Fox poll shows “phony scandal” line playing worse that you’d think

posted at 9:21 am on August 9, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

After an avalanche of scandals hit the White House this spring, the Obama administration adopted the public-relations strategy of calling IRS political targeting, NSA domestic snooping, and the deaths of four Americans in an utterly predictable terrorist attack on a diplomatic facility “phony scandals.” How’s that working?  According to a new Fox poll, even worse than you’d think.  The best response comes on the IRS story, where a whopping 33% agree that there’s nothing to worry about … but 59% disagree:

Benghazi. Snooping on reporters. The IRS and NSA. The White House dismisses them as phony and fake scandals. Americans do not.

A Fox News national poll released Thursday finds that 78 percent of voters think the questions over the administration’s handling of the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi should be taken seriously. Just 17 percent call it a phony scandal. …

Meanwhile, 69 percent of voters say the National Security Agency’s electronic surveillance of everyday Americans is serious, while 26 percent call that a fake scandal.

By a margin of 59-31 percent, voters are also more likely to view the seizure of reporters’ phone records by the Justice Department as serious rather than phony.

And while the White House sees a Congressional investigation of the IRS targeting of conservative groups as a “distraction,” 59 percent of voters take it seriously. Some 33 percent agree with the administration that it’s fake.

Even Democrats aren’t buying the “phony scandal” line.  The internals show that a near-majority of Democrats think that the IRS scandal should be taken seriously (49/42).  The gap among Democrats is much wider on the DoJ’s pursuit of journalists’ phone records, 59/32, even though it’s mainly a case involving a Fox News reporter at the moment.

On the NSA, it’s a rout among Democrats, with 68/27 arguing it needs to be taken seriously, but the most damaging of all are the results on Benghazi.  Leaders of the Democratic Party have suggested that the investigation is nothing more than a sly attempt to damage Hillary Clinton in advance of her presidential run in the 2016 cycle, but only 25% of Democrats believe that the deaths of four Americans constitute a “phony scandal.” Seventy percent believe it should be taken serious, and that’s the lowest rating among any of the demographics in the poll on that question.  Furthermore, 56% of Democrats think the White House is covering up what happened in Benghazi, and that’s not a number that will damage Hillary alone.

There isn’t a lot of good news in the poll for Obama elsewhere, either.  His job approval rating dropped from 46/47 two weeks ago to 42/52, although a shift in the partisan sample could account for that (40/34 Dem to 38/37 Dem).  His new campaign to boost Obamanomics is a bust, even among his fellow Democrats.  More than six in ten respondents overall believe Obama should be working with Republicans on a compromise rather than going on tour (63/24), including a plurality of Democrats (47/42).  Wide majorities say they’re hearing nothing new from Obama in almost all demographics (71% overall), with a narrow plurality of Democrats agreeing (44/42).  Who does Obama think is listening, anyway?


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Who does Obama think is listening, anyway?

He doesn’t care!

dmann on August 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM

He can’t work with Republicans, he does not know what work is and his ego wont allow it

crosshugger on August 9, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Pssst… it says “worse that…” You know better than that.

Akzed on August 9, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Its a fox news poll, nothing to see here pffft
-lsm

cmsinaz on August 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Speaking of phony scandals: next up…

Akzed on August 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Make way for the new messiah.

Flange on August 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM

The only Phony is the one calling these Scandals..

Electrongod on August 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Only a Phony President would call the death of four Americans a Phony Scandal. If fact, I think Obama is a Phony American.

Deano1952 on August 9, 2013 at 9:28 AM

He’s awesome… another presser yea!
-whpc

cmsinaz on August 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Wide majorities say they’re hearing nothing new from Obama in almost all demographics (71% overall), with a narrow plurality of Democrats agreeing (44/42). Who does Obama think is listening, anyway?

Uh, what the hell were these people listening to in 2012? Obama didn’t say anything new that entire election other than the nonsense about birth control. There’s a reason they chant “four more years”. It means if you reelect the dude, you’re all but certain to get FOUR MORE YEARS of the same!

Doughboy on August 9, 2013 at 9:30 AM

17% on Benghazi is below what I thought was the floor for Obama. Some the True Believers aren’t even on board with him.

forest on August 9, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Obama is a half-ass.

celtic warrior on August 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Well obviously this Fox News poll is Phony.

ToddPA on August 9, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Democrats to call this poll phony because its put out by “faux” in 3….2…1. These Dems are as predictable as tomorrows sunrise

neyney on August 9, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Speaking of phony scandals: next up…

Akzed on August 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Words aren’t adequate to describe my loathing of these people.

forest on August 9, 2013 at 9:39 AM

He’s a liar.Anyone with a working brain cell knows it.He’s proud of the damage he’s done.He knows he’s set for life.The American people are trash to him.

docflash on August 9, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Has anyone noticed that Fox News polls pretend the party ID from the 2012 election didn’t happen…

libfreeordie on August 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM

President Choom doesn’t care about polls. He’s too smart and sophisticated to care what the stupid little people think. Only he knows what’s best for everyone. The LSM keeps telling him (and the stupid little people) that, so it must be true.
/s

RoadRunner on August 9, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Obama couldn’t care less.

rrpjr on August 9, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Obama can blow smoke as much as he wishes but as long as we keep our pants on it will have no effect. But even by calling them phoney he is acknowledging that they are indeed scandals.

Congress should up the ante and resurrect the crime of Inherent Contempt. Rehab the congressional jail and name it The Barak H. Obama Congressional Detention Facility. that should help to restore the authority of congress to investigate the administration.

meci on August 9, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Yet, the GOP refuses to take advantage of opportunities like this. People like McConnell and Boehner are gutless.

bw222 on August 9, 2013 at 9:47 AM

By the way, the MSM couldn’t care less either.

rrpjr on August 9, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Obama is a half-ass.

celtic warrior on August 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

You’re only half right.

Chris of Rights on August 9, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Who does Obama think is listening, anyway?

He won. Twice.

What does that say about what Dems think is a scandal or not?

Not much, really. He’s a Democrat, he’s black. Thats all that matters.

A video with Barack gettin’ his freak on with 3 live boys and 2 dead girls would not move the polls.

BobMbx on August 9, 2013 at 9:53 AM

3 1/2 more years of this.

Outrages by Obama, Business killing mandates and regulations, supposedly phony scandals, a media that covers for him and a republican party that will NOT EFFECTIVELY OPPOSE HIM.

….and seriously people on the right wonder why voters are tuned out to the futility of Washington D.C. and the edicts of the Ruling Class?

Because at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself….”What difference does it make?” because when Obama’s brand gets damaged the Progressive overlords inside the Beltway just trot out another Big gov lover for us to vote for or against. And the only thing that changes is we get bigger and more demanding government.

PappyD61 on August 9, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Yet, the GOP refuses to take advantage of opportunities like this. People like McConnell and Boehner are gutless.

bw222 on August 9, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Did you catch this — constituents confront useless Republican. They capture the frustration perfectly.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/08/voters-explode-at-gop-lawmakers-during-town-hall-were-dying-out-here-because-you-guys-are-being-nice-guys/

rrpjr on August 9, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Yet, the GOP refuses to take advantage of opportunities like this. People like McConnell and Boehner are gutless accomplices.

bw222 on August 9, 2013 at 9:47 AM

FIFY.

PappyD61 on August 9, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Bad polls?

RUN AWAY!!!!

/The Vinyahd

Key West Reader on August 9, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Has anyone noticed that Fox News polls pretend the party ID from the 2012 election didn’t happen…

libfreeordie on August 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Split is 40/34/22.

CNN’s exit polls from 2012 show 38/32/29.

Ahem.

Chris of Rights on August 9, 2013 at 9:58 AM

phony is as phony does……

ted c on August 9, 2013 at 9:59 AM

The Race Card–no annual fees, used daily, never expires, use and abuse the media at will as a special lifetime benefit.

hillsoftx on August 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Yet, the GOP refuses to take advantage of opportunities like this. People like McConnell and Boehner are gutless.

bw222 on August 9, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Its not so much that they’re gutless, but it has more to do with the luxurious gig they’ve created for themselves.

Nobody wants to rock the boat and actually do something productive. That would require legislators to exhibit intellectual honesty, patriotism, and leadership.

Doing that would really put the harsh on CODEL travel, parties, having their ass kissed and other free stuff.

Neither political party cares who has the majority. The phony animosity is kept alive for our benefit, as it hides their corruption.

BobMbx on August 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Phony?

IRS agent: Tax agency is still targeting Tea Party groups
http://washingtonexaminer.com/irs-agent-tax-agency-is-still-targeting-tea-party-groups/article/2534044
In a remarkable admission that is likely to rock the Internal Revenue Service again, testimony released Thursday by House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp reveals that an agent involved in reviewing tax exempt applications from conservative groups told a committee investigator that the agency is still targeting Tea Party groups, three months after the IRS scandal erupted.

Galt2009 on August 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM

libfreeordie on August 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Do you approve of Obama’s oppressive police state?

Do you approve of Obama’s voter suppression?

Galt2009 on August 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

This one party government is very powerful…

d1carter on August 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Did you catch this — constituents confront useless Republican. They capture the frustration perfectly.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/08/voters-explode-at-gop-lawmakers-during-town-hall-were-dying-out-here-because-you-guys-are-being-nice-guys/

rrpjr on August 9, 2013 at 9:54 AM

That sums it up. 2014 should theoretically be a bloodbath for the Dems. But it might not turn out that way if the perception within the conservative/Tea Party base is that Congressional Republicans have no interest in fighting Obama and the Democrat Party agenda on anything(and in some cases are helping to get it passed).

Say what you will about Boehner and McConnell’s p-sspoor leadership, but back in 2009-10 they were able to get their party to vote almost in unison against Obamacare, crap-and-betrayed, and Porkulus. But now I’m starting to wonder if that was all for show. Did they really oppose those bills, or did they vote against them because they knew Obamacare and Porkulus were a fait acompli since the Dems were all onboard?

Doughboy on August 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Speaking of phony scandals: next up…

Akzed on August 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM

My God!

roy_batty on August 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Very little of this wasn’t known prior to November. People were either content to be ignorant, or simply didn’t care. The American people voted for this P.O.t.u.S.

IRS political targeting, serial lying, and slack, half-a$$ed anti-terror policies were the order of the day back when Clinton was in office. That these things continue in the Obama administration should surprise precisely NO ONE.

SAMinVA on August 9, 2013 at 10:09 AM

These past 5 years have been the longest in my life. The next 3 will go painfully slow. What’s really disheartening is that the likelihood of any of the people involved in any of these painfully real scandals will suffer any consequences doesn’t seem to exist. They’re all in collusion together.

scalleywag on August 9, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Has anyone noticed that Fox News polls pretend the party ID from the 2012 election didn’t happen…

libfreeordie on August 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Such might matter if polls from other outfits didn’t report similar findings.

Resist We Much on August 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

More Phoniness:

Valerie Jarrett Gave Benghazi Stand-Down Order
http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/valerie-jarrett-gave-benghazi-stand-down-order/
Columnist Charles Krauthammer said recently on “The O’Reilly Factor” that the “biggest scandal of all” regarding that Benghazi slaughter has yet to emerge.

“I think there is a bigger story here … that will in time come out,” Krauthammer said. “The biggest scandal of all, the biggest question is: What was the president doing in those eight hours?”

The columnist noted: “He had a routine meeting at 5 o’clock. He never after, during the eight hours when our guys have their lives in danger, he never called the secretary of defense, he never calls the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he never calls the CIA director.”

One of the people Obama always talks to is Valerie Jarrett. She emerged from the same Chicago cauldron of radicalism where Obama got his ideological baptism.

The Iranian-born Jarrett (her parents were American-born expatriates) is the only staff member who regularly follows the president home from the West Wing to the residence and one of the few people allowed to call the president by his first name.

Galt2009 on August 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

They’re all in collusion together.

scalleywag on August 9, 2013 at 10:14 AM

In fact, one of them, one of the most feckless, corrupt and irresponsible, has been named as quite possibly the next president, leaving us with up to 8 more years of the same old cr@p.

scalleywag on August 9, 2013 at 10:19 AM

My God!

roy_batty on August 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM

There is very little new in that story. A few details.

libfreeordie on August 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Why don’t you move to the paradise which is Cuba.

gh on August 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Resist We Much on August 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Please ignore it. Winning arguments with morons is not impressive.

gh on August 9, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Wide majorities say they’re hearing nothing new from Obama

And that’s a surprise? Seeing as King Barry believes ‘there’s no truth but socialist truth’.

GarandFan on August 9, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Wake up folks. The left lost interest in Bambi as soon as he was re-elected. The focus now is Hilary or Fauxahontas for 2016.

gh on August 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM

“Phony” scandals for a Phony President

J_Crater on August 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM

I’m sure it’ll matter in his next reelection campaign, but his RCP average at -6.2 is the worst he’s had since Dec 10, 2011.

Still barely reaching the level of significance, though. As I’ve said repeatedly, he’s lived between +4 and -4 for most of his Presidency, and has been as low as -12.

Chris of Rights on August 9, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Who does Obama think is listening, anyway?

Obama likes listening to himself, plus he still has his groupies who will reliably be at everyone of his little performances.

William Eaton on August 9, 2013 at 10:52 AM

libfreeordie on August 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Has anyone noticed that we have a treason supporter here? After all, what’s a few dead American heroes by the vice president you helped elect? You DO support his actions helping our enemies, right? Or are you going to condemn him as a traitor? I’ll wait for your answer.

dominigan on August 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM

When the dems say the scandals should be taken seriously,they mean that they should be covered up and surpressed and not “ignored”.

Libfree is a racist wanabe tyrant so of course he supports everything obama and co. does.

Hard Right on August 9, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Fox poll shows “phony scandal” line playing worse that you’d think

…and yet not nearly as bad as it SHOULD be! Obama demonstrated a total disregard for those he considers his ‘political enemies’, for those he considered threats to his re-election, for Americans who ‘had to die’ in Benghazi to perpetrate the coverup of his CIA-Syrian gun-running operation, for the Constitution, for the Rule of Law, and for American citizens – the victims and their families.

Obama has voiced aloud his consideration regarding how easier it would be to lead if he was some tyanical ‘Banana Republic’ dictator…and has gone about his role as President as if he WAS such a dictator. He has demonstrated through his actions that he is a threat to this nation and its citizens! If it were not that the majority of Americans are now sitting on their couches, ‘pacified’ into submission with all the tax-payer funded ‘freebies’, I would think more Americans would be marching on Washington with pitchforks and torches…. Of course if they did, they would not find Obama there, as he is now on his monthly tax payer-funded vacation…

easyt65 on August 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Phony scandals for a Phony President.

Kjeil on August 9, 2013 at 11:20 AM

It’s getting to the point where a public trial and execution are the only things that will wake people up. And by this I mean the public execution of one of these traitors in D.C. Everything we see is intentional and by design. It is not incompetence or even willful ignorance. It’s treason.

HomeoftheBrave on August 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM

All just a few months late–more than one or two of those feel good Northeast liberals might have woken up in time, ignored their pride, kicking into survival mode and voted the opposite….but life is always a matter of inches, seconds, and choices–good and bad.

Don L on August 9, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Has anyone noticed that Fox News polls pretend the party ID from the 2012 election didn’t happen…

libfreeordie on August 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM

We noticed you’re dribbling again. Go wipe your chin.

zoyclem on August 9, 2013 at 11:29 AM

This “phony scandal” scandal is just another phony scandal.

boone on August 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Democrats will demur to the “phony scandal” label on Benghazi for as long as humanely possible. Why? Because all roads of blame lead directly to their royal successor- Hillary.

This administration, and Hillary for that matter, have received unprecedented cover and disinterest from the media. For that despicable act, I mostly blame them, The media is a scourge on our democracy and are shameful facilitators in its destruction.

But conclusively, I submit to you, no other administration in history could have four Americans murdered by terrorists, including an ambassador, then try to cover their tracks by inventing false motives, hiding emails, hiding witnesses, playing with a general’s military status to keep him from Congress, hiding a potentially relevant CIA arms running op and generally covering up and entire national tragedy…and survive unscathed such as this.

It seems there are not only grotesque errors in judgement steeped in political motives, but now potentially criminal behavior. Yet, still the American people, and more importantly the loved ones of our murdered countrymen have no answers. None.

Hillary’s retirement was an attempt to put distance between herself, the terrible judgment she displayed as SoS and the eventual facts which Democrats are doing their best to obscure. She ultimately made the decisions which left those men unprotected and easy prey for terrorists. She once again displayed her penchant for putting politics above Americans lives. “What does it matter?” It sure as hell matters to most Americans.

Marcus Traianus on August 9, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Instead of obama and Michelle bldg. a home in Detroit, they go live like emperors in totally white Martha’s Vineyard…

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2013 at 12:03 PM

“Phony” is the preferred word of phonies.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2013 at 12:28 PM

The only thing phony is Obama and his corrupt thug administration.

jqc1970 on August 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Real scandals …..PHONY President! Come on Snowden or Wiki leak guys..give us the facts about this imposter! Unseal those records! Surely you can do it!! Americans need the facts now before this guy completely destroys the country!

Marco on August 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Speaking of phony scandals: next up…

Akzed on August 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Let’s be explicit about this one: Joe Biden helped enormously to get SEAL Team 6 targeted and killed.

John the Libertarian on August 9, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Has anyone noticed that Fox News polls pretend the party ID from the 2012 election didn’t happen…

libfreeordie on August 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM

“At this point, what difference does it make?”

F-

Del Dolemonte on August 9, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Do you approve of Obama’s oppressive police state?

Do you approve of Obama’s voter suppression?

Galt2009 on August 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Rhetorical Right?

BigWyo on August 9, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Obama is an expert on phony.

birdwatcher on August 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM

They are Phoney Scandals, that is why nobody has been Fired.

Fleuries on August 9, 2013 at 2:58 PM

So, not looking good for a 3rd term, eh?

Kissmygrits on August 9, 2013 at 3:13 PM

libfreeordie on August 9, 2013 at 9:44 AM

We noticed you’re dribbling again. Go wipe your chin.

zoyclem on August 9, 2013 at 11:29 AM

That’s not dribble.

CurtZHP on August 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

I’d like to see a poll which is more phoney — our President, or the bunch of “phoney” crisises he has created.

A another vacation from his busy golf schedule and a couple more Phoney decisions like nixing Keystone, and Obama will be remembered as the Phoney President.

drfredc on August 9, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Maybe he meant Pony Scandal?

Fleuries on August 10, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Obama is a half-ass.

celtic warrior on August 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

You’re only half right.

Chris of Rights

All ASS and full of $H!T

hamradio on August 10, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Who does Obama think is listening, anyway?

Low information voters who get their news from Hollywood.

Fred 2 on August 11, 2013 at 6:06 PM