Dem rep: There are 40-50 Republicans in the House willing to vote with us on immigration reform

posted at 3:51 pm on August 9, 2013 by Allahpundit

Something new from Paul Ryan’s buddy, Luis Gutierrez, whom you might remember for once declaring that his one and only loyalty is to “the immigrant community.”

I’d love to post the video for you but it was inexplicably removed after righty blogs started paying attention to it. Anyway, key question: Does he have 40-50 Republicans who support immigration reform in the abstract, or does he have 40-50 Republicans willing to vote for immigration reform? Crucial difference.

Gutierrez said Republicans who support the idea are staying deliberately quiet to avoid a backlash from conservative activists.

“Some of them I’ve spoken to, and they say, ‘Love to do the activity with you, I want to be able to vote for it, I really don’t need to draw attention to myself at this point,’ but we can count on it,” Gutierrez said.

Gutierrez said that Obama asked him in 2009 to find him 40 or 50 Republicans who would sign on to a comprehensive immigration reform bill.

“If they asked me today, go find those 40 or 50 Republicans, I’d tell them I found them,” Gutierrez said. “I know where they’re at. They’re here. They’re present.”

He also told the Post he has 195 Democrats onboard, which, if true, means he needs only half the number of Republicans who allegedly told him he can count on them. That gives him plenty of cushion for when a few of them, inevitably, get cold feet.

Two questions. One: What exactly are those 40-50 Republicans signing up for? Are they onboard with the Senate Gang of Eight bill, the House Gang of Seven plan (Gutierrez himself is a member), some sort of path to citizenship, a path to legalization, or something else? Just because there are a few dozen GOPers who are open to legal status in theory in exchange for tighter border security doesn’t mean they’re willing to risk their seats by voting for any ol’ package that Gutierrez puts together. And if they aren’t, then isn’t really news. Of course there are dozens of House Republicans willing to make a theoretical deal here if it’s the right deal. After 10 months of rhetoric from the leadership about demographic destruction of the party because of a lopsided Latino vote, how could there not be?

Two: Even if they’re willing to vote for the Gang of Eight bill (or some product of a conference committee that’s similar to it), what procedural cover would they need to do so? If Boehner’s true to his word about not bringing a bill to the floor unless it’s supported by a majority of Republicans, then Gutierrez’s 40-50 number is meaningless. It’s a useful talking point for amnesty fans insofar as it tells the public there’s a majority of the House ready to do this and that Boehner and his squad of Republican grinches are thwarting them, but legislatively it amounts to nothing. The only end-around the Hastert Rule for Dems is a discharge petition, but I guarantee you that Gutierrez doesn’t have 50 Republicans willing to do something as drastic and unorthodox as that. It would be a serious betrayal of the caucus (if, maybe, not of Boehner himself) and surely some of those 50 would face formidable primary challenges because of it. Could there be, say, 25 Republicans, though, who are safe enough in their districts that they could survive voting with Dems on a discharge petition? We might find out!

Exit question: Is there already a majority of Republicans in favor of Cantor’s version of the DREAM Act? Aaron Schock is hinting that there is.


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With all that snooping, they have to have enough dirt on more than that 40-50.

Flange on August 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Its’ been nice America. I’ll remember you fondly. The financial cataclysm that this will bring on will end us as a Country.

This is the end.

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 3:55 PM

I think he’s bluffing.

cynccook on August 9, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Sad day. The GOP has no spine and will be forever the minority. Congrats!

mrscullen on August 9, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Will amnestied illegals be able to make ends meet on 20 hour a week 8 dollar per hour work? I wonder who will have to support them then? Free food, housing, schooling and healthcare. Provided by part-time working American taxpayers.

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Will amnestied illegals be able to make ends meet on 20 hour a week 8 dollar per hour work? I wonder who will have to support them then? Free food, housing, schooling and healthcare. Provided by part-time working American taxpayers.

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 3:57 PM

arr you kidding the American taxpayer will be supporting them.

ChunkyLover on August 9, 2013 at 3:59 PM

If it aint 150 Republicans, then it needs to remain off the floor.

astonerii on August 9, 2013 at 4:00 PM

If Boehner’s true to his word…

Isn’t this getting to be an overused punchline?

sharrukin on August 9, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Exit question: Is there already a majority of Republicans in favor of Cantor’s version of the DREAM Act? Aaron Schock is hinting that there is.

Yes, God damn all the traitors, incl. these deceiving ones.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Allahhpundid: please, peace be upon you ,but don’t go there.This is the whole ball of wax,if the GOP goes there it’s over. Time to use the R word.

celtic warrior on August 9, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Dem rep: There are 40-50 Republicans in the House willing to vote with us on immigration reform lose their next election cycles.

portlandon on August 9, 2013 at 4:06 PM

the other cave will be on the barrycare funding…of course that’s pretty much of a given.

Here’s the left

Rs should disprove Obama's claim about GOP having no health care plan by proposing a meaningful alternative to Obamacare.— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) August 9, 2013

so that’s the frame…and Rs have nothin to say

r keller on August 9, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Gutierrez said Republicans who support the idea are staying deliberately quiet to avoid a backlash from conservative activists.

i.e.,……conservatives.

Dongemaharu on August 9, 2013 at 4:06 PM

The R rats are afraid to hold townhall meetings.

Throw them all out in 2014, the charlatans who ruin you.

Schadenfreude on August 9, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Can we say the Federal Government is illegitimate yet?

Not yet?

…okay. Just checking.

gryphon202 on August 9, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Dem rep: There are 40-50 Republicans in the House willing to vote with us on immigration reform lose their next election cycles.

portlandon on August 9, 2013 at 4:06 PM

You don’t really think that’s going to happen do you, Port?

gryphon202 on August 9, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Exit question: Is there already a majority of Republicans in favor of Cantor’s version of the DREAM Act? Aaron Schock is hinting that there is.

National divorce time. Let’s do the Czechoslovakia thing and rid ourselves of these demented America-haters. They can have their own little nation to turn into a total hellhole and garbage dump for the world.

Lowlifes.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 9, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Can we say the Federal Government is illegitimate yet?

gryphon202 on August 9, 2013 at 4:09 PM

It’s beyond illegitimate. It’s feral and will never be domesticated, again.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 9, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Those aren’t Republicans, they’re mistakes.

rplat on August 9, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Gutierrez said Republicans who support the idea are staying deliberately quiet to avoid a backlash from conservative activists.

Well this is the key statement right there. They know they are doing wrong and want to hide the fact. Too bad for them that there is no place to hide.

Dr. Frank Enstine on August 9, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Im stunned that more members of the democratic lightRepublican party arent voting for the bill

rickyricardo on August 9, 2013 at 4:15 PM

arr you kidding the American taxpayer will be supporting them.
ChunkyLover on August 9, 2013 at 3:59 PM

They still make those?

happytobehere on August 9, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Name ‘em.

Compile a list.

listens2glenn on August 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM

We no longer have a 2 party system. We have DINO’s and RINO’s who are all Marxist Progressives. (well, MOST anyway)

We need a Conservative Libertarian party to end this charade. Makes me sick.

Key West Reader on August 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Primary these idiots.

ParisParamus on August 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I think he’s bluffing.

cynccook on August 9, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Yep, smack talk to keep immigration reform on the table. He’s got nothing.

Johnnyreb on August 9, 2013 at 4:22 PM

the last march of the RINOs, the final nail in the coffin for the GOP. never again will the GOP hold a majority in Congress or get elected to the WH, and rightly so

burserker on August 9, 2013 at 4:22 PM

National divorce time. Let’s do the Czechoslovakia thing and rid ourselves of these demented America-haters. They can have their own little nation to turn into a total hellhole and garbage dump for the world.

Lowlifes.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 9, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Are you nuts? The American people are way too lazy and stupid to start a new country. They can’t even bothered to keep the one we already have.

happytobehere on August 9, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Yep, smack talk to keep immigration reform giving aid and comfort to an invading enemy on the table. He’s got nothing.

Johnnyreb on August 9, 2013 at 4:22 PM

None of the traitors in the GOP are saying that he’s lying. He’s helping the Vichy Republicans and they like what he’s doing.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 9, 2013 at 4:25 PM

With 70 trillion in liabilities it was just a long slow death spiral towards the end of America anyway. This and Obamacare just speeds things up.

Let it burn. The sooner the better.

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 4:25 PM

This Luis Gutierrez, is he the one pictured?

Looks like a Venezualan Dictator thug…

..yeah, he’s go the votes….See Republicans, THIS
is how it’s done. You don’t play fair, you don’t play
nice, you bully……then bully some more…..

..and before you know it, you have a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.

ToddPA on August 9, 2013 at 4:26 PM

must be Friday and Allah wants to stir traffic

He doesn’t have the votes. This guy claimed we would see it passed before the recess. Didn’t happen. Now they are threatening to have Obama bypass congress. That would be to protect dems from voting for it. My hunch is this would not pass with a straight up vote in the house.

GOP knows if they support this their time is up much sooner than necessary. With all of the scandals Obama needs to answer for there should be no legislation like this being considered at all.

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 4:28 PM

There are 40-50 Republicans in the House willing to vote with us on immigration reform

Sorry, we’ve been down this road before. The enemy declares victory in the vote count IN THE MEDIA. The reality is much different. I refuse to pay attention to these declarations until they can name the GOP supporters.

Happy Nomad on August 9, 2013 at 4:30 PM

You don’t really think that’s going to happen do you, Port?

gryphon202 on August 9, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Sure. There will be enough anger over this to bring out voters that don’t normally vote.

I’d like to believe that.

portlandon on August 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM

None of the traitors in the GOP are saying that he’s lying.

how many democrats do you hear supporting this? They don’t have to since the media will do it for them. Who’s reporting on the GOP? the same media.

Nothing is going to happen on immigration people, quit getting sucked in and take a breath.

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM

We no longer have a 2 party system. We have DINO’s and RINO’s who are all Marxist Progressives. (well, MOST anyway)

We need a Conservative Libertarian party to end this charade. Makes me sick.

Key West Reader on August 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM

You’re mistaken. The electorate is the problem. No political party can end the charade as long as the electorate is profoundly unserious and filled with Dems.

happytobehere on August 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Hey: we are headed toward a Juan Peron type system here.Check Argentina circa 1910. The people of Argentina voted for their demise.We did to in 2008 and 2012.

celtic warrior on August 9, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Happy Nomad on August 9, 2013 at 4:30 PM

exactly

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 4:32 PM

When the Democrats have the majority, they say ‘To hell with the Republican caucus!’

When the Democrats are in the minority, they say ‘To hell with the Republican caucus! A minority of Republicans are willing to pass legislation that we want. If you don’t put what we want to a vote, you’re obstructionists!’

Democrats: ‘Heads we win, tails you lose!’

Resist We Much on August 9, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Third Party…. At least we go down swinging.

SMACKRUNNER on August 9, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Nothing is going to happen on immigration people, quit getting sucked in and take a breath.

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM

The point I was making is that the GOP would, if they were against this treasonous move, make it perfectly clear that Guitierrez doesn’t count their votes for them and that any thoughts of passing this traitorous, illegal, un-Constitutional, insane bill are ridiculous. Usually parties don’t like others doing their vote counts for them, anyway. But, we get silence from the Vichy Republicans which means that they like what Guitierrez is saying and they are happy that he’s keeping the treasonous hope alive.

Of course, we’ve heard the Weeping Boner say much the same and offer his own treasonous versions so we know where the GOP generally stands.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Sorry, I’ve given up believing any of these lying, stinking, thieving politicians on any side says anymore. If you have the votes, then vote and get it over with. Then we can settle in and get used to our Democratic overlords and watch our country continue to fall apart until we all wish we were Detroit.

Bitter Republican in PA on August 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM

We all know how great Libtards are at math.

mouell on August 9, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Nothing is going to happen on immigration people, quit getting sucked in and take a breath.

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM

This. Everyone needs to sit back and relax. There have been a gajillion “press releases” saying Amnesty is going to pass before (you pick one: next week, the recess, the end of the Fiscal Year, the next mid terms, etc.) honestly, we get something new every week. This is just a couple people trying to keep the idea there and toss a bone to the Hispanic vote.

Johnnyreb on August 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM

“The United States of Detroit: The Twilight of America”

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 4:41 PM

This. Everyone needs to sit back and relax. There have been a gajillion “press releases” saying Amnesty is going to pass before (you pick one: next week, the recess, the end of the Fiscal Year, the next mid terms, etc.) honestly, we get something new every week. This is just a couple people trying to keep the idea there and toss a bone to the Hispanic vote.

Johnnyreb on August 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM

All the while, more and more people overstay their visas and cross the border. Rubio was right, doing nothing is amnesty. Either running out the clock by continuing to not intentionally enforce existing law, or by passing a bill, it’s over.

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 4:45 PM

And that is why I hang up on the RNC when they call for money. It’s all done, there is nobody representing Conservatives in Washington. I will live out my days knowing the nation is doomed.

echosyst on August 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Nothing is going to happen on immigration people, quit getting sucked in and take a breath.

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 4:31 PM

I recall being told Obamacare wouldn’t pass either.

sharrukin on August 9, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Either running out the clock by continuing to not intentionally not enforce existing law, or by passing a bill, it’s over.

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Grrr…

Just open the borders to already. When the libs see that Mexico and the rest of the world won’t reciprocate when they want to escape this hell hole, only then will they understand.

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

The military strategist Sun Tzu said “If the battle can’t be won, don’t fight.”

The two biggest fights are
1 Amnesty
2 Obamacare

I rank Amnesty over Obamacare because, in my estimation, if this battle is lost, Obamacare won’t make any difference because the United States (as we know it)is irrevocably lost–becoming a one-party hegemony.

The battle that is lost right now is Obamacare. 1 It is already law 2 41 votes are needed to filibuster no funding (currently only 13 Republican Senators (0 Democrats) support no funding, 9 Republicans are against no funding and 24 Republican senators are non committal. 3 Even if all 24 fence-sitting senators can be convinced-the total is only 37–4 short of a filbuster. 4 Even if a filibuster is possible, with an enemy President and an enemy Senate in control, defunding of Obamacare will be expanded to defunding the entire government–and even though Democrats will be responsible–the public will blame the Republicans-and the unpopularity of Obamacare will accrue to the Republicans. 5 RINOS supporting the filibuster, faced with eroding public support, will cowardly desert in droves (as they always do) giving the Democrats a huge propaganda victory.

Therefore I believe we should fight the battle which is still winnable. 1 Amnesty is not law yet. 2 Obama’s threat to bypass the legislature via executive fiat is probably a bluff. 3 The Republicans control the House which can defeat Amnesty simply by doing nothing. 4 If we win this battle maybe it will give us momentum to fight the second battle heretofore unwinnable.

MaiDee on August 9, 2013 at 4:52 PM

did anyone notice the Marxist fist that the congressman is holding up.

ChunkyLover on August 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Either running out the clock by continuing to not intentionally enforce existing law, or by passing a bill, it’s over.

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 4:45 PM

what is different today than a year ago? nothing except an approaching election and a lot of horrible accusations related to Obama’s scandal. The media is working hard for the dems. They are mocking you to great effect. Everybody weeping about it being over don’t seem to realize they are being played. It is not over until the votes are counted and Luis Gutierez is doing all he can to get votes he doesn’t have. There is no repub with media access like a dem except for liberals like McShitty, Graham, etc. Please pay attention.

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Gutierrez said that Obama asked him in 2009 to find him 40 or 50 Republicans who would sign on to a comprehensive immigration reform bill.

Irrelevant. The Democrats had a majority in the House in 2009. They no longer do.

Resist We Much on August 9, 2013 at 4:56 PM

They have spent us to oblivion and think the only way out is to, almost instantly, produce 15 million taxpayers. Do they realize that a low wage person, after deductions and Earned Income credit , is actually a negative to tax revenues? And this is before the Entitlements begin.
Question, I know that they are selling Obamacare with Tax credits for the eligible. Those are usually done once a year with the filing of your Income Tax. Most people pay their Medical Insurance monthly or quarterly. Will people receiving those Credits have to pay their full insurance bill all year and then get the credit at the end of the year?

Whiterock on August 9, 2013 at 5:10 PM

If the GOP votes for this the way that the senate did, then this guy is moving his registration and voting against anyone that jumps on board the Schumer, McCain, Graham train, period. It’s time for a real Tea Party Party.

Pardonme on August 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM

what is different today than a year ago? nothing except an approaching election and a lot of horrible accusations related to Obama’s scandal. The media is working hard for the dems. They are mocking you to great effect. Everybody weeping about it being over don’t seem to realize they are being played. It is not over until the votes are counted and Luis Gutierez is doing all he can to get votes he doesn’t have. There is no repub with media access like a dem except for liberals like McShitty, Graham, etc. Please pay attention.

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM

So these Repubs that don’t have media access are going to stop this? Remember when Obamacare wasn’t going to pass? Please pay attention. How did all of those Republican plans play out in America when they weren’t reported by the press. How does anything you argue here stop amnesty? These people are in the bag. Why will any of the Repubs on vacation listen to their base and not the poor immigrants?

So I’m being played. How does knowing that stop a bill from passing? How does that stop authorities from ignoring law? How does that stop Obama from calling people dreamers and letting them stay when caught?

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM

He has identified 40 or 50 Republicans who don’t want to take fire from either side. Having 50 cowards say they’d love to support you if there is no downside is not the same as saying “you can count on me.”

Fred 2 on August 9, 2013 at 5:12 PM

I think he’s bluffing.

cynccook on August 9, 2013 at 3:56 PM

I agree. This doesn’t mean the Republicans aren’t caving cowards, but democrats are all liars.

rrpjr on August 9, 2013 at 5:14 PM

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM

What is the ideology of the Republican party? Boehner, Ryan, Cantor, Rubio, McCain? This is in the bag. The leaches are only trying to break it to the base gently so they don’t get shaken of the bloody American body that they have sucked the life out of.

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Most disgusting commercial on amnesty right now on fox….

Barred on August 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Any conservative still voting for these backstabbing repubs are total idiots. Most of these rinos have sold us out.

johnny reb on August 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Mark Zuckerburg going all out.

Barred on August 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Well this is the key statement right there. They know they are doing wrong and want to hide the fact. Too bad for them that there is no place to hide.

Dr. Frank Enstine on August 9, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Do they somehow think they’ll remain anonymous past the 2014 election? If they know being attached to this will kill them…

Ukiah on August 9, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Zuckerberg

Barred on August 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Johnnyreb on August 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM
johnny reb on August 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM

This seems to be happening a lot lately. Are people intentionally getting two log ins or are “friends” of HotAir trying to spoof others?

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM

If Boehner’s true to his word about not bringing a bill to the floor unless it’s supported by a majority of Republicans, then Gutierrez’s 40-50 number is meaningless. It’s a useful talking point for amnesty fans insofar as it tells the public there’s a majority of the House ready to do this and that Boehner and his squad of Republican grinches are thwarting them

Ummm….bingo!

Mr. Arkadin on August 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM

HeII on earth if he isn’t lying.

Bmore on August 9, 2013 at 5:24 PM

So What ?

No REPUBLICAN House is going to vote on a bill that isn’t supported by a majority of REPUBLICANS

deadrody on August 9, 2013 at 5:25 PM

DEM: WE’VE GOT VOTES IN HOUSE TO PASS AMNESTY!
OBAMA: ‘Absolutely certain’…
SCHOCK: Majority of House GOP support ‘DREAM Act’…
ZUCKERBERG GROUP DEFENDS PAUL RYAN…
GREEK PM: OUR ‘PROBLEMS HAVE TO DO WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION’…
Illegals target GOP in town halls…

Bmore on August 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Does he have 40-50 Republicans who support immigration reform in the abstract, or does he have 40-50 Republicans willing to vote for immigration reform? Crucial difference.

It doesn’t matter. Boehner won’t bring it for a vote without support from 100+ Republicans in the House. God help us if the GOP loses the House next year.

cajunpatriot on August 9, 2013 at 5:31 PM

The Republican Party is a stupid, suicidal entity that will not exist in 20 years.

Boehner and McConnell are leading the party into the elephant graveyard. The Democrats have played them for the morons they are. I won’t shed a tear when the republicans are gone, not one.

Conservchik on August 9, 2013 at 5:32 PM

I have zero respect for Paul Ryan — sellout and liar.

Conservchik on August 9, 2013 at 5:33 PM

It doesn’t matter. Boehner won’t bring it for a vote without support from 100+ Republicans in the House. God help us if the GOP loses the House next year.

cajunpatriot on August 9, 2013 at 5:31 PM

The GOP controls the house? Who knew?

bgibbs1000 on August 9, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Luis is a liar, but then, he’s also a Democrat. So, pardon me for repeating myself.

HiJack on August 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

I don’t believe the Republican Party can be fixed. Not that it is going to matter after amnesty, the Republicans will forever be irrelevant. If I hadn’t already quit the party, I would now upon this action. They don’t want me, they are embarrassed by me, they resent me. All they want is my money, but I have already been fooled the requisite number of times, so third party for me.

Aodhan on August 9, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Name names

SouthernGent on August 9, 2013 at 6:17 PM

“If they asked me today, go find those 40 or 50 Republicans, I’d tell them I found them,” Gutierrez said. “I know where they’re at. They’re here. They’re present.”

Probably how they’re going to vote. Look what it did for Barry.

Robbin Hood on August 9, 2013 at 6:20 PM

What exactly are those 40-50 Republicans signing up for? Are they onboard with the Senate Gang of Eight bill, the House Gang of Seven plan, some sort of path to citizenship, a path to legalization, or something else?

Allah, this is completely irrelevant. As long as Republicans stand for anything else than solving the illegal alien problem through deportations, the re-engineering of American citizenry and eletorate by politicians happens (nation with a government not the other way around, my a##), which means that Republicans according to Churchill established what they and only negotiate the proverbial price.

Valkyriepundit on August 9, 2013 at 6:26 PM

*established what they are

Valkyriepundit on August 9, 2013 at 6:29 PM

more people denouncing their American citizenship

US CITIZEN NO MORE

ChunkyLover on August 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I have no idea what Democrat is opposing Paul Ryan in 2014, but he/she/it will be getting a contribution from me.

bw222 on August 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM

How does anything you argue here stop amnesty?

oldroy on August 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Roy I don’t mean call you out specifically but the downer attitude is unbecoming to all of you roys that have thrown in the towel. If you truly believe it is over then what the heck is your tactic?? whine?

They are in recess until mid-September. There will be no votes until they get back. They have been isolated in DC and now they are coming home. Obama and the dems are playing this for the beginning of the 2014 cycle in April. They are making a desperate bid for the house and the GOP side wants the senate.

Have you called your house member? call another one in the district you work in? Your parents or anybody else’s that you can claim a link to? I’ll bet none of them will ask you to change your position. If they tell you one thing and vote different that’s their fault. You and I can’t make them enforce immigration laws in any way other than to get some reinforcements in there that think like the electorate.

