Embassy closures extended until Saturday

posted at 8:01 am on August 5, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The unprecedented closures of almost two dozen American embassies will continue for almost another week, the State Department announced yesterday, following intelligence that pointed to a massive al-Qaeda plot against American diplomatic facilities.  The decision continues to raise eyebrows even as members of Congress tell the media that the threat is the most serious they’ve seen in years. CBS News reports this morning that the threat level is the highest since 2006, and will continue to be until there is “clarity” on the actual plot:

In these cases, it’s difficult to second-guess the security reaction without knowing what the intelligence actually states.  Both Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill apparently agree with the assessment, which indicates that it’s clear enough to remove the usual politics from the calculations.  However, this news comes as quite a shock after hearing the Obama administration brag throughout 2012 that “al-Qaeda is on the run.” To put this threat into perspective, the US has never had to close so many embassies at once in the face of a security threat — not even during wartime against actual existential threats such as Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.  This action makes it very clear that the rumors of AQ’s demise were greatly exaggerated.

Jeffrey Goldberg wonders whether the threat now isn’t being greatly exaggerated, too — or at least the American response to it:

It seems as if al-Qaeda, or its Arabian Peninsula branch, has succeeded in terrorizing the United States of America again, but this time without – as of this writing – detonating an ounce of C4. It doesn’t strike me as a wise idea to preemptively shutter 21 different American embassies across the Middle East and North Africa in response to NSA-collected terrorist chatter. What message does this post-Benghazi, “don’t say we didn’t tell you” move send to the citizens of the Middle East, who, it is our hope, understand the United States to be a powerful and fearless country dedicated to openness and to the defeat of fanaticism? We have already muddied any message of fearlessness by turning our embassies into bunkers. Now, we are admitting that these bunkers aren’t safe. What next? Virtual embassies on Facebook? Ambassadors who never leave Washington?

The Administration tells us that the heightened threat of al-Qaeda terror extends through the end of the month. Is the State Department going to keep its diplomatic fortresses closed through September 1? Late this afternoon, State announced that 19 diplomatic posts are going to stay closed until August 10; others, including those in Baghdad, and Kabul, of all places, are scheduled to reopen Monday. It is unclear if these closings will be extended, or if the reopening embassies and consulates will again be closed. It could be that many of our diplomats — who, by the way, are still living in the target countries, just in less secure locations, generally, than embassy compounds – will not be at work for awhile.

Goldberg also notes the sudden reversal of the Obama administration on the health of AQ:

As a public service, let me translate this warning for you: “Dear U.S. citizen: So, it turns out that al-Qaeda has not been defeated. In fact, its operatives want to kill you. Mainly, they want to kill you if you happen to be in one of the following 21 countries. Also, by the way, they want to kill you in the U.S., but right now let’s not talk about that, and focus on the immediate threat. We don’t know where, when or how al-Qaeda is going to try to kill you – probably August, if it makes you feel any better. In the past, al-Qaeda terrorists have targeted planes, trains, and automobiles, as well as large buildings, and small buildings. Also, boats. Our suggestion is that you not leave your hotel. And stay out of the lobby! Lobbies are dangerous. Actually, come to think of it, al-Qaeda has also targeted hotels in the past, so maybe you should just leave your hotel now, but through the kitchen, or the service entrance. But try to avoid people, and also places where there are people, once you have left your hotel. If you want to come home, please do so, but just be very careful at the airport. Thank you for your attention to this matter.”

As Goldberg notes in his conclusion, the State Department had to issue its warnings after the threats surfaced.  To refuse to do so for political purposes would have been criminal neglect had an attack materialized, and some believe that already happened once before — in Benghazi.  But perhaps the threat and the current reaction to it would have been taken more seriously had the current administration not spent 2012 dancing on the grave of a terrorist group that turned out to be alive and well after all.


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It’s just an extension of the celebration of Teh SCOAMT’s birthday </sarcasm?>

BTW, welcome back, Ed. You missed ripping into the GDP disappointments and the jobs disappointment.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:04 AM

Welcome back, Captain!

22044 on August 5, 2013 at 8:04 AM

I though AQ is on the run?

If an impending and real attack is known, why would we advertise we know about it? Isn’t that a breach of security, risking assets we have that gave us the information? Something doesn’t seem right with all of this.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Its all so odd. Al Qaeda was defeated, now they are not.

rob verdi on August 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Mmmm, good thing we’ll be closing down that consulate in Benghazi so Ambassador Stevens will be safe…….

What?……..the devil you say!…….how many dead?

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Welcome back Capt’n ED:)

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Good to see you got back unsunk and unsullied, Ed.

This is just another example of the toothless resignation of the regime to third world supremacy. What ever happened to Captain Drone, the Vanquisher of Al Queda and the Deadly Nemesis of Bin Laden. In the radicals eyes, they have won.

ironked on August 5, 2013 at 8:13 AM

But it’s not al-Qaeda al-Qaeda.

Syzygy on August 5, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Skepticism is the operative byword.

rplat on August 5, 2013 at 8:14 AM

From Egypt:Video

Enjoy!

You Obama, your father, your mother! Hey Obama supports the terrorism!

سما المصري تفشخ اوباما وتسبه بالاب والام

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL_mEYP8N-A

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 12:26 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:15 AM

OT: I wasn’t aware that we have such a great problem with an enemy within.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/01/mexican-cartels-recruiting-hit-men-from-ranks-us-military/

Has Hot Air covered this?

And we’re allowing so-called dreamers to enlist?

BuckeyeSam on August 5, 2013 at 8:15 AM

We should just keep some of these places permanently closed.

Oil Can on August 5, 2013 at 8:17 AM

“We’ve always been at war with Al Qaeda…”

Why does that sound so familiar?

turfmann on August 5, 2013 at 8:17 AM

All this means is that obozo is a coward and his administration is incompetent. But y’all knew that already.

Flange on August 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM

I was talking with a couple fellow retirees the other day and the chief topic was how far we’ve regressed in foreign policy and what a waste their efforts were.

All of the Arab Spring intervention has failed or turned on it’s own people. We are at a point where half of the world thinks the US is a joke because there is no real fear of our military. The other half hates us for arming rebels in Syria who ended up being Al Qaeda terrorists.

obama has managed to make Putin look like the Middle East’s savior.

Oh, and our military still fights under a ROE that favors the enemy and our embassies aren’t safe to be within blocks of.

I wish some of the Hot Air liberals would join in these discussions. Defend this administrations foreign policy.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM

“We’ve always been at war with Al Qaeda…”

Why does that sound so familiar?

turfmann on August 5, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Unless we’re arming them in Syria.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM

All of this comes from the evils of progressivism:

Weakness breeds contempt.

Ask Putin about the contempt he has for Obama.

Who here holds no contempt for this administration for it has worked hard to earn that contempt.

Sherman1864 on August 5, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Unless we’re arming them in Syria.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM

And Libya.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:21 AM

I wish some of the Hot Air liberals would join in these discussions. Defend this administrations foreign policy.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Their only ‘defense’ would be we’re Conservatives, and we’re all a bunch of racists. That’s all the ‘defense’ they need.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Plugs Biden had it reversed last year when he said Detriot was alive and Al Qaeda was dead.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Expiration dates

cmsinaz on August 5, 2013 at 8:26 AM

However, this news comes as quite a shock after hearing the Obama administration brag throughout 2012 that “al-Qaeda is on the run

Don’t be a moron. You see, the original Al-Qaeda has been decimated. It’s these new, loosely affiliated bands of terrorists that are causing the trouble. They’re not even remotely related to the decimated al-Qaeda. Bin Laden is dead, you see.

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BacaDog on August 5, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Obama’s Words:
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Obama Brags

“Al-Qaeda Is Defeated” on Same Day US Death Toll Reaches 2,000 Deaths
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Published on Oct 1, 2012
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Yesterday the number of US fatalities in Afghanistan reached 2,000 after two US soldiers were killed by Afghan soldiers. In response to this grim milestone Barack Obama bragged yesterday in Colorado that Al-Qaeda is defeated. What a bad joke.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy_Z_zA2rZ4

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:26 AM

This is because the Middle East has become so peaceful, due to Obama of course, that embassies are no longer needed.

Everyone just hugs out their problems now. And its all thanks to that speech Obama gave in Cairo.

Gatsu on August 5, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Exactamundo Liam @8:22

cmsinaz on August 5, 2013 at 8:28 AM

There is no more Al Qaeda.

The White House has exterminated what was left by drone strikes over the last few years for the Muslim Brotherhood. Al Qaeda, to the extent it ever really existed, had outlive it’s usefulness and had become a hindrance for the MB and they were wanting to be done with them.

If there even is a legitimate threat necessitating the temporary closure of embassies worldwide, other than kabuki clown theater to throw sand in the eyes of Americans who are paying attention, it has nothing to do with “al Qaeda”.

sartana on August 5, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Merely another Obama distraction from the “phony” scandals.

RoyalFlush on August 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

How many times during the 2012 campaign did we see Obama’s line in his best black-minister cadence, “And today Al Qaeda is on the run, and Osama bin Laden is dead.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39_MDzf7zPM

What a phucking joke Obama is.

BuckeyeSam on August 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Sherman1864 on August 5, 2013 at 8:20 AM

That off mike comment from obama to Dmitry Medvedev still amazes me. If that was not enough to get our media to do it’s job, nothing will. Any Republican would have been crucified for it.

obama visibly cowered before him. Pathetic.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

The decision continues to raise eyebrows even as members of Congress tell the media that the threat is the most serious they’ve seen in years.

Ambassador Stevens raises a cold dead hand to disagree……

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:31 AM

But perhaps the threat and the current reaction to it would have been taken more seriously had the current administration not spent 2012 dancing on the grave of a terrorist group that turned out to be alive and well after all.

As I posted on another thread, there is no good choice here because the existence of Islamic terrorism has been denied by this administration. By their accounting there has not been a domestic terror attack involving the religion of peace since the 9/11/01 atrocities.

That denial has consequences. The Pax Americana has long included the sure knowledge that an attack on American interests anywhere in the world will be dealt with. The Taliban tested that with the 9/11/01 atrocities and found an America willing to fight back. After five years with a coward and appeaser in office- the 9/11/01 atrocities would involve getting a strongly worded letter. The terrorists no longer fear American retribution and with the current administration in charge there is no reason why they should.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 8:32 AM

This action makes it very clear that the rumors of AQ’s demise were greatly exaggerated.

Those weren’t rumors, they were campaign slogans.

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Unless we’re arming them in Syria.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM

hawkdriver:Good morning Hawk,speaking of Syria:)
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Syrian rebels seize anti-tank missiles in raid on army base
BEIRUT | Sat Aug 3, 2013 12:30pm EDT
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(Reuters) – Syrian rebels captured an ammunition depot north of Damascus from President Bashar al-Assad’s forces on Saturday, activists said, seizing a hoard of anti-tank missiles and rockets which will strengthen their firepower after a string of defeats.

Video footage of the raid showed delighted rebel fighters carrying out boxes of weapons from the arms cache in Denha, near the town of Yabroud, following an overnight attack
(More…)
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/03/us-syria-crisis-rebels-idUSBRE97208C20130803

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Giving away Benghazi as a sacrificial lamb, now the closing of these embassies is a clear green light to AQ, Iran, Assad and others to proceed with whatever plans they have—ie, attack israel.

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Liberalism is a mental disease. I used to think that was a funny catchphrase, but now I believe it in earnest. There is no base in truth for any of their beliefs. The know what they feel and feel what they know.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 8:34 AM

This action makes it very clear that the rumors of AQ’s demise were greatly exaggerated.

Those weren’t rumors, they were campaign slogans.

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Remember, all Barack Obama statements come with an expiration date.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Hoax.

Pork-Chop on August 5, 2013 at 8:35 AM

after AQ shot down 2 MH60 blackhawks in Somalia and sent the US packing 20 years ago, the group was emboldened to carry out 9/11. History is now repeating itself. To sack the consulate in Benghazi and have the US do NOTHING about it has, once again, emboldened the terrorist group for their next attack.

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Welcome back, Ed!

Hey, I have a novel idea. Lets give the Marines guarding those embassies – BULLETS – and OMG – permission to fire on anyone running the gates or fences.

I Guaran damn tee you any attack would be short. Isn’t it about time we make it clear to certain folks we are prepared to defend what’s ours?

Oh wait. These are the jackasses who preach about a duty to run away. I must give them credit for sticking with their beliefs, even if they are mentally defective.

dogsoldier on August 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM

From Egypt:Video

Enjoy!

You Obama, your father, your mother! Hey Obama supports the terrorism!

سما المصري تفشخ اوباما وتسبه بالاب والام

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL_mEYP8N-A

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 12:26 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Oh crap..
Another YouTube video…

Oh wait…

Electrongod on August 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM

How many times during the 2012 campaign did we see Obama’s line in his best black-minister cadence, “And today Al Qaeda is on the run, and Osama bin Laden is dead.”

BuckeyeSam on August 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Oh about as many times as we saw the yellow streak down the rat-eared coward’s back.

The fact of the matter is that Obama really thought appeasing the terrorists of Hamas and giving that Cairo speech where he lauded Islam would be enough to deal with the threat from Islamic terrorism. Any facts contrary to this narrative has been ignored so that Benghazi was attacked during a spontaneous protest, Fort Hood was just a disgruntled employee, and all the other attempted and actual attacks (Little Rock, Times Square, Boston, etc) were nothing but lone wolves who had no ties to Islamic terrorism.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Speaking of Benghazi, it was likely Valerie Jarrett who issued the stand-down orders.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Oh wait. These are the jackasses who preach about a duty to run away. I must give them credit for sticking with their beliefs, even if they are mentally defective.

dogsoldier on August 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM

They don’t immediately run away. Sometimes they issue pre-apologies first.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM

The rebels are in the hurt locker right now. But those AT missiles are ultra-killing T62s, T72s and BMPs all over Syria. It is a blood bath for both sides. And we egged them on.

And Libya.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:21 AM

And Libya.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 8:39 AM

this is a token move. It’s political, there has always been a threat–hell, since before the 1983 Beirut bombing of the Marine barracks there was a threat. Now, how seriously we took those threats has certainly varied, but not the mere existence of The Threats.

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Are the embassies being closed and the staff sheltering in place, or are the embassies being evacuated and the staff moved to a place of safety? If it is the former then all we are doing is creating a target rich environment for our enemies.

meci on August 5, 2013 at 8:39 AM

What a phucking joke Obama is.

BuckeyeSam on August 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM

He’s far worse than a joke. He’s like a walking stupidity field generator. Wherever he goes, everyone’s IQ drops by 75 points.

dogsoldier on August 5, 2013 at 8:39 AM

welcome back from vacation Ed. Well deserved!

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Posture Statement

U.S. Africa Command 2013 Posture Statement (.7MB pdf) March, 2013 U.S. Africa Command’s formal report to the U.S. Senate and U.S. House Armed Services Committees

http://www.africom.mil/
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EMERGING TERRORIST NETWORKS

http://www.africom.mil/Content/CustomPages/ResearchPage/pdfFiles/2013%20AFRICOM%20Posture%20Statment.pdf

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:41 AM

They don’t immediately run away. Sometimes they issue pre-apologies first.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Yeah.

dogsoldier on August 5, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Are the embassies being closed and the staff sheltering in place, or are the embassies being evacuated and the staff moved to a place of safety? If it is the former then all we are doing is creating a target rich environment for our enemies.

meci on August 5, 2013 at 8:39 AM

that’s my question too…. I mean, c’mon. If you’re just flipping over the door sign to read “CLOSED” and keeping the whole staff in place, then this is just a symbolic move. AQ is known for not being dissuaded by something so simple as a locked door.

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:42 AM

How much about this ‘warning’ will be used to justify NSA snooping on Americans at home as well, if not more, than on terror groups outside the country? I have a feeling the story will be we need NSA snooping so it’s best to not investigate, defund, or otherwise curtail their operations.

Trouble at home, like with ‘phony’ scandals? Make up a foreign threat. It’s classic; the theories of Machiavelli are strong with this Administration.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 8:42 AM

If it is the former then all we are doing is creating a target rich environment for our enemies.

meci on August 5, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Why shouldn’t the Islamic terrorists try and kill Americans at those 19 embassies? Almost a year has passed since Benghazi and the administration has done nothing to bring those Islamic terrorists to justice even though CNN was able to sit down with one of the key figures.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 8:43 AM

Speaking of Benghazi, it was likely Valerie Jarrett who issued the stand-down orders.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM

I can easily believe this, and it would explain why Zero is working to hard to cover this up. That witch has no authority to give orders, but it is well known she runs the White House. It’s time for her to go to jail for this.

dogsoldier on August 5, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Trouble at home, like with ‘phony’ scandals? Make up a foreign threat. It’s classic; the theories of Machiavelli are strong with this Administration.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 8:42 AM

The closing of an embassy this year is the tomahawk missiling of a an aspirin factory of yesteryear…..

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:45 AM

The threat will be increased 10 fold when the film “Mohammed does Mecca” debuts on Saturday.

hip shot on August 5, 2013 at 8:45 AM

In these cases, it’s difficult to second-guess the security reaction without knowing what the intelligence actually states. Both Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill apparently agree with the assessment, which indicates that it’s clear enough to remove the usual politics from the calculations.

As far as I can tell, only the pro-NSA Congresscritters have seen the intelligence.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:46 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM

And Libya.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:21 AM

And Libya.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 8:39 AM

hawkdriver:Correct——:O
===========================

Explosive Situation:
Qaddafi’s Abandoned Weapons and the Threat to Libya’s Civilians
August 2012
***********

SCOPE AND NATURE OF THE ABANDONED ORDNANCE PROBLEM……………………………………………………9
Arms in Libya and the 2011 Armed Conflict………………………………………………………………………………………9
Background…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..9
The Abandoned Ordnance Problem…………………………………………………………………………………………………10
Post-Conflict Players………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………13
International Attention to the Abandoned Ordnance Problem………………………………………………………….16
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http://harvardhumanrights.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/libyareport.pdf

canopfor on January 21, 2013 at 10:27 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Speaking of Benghazi, it was likely Valerie Jarrett who issued the stand-down orders.

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM

She’s the Rasputin of our time.

BuckeyeSam on August 5, 2013 at 8:46 AM

AQ is known for not being dissuaded by something so simple as a locked door.

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 8:42 AM

You mean like last September 11th when these Muslim animals stormed the Cairo embassy (despite a pre-apology) and pulled down the American flag and replaced it with that of Al Qaeda? The embassy staff was locked in the building then. How much more effort would have it taken then (or now) to actually storm the building? How much has been done in the last year to make embassies more safe and I don’t mean from global warming by installing electric car chargers.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 8:47 AM

MeanWhile,……………………………………

Egypt’s President Morsi removed from power

US Sens. McCain, Graham scheduled to arrive in Egypt today, will meet with interim leaders – @*NNPolitics

13 mins ago from politicalticker.blogs.*nn.com by editor

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Hey… this isn’t a terrorist threat. There is no more terrorism… Obama put an end to all of that. It’s Man Caused Disasters! Get with the O-Program.

/J-Nap

Key West Reader on August 5, 2013 at 8:48 AM

I’m starting to get that Carter-era domestic-fiasco, international-weakness feeling. Except back then, we still had enough Americans who had that WW II sense of duty to fight back. Nowadays, we have too many white liberal elites, middle-class white dependents, and blacks and Hispanics who simply love see the US fail that we really could be in deep trouble.

BuckeyeSam on August 5, 2013 at 8:53 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:48 AM

What is it with these two jokers, going overseas to conduct diplomacy? That’s something outside the role of a Senator, far as I’m concerned. I wouldn’t want Schumer doing it under a Republican president, either. So where do McCain and Graham get off?

Of course, I expect they’ll be speaking for Obama, so he doesn’t have any objections. He gets some phoney credibility by having two RepubliDems representing him.

Our government is a mess.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 8:53 AM

MeanWhile………….Team USA is talking to Islamist Terror Organization:

The Associated Press ‏@AP 3h

Top US official meets with powerful Muslim Brotherhood figure in detention, Egyptian officials say: http://apne.ws/13RLxEO – VW
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US official visits senior Egypt Islamist in jail
By HAMZA HENDAWI
— Aug. 5 8:22 AM EDT
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CAIRO (AP) — A top U.S. diplomat met with a jailed senior leader of the Muslim Brotherhood early Monday as part of mediation efforts to end the standoff between Egypt’s military-backed government and protesters supporting ousted President Mohammed Morsi, Egyptian officials said.

The talks between U.S. Deputy Secretary of State William Burns and Khairat el-Shater, the powerful deputy head of the Brotherhood, took place in the prison were the Islamist figure is being held, the officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief the media. Burns was accompanied by the foreign ministers of Qatar and the United Arab Emirates as well as an EU envoy.

El-Shater was among a host of

prominent Islamists

arrested by authorities after the army ousted Morsi

(More…)
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/egypt-us-official-visits-senior-islamist-jail

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Giving out alerts is fine. Vigilance is the price we pay to keep our freedom. OTOH Closing operations,canceling activities and encouraging Americans to withdraw from the world is allowing the terrorists to change us. What ever happened to the notion that we should not change our way of life because of terrorists action?

KW64 on August 5, 2013 at 8:54 AM

I wrote here about how President Obama’s bold declarations of a year ago are proving to be embarassingly false.

LFRGary on August 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM

From Egypt:Video

Enjoy!

You Obama, your father, your mother! Hey Obama supports the terrorism!

سما المصري تفشخ اوباما وتسبه بالاب والام

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL_mEYP8N-A

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 12:26 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:15 AM

How the heck do you find this stuff? ;)

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I see the general consensus of the comments on this thread hasn’t changed since yesterday. Again, I hope y’all are absolutely right…this is a bunch of bs. But reality seems to differ. I can’t stand Obama as much as anyone here. Or his entire administration. But closing down over two dozen embassies like this IS NOT looking like any political posturing.

This is serious. And I for one believe in the imminent threat of this. I pray to God I’m wrong.

JetBoy on August 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Our government is a mess.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Liam:

Whats even more madening/perplexing,is that they left on Obamas request!

Two GOP’ers getting into a Democrat made Foreign Policy mess!!

This WILL BACKFIRE!!!:)

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Al-Qaida isn’t on the run, Al-Qaida is winning. Way to go Obozo. Your objectives are being realized.

TerryW on August 5, 2013 at 8:59 AM

US Sens. McCain, Graham scheduled to arrive in Egypt today, will meet with interim leaders – @*NNPolitics

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Interim leaders who the administration alternately call illegitimate because they staged a coup but legitimate enough to continue receiving military aid. What exactly is the brain trust of McCain and Graham supposed to do there other than collect fodder for yet another week of appearances on Sunday talk shows? Too bad it couldn’t be orchestrated that they find themselves holed up in the Moscow airport for weeks!

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 9:01 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:15 AM

How the heck do you find this stuff? ;)

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I see the general consensus of the comments on this thread hasn’t changed since yesterday. Again, I hope y’all are absolutely right…this is a bunch of bs. But reality seems to differ. I can’t stand Obama as much as anyone here. Or his entire administration. But closing down over two dozen embassies like this IS NOT looking like any political posturing.

This is serious. And I for one believe in the imminent threat of this. I pray to God I’m wrong.

JetBoy on August 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM

JetBoy:H/T to VorDay commenter,on the video.I nearly fell over watching it!

And its clear that Obama Administration is dealing/wheeling with
Islamist Terrorists,under the guise/ruse of Democracy!!

Look at it this way,this is what the Democrat view-point is on M.E. Democracy!!

Talk about backing the wrong horse!!————-:)

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Interim leaders who the administration alternately call illegitimate because they staged a coup but legitimate enough to continue receiving military aid. What exactly is the brain trust of McCain and Graham supposed to do there other than collect fodder for yet another week of appearances on Sunday talk shows? Too bad it couldn’t be orchestrated that they find themselves holed up in the Moscow airport for weeks!

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Happy Nomand:Lol,marooned in a USSR airport.

Egypt now,doesn’t trustthe US,or more to the point,the Obama Administration!

And,as per usual,the Dems are setting up,the GOP,….again!:)

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 9:06 AM

What is it with these two jokers, going overseas to conduct diplomacy? That’s something outside the role of a Senator, far as I’m concerned.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 8:53 AM

The bigger problem here, IMO, is the mixed signal. Cairo is so unsafe that there is a global terror alert from the US and Interpol, Americans are being advised not to travel to the region, our embassy staffs in the area are cowering behind closed doors….

And into the middle of this mess, two US Senators are taking a “fact-finding” junket to the region? WTF is up with that? At the very minimum you don’t announce the arrival of high-profile targets to the Islamic terrorists ahead of time. When they land in Cairo they could well find themselves dodging bullets the way Hillary did in Bosnia.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 9:06 AM

If this terror threat is so credible, why did Obama take the weekend off? If it is truly credible, then Obama obviously doesn’t care. Why, too, are two Republican senators going to Cairo when we have an ambassador there to speak for our country.

The more I think about this, the more messed up things are looking.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 9:06 AM

JetBoy:H/T to VorDay commenter,on the video.I nearly fell over watching it!

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM

I thought I was hallucinating from all the cold meds I’ve been taking this weekend :)

JetBoy on August 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Is it unduly cynical of me that my first thought when I saw this was: “Shut down all embassies? No specific information?” was “Security theater to make us think the Total Surveillance State is necessary and a Good Thing.” Y’know, For The Sake Of The CHILLDREEEEN.

Gosh, I can’t say that phrase any more without spitting.

Respectfully,

Brian P.

pendell2 on August 5, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Good points Liam.

bazil9 on August 5, 2013 at 9:09 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM

I thought I was hallucinating from all the cold meds I’ve been taking this weekend :)

JetBoy on August 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM

JetBoy:Lol,but this one will!:)
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Barack O’bollywood
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whx-0sBRks8

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 9:12 AM

And as canopfor points out, two of those pro-NSA Congresscritters who saw the intelligence are headed into the belly of the beast.

This is starting to stink worse than the compost pile outside the swine barn at the state fair (and yes, the Wisconsin State Fair is going on now, so there is actual waste in the compost pile).

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Its all so odd. Al Qaeda was defeated, now they are not.

rob verdi on August 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM

It’s strange how an election changes things.

Mini-14 on August 5, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 9:06 AM

If this terror threat is so credible, why did Obama take the weekend off?

It was his birthday weekend. The weather in DC was more fall-like than one would expect in the first week of August. How dare you suggest he stay cooped up at work on his birthday! ;0

If it is truly credible, then Obama obviously doesn’t care. Why, too, are two Republican senators going to Cairo when we have an ambassador there to speak for our country.

This would be the same ambassador that pre-apologized to the Islamic terrorists and thugs for a YouTube video. I wouldn’t trust her to speak for this nation (of course I would have fired her long ago). The real question is what McCain and Graham are supposed to do given that they are not foreign policy experts. At best, they will meet with the interim leaders, have a nice chat over tea, then get back on the plane with plenty to talk about on Sunday talk shows at the end of the week. It is a meaningless trip designed to give the appearance that the rat-eared coward is engaged in finding peace in the Middle East. That being said, John Kerry has been in the region, why isn’t he taking the meeting?

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Friends

bazil9 on August 5, 2013 at 9:17 AM

It’s strange how an election changes things.

Mini-14 on August 5, 2013 at 9:15 AM

The flexibility the rat-eared coward was talking about.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 9:17 AM

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Oh crap..
Another YouTube video…

Oh wait…

Electrongod on August 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Electrongod::O

D*mmitt,I just realized that NSA knows every single
time/place/persons etc.,of that video being posted,
er,linked!

Gawd,Rendition Goons are probably winging there way here!
(sarc)

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 9:18 AM

I should extend and revise my remarks. It’s strange how an election changes the “truth”.

Mini-14 on August 5, 2013 at 9:18 AM

And as canopfor points out, two of those pro-NSA Congresscritters who saw the intelligence are headed into the belly of the beast.

This is starting to stink worse than the compost pile outside the swine barn at the state fair (and yes, the Wisconsin State Fair is going on now, so there is actual waste in the compost pile).

Steve Eggleston on August 5, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Steve Eggleston:What you said:)

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Alternate headline:
Decimated Al Qaeda gets major strategic victory without firing a shot in it’s jihad war against the infidels.

paulsur on August 5, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Sometimes I wonder if Obama uses a dartboard with options pinned to it. Every morning, he tosses a dart and does whatever it says where the dart landed.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Friends

bazil9 on August 5, 2013 at 9:17 AM

bazil9:Perfect timing:)

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is something cooked up inside the Obama administration and “leaked” to the media and Congress for effect. Obama got caught snooping on American citizens. He’s got to do something to save his spying program. The weak ones who were undecided in their opinion of these programs are now solidly back in the “we need to spy on American’s” fold.

TulsAmerican on August 5, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Why do they think the terrorist threat will disappear before the embassies reopen?

President Bystander and Secretary Lurch have discovered that the terrorists have surgically implanted bombs in the stomachs of the suicide bombers. They reason that, sooner or later, the suicide bombers will have to take a crap. Close the embassies and wait them out.

Smart power.

petefrt on August 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Sometimes I wonder if Obama uses a dartboard with options pinned to it. Every morning, he tosses a dart and does whatever it says where the dart landed.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM

More likely he just does whatever Jarrett tells him to do. Every action taken by this administration is first and foremost a political decision with national consequences a distant secondary consideration. And Egypt is a particular sore point after that pro-Islam speech supposedly patched everything up with Muslims. It isn’t about who is running the country or even if our embassies in the region are in danger.

A year ago Obama declared Islamic terrorism all but eradicated by his super-smart appeasing and support of the nation’s enemies over allies like Israel. He’s super pi$$ed off today that the Islamic terrorists would do something like this to him. Don’t they know how this makes him look? Don’t they know that it might change his vacation plans which start later this week? Just who do they think they are?????

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Got to go. Hey to Canopfor on the way out. Always good to see your comments.

hawkdriver on August 5, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Barack O’bollywood
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whx-0sBRks8

canopfor on August 5, 2013 at 9:12 AM

lol Now I’m just trippin’ o_O

JetBoy on August 5, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Its all so odd. Al Qaeda was defeated, now they are not.

rob verdi on August 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Oldnuke on August 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM

The news of the week is not another terrorist threat or our response to it. Those things happen every week or two. The news is we blew another intelligence asset and/or method. Sometime in the, maybe not in dim dark, future we won’t have any warning for any of the threats. Every time news of the subject of intelligence hits the public; e.g. Bin Laden, Snowden, or embassy closures; it seems imperative to blow something.

burt on August 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Isn’t this kind of stupid? If the attack is going to be on an embassy, then they’ll just wait until they open up again. Duh.

The Rogue Tomato on August 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

This is serious. And I for one believe in the imminent threat of this. I pray to God I’m wrong.

JetBoy on August 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM

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I think this is an important point that has not been openly considered here. The Regime is going to take opposition to this set of closures and whine that conservatives and Republicans who oppose the closures are the same ones who were whining about the Benghazi attacks on an open consulate. It’s perfect liberal Democrat bait to criticize, once again, those who criticize Ø’s “lead with a behind” policies. This is the WH use of intelligence to score political points.
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Let them close all they want to close and call it “effective foreign policy and astute response.” They will certainly be setting a low bar for the next conservative president who can protect America’s interests in a true WoT without apology or mealy-mouthed restraint.

ExpressoBold on August 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM

The more I think about this, the more messed up things are looking.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 9:06 AM

He’s off for two weeks in the Vineyard, I think. It was reported Moochelle and their daughters are planning an extended vacay there.

dogsoldier on August 5, 2013 at 9:49 AM

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