Scarborough: Let’s face it, new senators like Rubio and Rand Paul are ill-equipped to be president

posted at 1:41 pm on August 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite, he’s making a point about inexperience. I’m … just not sure which point. It’s true, Obama had little experience as a federal legislator (and zippo as an executive) before running for president, and look how little he’s accomplished. But is that a function of “inexperience” or a function of other variables, like greater partisan polarization and Obama’s disdain for doing the sort of congressional outreach needed to pass bills? Rubio and Paul will each have served a few years more than Obama did in the Senate by election day 2016. They each also have some cred in working with people across the aisle, Rubio famously with the Gang of Eight and Paul on civil liberties. What is it that the two of them are going to learn by serving another six years in the Senate? Building friendships with colleagues is valuable, but it’s hard for me to believe the lefty base will be willing to tolerate Democrats partnering with President Rubio on major bills in 2025 any more than they would circa 2017. Knocking a candidate for inexperience is effective viscerally — “why should I trust a newbie with the most important job in the world?” — but the specific concerns related to it are rarely articulated. What are they?

Speaking of 2016, though, Ramesh Ponnuru makes a smart point about Rubio’s predicament:

If Marco Rubio is planning to seek the presidency in 2016, he is doing it in an unusual way. In office he has allied with the most conservative elements of the party on almost every issue — but has split with the base on one important issue, immigration. His boosters say that this issue will not doom his campaign, noting that John McCain won the nomination in 2008 even though conservative activists had vocally opposed him on immigration in 2006 and 2007. The difference is that McCain’s overall record was well to the left of Rubio’s, giving him a base of support among moderate Republicans. Rubio could — repeat: could — end up in a no-man’s-land, too far right to win those voters who identify as “moderately conservative” but too heterodox to win those who consider themselves “very conservative.”

If you want a staunch conservative, you go with Paul or Cruz. If you want a centrist with electability cred, you go with Christie. What’s the argument for Rubio? The answer, I’d say, is that he’s a potential compromise candidate. The Christie fans won’t accept Paul or Cruz; the Paul and Cruz fans won’t accept Christie. Rubio’s the not-too-hot-not-too-cold bowl of porridge on whom some centrists and righties will settle as a guy who can potentially unite the two wings of the party in a way that the other three can’t. Walker might play the same role; Ponnuru names him as a guy in the mold of Tim Pawlenty who’s kinda conservative but also kinda establishment and therefore deeply appealing to no one. I think, though, that Republicans might tolerate a nominee like that in 2016 in a way that they didn’t in 2012. The risk of a self-destructive party split between centrists and conservatives in the next cycle seems considerably higher than it did in the past two cycles. If the Christie/Paul bitterness between hawks and doves deepens, you may see Beltway GOPers start looking around for a more conservative establishment champion whose nomination will reduce the risk of people staying home in the general election. That’s Rubio or Walker, provided that they do something to reach out to libertarians before 2016 the same way that Paul will need to do something to reach out to hawks.

And this, needless to say, is the value of Rubio’s immigration play to his chances. He can basically be as conservative as he wants from here on out; he’s already proved to Republican donors that he’s not afraid to take their side against the base on a top-flight policy issue. They can fund him in the assumption that he’ll do that again as president, and the base can vote for him in the assumption that he’s learned his lesson after taking a beating for his amnesty shilling and won’t cross them again. Not too hot, not too cold. Someone’s going to end up being disappointed.


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BoxHead1 on August 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Please learn the difference between “then” and “than.”

Christien on August 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Endless and underappreciated work available for you @ HuffPo.

socalcon on August 1, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Rubio is blathering on Cavuto.
The 11 million here?
Cut off the freebies. E-verify. That’s how you deal with them.

HornetSting on August 1, 2013 at 4:37 PM

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fred5678 on August 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Yeah.. you need to be at least a community organizer to be President.

JellyToast on August 1, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Obama is proof of Scarborough’s theory.

Dasher on August 1, 2013 at 4:47 PM

And, again, Obama is not a Do Nothing President. He’s accomplished far more then any living ex president and maybe more then any president this century. This is not Carter. Obama is far more effective then Carter was.

BoxHead1 on August 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM

I don’t think people look at playing politics to benefit unions and bolster your own party as accomplishments. Accomplishments tend to be seen as things that benefit the American people. So yea, Obama hasn’t accomplished jack.

Now if you consider destroying the country, the economy, civil liberties and the best health care in the world an accomplishment then you have zero argument.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

BoxHead1 on August 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM

I don’t think people look at playing politics to benefit unions and bolster your own party as accomplishments. Accomplishments tend to be seen as things that benefit the American people. So yea, Obama hasn’t accomplished jack.

Now if you consider destroying the country, the economy, civil liberties and the best health care in the world an accomplishment then you have zero argument.

The Notorious G.O.P on August 1, 2013 at 4:51 PM

BTW my then should be than – h/t Christien.

Accomplishment means completion or achievement. He completed/achieved Obamacare, Porkulus, NSA’s all powerful reach, racial division, 2 elections … I’m leaving out a lot. He’s not an Empty Suit. He did A LOT. More then most presidents. I think you are hung up on semantics but , in this case, I used the correct word.

Oh, and as per the headline, he didn’t need a fat resume to ACCOMPLISH his goals.

BoxHead1 on August 1, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Joe is right about Rubio – I’ll give him that – but who cares about his opinion when his joke of a show is on a joke of a network?

Decoski on August 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Gah! I agree with moaning schmoe on something. Rubio, Paul, Lee, and Cruz need to stay in the Senate. Leave the big chair to one of our many fine governors or a certain former colonel.

Kafir on August 1, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Thanks. Just made my day. All those people will wonder what that goofy smile is doing affixed to my face!

socalcon on August 1, 2013 at 4:21 PM

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You’re welcome!

PolAgnostic on August 1, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Scarborough: Let’s face it, new senators like Rubio and Rand Paul are ill-equipped to be president

Hey Joe where were you on Obama’s ultra thin CV?

RJL on August 1, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Wasn’t or isn’t Rand Paul a small business owner?

Or, did he work for a physician’s office owned by someone else when performing eye surgery?

Amjean on August 1, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Rubio is blathering on Cavuto.
The 11 million here?
Cut off the freebies. E-verify. That’s how you deal with them.

HornetSting on August 1, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Did Schumer and Obama let their Rubio off his leash?

RJL on August 1, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Experience? After obama?My dog has more experience than barry BAMSTAHHHHHH !! YOU DA MANNNN BAMMMMMMY BBAAAAABYYYY!!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLLL!!!! YYYAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

sand on August PM

cableguy615 on August 1, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Paul is a “staunch conservative” now?

In what pot-addled cloud of hippy dreaming is that true?

Adjoran on August 1, 2013 at 8:00 PM

…that picture of Rubio!…WHAT’s he just been sucking on?
…where’s Schumer?

KOOLAID2 on August 1, 2013 at 9:32 PM

..and people like Scarborough are qualified for…..?

Oh,….TV shows…..

Cool.

98ZJUSMC on August 1, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Scarborough: …Rubio and Rand Paul are ill-equipped to be president

Why So Joe?
Just because they
didn’t whack their
girlfriend while in office?

“Let’s Roll”

On Watch on August 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM

And, again, Obama is not a Do Nothing President. He’s accomplished far more then any living ex president and maybe more then any president this century. This is not Carter. Obama is far more effective then Carter was.

BoxHead1 on August 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Huh.

I always wondered if people like this existed. Then again, I never thought to check the ranks of the mentally retarded.

98ZJUSMC on August 1, 2013 at 10:31 PM

I can’t stand smoe but he’s right. Senators have no executive experience and stink as POTUS. Dumb-Ø is the perfect example.

I also don’t care for Krispy Kreme but at least he has executive experience.

I wouldn’t vote for any of these turds.

And, I live in Florida. Screwbio is dead to me. I don’t vote for corruption. I’d vote for Dumb-Ø’s dog before I’d vote for him again. I also am hell bent on campaigning for his opponent even if it is a Democrat.

Actions have consequences.

Jayrae on August 1, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Joe needs to get a job he’s suited for, like parking cars.

itsspideyman on August 1, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Like my pre-timed generator, the leftist propaganda machine comes on by default, in time for the next election, clearing out the pro-America rabble.

Don L on August 2, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Well then I guess that applies to the current squatter in the WH. Geesh these lefties are so hypocritical!

neyney on August 2, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Oh, gee, so right Obamuh was qualified to be anything but prezuhdunce, which he is. But what I really want to know is what makes Scarontheborough qualified to make the assessment of who is qualified to be President of the United States?

stukinIL4now on August 2, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Hey Joe..that face lift and hair plugs you had done are so obvious make you even more ridiculous

What is also obvious, MSNBC, with their sewer ratings, will say anything for attention

Redford on August 2, 2013 at 5:08 PM

We have experienced Obama enough to realize he is a puppet and I am wondering who the puppet masters are? The more I see of this fraud the more I realize the empty suite and the media army that dominates the public eye. We are fed the lies and the edited corruption as the truth and history is indeed repeating its self. We indeed have a government within the government .

mixplix on August 3, 2013 at 5:47 AM

Rubio I like; Paul not so sure. But I’d trust either of them before the *inexperienced* dud of a CIC we have now. Heck, I’d trust almost anyone. At least I think they would give a rip!!!! This guy is a joke & everyone knows it but doesn’t want to admit it.

jatfla on August 3, 2013 at 11:50 PM

So sayeth the man ill-equipped to pleasure a woman, have an independent thought, say something intelligent, or produce anything of any real value. Hilarious.

The experience requirement died with Bawreck Insane Obama’s first election and was cremated with his second. Rand and Rubio are perfectly qualified.

MelonCollie on August 4, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Yeah Joe, just keep voting in those lifelong idiots that care nothing about American citizens, only about their power, or you could keep voting in criminal community organizers like the non natural born citizen Barrack Odumbazz.

F_This on August 4, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Ok Rubio is a typical slinky snake in the grass democrat pretending to be a republican like literally half or more of republicans…he isn’t fit to be dog catcher in any well run town… My issue here is he is as experienced or more so than the community organizer… Obama…. who no one of the ruling elites including Scarborough thought wasn’t experienced enough to be president…when will the hipocrocy ever end?!?!!

Caseoftheblues on August 4, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Cruz

Bmore on August 5, 2013 at 4:36 PM

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