Sternly worded: Carney hints Obama might cancel Moscow summit with Putin over Snowden asylum

posted at 8:31 pm on August 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

I didn’t understand it when this idea was floated two weeks ago and I don’t understand it now. What does Putin care at this point whether Obama pays his respects at the Kremlin or not? He’s already wrung more propaganda value from l’affaire Snowden than he’ll ever get from an official visit with the president and must have assumed when he decided to grant Snowden asylum that this would mean Obama would cancel on him. The question is why O hasn’t canceled already. It’ll look ridiculous even by his standards if he goes to Moscow anyway to kiss the ring after Putin’s embarrassed him this way.

If you want to send a message, albeit at considerable political risk, take Chuck Schumer’s advice. And no, I can’t believe I just wrote that either.

Sen. Charles Schumer, the Senate’s third-ranking Democrat, called Snowden, who was stuck in a Moscow airport for 39 days, a “coward who has chosen to run,” and advised the president to reconsider an upcoming trip to St. Petersburg, Russia, for the G-20 summit early next month.

“Russia has stabbed us in the back, and each day that Mr. Snowden is allowed to roam free is another twist of the knife,” Schumer, D-N.Y., wrote in a scathing statement. “Given Russia’s decision today, the president should recommend moving the G-20 summit.”

Bold but risky: What if O calls on the other G20 nations to snub Russia and they, er, ignore him? That’s the only thing that could make this humiliation worse. And it’s probably what would happen, given that European leaders are suddenly eager to prove to their own electorates that they’re pretend-opposed to things like mass domestic surveillance. If Obama decides to escalate diplomatically over Snowden, he’d have it to frame it in terms beyond Snowden himself — as a protest of Russian treatment of gays and dissidents like Alexei Navalny. At least then he’s got a shot at international support.

Speaking of Snowden, he declared today that “the law is winning” from his new home base of Russia. Yeah.


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I’m sure Putin is just totally heartbroken

jaywemm on August 1, 2013 at 8:34 PM

“What does Putin care at this point whether Obama pays his respects at the Kremlin or not? He’s already wrung more propaganda value from l’affaire Snowden than he’ll ever get from an official visit with the president and must have assumed when he decided to grant Snowden asylum that this would mean Obama would cancel on him.”

Putin’s a Bada$$. I am LMAO at the way he slaps the silly POS around.

wyntre9 on August 1, 2013 at 8:35 PM

I am extremely disappointed in Obama..
F#in’ liar he is..

Electrongod on August 1, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Sure. Why not? He’s more flexible now.

Mimzey on August 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM

Sounds good to me. Barry can only do harm wherever he goes.

Dack Thrombosis on August 1, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I join anyone who thumbs his nose at our jackarse president.

Sad but true.

Sherman1864 on August 1, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Smart money says it won’t happen.

Bmore on August 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Big hat. No cattle.

Bambi will cave.

marybel on August 1, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Obama sent a message to Vladimir that he could be more flexible after the election.

Vladimir received the message, and after the election, he bent Obama over to prove it.

novaculus on August 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Obama doesn’t even enforce American laws if he doesn’t like them and breaks other American laws if he wants to and thinks he can get away with it, so why does he expect Putin to be more loyal to American laws than he is?

VorDaj on August 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM

He can’t suggest moving it. Too much logistics involved. Besides, the advance teams probably already know where all the best hookers hang out.

KCB on August 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM

The only leverage Obama has is to threaten to send Biden in his place.

VorDaj on August 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM

He’ll threaten to cancel it for the Russians putting down teh ghey.

Russia seems to have it in their mind like this: “Let’s try the Cold War over again, except this time it’s a Christian Russia against an atheist America. And a weak President to boot.”

Greek Fire on August 1, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Obama doesn’t even enforce American laws if he doesn’t like them and breaks other American laws if he wants to and thinks he can get away with it, so why does he expect Putin to be more loyal to American laws than he is?

VorDaj on August 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM</blockquote

Well said and true.

bazil9 on August 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Yawn!

MaiDee on August 1, 2013 at 8:52 PM

The Russians are justifiably upset with Obama for a number of reasons, and they probably thought that they just don’t feel like yielding on Snowden.

Start with Libya. The Russians said don’t do it. Well, we did it, around the clock bombing for 6 months. Then Syria, the Russians said stay out of that rats nest, but now we’re starting to send arms to the Al Quaeda (largely) Muslim rebels, the same kind of rebels Russia faces in their own country.

You know we don’t want to just run roughshod over Russia unless we have a really compelling reason. One day we may pay a bigger price for Obama’s military adventurism… which seems to be done on behalf of our enemy! Insane.

anotherJoe on August 1, 2013 at 8:53 PM

This is just a set up. Both those sobs are behind this. Obamao just gave hime everything…now he is acting like he’s upset. What a joke!!

bill glass on August 1, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Edward Snowden is a vile, anti-American traitor. Shame on any of you for sanctifying this Michael Moore and Code Pink bosom buddy who specifically set out to hurt this country and aid our adversaries.

Al Qaeda sends its heartfelt thanks to Snowden and his anti-American allies for making Americans less safe.

bluegill on August 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Sternly

…the only thing they do…is Sh!t Sternly!

KOOLAID2 on August 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Hi B9! *wink*

KCB on August 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Obama sent a message to Vladimir that he could be more flexible after the election.

Vladimir received the message, and after the election, he bent Obama over to prove it.

novaculus on August 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM

IMHO, thread winner of the year.

GrannyDee on August 1, 2013 at 8:56 PM

… and here I was…using the word sh!t…and didn’t look at the toilet above me!

KOOLAID2 on August 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Russia seems to have it in their mind like this: “Let’s try the Cold War over again, except this time it’s a Christian Russia against an atheist America. And a weak President to boot.”

Greek Fire on August 1, 2013 at 8:48 PM

I keep hearing Nikita Krushchev’s shoe pounding words.

katy the mean old lady on August 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Hi B9! *wink*

KCB on August 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM

A wink and a clink*

bazil9 on August 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Chicken Girl

fogw on August 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Putin could give a rip if Obama canceled. He has no respect for him whatsoever.

ted c on August 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Edward Snowden is a vile, anti-American traitor.But that Weiner dude is awsome!

bluegill on August 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM

katy the mean old lady on August 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Putin owns the pos Obama and it just gives me real joy. Popcorn please!

jephthah on August 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM

bazil9 on August 1, 2013 at 8:57 PM

*clink!*

KCB on August 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM

All along Obama’s wanted to the U.S. to be less of a leader in the world. He just didn’t think losing that title would also involve losing respect for the U.S. leader, especially while his magnificence was still in office. The end of American Exceptionalism was going to be for the next yokels elected president to deal with, not Barack Obama.

jon1979 on August 1, 2013 at 9:04 PM

I’m sure Putin will be shocked and disappointed if that happens. Never saw that coming. Surely he will now realize he has completely he has misjudged Comrade O.

Obviously Comrade O is thinking many steps ahead.

Putin must be wondering… What to do next? What to do next?

My guess. Putin will find another obvious way to say FU to Comrade O and humiliate him. Because he knows he is dealing with a naive fool, a sheltered idealist ignorant of reality and the facts of life about how the world works. A fool who thinks he is brilliant, because everyone has told him that his entire life.

Putin is playing with Teh One. Amusing himself and provoking him, hoping he makes more mistakes he can exploit. Maybe, just maybe, The Obamessiah may make a really big mistake he can exploit.

farsighted on August 1, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Considering how much oil and natural gas Europe gets from Russia, I doubt those leaders would be willing to move the G20 summit. Id Obama is aware of this, he might not want to take the risk of other leaders telling him that word he hates: “No!”

That would make his humiliation complete.

The United States no longer has the clout and prestige it used to. The reason for that is only one: Obama himself.

Liam on August 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Maybe Barry should go over there and whoop some azzzzzzzzzzzz.

trs on August 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Is this part of the flexibility he’ll have after the election?

Tony Soprano on August 1, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Sounds good to me. Barry BAMSTAHHHHHH!!!!! YOU D A MAN BAMMY BABYYYY!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLL !!!!YAHHHHHH!!!!!!
Dackosis 2013 at 8:39 PM

cableguy615 on August 1, 2013 at 9:10 PM

The past person Putin is scared of is Barry Obama.

GarandFan on August 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM

This is just a set up. Both those sobs are behind this. Obamao just gave hime everything…now he is acting like he’s upset. What a joke!!

bill glass on August 1, 2013 at 8:54 PM

You very well might be right. Who’s side is obama on..the conservatives or the leftists? Who’s side is putin more likely to be on, the conservatives or the leftists?

Mimzey on August 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM

You very well might be right. Who’s side is obama on..the conservatives or the leftists? Who’s side is putin more likely to be on, the conservatives or the leftists?

Mimzey on August 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Putin is on Russia’s side. Or, maybe more accurately, his own. Obama is doing for him what the Soviet Union could not: ruin the United States as a world power.

Economically, we’re trashed. Politically, we’re stymied. Militarily, Obama is trying to end that power. Socially, we’re divided and getting worse.

All done by liberals in general for decades, and Obama in particular as the culmination of all their efforts.

Liam on August 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

I am at a loss as to why Obama thinks anyone in Russia cares if he visits. It would be hilarious if he tried to get a boycott of G20 and everyone else went.

talkingpoints on August 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Why, Obama just might write a stern letter ….

BD57 on August 1, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Obama got dissed — I love it! O is such a wuzzy.

Conservchik on August 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

katy the mean old lady on August 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Poor, sad Katherine, I know you are still bitter over the fact that no one, in all your life, has ever wanted to send you so much as a shirtless selfie, but that doesn’t mean you have to spew your lies on here.

Snowden is a vile traitor who will hopefully be on American soil soon and brought to justice, and Weiner (who you’re apparently obsessed with and can’t help thinking about for some reason) is a filthy pig. Sorry you don’t like hearing your heroes called out for being the scum that they are.

bluegill on August 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

RESET

Bwahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

Conservchik on August 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Putin is on Russia’s side. Or, maybe more accurately, his own. Obama is doing for him what the Soviet Union could not: ruin the United States as a world power.

Economically, we’re trashed. Politically, we’re stymied. Militarily, Obama is trying to end that power. Socially, we’re divided and getting worse.

All done by liberals in general for decades, and Obama in particular as the culmination of all their efforts.

Liam on August 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

I agree with all you’ve said except that Putin is on Russia’s side. Russia is the Russian people. Putin is on the side of power over those people and an adherent of the Communist way.
Obama is an ignorant and naive mirror image of that imo.

Mimzey on August 1, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Wwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa!

Cry me a wivur!

PappyD61 on August 1, 2013 at 9:30 PM

But did he mention a red line?

Fallon on August 1, 2013 at 9:33 PM

… obama might cancel Moscow summit with Putin …

It’s almost as if the putz doesn’t realize that no one on the world stage wants anything to do with him.

Pork-Chop on August 1, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Does this mean that lil barry isn’t going to be “more flexible” for cousin Vlad?

Solaratov on August 1, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Putin is a bully, but…the president has not exactly done anything to earn his respect. He doesn’t have
any cards to play in this and looks weak. Having Carney step up and make some “stern” statement seems foolish. the president has no idea how to deal with world leaders.

scalleywag on August 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Putin to Obama-Ja Pycckij pidaras.

docflash on August 1, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Obama doesn’t even enforce American laws if he doesn’t like them and breaks other American laws if he wants to and thinks he can get away with it, so why does he expect Putin to be more loyal to American laws than he is?

VorDaj on August 1, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Excellent observation and well worth re-posting.

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Aw. I’m sure Putin will be emotionally crushed.

The Rogue Tomato on August 1, 2013 at 10:01 PM

called out for being the scum

bluegill on August 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

…so…when you going to “call yourself out” ?

KOOLAID2 on August 1, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Obama is Putin’s bitch, and Barry will bend over and take it like a good little supplicant. There will be no recommendation to move the summit because Barry doesn’t have permission from his Daddy to ask.

CantCureStupid on August 1, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Poor, sad Katherine, I know you are still bitter over the fact that no one, in all your life, has ever wanted to send you so much as a shirtless selfie

bluegill on August 1, 2013 at 9:26 PM

The fact that you would encourage a “selfie” shows your character.

katy the mean old lady on August 1, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Good, hope it is canceled then the White House commie can’t give away the store.

bgibbs1000 on August 1, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Poser

Blaise on August 1, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Keep Obama, give us Snowden.

BetseyRoss on August 1, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Poor Barry… gonna take his ball and go home….what a douche

roflmmfao

donabernathy on August 1, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Never though i’d live to see the day when Americans sought freedom in RUSSIA.

My how fast the United States has slipped down the fascists rabbit hole.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on August 1, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Nation in decline, book-ended by a couple of pervs on each coast. I’m sure he couldn’t give a rat’s a$$.

msupertas on August 1, 2013 at 11:19 PM

H.L. Mencken (born 1880 – died 1956) was a journalist, satirist, critic, and Democrat. He wrote this editorial while working for the Baltimore Evening Sun, which appeared in the July 26, 1920, edition:
“As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people.

On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.”

—-H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Hah, Putin is laughing his head off at the US, just because obama makes him appear sanctimonious and powerful.

obama killed the last shred of decency, sanctimony, moral authority and light the US had left.

World, you cheered for obama, you got him.

US, you too!!! Enjoy the shame and destruction.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Putin’s response: “That’s mighty inflexible of you, Barry. I thought we had an understanding.”

Cylor on August 1, 2013 at 11:56 PM

It’s shocking how Republicans are so terrified of Obama when you see him get smacked around so severely by leaders like Putin.

Why can’t the House say we won’t pass any laws until we get answers on Benghazi?

We won’t pass any laws until we get answers on the IRS?

What is so hard about that?

blue13326 on August 1, 2013 at 11:58 PM

What a freaking joke. Hey Preezy – I don’t think Vlad is going to lose any sleep over your threat.

Hill60 on August 2, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Please cancel your giveaway summit, pllleeaassseeeeeeee.

losarkos on August 2, 2013 at 12:41 AM

Obama is not needed at the summit. He isn’t even wanted at the summit. Other leaders are embarrassed to have to stand or sit with him.
They don’t even want him around!
The House needs to impeach this SOB and send him packing.
The House needs to cut the WH funding until Obama is gone.
The House needs to defund Obamacare!
The House needs to Impeach Holder and send him packing.
The House needs to cut the funding of the Justice Dept until Holder is gone.

Delsa on August 2, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Riddle me this: at this point, who has broken more federal laws, O’Bumble or Snowden?

Travis Bickle on August 2, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Careful, Mr. President, you don’t want to get a reputation as a Cowboy with principals.

Another Drew on August 2, 2013 at 2:11 AM

They also need to write the State Dept out of any CR, too.

Another Drew on August 2, 2013 at 2:12 AM

Gosh, “Mr. Beer Summit” to solve all conflicts, seems to have an aversion to a “vodka summit.”

I’ll bet he drinks lite with fruit juice to hide the malt flavoring.

Don L on August 2, 2013 at 3:16 AM

Putin did it because he knows Obama is a b!tch

The Notorious G.O.P on August 2, 2013 at 4:01 AM

I’m sure Putin is just totally heartbroken

jaywemm on August 1, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Yeah, he’s so hurt he’s laughing his azz off at the punk.

They are all focusing on the wrong thing. The NSA is spying on everyone to CONTROL us and Snowden forced them to admit it. Worse he got proof.

The spying was never about stopping terrorists. The Boston bombing and Nidal Hassan put the lie to that statement.

dogsoldier on August 2, 2013 at 5:38 AM

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Putin goes out and kills a MOOSE without his shirt on.

Obama goes a rides a bicycle with his hard-hat on.

Putin has been poking Obummer in the eye like a schoolyard bully for years and this is just the most recent poke.

TX-96 on August 2, 2013 at 6:13 AM

Some reporter should ask Carney if Obama’s ‘leading from behind’ means getting his a$$ kicked by world leaders on a regular basis.

DaveDief on August 2, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Ummmm….just spit-balling here, but..

Is there anyone that we could grant asylum here in the US, that would make ‘O’ leave HERE in a huff?

a5minmajor on August 2, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Obama sent a message to Vladimir that he could be more flexible after the election.

Vladimir received the message, and after the election, he bent Obama over to prove it.

novaculus on August 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM

You just HAD to go there didn’t you? Now that image will be stuck in my head all day. Do you understand how much I HATE respecting Putin more than the President of the United States?

yesiamapirate on August 2, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Why can’t the House say we won’t pass any laws until we get answers on Benghazi?
You’re on to something there.

yesiamapirate on August 2, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Does anyone care if:

1) Obama goes to Russia

2) Obama doesn’t go to Russia, or

3) Obama cancels his trip to Russia?

There is no story here. At all. But the WH needs a diversion from the “phony scandals”, and this is it.

Weak.

BobMbx on August 2, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Anyone else note what’s happening in Russia soon: the Olympics? Yet again, we have Carter redux. All we need now is an embassy full of hostages…….

GWB on August 2, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Anyone else note what’s happening in Russia soon: the Olympics? Yet again, we have Carter redux. All we need now is an embassy full of hostages…….

GWB on August 2, 2013 at 10:04 AM

I was just thinking the same thing. History repeats itself.

Oldnuke on August 2, 2013 at 10:14 AM

How about they get msnbc to call putin a racist, and see how that works.
As thats what they do whenever someone disagrees with obama.

sniffles1999 on August 2, 2013 at 10:49 AM

“I got game” –Obama
“You’ve been played” –Putin

Pest on August 2, 2013 at 10:57 AM

For clarification: The WH thinks that Putin will regard a ‘stern’ statement from Nancy-boy Carney? (Apologies to all Nancy-boys for the slight)

Given BO sought to ‘strengthen his ticket’ with Plugs Biden’s foreign policy experience, should the populace consider this Uncle Joe’s response?

socalcon on August 2, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Obama doesn’t want to go to the Kremlin, because he doesn’t want to get slapped around again.

RebeccaH on August 2, 2013 at 11:29 AM

if he goes to Moscow anyway to kiss the ring

Obama Robert Kraft hardest hit.

pain train on August 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Another RED LINE, Carnhole ?

FlaMurph on August 2, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Buh, Buh, Buh, BooHoo. And he even sent a really awesome strongly worded letter.

ironked on August 2, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Prezzy phony scandals has had his azz handed to him so many times by the rooskie thug he’s lost count and that reset button. He won’t cancel outright but it will be postponed by an unexpected crisis.

Kissmygrits on August 2, 2013 at 6:40 PM