RNC issues ultimatum to NBC and CNN: If you want to air GOP debates in 2016, cancel your Hillary movies

posted at 12:41 pm on August 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

I’m confused. Even if both networks yield to the RNC’s demands, their intent to promote Hillary has already been proved. Why trust them to be “neutral” arbiters going forward just because the movies end up being canceled under pressure?

Is Candy Crowley suddenly a legit moderator again if “Hilary! The Movie” suspends production?

Today Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Reince Priebus sent a letter to Robert Greenblatt, Chairman of NBC Entertainment, and Jeff Zucker, President of CNN Worldwide, calling on their networks to cancel their attempts to influence Americans’ political decisions. Both networks are airing programs promoting former Secretary Hillary Clinton ahead of her likely candidacy for president in 2016. NBC has announced plans to air a miniseries, while CNN is producing a documentary. If the productions are not canceled prior to the start of the RNC’s Summer Meeting, Chairman Priebus will seek a binding vote of the RNC to prevent the committee from partnering with these networks in 2016 primary debates or sanctioning debates they sponsor.

“It’s appalling to know executives at major networks like NBC and CNN who have donated to Democrats and Hillary Clinton have taken it upon themselves to be Hillary Clinton’s campaign operatives,” said Chairman Priebus. “Their actions to promote Secretary Clinton are disturbing and disappointing. I hope Americans will question the credibility of these networks and that NBC and CNN will reconsider their partisan actions and cancel these political ads masked as unbiased entertainment. If they have not agreed to pull this programming prior to the start of the RNC’s Summer Meeting on August 14, I will seek a binding vote stating that the RNC will neither partner with these networks in 2016 primary debates nor sanction primary debates they sponsor.”

Read Priebus’s letter to NBC. He notes — correctly — that the parent network of MSNBC is, necessarily, not real trustworthy to begin with. He notes — correctly — that an awful lot of money has been raised for Democrats by execs at Comcast, NBC’s own parent network. (He also notes — correctly — that NBC’s Hillary boosterism hurts her Democratic rivals for the nomination as much as it hurts the GOP.) And then … he essentially offers to go through with the debates if the Hillary movie is spiked. Why?

Zeke Miller of Time floats a compelling theory:

Reforming the primary debate process has been a central component of the RNC’s 2012 autopsy, with party officials trying to restrict the number of debates and screen out unfriendly debate moderators. But the effort to cut back on the number of debates has run into headwinds from Republican state parties in early states, who in many instances see revenue from co-hosting the debates and associated events. The autopsy recommends changing the RNC rules to include penalties for Republican state parties or candidates if they participate in debates unsanctioned by the RNC.

To date that provision has not caught on. But Priebus’s letter is designed to make that easier when the Republican National Committee meets in Boston next week to discuss the debate schedule, according to one member of the Republican National Committee. “If they have not agreed to pull this programming prior to the start of the RNC’s Summer Meeting on August 14, I will seek a binding vote stating that the RNC will neither partner with these networks in 2016 primary debates nor sanction primary debates they sponsor,” Priebus wrote in his letter.

Republican Party officials believe the 20 GOP primary debates during the 2012 cycle hurt their party and Mitt Romney, the eventual nominee. They proposed a more modest 10-12 debates, in part to protect better-funded candidates from insurgents who capitalize on their time before the cameras.

Priebus has indeed been calling for fewer debates for months. The more debates there are, the more chances there are for promising candidates to stumble fatally (like Rick Perry did) and the more chances there are for grassroots upstarts like Ted Cruz to make inroads at the expense of the establishment’s preferred candidates. But how can the RNC call for fewer debates without antagonizing the grassroots (and the state parties looking to make a buck from them)? Simple: Frame it as a war on media bias. Although, again, that raises the question of why the RNC even gave NBC and CNN a chance to retain their debate rights. Why not just declare the Hillary movies an unpardonable act of partiality and pull the plug? If they promised CBS and ABC exclusive network rights to carry the debates, the public pat on the back for comparative objectivity (emphasis on “comparative”) might make those nets a teensy bit better disposed towards the GOP and its nominee going forward than they’d otherwise be.

I guess Priebus figures there’s no way that either CNN or NBC will bow to their demands here, in which case it’s better for PR reasons to offer them a choice and have it be rejected than to simply pull the plug unilaterally. This way, with the RNC having now framed the issue as a test of the networks’ biases, when they go ahead and insist on airing the movies anyway, it’ll look like they’ve knowingly and willingly chosen to stick with Hillary boosterism than be neutral brokers in 2016. There’s some political value in that for Republicans, for this news cycle at least.

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I’m confused. Even if both networks yield to the RNC’s demands, their intent to promote Hillary has already been proved. Why trust them to be “neutral” arbiters going forward just because the movies end up being canceled under pressure?

You can’t spell stupid without RNC Allah.

I weep for the future.
-_-

Gatsu on August 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Less debates, please.

rob verdi on August 5, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Suddenly I should take seriously a person with the first name of “Reince?”

Galtian on August 5, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Just cancel all debates moderated by the LSM. Simple…..

nobar on August 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Don’t worry, the GOP corpse is merely doing some postmortem flinching. It’s really dead.

faraway on August 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM

That’ll show ‘em! (NBC/CNN can still pick the moderators though)

ctmom on August 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM

please kick Iowa to the last primary while we are at it. End all the Caucuses actually

jp on August 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM

If the RNC had any brains they would drastically reduce the number of debates and NEVER EVER allow Democrat operatives in the MSM to run them. Do not appear on enemy networks.

echosyst on August 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Hey RNC, I’ve got a better idea.

Let them run 100 Killary movies….but the RNC will not
agree to any of these networks moderating the Presidential
debates….yeah, O.K., that would require them to have
a certain part of the Male anatomy…

Now back to our regularly scheduled RNC wuss fest.

ToddPA on August 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM

I would settle for a accurate portrayal.

2Tru2Tru on August 5, 2013 at 12:51 PM

One thing that has to go is news critters as moderators. Candy Crowley putting down the bucket of chicken just long enough to lie about what the rat-eared wonder said about terrorism during his Benghazi statement should have killed off all journalists as objective arbiters of time.

Make these debates interactive and have real people ask real questions which are going to be about jobs, national security, and the economy not the pre-staged questions on Obamacare, amnesty for the illegals, and whether sodomite marriage should be a federal law.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 12:52 PM

I don’t care if the Hillary hagiographies air or not. It’s pretty clear the only people watching will be people who were going to vote for her anyway. But I totally agree the RNC debates should not be moderated by anyone in the media. They are not trustworthy (Candy Crowley proved that).

RebeccaH on August 5, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Why partner with the MSM at all? Throw a debate and allow the MSM to cover it. No more Candy Crowleys.

ChamomileTea on August 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Just cancel all debates moderated by the LSM. Simple…..

nobar on August 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM

That would be the correct decision to make. Just do them on the internet, if they must, with really neutral moderators (if there is even such a thing), or forgo the debates altogether. I wouldn’t miss them.

hawkeye54 on August 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM

please kick Iowa to the last primary while we are at it. End all the Caucuses actually

jp on August 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM

As I posted on another thread. If I’m concerned about what midwesterners think about the election, I’m asking people in Columbus and not Des Moines. If I want to get a view overall, I’m going to the biggest bluest states and asking voters their views there and not screwing around with caring about who wins the GOP primary in SC or Alabama. This isn’t about electability as much as it is about focusing on what matters and a nasty food fight between Republicans in South Carolina just makes the entire party look bad.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 12:56 PM

I guess the people who are so vocally opposed to the Hilary movie by Citizens United will suddenly vanish into the woodwork for these pro-Hillary propaganda pieces?

Funny how that works. Just like the anti-War movement.

p0s3r on August 5, 2013 at 12:56 PM

I definitely agree with the debate problem. Too many and the mods are always libs. Candy crowley lying during a debate and retracting after was the last straw.

Jack_Burton on August 5, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I would settle for a accurate portrayal.

2Tru2Tru on August 5, 2013 at 12:51 PM

The Omen?

Oil Can on August 5, 2013 at 12:57 PM

My prediction:

NBC and CNN call the RNC’s bluff, telling them to go pack sand.

RNC caves and goes crawling back to NBC and CNN on their hands & knees, begging them to air the debates.

UltimateBob on August 5, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Do not appear on enemy networks.

echosyst on August 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM

So, which networks would that leave?

EEprom on August 5, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Why partner with the MSM at all? Throw a debate and allow the MSM to cover it. No more Candy Crowleys.

ChamomileTea on August 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Agree. Have pundits moderate. AllahPundit/Erika could do the first one (cute chick + guy with bag over head) – it would draw millions of viewers.

faraway on August 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM

RNC issues ultimatum to NBC and CNN

You make-a me laugh.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA.

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Why so bold?

faraway on August 5, 2013 at 1:00 PM

I’m more concerned about the format and moderators for the general election debates.

aunursa on August 5, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Why partner with the MSM at all? Throw a debate and allow the MSM to cover it. No more Candy Crowleys.

ChamomileTea on August 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM

I’m not convinced debates really do all that much in a 24/7 news cycle. OFA got some great material from Newt as he attacked Mitt- vulture capitalism for example- but there was a bloody row in South Carolina that did nothing to help the GOP primary process.

I say throw the debate but in order to ensure viewership get Honey Boo Boo to moderate or somebody else that would attract LIVs like moths to a flame.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Meanwhile, cover your azzes.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:01 PM

One thing that might win over the grassroots would be to change the way the moderators are picked. Instead of just “news critters” as Happy Nomad observed, pick out some Republican experts on the various topics and let them have at it. I thought the foreign policy debate co-hosted by American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation was very well done. Get away from just the soundbites and push for some more detailed discussion of issues. Stop wasting time on questions about abortion and birth control that are only ever asked of Republicans to paint them as heartless extremists.

Jill1066 on August 5, 2013 at 1:01 PM

finally the RNC is waking up

burserker on August 5, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Don’t worry, the GOP corpse is merely doing some postmortem flinching. It’s really dead.

faraway on August 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM

THIS.

Awwwwwww, so saaaaad. Now the Progressives will only have one mask to hide behind to market their freebies for liberty goodies.

So vweerrry sad.

Buh-bye you pathetic republican leadership team.

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 1:01 PM

The dumb party is still dumb.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Hey, in the meanwhile, the terrorists have won, in all ways.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Agree with nobar

Why deal with these idiots

cmsinaz on August 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

The RNC will cave. Democrats are already talking about how good the LONG LONG RNC process for a candidate totally favors Hillary. The Democrats MSM have already crowned Christie as the best RNC candidate, so the rest are wasting our time. The RNC can’t run any women or blacks (Democrats will not allow it), and Hispanics or Latinos are pushing their luck if they run.

If the RNC doesn’t throw Christie out, I may vote for Hillary!

Karmi on August 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

It’s all just posturing for the little people; a bit of Kabuki to keep them believing that the two parties don’t shame the same goals.

When a Paul Ryan says defunding Obamacare isn’t the way to kill it, and Obama waivers Caongress twelve hours later … well, screw you, little guy.

M240H on August 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Just cancel all debates moderated by the LSM. Simple…..

nobar on August 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM

First, turn on your priciples, idiotic R/Cs.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM

The obama/Romney debates made zero difference.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Or… force them to have a pundit co-host.

Rush, Palin, Kraut, Kristol, Eric, etc.

faraway on August 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM

CNN = “Cable News Network.”

A “Hillary!” “documentary” doesn’t really fit that bill, does it?

steebo77 on August 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Suddenly I should take seriously a person with the first name of “Reince?”

Galtian on August 5, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Whenever I see the name “Reince Priebus” I get a mental image of Prince complete with purple sequined jacked and ruffles. I don’t know why.

Fenris on August 5, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Just more red lines.
Written in mucho, mucho, red ink.
.
The more things change……

FlaMurph on August 5, 2013 at 1:06 PM

I love it when the RNC acts like it actually has any power, influence, or political capital to speak of.

steebo77 on August 5, 2013 at 1:06 PM

please kick Iowa to the last primary while we are at it. End all the Caucuses actually

jp on August 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I’d be all up for scrapping primaries and let the candidates going around the country making the case for electing them and then fighting it out for delegate and party support at the convention, bringing back real significance and intensity to the conventions which are now little more than grandstanding and publicity events for the party any more.

hawkeye54 on August 5, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Why does everything seem so much larger these days?

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 1:07 PM

CNN = “Cable News Network.”

A “Hillary!” “documentary” doesn’t really fit that bill, does it?

steebo77 on August 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM

If it is actually a documentary instead of a hagiography it does. Sort of.

Fenris on August 5, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Fair!? You’re expecting NBC & Comcast to be fair?!

AFTER LAST TIME! Sounds like the ole’ “Trust me, baby” thing again.

How about every candidate running in a Republican Primary pledge to not advertise on NBC or Comcast? That might be a start.

CiLH1 on August 5, 2013 at 1:09 PM

My favorite anagram of the name “Reince Priebus” is definitely “Crisp Bee Urine.”

steebo77 on August 5, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Let them have their I Love Hillary episodes and then make them give the RNC the same air time free, to do with as they please.

scalleywag on August 5, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Why does everything seem so much larger these days?

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Just put a picture of Christie up next to the text.

Problem solved.

steebo77 on August 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Hah, hah, old media

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

A strongly worded letter? Pffft.

lynncgb on August 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

In a sane world Crowley would be banned from all debates.
And yeah, why is the print suddenly so large?

Rose on August 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Why does everything seem so much larger these days?

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Wiener’s imagination

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Can we also cancel the oversized text?

“The Text is too DAMN BIG!!!”

nobar on August 5, 2013 at 1:11 PM

In a sane world Crowley would be banned from all debates.
And yeah, why is the print suddenly so large?

Rose on August 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Why do you hate cows?

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Cancel the freakin’ debates, they’re a farce. I’m still retching when I think of zero continually calling out to Candy to help him.

Eren on August 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Prince Rebus strikes again!

mojo on August 5, 2013 at 1:13 PM

The RNC is just getting around to the way NBC works?

JR on August 5, 2013 at 1:13 PM

The obama/Romney debates made zero difference.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM

.
Ahh, perhaps.
.
But at least for one night,Oct. 3rd, 2012, the Progtards cried and screamed- and their lives were filled with terror, oh for those few glorious days.
.
Yes albeit, just until the next debate, as we found out.
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I cling, therefore I am.

FlaMurph on August 5, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Mugabe strikes, again…oh wait, it’s obama.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:15 PM

So, the RNC will take their toys and go home, huh?

Yup — that’ll fix the MSM real good! /

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM

FlaMurph on August 5, 2013 at 1:14 PM

obama is illegitimate in his 2nd term. He won like Mugabe just did, in Zimbabwe.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Just put a picture of Christie up next to the text.

Problem solved.

steebo77 on August 5, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Wow, that does work! He’s like the Stay Puft marshmallow man.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM

The RNC is worried more about it’s media than it’s voters…..oh, sorry, they’ll have 20 million more newly legal Hispanics to vote for them after AMNESTY.

Doesn’t look like Hillary has anything to worry about from the TeaParty types since the RNC is busy pissing on their base.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tea-party-plans-abandon-gop-143208281.html

MIAMI (AP) — This wasn’t the revolution the tea party had in mind.

Four years ago, the movement and its potent mix of anger and populism persuaded thousands of costumed and sign-waving conservatives to protest the ballooning deficit and President Obama’s health care law. It swept a crop of no-compromise lawmakers into Congress and governor’s offices and transformed political up-and-comers, including Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, into household names.

But as many tea party stars seek re-election next year and Rubio considers a 2016 presidential run, conservative activists are finding themselves at a crossroads. Many of their standard-bearers have embraced more moderate positions on bedrock issues such as immigration and health care, broadening their appeal in swing states but dampening grass-roots passion.

“They keep sticking their finger in the eyes of the guys who got them elected,” said Ralph King, a co-founder of the Cleveland Tea Party Patriots. “A lot of people are feeling betrayed.”

The tea party is a loosely knit web of activists, and some are hoping to rekindle the fire with 2014 primary challenges to wayward Republicans. But many more say they plan to sit out high-profile races in some important swing states next year, a move that GOP leaders fear could imperil the re-election prospects of former tea party luminaries, including the governors of Florida and Ohio.

“It changes the playing field for us,” said Tom Gaitens, former Florida director of FreedomWorks, a political action committee that has spent millions of dollars to help tea party candidates. “The most powerful thing we have as a movement is our feet and our vote.”

In the summer of 2009, tea party supporters stormed congressional town hall meetings, shouting down lawmakers who had voted for the bank bailout and the stimulus package. The movement’s voice grew louder after Democrats passed the health care overhaul, and voters took their outrage to the polls in 2010. The tea party wave stunned Democrats and many moderate Republicans, sweeping the GOP into control of the House and changing the balance of power in many statehouses.

But not long after some tea party stars took office, political analysts said, they were forced to adapt to a changing landscape, particularly in states Obama won in 2012, and to the realities of governing.

The tea party also fell out of favor with many people. At its height after the 2010 elections, a CBS News poll found that 31 percent of those surveyed considered themselves tea party supporters. A May survey found just 24 percent identified with the movement.

Facing sagging approval ratings, tea party Republicans, some of whom were elected by slim margins, shifted tactics.

Fla. Gov. Rick Scott (who forced a trial of George Zimmerman when he knew the evidence was a joke), a former health care company executive who won office by attacking the health law and calling for deep cuts to state spending, later endorsed the health law and signed one of the largest budgets in state history, complete with pay raises for teachers. Similarly, Gov. John Kasich (Obama golf buddy), R-Ohio, and Rick Snyder, R-Mich., are battling their GOP-dominated legislatures to expand Medicaid, a big part of the health law.

Tea party supporters were most struck by Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants. His personal story and unlikely rise to power made him perhaps the most prominent figure in the movement.

As a Senate candidate in 2010, he denounced as “amnesty” any plan that would offer a path to citizenship for those who were in the country illegally. Yet in recent months, he has emerged as a leader of a bipartisan Senate group that developed a plan that includes such a provision. The plan has been panned by conservatives but ultimately could bolster Rubio’s standing with Hispanics, a growing demographic group that has voted overwhelmingly Democratic in recent years.

One sweltering July day, a half-dozen tea party protesters gathered under a tree in front of Rubio‘s Miami office, seeking shade as they denounced his support for an immigration overhaul. But the protest soon turned into more of a support group, with the four men and two women grousing to each other about how Rubio had turned into a “back-stabber,” a “liar” and a “flip-flopper.”

Juan Fiol, a real estate broker who organized the protest, kept looking at his phone, waiting for calls from fellow tea party supporters that never came.

“It was supposed to be a big event,” he said as he waved a large “Don’t Tread on Me” flag.

The movement’s top strategists acknowledge the tea party is quieter today, by design. It has matured, they said, from a protest movement to a political movement. Large-scale rallies have given way to strategic letter-writing and phone-banking campaigns to push or oppose legislative agendas in Washington and state capitals. In Michigan and Ohio, for example, leaders have battled the implementation of the president’s health law and the adoption of “Common Core” state school standards.

Local activists say they have focused largely on their own communities since Obama’s re-election and the ideological drift of some tea party-backed politicians. Many are running for school boards, county commissions and city councils, focusing on issues such as unfunded pension liabilities and sewer system repairs.

“The positions that people are filling at the local levels are more important for the future of the movement and the future of the country,” said Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder of the Tea Party Patriots, a national umbrella organization. “It’s creating a farm team for the future.”

The Republican establishment, however, is concerned about 2014. Party leaders worry about the GOP’s most passionate advocates walking away, particularly those supporters angered by the Senate’s immigration bill. In a nod to the tea party, business and conservative groups have launched ad campaigns recasting the bill as a national security measure.

The conservative American Action Network spent $750,000 on pro-reform commercials. One ad aimed at Florida voters called the legislation “the toughest border security plan ever passed by Congress” and urged viewers to thank Rubio for “keeping his promise and fighting to secure the border.”

National tea party leaders (How many of them are actually republican consultants and “thinkers”) hope to re-energize followers by focusing on two of the movement’s chief targets: the Internal Revenue Service and the health law. They said the Obama administration had handed them a recruiting tool when it delayed the law’s implementation and when the IRS singled out tea party groups and other conservative political organizations for special scrutiny.

“The very issues that brought us together in the first place are emerging as more center stage than they were in 2009 and 2010,” said Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks (which paid off Dick Armey $8 million to leave the organization). “That animates the political conversation and mobilizes our grass roots going into the 2014 election.”

Some Republicans (those up for re-election) are also moving to repair their relationships with the movement.

Rubio recently spoke to about 50 conservative activists and other lawmakers at a meeting of the Senate’s tea party caucus. Organizers said he breezed past immigration, instead devoting much of his speech to repealing the health law.

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM

At least someone is trying to do something to point out that this is free campaigning for the inevitable Dem. nominee…

sandee on August 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Who cares about debates anymore? They were somewhat useful in the 1970s-1990s when people lacked information about candidates and their views. The internet has made debates obsolete. Just end them.

AngusMc on August 5, 2013 at 1:18 PM

The RNC needs someone running it who is full blown Psycho.

you knowm, so they could match up well with the DNC chair.

ToddPA on August 5, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Can we also cancel the oversized text?

“The Text is too DAMN BIG!!!”

nobar on August 5, 2013 at 1:11 PM

On a PC you can control it yourself, + or -, or CTRL and mouse wheel rolls….

Resize it however you like.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM

On a PC you can control it yourself, + or -, or CTRL and mouse wheel rolls….

Resize it however you like.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 5, 2013 at 1:22 PM

that should be CTRL + or CTRL -

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Priebus probably has a good idea here. Rather than letting left-wing networks present Republican debates, where the commentators throw mud at all the Republicans as right-wing loons, why not let the debates be aired by Fox News or by local news outlets who only broadcast to one state?

On a more pressing issue, the RNC needs to plan on two-round primaries for nominating Senate candidates in 2014. The first round can have as many candidates as choose to run, then the top two vote-getters meet in a runoff two or three weeks later.

With such a system, the eventual nominee is guaranteed majority support within the party, and also gains name recognition during the runoff campaign. Also, if an upstart candidate might be gaffe-prone, the runoff campaign might expose some gaffes BEFORE such a candidate is in a general election against a Democrat.

Incidentally, this is the system that gave us Senator Ted Cruz. Why not use it in other states?

Steve Z on August 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Less debates, please.

rob verdi on August 5, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Fewer. “Less” takes an object.

Agree with nobar

Why deal with these idiots

cmsinaz on August 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Perhaps you don’t know the RNC’s duties.

It’s apparent you’ve not donated to a national campaign. You’re probably one of those who expects others to fund your fury. You’re typical of Tea Party knownothings in this regard.

desde Wikipedia:

…It is responsible for developing and promoting the Republican political platform, as well as coordinating fundraising and election strategy. It is also responsible for organizing and running the Republican National Convention. Similar committees exist in every U.S. state and most U.S. counties, although in some states party organization is structured by congressional district, allied campaign organizations being governed by a national committee.

Capitalist Hog on August 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM

My prediction:

NBC and CNN call the RNC’s bluff, telling them to go pack sand.

RNC caves and goes crawling back to NBC and CNN on their hands & knees, begging them to air the debates.

UltimateBob on August 5, 2013 at 12:58 PM

They better not cave. It’s bad enough the RNC was even considering allowing NBC to host any of their 2016 primary debates. But to issue an ultimatum like this and then backtrack would probably be the straw the broke the camel’s back for a lot of us out there who feel the Republicans have no b@lls when it comes to dealing with Democrats and the media(I know, I’m being redundant).

Doughboy on August 5, 2013 at 1:28 PM

OMG – the RNC finally found a PAIR !!!!!
(They must have borrowed them from Ted Cruz !)

TeaPartyNation on August 5, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Capitalist Hog on August 5, 2013

You send that email yet?

CurtZHP on August 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

It’s a head fake, this is more about establishing a frontrunner early by limiting camera time for other candidates, and has almost nothing to do with CNN and NBC.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

OMG – the RNC finally found a PAIR !!!!!
(They must have borrowed them from Ted Cruz !)

TeaPartyNation on August 5,

More like a stomp-your-foot-little missy-tantrum sounds like. And who in their right mind would revisit that mess after stephanopolugus smacked them around with planted hit questions? Losers. All of them.
The first thing they should do is rise up against their attack dog “moderators” with every racist, biased, baiting statement they ever made about the tea party and conservatives in general. Stephiepoo should have been challenged for being the Clinton hit man he was. Planting fraudulent pieces in the lsm of political oponnents and then denying it while making derogatory comments about them.
The republican candidates should have ganged up on him, refused to allow him to ask quesitons given his biased, hateful, lying, race baiting record and insisted he leave in front of a national audience. That would be the collective of growing a pair I think.
Not that growing a pair as a group would be the best the I suppose. Still someone should have b!tch slapped that little turd after his first question. Watching him balling while running off the stage could have gotten us California I think. Well Ease LA fer sure.

onomo on August 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Is Candy Crowley suddenly a legit moderator again if “Hilary! The Movie” suspends production?

I’m holding out for “Hilary! The Musical!” featuring the hit songs You Can’t Keep a Good Man Down (Bill’s Theme), Hilary Get Your Gun and So Long, Ron Brown, It’s Been Good to Know You/Paper Airplanes Mash-Up!

cynccook on August 5, 2013 at 1:47 PM

I want debates, but not the kind that Romney had to put up with, with liberal MSM network stars.

I think each party should get to choose a host for each debate, so there will be two sets of questions, for each candidate, and they will get a question from a republican journalist and from a democrat one. They can be partisan questions (since they were already) and can be the same subject asked a different way. There were no debates run by conservatives for Romney’s election, they lied and said Candy Crowly was conservative and they lied and pretended that Martha Raddatz was an Objective journalist ahead of time. So, Reince, now is the time to tell them we don’t want any of their debates, it’s not just about Hilary movies. Say we are not coming unless we can bring our own journalists to the debate. I vote for Hannity and for Rush. How about that, do you think the democrat chickens would show up?

Fleuries on August 5, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Why isn’t Joe Biden the presumptive nominee?

CurtZHP on August 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM

IMHO – The RNC erred in making this a negotiation.

The correct statement should have been something like:

The RNC recognizes NBC/CNN’s right to support and promote the candidates of their choice in 2016. Therefore, we will not be participating in debates or making our candidates/operatives available to their reporters and outlets and they won’t have a seat on the campaign buses.

Even if you get a concession, these guys have a hundred other outlets and methods of promoting their candidate. They’ve picked their side and none of your candidates will have a minute of unbiased honest coverage for the next two years.

Stop playing their game. No negotiating. Stop giving the MSM power over our candidates.

2nd Ammendment Mother on August 5, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Why isn’t Joe Biden the presumptive nominee?

CurtZHP on August 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Because the Democrats aren’t as stupid as Republicans are.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Fewer. “Less” takes an object.

You’re typical of Tea Party knownothings in this regard.

Capitalist Hog on August 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM

If you plan to be a language cop then at least have the good manners not to commit crimes yourself; “knownothing” uses a hyphen as in “know-nothing”.

Curious you would screw up that particular word while correcting someone else, ironic even.

Bishop on August 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM

While they’re at it. Get rid of Iowa and NH (two lib states) kicking things off, and handing a RINO moderate the much needed mojo. The Republicans primaries should be launched from red states. NH and Iowa can go to the back of the line with the likes of Mass, Cal and the rest of the Blue states.

kevinkristy on August 5, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Because the Democrats aren’t as stupid as Republicans are.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Also their blatant prejudice against people with drain bamage.

cynccook on August 5, 2013 at 1:52 PM

While they’re at it. Get rid of Iowa and NH (two lib states) kicking things off, and handing a RINO moderate the much needed mojo. The Republicans primaries should be launched from red states. NH and Iowa can go to the back of the line with the likes of Mass, Cal and the rest of the Blue states.

kevinkristy on August 5, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Yes. Wouldn’t it be nice if the RNC actually listened to Republican voters? They could send out a real survey to get input on issues like this instead of all the phony ones that are just scams to get money from us.

cynccook on August 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Also their blatant prejudice against people with drain bamage.

cynccook on August 5, 2013 at 1:52 PM

That’s a lie.

Look at Filner, Weiner, and Hank Johnson. They are very inclusive with regards to the brain damaged community.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 1:56 PM

What can be done to speed up the process so Jeb bush can graciously lose to Hillary?

RNC goal #1

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 2:00 PM

That’s a lie.

Look at Filner, Weiner, and Hank Johnson. They are very inclusive with regards to the brain damaged community.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Hmmmm….I dunno about that. It seems like they’re only tolerant of the condition as long as the sufferer can pass as normal. As soon as their symptoms start to show….it’s Debbie Wassername who?

cynccook on August 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Suddenly I should take seriously a person with the first name of “Reince?”

Galtian on August 5, 2013 at 12:46 PM

I feel sorry for his brother “Repeat”.

Iblis on August 5, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Those who want more debates or as many debates as 2011-2012 are plain stupid… Debates are about zingers and empty rhetoric and nothing of substance… It is the ultimate gotcha circus… Five debates and that is it…

mnjg on August 5, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Hillary/Jeb

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Hmmmm….I dunno about that. It seems like they’re only tolerant of the condition as long as the sufferer can pass as normal. As soon as their symptoms start to show….it’s Debbie Wassername who?

cynccook on August 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM

I don’t think I like the idea of Hank Johnson being ‘normal‘, but you do have a point. They seem rather ruthless when it starts to embarrass the party.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton will be our next POTUS.

That tragedy will be the result of Tea Party malpractice, malfeasance and malodorous supporters.

Priebus the Prince is feckless. His decrees are mocked almost as much as those issued by Steele.

MSNBC is a needle in the DNC vein. They’re symbiotic…or more like a a Human Centipede. MSNBC is probably going into emergency-production of another Hillary movie starring Lawrence O’donnell as Hillary.

CNN will cave.

RNC will in true form also cave even though they did not have to.

I am right. You are welcome.

You send that email yet?

CurtZHP on August 5, 2013 at 1:34 PM

You still __________ that chicken?

I unlike every one of my cowardly detractors don’t whine about words used against me. I reply with my own words.

I notice you and your gaggle fantasizing about me in qotd. What’s her face, um, hornetsting emerged from her “bubble bath” wondering if I was still around.

Thanks for the option to live rent-free in your mind; I wish there was more space up there.

You’re still an anti-Muslim, anti-black and anti-gay bigot. Your retort will plead otherwise. But your past words belie your true feelings about Muslims, Latinos, homosexual men and African-Americans (other than Allen West or perhaps Alan Keyes).

Capitalist Hog on August 5, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Fired from the Watergate investigation for being “unethical and lying,” Whitewater, FBI files in her office when First Lady illegally, Benghazi, etc., etc.

Irony is, if these were LEGITIMATE documentaries about Hitlery, she would be completely and forever done in politics and a pariah in her personal life.

PJ Emeritus on August 5, 2013 at 2:05 PM

What can be done to speed up the process so Jeb bush can graciously lose to Hillary?

RNC goal #1

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 2:00 PM

That’s weird: I was laughing at this comment at first, but now I can’t seem to stop crying…

cynccook on August 5, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I feel sorry for his brother “Repeat”.

Iblis on August 5, 2013 at 2:03 PM

I feel worse for his sisters Spitz and Swallow.

Capitalist Hog on August 5, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Big talk. Yawn.

LtT26 on August 5, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Yeah, that’s it. Act like Democrats, bullying the media into saying what you want them to say.

They could have just said “we’re not working with you”, as if they had a pair of balls, and walked away looking strong. Instead, they have further made themselves indistinguishable from their political “opponents”.

MadisonConservative on August 5, 2013 at 2:07 PM

The embarrassment of losing to Hillary will be devastating.

MT on August 5, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Hitlery

FAIL!

Capitalist Hog on August 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM

the squishy gop will cave…

all hat no cattle

cmsinaz on August 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM

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