Good grief don’t just stand there crying about it. Go down swinging. We’re on the same side. Calm down and get engaged. Too many on this board are letting the demedia play to their emotions. They’re really just a bunch of skinny queers on the east coast playing with you. Ignore them unless you have their attention and then mock them. That is what they are doing to us. We are Brietbart!!

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Cantor’s “Dream act” is Reid’s end of story….

Go ahead owngoal this in conference GOP….

I have been on the edge of starting plan B for about 8 years now…

You want to enable donk policy and attack the GOP working poor and lower middle class?

I am gonna help you get donk policy by voting donk.

harlekwin15 on August 9, 2013 at 7:44 PM

DanMan,

I’ve given 25 years to the GOP….

they do not listen and they refuse to be an opposition party…

so that being the case why oppose the democrats with my money or my vote?

Eric Cantor you just created another GOPer for Hillary!

harlekwin15 on August 9, 2013 at 7:46 PM

TRAITORS!!!

Unwilling to defend our sovereign borders!!

PappyD61 on August 9, 2013 at 8:00 PM

harlekwin15 on August 9, 2013 at 7:46 PM

same here on donations but some are the opposition, hence we get a Ted Cruz. Let’s face it, the old guard are making so much noise because they are getting pounded as they lose influence. I’ll jump in with both feet when the times to burn the place down but we aren’t there yet. We’re in the first week of a 6 week break and WE appear to cratering over media driven schlock.

Let’s all buck up not play the media’s game. Congress is on break. Kick back knowing they aren’t doing anything.

DanMan on August 9, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Gutierrez said Republicans who support the idea are staying deliberately quiet to avoid a backlash from conservative activists.

Rumor mongering. Rumor and Incinnuendo. To quote Boston’s Mayah Menino.

Fleuries on August 9, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Please pay attention.

DanMan

Says the guy who has deluded himself into believing “nothing is going to happen on immigration”, lol.

It’s a done deal, and has been for months. The House WILL pass amnesty by the end of the year.

xblade on August 9, 2013 at 8:23 PM

I’ll probably just stop voting.

claudius on August 9, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Unlike Clinton, Gutierrez (D-Mexico) has been inhaling again.

GarandFan on August 9, 2013 at 9:15 PM

This. Everyone needs to sit back and relax. There have been a gajillion “press releases” saying Amnesty is going to pass before (you pick one: next week, the recess, the end of the Fiscal Year, the next mid terms, etc.) honestly, we get something new every week. This is just a couple people trying to keep the idea there and toss a bone to the Hispanic vote.

Johnnyreb on August 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Huh. This is exactly what people told me about Obamacare. First, it was, don’t worry, it will never pass. Then, it was, don’t worry, it will be overturned by SCOTUS. Then, it was, don’t worry, it will be defunded. Now, I’m hearing don’t worry about Amnesty, it won’t pass…yeah, right. Forgive my skepticism.

idalily on August 9, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Our country is in peril.

roux on August 9, 2013 at 9:56 PM

How about we elect some illegals to take THEIR jobs?

flataffect on August 9, 2013 at 11:58 PM

I want to know who they are….so I can help vote their @sees out of office!

How about you @assholes…
- Pass the 1st budget in 5 years 1st…
- Stop the IRS from targeting Americans & hold someone accountable 1st
- Stop Obama’s/the NSA’s violation of our 4th Amendment Right 1st
- Hold ANYONE accountable for Obama’s 4+ scandals 1st
- De-fund Obamacare that 60+% of Americans want ended 1st

I would even settle for an explanation as to WHY you thing ignoring protecting our borders & helping Illegals before helping your own citizens is your top priority!

easyt65 on August 10, 2013 at 1:45 AM

How about we elect some illegals to take THEIR jobs?

flataffect on August 9, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Elect“?

What a quaint notion.

Obama can simply issue one of his all-purpose executive orders.

If obstructionists in Congress won’t resign, I’ll just replace them with Dreamers…”

profitsbeard on August 10, 2013 at 10:10 AM

If this is true, then the Republican Party will be persona non grata with the Tea Party.

dverplank on August 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM