Big fish: Source of new terror threat is Zawahiri’s communications with head of Al Qaeda in Yemen

posted at 4:41 pm on August 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

I’ve seen both lefties and righties suggest today that the new terror threat is being exaggerated in order to serve as a sort of ad for the NSA. Okay, but … unless I missed it, no one’s said a word about the new jihadi “chatter” being linked to domestic electronic communications. If you were looking to trump something up to make the public more chill about PRISM, that’s where you’d start; if the chatter’s exclusively foreign, then the NSA’s simply doing what everyone thought the NSA was doing in the first place.

Per the Times, not only is it foreign, it’s between Numbers One and Two:

The intercepted conversations last week between Ayman al-Zawahri, who succeeded Osama bin Laden as the head of the global terrorist group, and Nasser al-Wuhayshi, the head of the Yemen-based Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, revealed one of the most serious plots against American and other Western interests since the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, American intelligence officials and lawmakers have said.

It is highly unusual for senior Qaeda leaders in Pakistan to discuss operational matters with the group’s affiliates, so when the intercepts between the two senior Qaeda leaders were collected and analyzed last week, senior officials at the C.I.A., the State Department and the White House immediately seized on their significance. Members of Congress were quickly provided classified briefings on the matter, American officials said.

“This was significant because it was the big guys talking, and talking about very specific timing for an attack or attacks,” said one American official who had been briefed on the intelligence reports in recent days.

The Times says it knew that Zawahiri and Wuhayshi were the sources of the threat as early as Friday but sat on the information at the request of U.S. officials. McClatchy, however, did not — they published it last night. A Twitter buddy raises a point I was mulling myself: Could this mean that the U.S. knows where Zawahiri is and has held off on moving in so that they can continue to monitor his communications surreptitiously? If they’re reading his e-mail, then arguably the country’s safer with him out in the field, unwittingly telegraphing AQ’s moves to the NSA, than he is at Gitmo. But that’s all gone now, thanks to McClatchy. If they do know where he is, presumably they’re now prepared to move in with drones or troops. No use having him running around in Pakistan now that he knows we’re listening in.

As for who Wuhayshi is, if you believe CNN, he’s the new second-in-command. Not for Al Qaeda in Yemen, but for Al Qaeda globally.

Wuhayshi’s elevation would almost certainly have required communication between his organization and “al Qaeda Central.”…

CNN first reported Wuhayshi’s new role last week when Seth Jones, a Rand Corporation analyst, said the appointment had occurred. Jones called it “unprecedented because he’s living in Yemen, he’s not living in Pakistan.”…

It would also provide a broader foundation to al Qaeda’s top leadership at a time when its center of gravity has shifted from the Afghanistan-Pakistan region to the Arab world.

And it would potentially allow the group to re-tap fundraising opportunities in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries where Wuhayshi is more popular than Zawahiri, al Qaeda’s less charismatic and sometimes divisive Egyptian leader, Cruickshank said.

That makes all kinds of sense. And it may explain the nature of the new terror threat: If Wuhayshi’s only recently been appointed deputy, Zawahiri may want him to make a splash right away. Doubtless there were true believers close to Zawahiri in Pakistan who, despite the threat from America’s eyes in the sky, wanted a more exalted role in the group. Instead someone abroad was chosen. To prove himself, Wuhayshi needs to make something happen. More on him from counterterror expert Gregory Johnsen, who specializes in Yemen:

The chief threat, as Ed noted this morning, is to embassies in the Middle East, but no one’s ruling out an attempt on the U.S. mainland and this new ABC story describing an “ingenious” innovation in bomb-making sounds like something aimed more at passenger jets than at fortified buildings. The fear, per ABC’s sources, is that rather than hide a bomb in a suitcase or in a, er, body cavity, AQ might now be dipping the clothes of its operatives in an explosive solution and then leaving them to dry. That might be able to punch a hole in the side of a plane when ignited — and no, according to counterterror officials, the security theater you endure at the airport from TSA won’t detect it. Who could have guessed that Al Qaeda would change its methods 10 years after America started checking people’s shoes?

Via Mediaite, here’s Bret Baier revealing the not-so-secret reason why Susan Rice was keen to have embassies close this weekend rather than having something very, very bad happen.

Update: Good question from Josh Greenman:

The One has a funny habit of not worrying much about leaks that make him look good. Is he going to punish the person who revealed that SuperPresident is spying successfully on the leader of Al Qaeda, even though the revelation could be highly damaging operationally by tipping Zawahiri off?


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The One has a funny habit of not worrying much about leaks that make him look good. Is he going to punish the person who revealed that SuperPresident is spying successfully on the leader of Al Qaeda, even though the revelation could be highly damaging operationally by tipping Zawahiri off?

A platinum-sprayed horseturd still stinks, always.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Al it would take would be for someone (you, me, the fellow behind the tree, a foreign government) to impersonate (in communications) some “high up” al qaeda type and the U.S. government would go running around like a bunch of chickens with their head cut off.

VorDaj on August 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Impossible, Al Queda is dead, we were told this not too long ago.

Then again we were also told that Detroit is alive, and just yesterday an entire extended Detroit family was eaten by Sabertooth tigers, so maybe there was a wee bit of hyperbole attached to those statements.

Bishop on August 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM

So, we were able to ignore the hell out of bonafide terror threats for months and months while Ambassador Stevens told everybody except Santa Claus that AQ was targeting his facility. Now this.

what am I missing?

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM

The terrorists already won and are just continuing doing what they want to do.

This is all a diversion from the scandals and Benghazi. The week will be an embarrassing one for millions.

All the bad ones have to do is wait for a week, or two, or three, or four…

Those jail ‘breakes’ weren’t. It’s too coincidental to have 3000 get out in two weeks, in 3 locations.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Then again we were also told that Detroit is alive, and just yesterday an entire extended Detroit family was eaten by Sabertooth tigers, so maybe there was a wee bit of hyperbole attached to those statements.

Bishop on August 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM

kinda makes you wonder of osama bin laden is even dead, right???

questions.

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 4:48 PM

“This administration played on our fears!!!!

-Al Gore, 2004

portlandon on August 5, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Surprised we haven’t nailed this turd yet. On another note; don’t the terrorist win when they get us to shut everything down? I’ll bet they are laughing their butts off right now. We do know they watch the news don’t we? They’ll just lay low till we lift the warning. What we should do is just be more vigilent and kill them when they try something, this just makes us look weak.

major dad on August 5, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Why would Zawahiri and Wuhayshi be using email when the NSA’s activities have been plastered in the news around the world for two months?

If this is all true, then both Zawahiri and Wuhayshi are pretty stupid…and they haven’t exactly acted in such a way previously.

No, I’m not going off in an Alex Jones-false flag direction, but, think about it. Why would they be communicating in a way that could likely tip off the US?

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM

So I guess the new strategy in the War on Terror (which doesn’t exist anymore, right?) is to just close our embassies…permanently?

And let the government spy on us indiscriminately and forever?

And thank God the NY Times is on the case!

blue13326 on August 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM

On another note; don’t the terrorist win when they get us to shut everything down?

major dad on August 5, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Maybe, that’s the answer to my question. There isn’t any real attack planned by them, but their real goal was to shut down the embassies. They win without having to do anything.

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Bishop on August 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM

God love you Bishop. I laughed so good.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 4:53 PM

what am I missing?

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Pakistan + Al Qaeda = Bad

Middle East + MB + AQ = Good

Here endeth the lesson.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 5, 2013 at 4:53 PM

…the revelation could be highly damaging operationally by tipping Zawahiri off?

That’s why I think this whole story is a hype, with no one (not even Cruz) doing much complaining for compromising security. Leaks like this are what get human assets killed, if there be any. It would be bad like the NY Times releasing details of our monitoring of enemy bank accounts under Bush, neutering the program.

Unless, of course and on the off-chance, Pro-Islam Obama wanted to tip Zawahiri off, which I wouldn’t put past him.

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

So NYT can sit on a story when it benefits Obama but just HAD to publish the story about foreign wiretapping (back when we were solely wiretapping foreign sources).

Bitter Clinger on August 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Why would they be communicating in a way that could likely tip off the US?

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Possibilities…

1. They are retards

2. It isn’t them.

3. They want the US to hear what they are saying for reasons unknown.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

I should add that was under Bush.

Bitter Clinger on August 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

There isn’t any real attack planned by them, but their real goal was to shut down the embassies. They win without having to do anything.

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:52 PM

It’s a psychological game. They disrupt just by sending emails back and forth.

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

obama was sooo concerned about this that he got interrupted several times on the golf course Sat. by those actually meeting to look over the threats….

sandee on August 5, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:52 PM

They’re smarter than Susan Rice and the princeling.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 4:55 PM

I think this is hype bullshizzat because that is all were fed these days—hype and bullshizzat that are designed to move the narrative. The Narrative is that the NSA must continue siphoning every email etc., and it is for the good of the proletariat…now drink your Victory Gin fellow proles….

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I find it very hard to believe that two of the most wanted terrorists in the world are openly talking about operational details on the phone and the US just happened to catch the convos (but not the meta data, I guess, since they haven’t sent a drone to Yemen yet). These guys aren’t stupid enough to have open convos over insecure cell phones.

Look at bin Ladens security — never talked on the phone, had a courier speak in code (away from the compound) on burn phones — use once then toss. And yet we’re supposed to believe that after the snowden revelations, the terrorists became sloppier then low level drug dealers instead of more paranoid?

Either they’re testing the US, or our government completely made this whole thing up.

Timin203 on August 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM

If they blew up Congress would you really miss it?

sandee on August 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM

obama was sooo concerned about this that he got interrupted several times on the golf course Sat. by those actually meeting to look over the threats….

sandee on August 5, 2013 at 4:55 PM

…then he’ll go campaing for obama’care’ enrollments…cause it’s so irresistible…welcome to Jeantel’s world and Zimbabwe.

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Maybe it’s all the drone attacks ordered by Barky which has caused this latest counter-attack threat, I mean killing terrorists only creates more terrorists.

Wait….what year is this? Aw crap, my VP Racing Fuels calendar is still on Miss January 2005. Sorry, I forgot Dubya is no longer in charge, find a Youtube producer to blame, stat!

Bishop on August 5, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Instead someone abroad was chosen. To prove himself, Wuhayshi needs to make something happen.

Something did happen. In an unprecedented move, the US closed more than 20 of its embassies in the ‘Muslim World.’

If they could close them permanently with threats and not violence, then they win without any of the negative ‘pr.’

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I’m searching Youtube for the offending video now…

d1carter on August 5, 2013 at 4:58 PM

If they blew up Congress would you really miss it?

sandee on August 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Better yet, if they destroyed Washington…

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:58 PM

AQ might now be dipping the clothes of its operatives in an explosive solution and then leaving them to dry. That might be able to punch a hole in the side of a plane when ignited — and no, according to counterterror officials, the security theater you endure at the airport from TSA won’t detect it.

this means TSA will need to get more aggressive about searching those 80yo white grannies.

chasdal on August 5, 2013 at 4:59 PM

I think I might have inadvertently touched all this panic off when I emailed an old army buddy of mine and said I thought the housing market was about to crash and we could both make a killing if we kept our powder dry and waited till it all blew up to strike.

VorDaj on August 5, 2013 at 5:01 PM

You mean this info didn’t come from feeling Granny’s colostomy bag at the TSA check-in?

This is troublesome.

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 5:02 PM

I’m searching Youtube for the offending video now…

d1carter on August 5, 2013 at 4:58 PM

I’m going with the idea that the threat to our embassies is based solely on a lack of justice for Trayvon Martin. I’d be on the lookout for anybody in Cairo or Aden wearing a hoodie.

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Better yet, if they destroyed Washington…

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Except I really do not have anything against the USGS or the Smithsonian…

Can we move them out first?

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 5, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Our government is more of a danger to us than any terrorist…

PatriotRider on August 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Better yet, if they destroyed Washington…

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:58 PM

OMG! You may have just set off Panic II.

VorDaj on August 5, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Our government is more of a danger to us than any terrorist…

PatriotRider on August 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM

+ 200 million Americans

Schadenfreude on August 5, 2013 at 5:06 PM

VorDaj on August 5, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Clearly, based on your verbiage alone you will be visited by the IRS, and not the NSA.

Mostly just to check on your health insurance status, but also because your message to your old buddy implies a level of financial independence that is intolerable to the One.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on August 5, 2013 at 5:06 PM

I’ll believe this when they have a cold dead body to show for their efforts. Until then, distract, distract, distract!

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 5:08 PM

I’ll believe this when they have a cold dead body to show for their efforts.

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 5:08 PM

But would they put it down to a real act of terrorism, or would they call it something else as a result of some petty ‘offense’ to Islam by a nobody?

Liam on August 5, 2013 at 5:10 PM

How much of MY FREEDOM must be sacrificed for “more security”???

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 5:11 PM

I’ll believe this when they have a cold dead body to show for their efforts.

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 5:08 PM

McCain is old and cold and brain dead so they already have that.

VorDaj on August 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM

AQ is dead, they just closed them for a week to celebrate the Emperor’s birthday.

RickB on August 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM

How much of MY FREEDOM must be sacrificed for “more security”???

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Do you remember when you were young and poor and you went to Honest Sam’s Used Cars and asked how much one of them was and Sam said “How much you got?”

VorDaj on August 5, 2013 at 5:14 PM

I’ll believe this when they have a cold dead body to show for their efforts. Until then, distract, distract, distract!

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Nobody but fish got to see OBL’s cold dead body.

Why would this be different?

Bruno Strozek on August 5, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Say what’s the Washington Post Jeff’s Paper saying about this?

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 5:15 PM

I’ve seen both lefties and righties suggest today that the new terror threat is being exaggerated in order to serve as a sort of ad for the NSA. Okay, but … unless I missed it, no one’s said a word about the new jihadi “chatter” being linked to domestic electronic communications.

What I’ve been saying since this thing first came to light.

JetBoy on August 5, 2013 at 5:19 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/05/chambliss-sources-terror-chatter-beyond-anything-heard-since-before-11/

Sources confirmed with Fox News the chatter was picked up over the past two weeks and exceeds anything in the past decade. They also said the extraordinary volume of chatter was preceded by months of “absolute quietness.”

The sources said the chatter included Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri demanding that key leaders of the terror network in the Arabian Peninsula step up their activities in the wake of recent killings of top terrorists.

Something isn’t right about this.

They stay silent knowing they are being monitored and then they start openly talking about THE BIG OPERATION being planned?

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Anyone really trust Obama anymore?

albill on August 5, 2013 at 5:25 PM

All I can say Allah is at this point, what difference does it make??

Deano1952 on August 5, 2013 at 5:25 PM

How do we know it isn’t NSA making the “chatter” to fake a whole bunch of people out…?

albill on August 5, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Thanks Administration / NY Times, nice of you to let Zawahiri et al know that you were reading his comms….

I thought the goal was to keep sources / methods secret so that our enemies wouldn’t know we have compromised their current communication processes.

Is it really worth telegraphing this to the enemy in order to score a minor win for the Admin re NSA and commint?

Of course, this is hardly a surprise…a number of years ago the NY Times, based on an anonymous leak, exposed US intel was using a major international banking system to track jihadi terror funds – prompting a quick change in their processes by AQ and their affiliates.

Athos on August 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Say what’s the Washington Post Jeff’s Paper saying about this?

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Under new managment, so essentially it is still the hard left rag that has been losing money for years. My only hope is the new owner hates Tom Toles enough to fire his ass for the political cartoons that don’t even pretend to be anything but biased radical left propaganda. Toles is the guy who called fallen soldiers “losers.”

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

But…but…Just yesterday Juan Williams said Al Queda had been decimated and these threats were just from lone wolves.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Toles is the guy who called fallen soldiers “losers.”

Happy Nomad on August 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Strangely enough he never did that outside the gates of Ft. Benning.

Bishop on August 5, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Yawn.

Abolish the NSA.

Like… yesterday.

Let’s go from National Security Agency to No Such Agency in a day.

sartana on August 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM

So, we were able to ignore the hell out of bonafide terror threats for months and months while Ambassador Stevens told everybody except Santa Claus that AQ was targeting his facility. Now this.

what am I missing?

ted c on August 5, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Exactly. Something isn’t right with this.

Also, if Snowden’s revelations significantly damaged our surveillance efforts, it seems odd that chatter begins after the whole world has heard about our spying techniques.

scalleywag on August 5, 2013 at 5:54 PM

And if they do somehow manage to light their clothes on fire on a flight, does that mean none of us can wear clothes to the airport anymore?

scalleywag on August 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM

And if they do somehow manage to light their clothes on fire on a flight, does that mean none of us can wear clothes to the airport anymore?

scalleywag on August 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Nudists finally win!

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Sandra Flucke woukd like to talk about the cost of her contraceptives.

MTF on August 5, 2013 at 6:18 PM

How long before a terrorist has a Penis bomb?

Or a prostate bomb? Or a Uterus bomb?

Strip searches and nanobot injections here we come!

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Maybe, that’s the answer to my question. There isn’t any real attack planned by them, but their real goal was to shut down the embassies. They win without having to do anything.

Resist We Much on August 5, 2013 at 4:52 PM

I agree. They have ways of getting messages around without electronic chatter.

dogsoldier on August 5, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Okay, but … unless I missed it, no one’s said a word about the new jihadi “chatter” being linked to domestic electronic communications.

And they don’t have to. All they have to do is speak generally and conflate the two programs as if they are one and the same…just like they do with everything else.

xblade on August 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM

So this is coming from Zawahiri, according to the “leaks”.

Hmmm, from an earlier thread..

Zarate said that while Obama Administration has touted their “decapitation” of al Qaeda, this “decimation of al Qaeda” has been focused on “that core, the group in Pakistan and Afghanistan led by bin Laden and [Ayman al] Zawahiri.”

Some of these “leaks” must be going off script.

Seems I read about a “leak” somewhere that “reported” Zawahiri is involved in this latest plot/threat.

How can that be if Comrade O, Destroyer of Al Qaeda, has been focusing on “that core, the group in Pakistan and Afghanistan led by bin Laden and [Ayman al] Zawahiri”, which he has decapitated and decimated and has on the run?

Oooops…these quotes from before the election need some rewrites.

“Al Qaeda’s core leadership has been decimated — except for that Zawahiri guy

“The goal that I set — to defeat al-Qaeda, and deny it a chance to rebuild — is within reach, if it weren’t for that for that Zawahiri guy.”

“Al Qaeda’s Been Decimated – except for that Zawahiri guy — And Osama Bin Laden Is Dead”

“And today, Al Qaeda is on the run – except for that Zawahiri guy — and Osama bin Laden is dead.”

– Comrade O, Bin Laden Slayer, Destroyer of Al Qaeda, on the campaign trail.

farsighted on August 5, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Either they’re testing the US, or our government completely made this whole thing up.

Timin203 on August 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Fits the evidence either way.

AesopFan on August 5, 2013 at 6:58 PM

farsighted on August 5, 2013 at 6:52 PM

American’s have become ignorant worthless votes for tyranny. It is not their fault!

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 6:58 PM

If you were looking to trump something up to make the public more chill about PRISM, that’s where you’d start; if the chatter’s exclusively foreign, then the NSA’s simply doing what everyone thought the NSA was doing in the first place.

Actually, my understanding of PRISM, such as it is, such as anyone’s is, is that it snoops on and intercepts internet traffic.

And because a great deal of international internet traffic passes through US internet providers, intermixed and interleaved with domestic internet traffic, and through servers and fiber cables located in the US, or even through US communications satellites, PRISM must be able to monitor any internet traffic in the US to snoop on foreign internet communications passing through the US, even if both nodes are outside of the US. It is my understanding that a large percentage of foreign internet communications passes through the US. For example, communications between a node in the Great Britain and one in Pakistan may pass through the US. Or communications between Italy and Norway may pass through the US. Or between Egypt and Germany.

This is one of the reasons why some foreign governments are upset about the NSA disclosures.

In fact, due to the nature and deliberate design of the internet protocol, it is almost impossible to predict the exact route internet traffic will take if the two communicating nodes are widely geographically separated. And communication between the same two end nodes can take a different path from minute to minute even if the use the same IP addresses all of the time. Or even from second to second. Now consider that the bad guys may change IPs constantly, physical devices constantly, and physical locations constantly, while using proxies. And so on and so forth.

farsighted on August 5, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Reposted from the earlier “Already in place” thread:

Are we even trying to get Zawahiri anymore, after Obama killed Osama and spiked the football?

Christien on August 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Lucky guess, I…guess.

Christien on August 5, 2013 at 7:15 PM

farsighted on August 5, 2013 at 7:15 PM

I would rather face terrorists than my own government any second, minute, hour, day, week, month, year or decade.

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 7:26 PM

This is the worst news of the year. Not only has any chance, however slight, of getting these guys been lost; but they and their subordinates will use better trade craft in the future. The leaker and anyone involved in publishing this should be strung up buy their thumbs until the crows are done with them.

burt on August 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM

ow long before a terrorist has a Penis bomb?

Or a prostate bomb? Or a Uterus bomb?

Strip searches and nanobot injections here we come!

PappyD61 on August 5, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Or a double barreled BOOB BOMB? Twice the power!! Yea that’s it.. A BOOB BOMB!! Could the boobs at TSA detect it? Them? Ha!

Marco on August 5, 2013 at 7:46 PM

but they and their subordinates will use better trade craft in the future.

burt on August 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM

They already were using better trade craft.

The mystery is why they suddenly stopped.

Sources confirmed with Fox News the chatter was picked up over the past two weeks and exceeds anything in the past decade. They also said the extraordinary volume of chatter was preceded by months of “absolute quietness.”

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Sources confirmed with Fox News the chatter was picked up over the past two weeks and exceeds anything in the past decade. They also said the extraordinary volume of chatter was preceded by months of “absolute quietness.”

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM

I was told they were changing their methods after Snowden. How can the be absolute quiet and at the same time detectably changing methods of communications?
Snowden is a hero! He made them change to a type of communication that we easily are able to listen in on!

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Good work habits follow bad events, but they decay over time. People become confused and make mistakes when they are old, over worked, and rushed.

burt on August 5, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I was told they were changing their methods after Snowden. How can the be absolute quiet and at the same time detectably changing methods of communications?
Snowden is a hero! He made them change to a type of communication that we easily are able to listen in on!

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Nothing adds up here. A lot of what we are being told is false.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Good work habits follow bad events, but they decay over time. People become confused and make mistakes when they are old, over worked, and rushed.

burt on August 5, 2013 at 8:06 PM

A threat to your life tends to concentrate the mind and the chatter “exceeds anything in the past decade” was suddenly strong when previously it had been preceded by months of “absolute quietness.”

There was no decay involved. People make mistakes, they don’t just suddenly forget the NSA exists.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 8:24 PM

People make mistakes, they don’t just suddenly forget the NSA exists.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 8:24 PM

While Snowden and NSA is in the news daily in their part of the world.

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 8:24 PM

While Snowden and NSA is in the news daily in their part of the world.

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Bin Laden didn’t just forget about not making phone calls and ordering out for pizza, and I doubt his replacement did either.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM

The source of the terrorist threat is: VALERIE JARRETT & DAVID AXELROD.

The poll numbers are sinking. Any questions?

Benghazi is becoming a bigger liability. Any questions?

stenwin77 on August 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM

Bin Laden didn’t just forget about not making phone calls and ordering out for pizza, and I doubt his replacement did either.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM

I was buttressing your argument by saying that they did not forget about him while he was hot news in their neck of the world.

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I was buttressing your argument by saying that they did not forget about him while he was hot news in their neck of the world.

astonerii on August 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I know. I am just pointing out how absurd their arguments are. They are desperate to keep these NSA programs.

sharrukin on August 5, 2013 at 8:43 PM

ingenious” innovation in bomb-making sounds like something aimed more at passenger jets than at fortified buildings.

Like a surface to air missile that went missing from Libya?

bitsy on August 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM

This doesn’t have anything at all to do with the NSA.

It’s Benghazi.

The administration is trying to defuse Benghazi by saying, “Look. We learned our lesson. Look how seriously we’re taking threats against our embassies now.”

Chris of Rights on August 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM