jeff Kessler, and House Speaker Tim Miley announced that they will be traveling to Washington on August 1, 2013 to meet with EPA officials and members of the current administration. Along with Senators Jay Rockefeller and Joe Manchin and Congressman Nick Rahall they will lead a delegation of Democratic legislators and business and labor leaders to help protect and support WV hardworking families and coal miners.

Chairman Puccio said, “This is not about politics, this is about people. This is about the coal miner that has risked their life to support their family, this is about the construction worker from the trades that builds safe structure, and this is about the small business owner who serves those coal communities. So as I travel to Washington next week I will deliver one strong message: While for many years Americans have called on our coal miners to keep the lights on for them and their families, today we call on America to keep the lights on for the families of our coal miners.”

This has all been unfolding for a couple of weeks now, and much of it gets lost in the media noise over all of the bigger stories which have been playing out on the NSA, terror alerts and more. But if you need a good popcorn tale for the weekend, this one should fill the bill.


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Another weekend with Jazz … another weekend of Salem giving us the finger.

bw222 on August 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM

cracks in the façade…

DanMan on August 10, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Team Obama doesn’t really give a damn about what jobs are in West Virginia, other than maybe a handful of Democrats who are federal employees commuting from the Charles Town/Harper’s Ferry area into D.C. It’s just not a big enough state for them to pay attention to, barring some polling next year that shows they need to hold Jay Rockefeller’s soon-to-be-open seat to maintain control of the Senate.

jon1979 on August 10, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Feh… may as well be a gaggle of 5-year olds going at it with Nerf bats.

CPT. Charles on August 10, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Asking progressive left enviros to show mercy on people is like asking fleas to give the poor dog a break. You have to replace them because with people who are not beyond rational reason.

KW64 on August 10, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Another weekend with Jazz … another weekend of Salem giving us the finger.

bw222 on August 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM

If Salem cared about us, they’d start with the Faux-Conservative Morrissey, then get rid of Jazz in the process. At least when we had the green room, there was some conservative stuff here.

Quartermaster on August 10, 2013 at 10:27 AM

They obviously weren’t listening when Sheriff Joe said “NO coal!”

GarandFan on August 10, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Having dealt with the EPA on several clear cut issues of practical logic where the local and state officials were on board with what we were saying, I found it really did not matter. Federal EPA had their agenda and that was that. Either you change the EPA from the top or it will persist in ignoring lower levels of government, business, labor or anyone else.

KW64 on August 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Democrats are all gung ho for big government regulations, except when those regulations are applied to them. Example 2: obamacare waiver for her highness Pelousy.

NOMOBO on August 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Do they have ANY idea that we still get 40% of our electricity from coal ?

deadrody on August 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM

CHARLESTON, W.V. – Today Democratic Party Chairman Larry Puccio, Senate President Jeff Kessler, and House Speaker Tim Miley announced that they will be traveling to Washington on August 1, 2013 to meet with EPA officials and members of the current administration. Along with Senators Jay Rockefeller and Joe Manchin and Congressman Nick Rahall they will lead a delegation of Democratic legislators and business and labor leaders to help protect and support WV hardworking families and coal miners

…that’s a lot of people to bend over!

KOOLAID2 on August 10, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Obama has a waiver for that…

albill on August 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Do they have ANY idea that we still get 40% of our electricity from coal ?

deadrody on August 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Of course they do, but they think that electricity is far too cheap. The democratics would like to do to electricity what they are doing to healthcare, -raise costs dramatically through regulation and then subsidize their favored constituents that can no longer afford the product, thereby binding them to democratic politicians.

slickwillie2001 on August 10, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Another weekend with Jazz … another weekend of Salem giving us the finger.

bw222 on August 10, 2013 at 10:04 AM

…nice Bishop!…but I’m afraid we have to bend over and like it!…just like our party’s leaders…do it to us!

KOOLAID2 on August 10, 2013 at 11:11 AM

slickwillie2001 on August 10, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Except for the ones who just want to turn the lights out on everybody because our civilization revolts them.

“I want my castle, and I want you serfs in your mud huts right the f**k NOW!!

clear ether

eon

eon on August 10, 2013 at 11:16 AM

+1 to Jazz for developing some new HA cliches for the story links. I looked.

HitNRun on August 10, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Illegal aliens will replace the WV white crackah vote!

Little Boomer on August 10, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Do they have ANY idea that we still get 40% of our electricity from coal ?

deadrody on August 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM

These are the same people who will be the first to complain when a natural disaster takes out the electricity and it doesn’t come on for a few days. Coal = electricity. And no wind power or solar power can do what coal can do. Obama and his friends are just too stupid to see it. And no amount of educatin’ can change that.

COgirl on August 10, 2013 at 11:59 AM

If Salem cared about us, they’d start with the Faux-Conservative Morrissey, then get rid of Jazz in the process. At least when we had the green room, there was some conservative stuff here.

Quartermaster on August 10, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Salem is a way leftist outfit. What do you expect?

But, Quartermaster, can you tell me where to find Truth?

thuja on August 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM

This is something I don’t understand. Most WV democrats in congress and in the state government included should just become Republicans or at least independents. The Progressives have taken over the Democratic party and are pretty much against everything WV stands for. Even the entitlements stuff has lost ground there considering people in WV are most definitely against ObamaCare. Same would go for several members of the GOP like McCain and Graham who should just become dems at this point. Everyone would be happier…

People if you are so unhappy with your political party on so many things just leave…there is another party who would better suit your views, even if it is not a perfect fit.

William Eaton on August 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM

If Salem cared about us, they’d start with the Faux-Conservative Morrissey, then get rid of Jazz in the process. At least when we had the green room, there was some conservative stuff here.

Quartermaster on August 10, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Perhaps I shouldn’t troll someone like you. Perhaps I should point out that stridency is a matter of taste. Ed is quite conservative, but he wants to sound reasonable and to be happy rather than angry. If you want angry and nearly lunatic sounding, you should go listen to Mark Levin. But the Left is going to use Levin to tar conservatives as angry.

And stridency isn’t going to win the elections we need to win. Obama always describes his ideas as moderate “common sense solutions”. If he tried to sell them as far Left ideas, he wouldn’t get anywhere. Anyone who is going to win the general election as a conservative President will have to take the same tack. And quite a few Senators and Congressmen by the very nature of their districts have to do the same. They often can still vote severe conservative, but you have to reassure people.

thuja on August 10, 2013 at 12:20 PM

People if you are so unhappy with your political party on so many things just leave…there is another party who would better suit your views, even if it is not a perfect fit.

William Eaton on August 10, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Political evolution is slow. Look how long Arkansas resisted the move to voting GOP on the local level. There are still FDR Democrats who vote against their own interest and probably will for the rest of their lives. Red state Dems tell their voters that they are not national Democrats because they step out of line on a few parochial interests of their state but still play the same populist anti-business anti-wealth cards that work with lower middle class blue collar workers that the national Democrats do. Very often in Washington they act very much like national Democrats until election years. Tom Daschle in South Dakota was a perfect example of that. He could not have become Senate Majority Leader without embracing DC Democrat positions but back home he talked a very different game. I expect wave elections to slowly bring Republican legislative chambers in places like these.

KW64 on August 10, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Of course they do, but they think that electricity is far too cheap. The democratics would like to do to electricity what they are doing to healthcare, -raise costs dramatically through regulation and then subsidize their favored constituents that can no longer afford the product, thereby binding them to democratic politicians.

slickwillie2001 on August 10, 2013 at 11:08 AM

That is absolutely on the mark. If your very existence depends on government handouts, you will vote for the master who keeps the handouts coming. If you become independent of government largess then you are free to follow your actual beliefs such as preserving your freedom.

KW64 on August 10, 2013 at 12:27 PM

But, Quartermaster, can you tell me where to find Truth?

thuja on August 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Breitbart.com

msupertas on August 10, 2013 at 1:08 PM

OT, but very significant

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM

They should have listened when, in ’08, TOP (“The Observer President”) stated that he would bankrupt coal-fired generating plants – just what did they think would happen to coal-mines that had no place to sell their output?

To all of you Dems in energy-producing states, you own this, as he is your President. You need to find that “re-set” button.

Another Drew on August 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM

‘Necessarily Skyrocket’

BigWyo on August 10, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Very often in Washington they act very much like national Democrats until election years.
KW64 on August 10, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Bingo, and Jazz’s take is wide of the mark.

OT, but very significant

Schadenfreude on August 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Biden. Next question please. Why does no one on our side talk about it?

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 10, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Quartermaster on August 10, 2013 at 10:27 AM

I think ‘Prison Planet’ is what yer looking for.

BigWyo on August 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Do they have ANY idea that we still get 40% of our electricity from coal ?

deadrody on August 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Now that’s just crap…we get 100% of our electricity from that plug thingy in the wall.

And we get the other 23% from trees…or something.

BigWyo on August 10, 2013 at 1:45 PM

W.V.voted for Romney and will pay the price.The dems will teach them who counts.

docflash on August 10, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Hilarious. They know we’re on to them, right? That this is all kabuki theatre? I mean, why even try?

Until such time as the administration leadership and the national party itself objects to the EPA overreach, all of this is obviously BS.

MTF on August 10, 2013 at 3:49 PM

WV Dems have to play this card because of the UMW. They cannot get elected if coal goes down and they aren’t at least vocally opposed to the legislation. We’re talking about the survival of WV’s poor economy as it is. WV has voted for the GOP in the past several national elections, but it is still a Dem state locally. There’s too many traditionalists here to not vote for the same guy their grandad did.

Pattosensei on August 10, 2013 at 5:13 PM

These are the same people who will be the first to complain when a natural disaster takes out the electricity and it doesn’t come on for a few days.

COgirl on August 10, 2013 at 11:59 AM

A few years back during a 2 week+ power outage in -30 degree F temps, people were b!tching & whining about having no electricity.
Guess what persuasion, politics wise, they were?
The rest of us were prepared & did the best we could bcs we knew all those workers were risking their lives & working their a$$es off to get the power back on for us.

Badger40 on August 10, 2013 at 7:42 PM

but it is still a Dem state locally. There’s too many traditionalists here to not vote for the same guy their grandad did.

Pattosensei on August 10, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Yup. Ex was from there. Lansing. Poor welfare area. Daddy was a coal miner that got on black lung payments.
Vote Dem every time. But are conservative in so many areas.
They like their welfare. At least the ones I knew.

Badger40 on August 10, 2013 at 7:44 PM

At least when we had the green room, there was some conservative stuff here.

Quartermaster on August 10, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Yeah, what happened there? I was away for a while and when I came back all the Green Room writers were gone.

Cylor on August 12, 2013 at 2:35 AM