Uh oh: Chuck Schumer suddenly okay with House GOP’s piecemeal approach to immigration reform

posted at 7:21 pm on August 7, 2013 by Allahpundit

The chief Democratic spokesman for comprehensive reform is suddenly mellow about the Republican approach?

Dude, I’m nervous.

“I actually am optimistic that we will get this done,” Schumer said about a bill taking shape in the House during an interview on CNN. “I’ve had a lot of discussions with various members of both parties in the House. Things are moving in the right direction.”…

“We would much prefer the comprehensive bill, but any way the House can get there is all right by us,” Schumer said.

Actually, let me rephrase. Dude, I would be nervous if I thought the House Republican leadership was serious about a piecemeal approach. But they aren’t. When push comes to shove, they’re comprehensivists too:

First, passing tougher enforcement measures before August would take all the momentum away from other more divisive measures, such as giving “Dreamers,” the children brought to the United States illegally, a legal option for staying in the country. While House leaders publicly insist on dealing with the immigration issues separately, they privately are wary of letting their piecemeal approach be taken out of context.

Second, voting on border security before August would hand Democrats a gift-wrapped political cudgel, a case that again paints Republicans as interested only in legislation that cracks down on immigrants. Or, as one senior House leadership aide put it, “all you did was pass bills that on the surface look discriminatory.” A month of ads smacking Republicans for being anti-immigrant was not a happy prospect.

The point of the piecemeal approach in theory is to start with border security, force both chambers of Congress to focus on that as leverage for serious action, and then deal with amnesty once that’s done. Schumer’s betting that House Republicans will go through the motions of a piecemeal approach in order to try to placate people like you and me and then simply agree to stitch their various bills together into one big comprehensive bill in the conference committee with the Senate. That’s a piecemeal means to a comprehensive end. What good is that? No wonder Schumer doesn’t object.

Speaking of the conference committee, though, the big fear among border hawks is that the House will pass something tough on border security and then gut it during the conference, replacing it with something resembling the Gang of Eight’s crapola instead. What’s the advantage to Boehner, Cantor, and the rest of the GOP leadership in doing it that way, though? Do they think conservative media won’t notice that the substance of the House bill has been radically softened? If anything, trying to pull a fast one like that in order to pass a bad bill will be perceived as even more of a stab in the back by conservatives than simply bringing the Gang of Eight bill to the floor and voting on that. If Boehner wants to pass some sort of amnesty while keeping his fingerprints off it as much as possible, his best bet is to very quietly encourage Pelosi to pursue a discharge petition and to very quietly assure amnesty-leaning House Republicans that they’ll suffer no reprisals from the leadership for voting with the Democrats on it. That way he can pretend that the Gang of Eight bill passed against his will and against the will of the House GOP majority while also letting the RNC take credit for “bipartisan passage” by pointing to the 20-30 rogue Republicans who ended up voting with the Democrats. Or maybe that’s what Schumer has in mind: If the conference committee forges a new, terrible bill, Boehner could feign opposition while a Democratic-led discharge petition conveniently forces him to bring the bill to the floor for a vote. A betrayal is coming; the only question is how.


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F*ck You Schumer to the rescue!

Be afraid, my friends. Be very afraid.

Resist We Much on August 7, 2013 at 7:24 PM

As the Whopper said in War Games,

The only way to win this retarded, anti-American, anti-nation game with the lowlife dems and lowlife Rubios is not to play. The House had better not pass ANYTHING concerning “immigration” or giving aid and comfort to invading illegals. NOTHING.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on August 7, 2013 at 7:29 PM

A month of ads smacking Republicans for being anti-immigrant was not a happy prospect.

So WHAT exactly would you do FIRST?

We tried the ‘amnesty’ part before? 1986?

Stop worrying about the freaking ‘Hispanic vote’.

GarandFan on August 7, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Why can’t we enforce the laws currently on the books?

John the Libertarian on August 7, 2013 at 7:34 PM

One party rule…

voiceofreason on August 7, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Dude, I’m nervous.

You, we, should be.

Bmore on August 7, 2013 at 7:37 PM

“Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian.”
― Robert Orben

jpcpt03 on August 7, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Senor Boehner is the weakest House Speaker EVER.

SouthernGent on August 7, 2013 at 7:37 PM

How far can you throw Schumer?

docflash on August 7, 2013 at 7:39 PM

“Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian.”
― Robert Orben

jpcpt03 on August 7, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Exactly. If the Indians had been smarter they might still exist as nations. Let’s not duplicate their idiocy.

sharrukin on August 7, 2013 at 7:41 PM

and to very quietly assure amnesty-leaning House Republicans that they’ll suffer no reprisals from the leadership for voting with the Democrats on it.

They’d better come from safe RINO districts.

Wethal on August 7, 2013 at 7:41 PM

I am afraid.

However. I don’t trust the National Journal piece, which was linked at HA several days ago.

And I still think no House Republican would sign a discharge petition.

I think the Dreamer idea, floated by Boehner, may have been just that…a trial balloon; perhaps even intended to provide some cover for not granting amnesty — “we offered a Dream act, and amnesty activists insisted on all or nothing”

I am afraid, however, of the story linked yesterday (?) that amnesty advocates plan to send acctivists to August townhalls to persuade Republicans that they have to have a comprehensive bill.

Now my congressman is rock solid. But I can’t go to his townhall. So, I am taking a letter to his district office to assure him that

(1) only 5% of Americans care about immigration “reform”
(2) they should be focussed — to the exclusion of all else — on Obamacare, jobs, and spending
(3) if they do anything, it ought to be a stand alone, build the fence, border security bill
(4) if the House Republicans surrender on a Gang of 8 style amnesty bill, they better start looking for another line of work because conservatives by the millions will abandon them
…I intend to remind him that House Republicans had better actually do something that shows they care about conservatives. And the only thing I know they can do, not some “symbolic” vote or just talk about defunding, is kill the bill

EastofEden on August 7, 2013 at 7:42 PM

There’s no way you can reconcile a piecemeal approach with the senate’s comprehensive bill.

So let things cool down, let the senate bill expire, and down the road (over a year) start all over, with a house led effort. And this includes only security and e-verify first. No contingent amnesty, because even if the contingency isn’t satisfied (as security), we’ve learned from the 1985 bill that the amnesty goes forward anyway. Have security et al in place for at least 5 years, then think about amnesty. Anything else would be a major betrayal, and that includes what the [expletive deleted] Paul Ryan is doing.

anotherJoe on August 7, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Even the Stupid Party must know by now that no matter how tough enforcement is, Obama will just ignore those parts of the law. Conservative voters certainly know this.

Wethal on August 7, 2013 at 7:43 PM

The chief Democratic spokesman for comprehensive reform is suddenly mellow about the Republican approach?

Dude, I’m nervous.
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Ya,it normally means a BOINKING OVER is coming by Team
Democrat DeCeptionists!!!

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Don’t believe a word of it. Schumer is a liar and a professional schemer.

ultracon on August 7, 2013 at 7:48 PM

nervous. polls are in our favor on this; majority WANT a real piecemeal approach. same as o-care repeal: we are with the american people. and THAT “scares” some of “us”. pathetic. is being a complete panty-waste the only possible answer here? i am afraid its not.

t8stlikchkn on August 7, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Any chance of making it through the year without a garbage amnesty bill making it through?

Ukiah on August 7, 2013 at 7:49 PM

The plan is to get it to committee, at which point the “compromise” will be the bill the Dem’s want, and that the RINO’s have already agreed to. Once it passes, I’m giving up on the GOP altogether, and only voting third party for the remainder of my life.

You can only piss on my head and tell me it’s raining for so long before I finally give up on you telling the truth. The GOP is at that point now in my book.

Wino on August 7, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Even the Stupid Party must know by now that no matter how tough enforcement is, Obama will just ignore those parts of the law. Conservative voters certainly know this.

Wethal on August 7, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Indeed. And the next president, should they be be a Dem, will ignore the parts of the law as well. This is the dangerous precedent that Obama has set for our country: Not enforcing laws he doesn’t like. This should scare any rational person, no matter what their political persuasion.

visions on August 7, 2013 at 7:51 PM

There is no sense in pretending that both “sides” in D.C. want this to pass. New voters for Dems, defund border security, low priced workers for Republican donors. Everybody is happy but the citizenry and no one cares about them.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2013 at 7:52 PM

The point of the piecemeal approach in theory is to start with border security, force both chambers of Congress to focus on that as leverage for serious action, and then deal with amnesty once that’s done.
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Now thats Logical, me thinks!

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 7:52 PM

“We would much prefer the comprehensive bill, but any way the House can get there is all right by us,” Schumer said.

It would be better to actually push for enforcement of the laws on the books instead of making new ones. The House GOP should be spending their time on oversight of issues like the IRS and NSA snooping instead of even considering immigration reform. The crux of the matter is amnesty for the illegals and that shouldn’t even be on the table until DHS does its damn job and stop the free influx of little brown criminals, people that overstay their visas, and other ways one creates an illegal alien.

Happy Nomad on August 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM

I still can’t get my head around this notion: There is a political party in the United States that openly supports letting people sneak into the country illegally and openly opposes any effort to stop them.

Is that actually in the Democrat Party platform? It sounds a little wacky to me but maybe I’m not getting it.

IndieDogg on August 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM

There is no sense in pretending that both “sides” in D.C. want this to pass. New voters for Dems, defund border security, low priced workers for Republican donors. Everybody is happy but the citizenry and no one cares about them.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Cindy Munford:Must you use COMMON SENSE,in your response(s)!—
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canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I suspect Schumer may have been told by the Republican leadership that they will give the Democrats what they want as long as they go along with a feeble and doomed effort on border security.

sharrukin on August 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Results for #immigration
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https://twitter.com/search?q=%23immigration&src=hash

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM

It sounds a little wacky to me but maybe I’m not getting it.

IndieDogg on August 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM

you must be new to the country. welcome aboard newcomer. but yes, we DO have total self-destructive polticians bent on destrying their own country; our country. yep. thats the problem. still wanna stay here? cause they run the effing show now and we’re all headed down the rest of the putrid socialist worlds toilet real soon. last thru the door of a bad idea. we’re geniuses.

t8stlikchkn on August 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM

There is a political party in the United States that openly supports letting people sneak into the country illegally and openly opposes any effort to stop them.

Is that actually in the Democrat Party platform? It sounds a little wacky to me but maybe I’m not getting it.

IndieDogg on August 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Bush tried amnesty in 2007 and the Republicans tried it again just recently.

Both parties openly support it.

sharrukin on August 7, 2013 at 7:58 PM

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I’m disgusted with the whole lot of them. I just don’t see any other explanation for their stupidity.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM

IndieDogg on August 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Your talking about a bunch of people who justify spying on the citizenry to “protect” them from terrorists while leaving the border wide slam open. Don’t try to make sense of them, just know you’re getting mugged.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Why can’t we enforce the laws currently on the books?

John the Libertarian on August 7, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Seems simple, no?

Current laws are not enforced and new laws/regulations are decreed without legislation. And the guys and gals that are supposed to be on our side just sit on their hands or stick their heads in the sand.

4Grace on August 7, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Cantor made it pretty clear that this is exactly the way their going to sneak it past us.

This is how they will kill America- with a thousand cuts.

We should all be keeping copious notes on this.

So we can read it back to them on the day that they hang.

sartana on August 7, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Go to hell Schumer.

TX-96 on August 7, 2013 at 8:06 PM

The plan is to get it to committee, at which point the “compromise” will be the bill the Dem’s want, and that the RINO’s have already agreed to. Once it passes, I’m giving up on the GOP altogether, and only voting third party for the remainder of my life.

Wino on August 7, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Huge sentiment that many share. McCain himself says that amnesty won’t get us a single Hispanic vote. Not even one vote. But McCain and others want to “defuse” the amnesty issue thinking that will ultimately get us some Hispanic votes. No. Low income illegal Undocumented Dem future voters are going to want redistributive income, and that means that they are going to be Democrat from now on out.

“Defusing” the issue does not help us among Hispanics, but hurts us badly among the base and among the independent white voters. Look, we do amnesty, and the “missing white vote” next time and in 2014 will be so huge that Repubs are going to see loses across the board. The Dems will say “yes we agree Obamacare is horrible, so let’s pass single payer because we got the senate and the house by a huge margin.”

anotherJoe on August 7, 2013 at 8:08 PM

MeanWhile,…………………………

Mark Zuckerberg’s Immigration Reform Group
Launches August Recess Ad Offensive
Aug 7, 2013 5:57pm
*******************

Two days after Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg offered his first public comments about immigration reform since launching a political action committee devoted to the issue in April, the group, FWD.us, is taking to the television airwaves with a six-figure ad buy aimed at persuading on-the-fence members of Congress to back reform, ABC News has learned.

Timed to coincide with the month-long Congressional recess – a prelude to a contentious fall debate over immigration issues on Capitol Hill – the new ad features Alejandro Morales, an undocumented immigrant who came to the United States from Mexico when he was seven months old. Morales attended the Marine Math and Science Academy in Chicago and joined the junior ROTC. However, because of his immigration status, he says he is barred from serving.(More..)
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/08/mark-zuckerbergs-immigration-reform-group-launches-august-recess-ad-offensive/

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 8:08 PM

We’re the only industrialized, “western” country on earth that chooses to not enforce immigration laws and border security. Even Lefty countries in the EU have strict immigration controls and they actually enforce them. That’s because it’s common sense. Same goes for Canada and Mexico. Mexico has a militarized southern border.

On top of this, we accept almost 1,000,000 legal immigrants per year, the most in all of human history, by far. No one ever mentions this in the Amnesty debate.

No civil society can survive open borders and a massive welfare state, and yet we have both.

visions on August 7, 2013 at 8:15 PM

As a member of the House in 1986, Schumer was none of the biggest liars who promised enforcement after amnesty and did everything possible to oppose enforcement.

bw222 on August 7, 2013 at 8:15 PM

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I’m disgusted with the whole lot of them. I just don’t see any other explanation for their stupidity.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Cindy Munford:

Cindy,irregardless,of the Mexican/USA historical
differences,I cannot see,nor understand how any
other country,on the planet,tolerates there borders
being violated!

I can tell you,that if I tried to sneak into Sault Michigan,
illegally,I would be dealt with!

USA/Canadian borders are serious business,and I’m glad for that!:)

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 8:18 PM

***************** Woo-Hoo *********************!!

Roger Smith ‏@Nuk3dawg 3m

A betrayal is coming;

the only question is how #immigration http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/07/uh-oh-chuck-schumer-suddenly-okay-with-house-gops-piecemeal-approach-to-immigration-reform/ … via @hotairblog

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23immigration&src=hash

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Chuckie Schumer doesn’t say or do anything like that without the absolute slimiest of intentions.

Stu Gotts on August 7, 2013 at 8:28 PM

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 8:08 PM

I heard a pro amnesty ad on a pop music station while driving home tonight. It was sponsored by the National Association of manufacturers.

bw222 on August 7, 2013 at 8:30 PM

this will just be the first cave. The left is already beating the drums for medical care

Specifically, the immigration reform bill that passed through the Senate includes language that bars an immigrant woman who is working to obtain citizenship from utilizing means-tested federal benefits like Medicaid for a minimum of ten years. She will also face a five-year delay under the current law if she does not naturalize as soon as possible, after the initial ten-year period.

The five-year waiting period was imposed on permanent, legal residents as an inclusion to the Affordable Care Act (ACA) for benefits like Medicaid. Given that the goal of the Medicaid program is to reduce financial barriers to essential health care for low-income families, this limitation affects those who already face tremendous obstacles to quality health-care services and do not have the ability to pay for care out-of-pocket.

when Vicente Fox was prezy of Mexico he wanted a union with the US…one feature of which was the the incomes of the citizens of each country would ‘converge’

well…there you go…open borders…lower this country’s income. Wonderful.

there’s a lot of big europhiles (like Soros)…lowering the US will help the EU lots…big win.

r keller on August 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS lives over in East Texas not far from Rockwall Texas, so the wife being a local leader, state operative, and sometime national delagate for the R party the Goldwater, Reagan, Ted Cruz kind goes today to a Republican lunch in Rockwall Texas.

She and a lady buddy go sort of unoffical and sit in the middle of them and did not say much thinking that Ralph Hall might show and have some info on what is going on in D.C..

Sure nuf, in he comes with his local office manager (driver as Ralph is 92 now and the most sr. house member ever).

When they get done with the pledge, prayer ect. the mc says Ralph you have any thing to report from D.C.?

“Well yes, I put in an immigration bill as we closed up and came home.” “It will be the likely bill that the House votes on and passes.”

“It is a three year , three step deal.”
“First year we secure the border.”
“Second year all the illegals report to the county clerks of the U.S. and or city halls ect. and report their status.”
“Third year all of them start to get “legal” and “right” with the system.” “All of this is only if the border is secure.”

He is not a nut case, but he is a save district, the voters here love him and would not vote him out if he outright said amnesty out loud. So something seems to be up.

The do intend to vote somehow to cover up the 50 years of crimes they have committed regarding the fact they by greed and derilection of their duty by hook or crook as they always do.

Shame they use an old and faltering WWII vet.

But they have no honor.

They sit arms lenght from the traitor John F. Kerry and not one of them call him out or just turn their backs on the sucm, they just call him “Senator or My Good Friend”

It is we who are to blame for allowing this scum in D.C. to rule of the good people of America.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on August 7, 2013 at 8:39 PM

With or without a somewhat truncated lifespan …..
If this ammnisty deal goes through in the house
I will do all I can to destroy the existing GOP .

Lucano on August 7, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Would you buy a used car from this puke?

RdLake on August 7, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Don’t be mad at Schumer. Be mad at Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, and all the others who treat you with contempt and act behind your back.

Mark1971 on August 7, 2013 at 8:48 PM

….the left always gets what they want incrementally….they ask for the sun…and we give them the moon….every time!

KOOLAID2 on August 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM

canopfor on August 7, 2013 at 8:18 PM

I have heard that Mexico has a very very strict southern border. We are just income to Mexico.

Cindy Munford on August 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Shumer knows that Obama will just waive the border enforcement elements, the way he waived Congressional staffers from Obamacare.

John the Libertarian on August 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Don’t be mad at Schumer. Be mad at Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, and all the others who treat you with contempt and act behind your back.

Mark1971 on August 7, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Precisely. I know who the predators are, it’s the slimy gutter snakes posing as our leaders and friends that we have to watch.

arnold ziffel on August 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Precisely. I know who the predators are, it’s the slimy gutter snakes posing as our leaders and friends that we have to watch.

arnold ziffel on August 7, 2013 at 8:58 PM

There are three kinds of predators in the world. The first shows you his knife, says he’s going to cut you, and proceeds to do so.

The second tells you that, while he has a knife, there’s no way on earth he will cut you … and then proceeds to do so.

The third, and the one to fear the most, tells you that, while he has a knife, there’s no way he will cut you. And, in his heart, he really, really believes that he’d never cut you or anyone else … and then proceeds to do so.

The Schumers of the world are in the first category, and I respect them for that, at least I know from where they come, and can defend.

The second and third categories, unfortunately are where the Boehners and Cantors, etc., are found.

All are armed and dangerous, but the last two have the best chance for doing the most damage.

Be warned.

TXUS on August 7, 2013 at 9:20 PM

GOP will just get destroyed these next two elections if they pass this.

WisCon on August 7, 2013 at 9:23 PM

The fundamental problem is that we haven’t secured our southern border and continue to incentivize its breach. The illegal population establishing itself here presents consequential problems to be sure (to themselves and to the legal population), but those are secondary and resultant from the fundamental problem. The Senate’s bill is “comprehensive” only in its astonishingly elaborate structure of obfuscation and misdirection.

Barnestormer on August 7, 2013 at 9:26 PM

I heard a pro amnesty ad on a pop music station while driving home tonight. It was sponsored by the National Association of manufacturers.

bw222 on August 7, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Businessmen should care about the future. It’s where most of a firms profits are. But the morons at the National Association of Manufacturers want cheap labor now at the cost of onerous regulation and taxation in the future. It’s really frustrating when you want to support business leaders.

thuja on August 7, 2013 at 9:34 PM

The last laugh is going to be on late great Republican Party. Bumbles could have killed this bill immediately, instead he’s going to kill the Republican party.

AmeriCuda on August 7, 2013 at 9:43 PM

When this passes, and it will, are you going to keep voting GOP?

Panther on August 7, 2013 at 9:46 PM

keep calling and writing notes to the gop…..maybe even return their surveys with the message NO MORE MONEY UNTIL YOU KILL ANESTY AND DEFUND OBAMACARE!!

Maybe Chuckles Schumer is getting some of the same messages??

PappyD61 on August 7, 2013 at 9:54 PM

It’s a trap

tommer74 on August 7, 2013 at 9:59 PM

We’re done. As is GOP.

riddick on August 7, 2013 at 10:38 PM

The “conservative media” is about selling gold and reverse mortgages, everything else is secondary.

NoDonkey on August 7, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Don’t be mad at Schumer. Be mad at Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, and all the others who treat you with contempt and act behind your back.

Mark1971 on August 7, 2013 at 8:48 PM

This is true. It’s like passing the buck and pointing the stink-eye at lobbyists or others offering a “bribe”. It’s not their fault. It’s the fault of the one’s who accept the bribe. If politicians were honest and didn’t give them the power, the lobbyists would have no effect.

Mimzey on August 7, 2013 at 10:53 PM

What is this? POS night on HotAir? Damon? Schumer?

Look, when the Howard Metzenbaum of New York says he’s OK with something, that means there is something way wrong with ‘something’.

KirknBurker on August 7, 2013 at 10:56 PM

A betrayal is coming; the only question is how.

Even AP’s beginning to recognize my foresight.

The GOP will betray you

True_King on August 7, 2013 at 11:07 PM

If an immigration bill gets sneaked through the House it will be time to DESTROY the GOP. DESTROY. OBLITERATE. INCINERATE.

WE WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THE GOP AGAIN.

You getting this, Boehner? We will destroy you. DESTROY. YOU.

PD Quig on August 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Schumer is on the wrong side of every issue. It’s a shame Rubio did not understand that.

virgo on August 8, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Do they think conservative media won’t notice…trying to pull a fast one like that in order to pass a bad bill will be perceived as even more of a stab in the back…

Boehner and the country clubbers don’t give a damn. Their biggest problem is where they can fit another knife…conservatives’ back is kinda full of ‘em.

batter on August 8, 2013 at 12:42 AM

AP, you love this crap don’t you? Going down the rat maze trying to figure out what the politicians are doing gives you a woody.

Why don’t you get in the game for real either as a strategist or a candidate?

Vince on August 8, 2013 at 12:48 AM

They probably have cushy lobbyist jobs and MSM contributor spots already lined up but if they pull any stunt I hope conservatives finally walk and let the GOP die for good. That may enable a new, stronger party to rise from the ashes.

batter on August 8, 2013 at 12:48 AM

He’s just hinting that the fix is in place.
Sorry! folks! Your government is out to
screw you from the Left AND the Right.
Now shut up and pay your taxes.
Oh! And don’t forget to sign up
for Obamacare in two months…

shorebird on August 8, 2013 at 12:49 AM

“Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian.”
― Robert Orben

jpcpt03 on August 7, 2013 at 7:37 PM

If modern “Indians” object to the way people came here, how does it follow that the modern United States has no right to defend its borders and should allow people to illegally violate its sovereignty? How does that help “Indians?”

I’m not sure I follow the logic there…

DRayRaven on August 8, 2013 at 6:32 AM

If I was still a Republican, this would be raising my blood pressure. Much nicer to just sit on the sidelines and watch the party self-destruct without my assistance.

Chris of Rights on August 8, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Second, voting on border security before August would hand Democrats a gift-wrapped political cudgel, a case that again paints Republicans as interested only in legislation that cracks down on immigrants. Or, as one senior House leadership aide put it, “all you did was pass bills that on the surface look discriminatory.” A month of ads smacking Republicans for being anti-immigrant was not a happy prospect.

The question isn’t comprehensive vs. piecemeal, the question is WHY does border security=anti-immigrant? The republicans need to stop using the progressive/msm terms and correct the record as often as they can.

1) Border security=national security. How long before the American hating Islamists take advantage of our loose border?

2) Republicans aren’t anti-immigrant, we’re anti ILLEGAL immigrant. There is a big difference and we allow Dems to blur that distinction.

hopeful on August 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Congressional Republicans are perfecting the art of fragging conservative citizens. It’s bad enough to confront fire from the progressives, but to add “friendly fire” is just too much to tolerate.

Between Obama willfully ignoring the Constitution, selectively enforcing laws, administratively gutting others and sniveling turncoats like John “we’ll just gut border security after the bill is passed” McCain we find ourselves in an age of federal lawlessness.

ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS!!! Do that 1st and then we’ll talk.

in_awe on August 8, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Gee it’s not like I didn’t call out this being Schumer and likely the GOP’s game when McCain and Graham-McCain and Mark the Rube started the ploy….

go ahead and owngoal the conference House GOP…we gifted you the house in 2010 and I will happily give the hammer back to Pelosi in 2014…

if I wanted democrat policy I’d vote democrat and if you give me democrat policy I will vote you into oblivion.

harlekwin15 on August 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM