New rule in San Diego: Women no longer allowed to meet with Filthy Filner without chaperone

posted at 12:21 pm on August 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

I missed this on Tuesday night but Breitbart didn’t. We’ve reached the point, it seems, where the mayor’s office of a major U.S. city is now a “no go” zone for women who are traveling alone, like some sort of secluded alleyway after dark when a sex offender is on the loose. The best part, though? This is his own policy. His chief of staff tells MSNBC that she and Filner put it in place. Because, I can only assume, they want to make sure that women don’t go telling tall tales about what the mayor did to them. Like those other eight women did.

Is it his own policy, though? Or is even this a lie?

According to a July 17 letter from Filner’s attorney to City Attorney Jan Goldsmith, the move to disallow Filner from meeting with women on city property came from Goldsmith.

“While I believe it is highly inappropriate under the circumstances, pending the investigation, Mr. Filner will comply with your request to avoid meeting alone with women on City business or in a City building,” wrote Harvey Berger, who represents Filner…

Lee Burdick, Filner’s chief of staff, told the Rachel Maddow Show that she and the mayor crafted the policy together. She did not start working as Filner’s chief of staff until July 24, one week after the letter was delivered to Goldsmith.

Another lie, allegedly: It wasn’t the city that failed to provide Filner with the sexual harassment training he evidently desperately needed in other to understand that telling your co-workers to lose their panties is inappropriate. Per Breitbart again, the training was scheduled — and Filner’s office canceled it. Which raises the question: How is this guy still mayor? I keep waiting for impeachment proceedings to begin, but … there’s no impeachment mechanism in San Diego. The only options are to prosecute him and lock him up, which will take time, or to recall him, an effort his lackeys are working hard to thwart. This cretin would apparently rather cling to power, disgraced to the point where his own chief of staff advocates not letting him meet with women alone, then resign and repent. Even Anthony Weiner, back in the days when he still had a few scraps of dignity left, finally bowed to decorum and resigned from Congress for sins far less than this.

My favorite part here, incidentally, is Harris-Perry knocking the policy because it’s discriminatory towards women, not because it suggests that women aren’t safe alone with the mayor of San Diego. If Filner decides he won’t meet alone with men either, that would eliminate the discrimination. Problem solved?

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No-walk zone?

Valkyriepundit on August 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM

New rule in San Diego: Women no longer allowed to meet with Filthy Filner without chaperone

It’s just a reiteration of an old Progressive rule…

Women are children and need the state to take care of them.

Resist We Much on August 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Who picks the chaperon?

crosspatch on August 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Enjoying it while it lasts. Is this what reality shows are like?

a capella on August 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Who pays for the chaperon?

meci on August 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

New rule in San Diego: Women no longer allowed to meet with Filthy Filner without chaperone …

… or panties.

Pork-Chop on August 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Dude looks like the grinch, lol. Seriously though, have any of you ever seen a democrat naked? I did once and I’m still recovering. Freaks, the whole lot of them.

abobo on August 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

That’s a face even a mother couldn’t love.

Bitter Clinger on August 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

New rule in San Diego: Women no longer allowed to meet with Filthy Filner without chaperone

…who’s a 70 years old coot, who’s asking the taxpayers to pay for his lawyers’ fees…because the city didn’t offer him sexual harrassment training…

It’s like asking a homeowner to pay for special access locks/keys to be installed for robbers’ entry.

Trolls, I can’t wait to see you on this thread.

Feminazis, most of you, with Hillary on top, you are the biggest hypocritical sows in the world.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM

sentinelrules on August 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM

What a racist!

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Women no longer allowed to meet with Filthy Filner without chaperone

That really had to be articulated? What sane woman would put herself in that position? For that matter, Filner would be an idiot to put himself in that position. Of course, Filner is an idiot to think that this is all going to go away after two weeks of rehab or something.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Nice to see this Chief of Staff defending the guy….

..like SHE would ever have been Felt up by him…

Yeah, I know, I’m a heartless Pig….

Too Fu*king bad, these Cretins deserve all the nasty
derision they get!!

ToddPA on August 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

A photo of a pen*s with teeth, awesome.

hillsoftx on August 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Dude looks like an alien.

Good Lt on August 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Billy Graham had a similar policy to never “travel, meet, or eat alone with a woman other than my wife.”

Of course, it would mean a lot more with a bit of remorse.

dcman98 on August 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Creep Factor 12 right there.

Eeeeeeeeek!!!

Key West Reader on August 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth. At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

A photo of a pen*s with teeth, awesome.

hillsoftx on August 1, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Err… Nah, Bill Maher claimed that title a long time ago

LOL

Key West Reader on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Heh. Stay on topic please.:)

a capella on August 1, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Creep Factor 12 right there.

Eeeeeeeeek!!!

Key West Reader on August 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Yeah, Bob Filner looks more like a Dick to me.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 12:43 PM

My favorite part here, incidentally, is Harris-Perry knocking the policy because it’s discriminatory towards women, not because it suggests that women aren’t safe alone with the mayor of San Diego.

Just so you know, Harris-Perry wears tampons on her ears. I don’t know how seriously I can take anyone who wears tampons on their ears.

NotCoach on August 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth. At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Funny, not a PEEP from you about our National Debt.

Upwardly revised GDP.

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!

Yeah so tell us, they were Predicting 1.0 growth, and got

wait for it…..wait for it…..1.7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We’ll put you down in the Binders/Krugman Macro idiocy.

ToddPA on August 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth. At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Attempted thread-jacking in progress.

Bitter Clinger on August 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth. At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Maybe you can wear a tampon nose ring in protest.

NotCoach on August 1, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Just so you know, Harris-Perry wears tampons on her ears. I don’t know how seriously I can take anyone who wears tampons on their ears.

NotCoach on August 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

About as seriously as Libfree giving an Economic lecture to us??

ToddPA on August 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Does anyone else find it bizarre that some of these episodes featured noogies, head locks , etc. even though not a one of the three stooges was involved?

Are noogies sexy? To anyone?

dieudonne on August 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM

At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

1.7% growth is awesome now?

If you think so, then more sequestration please, yes?

sentinelrules on August 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I’m surprised that in all this time, no woman responded to him by smashing her high heel down onto his foot etc, etc.?

How about a confluence of contemporary topics: Filner meets a woman with a CCW. She sends a 9MM round into his crotch.

- or am I just feeling particularly blood-thirsty today?

kurtzz3 on August 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth. At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM


Mirror, Mirror, On The Wall, Who Has The Fairest GDP Average Of Them All?

Obama has resided over the worst recovery since the Great Depression. In US history, the rule has been: the deeper the economic contraction, the greater it recovers.

When Is MSNBC Going To Start Giving Obama Credit For This ‘Amazing Economy’?

Now, quit trying to hi-jack a thread. I know that you are willing to do anything to avoid a Democratic sexual abuser and harasser, but ‘TOUGH T!TTY SAID THE KITTY, THE MILK IS ALL GONE!’

PS: Does ‘slvt’ trump ‘slvtbag,’ ‘tw@t, and ‘cvnt’? Is Obama going to call Olivia?

Resist We Much on August 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth. At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Can you post a comment on the thread topic?

Good Lt on August 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM

paging Bill Clinton’s chaperone service!

kirkill on August 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Feminazis, most of you, with Hillary on top, you are the biggest hypocritical sows in the world.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Wow! Couldn’t stop that visual quickly enough!
Do you even think before you type these things?!

questionmark on August 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Are noogies sexy? To anyone?

dieudonne on August 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Yeah, they were to Jerry Sandusky.

ToddPA on August 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

How is this guy still mayor?

Democrat.

Gatsu on August 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Does this mean a three way?[/Filner]

jukin3 on August 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Are noogies sexy? To anyone?

dieudonne on August 1, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Given that women were attracted to pictures of Anthony Weiner’s junk, I would imagine that there probably is somebody out there who is turned on by noogies.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

OT- Watching that sick f#ck on TV right now. Can’t believe they are letting him spout all that sh!t.

Barred on August 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Remember that Republican Mark Foley (think that’s right) that was pinned on every damned Republican running for office, that helped turn the House to the Dems in ’06?

Curious that every damned Democrat isn’t being asked to denounce this fellow or be tarred and feathered as though they all agree with his behavior, isn’t it?

Nah, not really.

Midas on August 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Maybe the mayor should move to a muslim country where the women are covered from head to toe?

birdwatcher on August 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM

libslaveordie

Bankrupt much?

kirkill on August 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Like her buddy Mayor Feltherup from San Diego……

Nancy Pelosi wants the Federal government to grope our kids.

http://conservativebyte.com/2013/07/new-pelosi-agenda-moms-free-from-burden-of-child-care/

In an interview on National Public Radio (NPR), House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said her new agenda for women will give mothers access to day care so they can “earn without carrying the burden of child care.”

During the interview, aired on Weekend Edition Sunday, Pelosi spoke about her newly announced agenda, which is on her website, and is titled, “When Women Succeed, America Succeeds: An Economic Agenda for Women and Families,” a plan that includes universal pre-school and access to day care for working women, and an increase in the minimum wage.

“The child care issue probably has to be done in steps,” Pelosi told NPR host Susan Stamberg. “But when children are learning, parents can be learning. And when the children are in preschool, that frees parents to earn without carrying the burden of the child care.”

“We are hopeful we can make it too hot for people to handle ignoring these women’s issues and get something done even before we get into the electoral season next year,” Pelosi said.

Why stop there Incrementalists?…….Just have the kids dropped off at Federal Education Academies and free the parents of the “financial burdens” of raising the kids?

Viva Progressive Leaders and their wonderful ideas!!

PappyD61 on August 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth.

libfreeordie

Are you talking about the revised first quarter numbers that were increased from 1.7% growth to 1.1% growth or the fudged 2Q number soon to be revised?

You should not post and let us all think you are an ignorant indoctrinated sheep instead of proving it all the time.

jukin3 on August 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM

This dirt bag probably reached puberty around 12 years of age. How many women has he harassed in the past 58 years?

bw222 on August 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth. At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Apparently numbers aren’t your strong point champ – you need to reread what you think you read. Neither apparently is explaining how gay beatdowns by a troubled Trayvon can be tolerated by the Black community.

Why does the Black community hate gays so much that they have to cover Trayvon’s “azz-whoopin”. If there is no shame in the Black community’s gay bigotry, what is the problem?

As for the thread, I believe we were talking about the Democrat Police Action on Women. You know, handcuffs and stuff in Filner’s office? Democrats caught with their hands up skirts?

oldroy on August 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Now, what do you think would have happened if he had attempted this with Sarah Palin?

In other words, Prog women talk a big game, but when it comes down to it, you want a woman who knows what it takes to put down a wolf.

questionmark on August 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

There are some days I think that I’ve come to the point where I truly and simply hate people. All of them.

And then you remind me that my hatred is best when focused on the specific individuals and ideologies that are destroying everything around us.

Thank you for that reminder.

Now go f*ck yourself, die promptly, and rot in hell you worthless f*ck.

Midas on August 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Mirror, Mirror, On The Wall, Who Has The Fairest GDP Average Of Them All?

Obama has resided over the worst recovery since the Great Depression. In US history, the rule has been: the deeper the economic contraction, the greater it recovers.

When Is MSNBC Going To Start Giving Obama Credit For This ‘Amazing Economy’?

Now, quit trying to hi-jack a thread. I know that you are willing to do anything to avoid a Democratic sexual abuser and harasser, but ‘TOUGH T!TTY SAID THE KITTY, THE MILK IS ALL GONE!’

PS: Does ‘slvt’ trump ‘slvtbag,’ ‘tw@t, and ‘cvnt’? Is Obama going to call Olivia?

Resist We Much on August 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Hee hee. Nice shut-down, RWM. Boom.

cynccook on August 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Yeah, they were to Jerry Sandusky.
ToddPA on August 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

ewww. I think I’ve grossly misunderstood something. I withdraw the question.

dieudonne on August 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

OT- Watching that sick F(ck (castro)on TV right now. Can’t believe they would let him get up there and spew that sh!t.

Barred on August 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Can you post a comment on the thread topic?

Good Lt on August 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Also, please ask it why liberals like to treat women so badly — not just the Filthmeister General, but all the other liberals who will still stupport him.

cynccook on August 1, 2013 at 1:03 PM

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

There are some days I think that I’ve come to the point where I truly and simply hate people. All of them.

And then you remind me that my hatred is best when focused on the specific individuals and ideologies that are destroying everything around us.

Thank you for that reminder.

Now go f*ck yourself, die promptly, and rot in hell you worthless f*ck.

Midas on August 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I like your understated approach in dealing with these
walking products of Cerebral hemmorage.

ToddPA on August 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth. At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Hey..by the way. As long as were talking about the Democrat Police Action on Women, could you tell us how many illegitimate children Jesse Jackson pays child support for?

oldroy on August 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM

OT- Watching that sick F(ck (castro)on TV right now. Can’t believe they would let him get up there and spew that sh!t.

Barred on August 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Like Filner & Weiner, Castro is a registered Democrat.

Disgusting sexual deviants.

sentinelrules on August 1, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Not a peep from Hot Air on last year’s upwardly revised GDP or this year’s relative growth. At a certain point aren’t conservatives going to have to accept that the increase in economic growth and the stagnation or decline of real wages proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

There was no growth. They simply changed the way they calculate GDP.

darwin on August 1, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Also, please ask it why liberals like to treat women so badly — not just the Filthmeister General, but all the other liberals who will still stupport him.

cynccook on August 1, 2013 at 1:03 PM

It seems to have run away.

Bitter Clinger on August 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Perhaps San Diego could establish some “rape-free zones.”

pain train on August 1, 2013 at 1:08 PM

proves that supply side economic theory was total bunk?

libfreeordie on August 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

1981:1…….……8.6
1981:2……..…-3.2 Volcker raises Federal Funds Rate to 20%.
1981:3…..……..4.9
1981:4………..-4.9 Reagan cuts income taxes and lowers capital gains tax (CGR) to 20%.
1982:1……..…-6.4
1982:2…………2.2 Agrees to a deal to rollback corporate tax cuts and some income tax cuts.
1982:3………..-1.5
1982:4…………0.3
1983:1…………5.1
1983:2…………9.3
1983:3…………8.1
1983:4…………8.5
1984:1…………7.9
1984:2…………7.1
1984:3…………3.9
1984:4…………3.3
1985:1…………3.8
1985:2…………3.4
1985:3…………6.4
1985:4…………3.1
1986:1…………3.9
1986:2…….…..1.6
1986:3…………3.9 Tax Reform Act of 1986. Among other things, the top marginal rate is cut to 28%.
1986:4…………1.9
1987:1…………2.2
1987:2…………4.3
1987:3…………3.5
1987:4…………7.0
1988:1…………2.1
1988:2…………5.2
1988:3…………2.1
1988:4…………5.5

Ronald Reagan average GDP: 3.54%.

Resist We Much on August 1, 2013 at 1:11 PM

WH: Since the beginning of 2009, the average absolute revision from the advance quarterly estimate of real GDP growth to the latest data was 1.3 percentage points.

So, even allowing for the Obama administration ‘Let’s Make Stuff Look Better’ revision:

Average GDP during Reagan’s tenure: 3.54%

Average GDP during Obama’s tenure: 1.3%

So, yeah, you’re completely right and everyone should take note to today’s date. Liveenslavedthendie is 100000000% correct!!!! Supply-side economics suck…if you like an economy that has a much bigger GDP than those pushed by Keynesians like Barack Obama.

Thanks for playing, princess.

Resist We Much on August 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM

As I mentioned in a previous thread on this clown…

We’ve all had a high-school teacher with industrial strength halitosis, who always managed to lean over your shoulder to explain something and would breath all over you in the process.

Filner looks like that teacher.

And libtardordie was his teacher’s pet.

CurtZHP on August 1, 2013 at 1:20 PM

OT: Obama Lover, Gen. Colin Powell, having an affair with white woman?
sentinelrules on August 1, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Hard to scoop the group at HA… What else does the government know about the current top brass, Congress critters, judges…

Fallon on August 1, 2013 at 1:24 PM

From Breitbart’s second story:

Two sources in City Hall with knowledge of the situation confirmed that the sexual harassment training would have been covered in those training sessions. The sessions are mandated by law to take place within six months of a new Mayor taking office. “It’s employee benefits, it’s new employee orientation, it’s sexual harassment training, it’s all of these things,” one source said.

Obviously Filner wanted to know about the benefits he’d gain and not want to learn of the “benefits” he’d lose.

Dusty on August 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM

All Larry Craig did was tap his foot.

SouthernRoots on August 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Libfreeordie? Democrat Police Action on Women? Filner. Weiner. Jesse Jackson’s many affairs and children. We need your input.

Where did you go? Another hit and run I guess.

oldroy on August 1, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Has the President called the victims yet to offer his support? Or possibly to have a beer with them? Or a wine cooler perhaps?

Maybe Hillary has called them and told them they would get the guy who produced the pornographic videos that the mayor watched that made him the way he is?

jjjdad on August 1, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Ahh the demon picture is back..that guy is just evil and makes weiner look like an angel

sadsushi on August 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM

I live in San Diego, & I don’t see what the big deal is. Pretty much EVERYONE is obsessed w/ sex here & as far as I can tell Filner is just like most everyone else. There is some myth that San Diego is one of the few conservative cities in San Diego b/c we can get some conservative things going in off year elections. But the prez year elections put the lie to that.

Seriously, I haven’t seen the movie for a while, but isn’t Filner straight from ‘Anchorman’ (set in San Diego). Sure that’s fiction & this is real life but people here consider that movie some sort of badge of honor. Always walking around ‘Stay Classy!’ this & ‘whale’s vagina!’ that!

Now we just have what we deserve: a mayor that could have been in that movie. I find it quite fitting.

blockchords on August 1, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I live in San Diego, & I don’t see what the big deal is. Pretty much EVERYONE is obsessed w/ sex here & as far as I can tell Filner is just like most everyone else. There is some myth that San Diego is one of the few conservative cities in San Diego b/c we can get some conservative things going in off year elections. But the prez year elections put the lie to that.

Seriously, I haven’t seen the movie for a while, but isn’t Filner straight from ‘Anchorman’ (set in San Diego). Sure that’s fiction & this is real life but people here consider that movie some sort of badge of honor. Always walking around ‘Stay Classy!’ this & ‘whale’s v*gina!’ that!

Now we just have what we deserve: a mayor that could have been in that movie. I find it quite fitting.

blockchords on August 1, 2013 at 2:09 PM

That face is the poster for Progressive Liberal Democrats everywhere…

… so are is actions.

Seven Percent Solution on August 1, 2013 at 3:08 PM

How about: Filner isn’t allowed to meet with women without him secured in a Hannibal Lechter mask and straight-jacket.

Socratease on August 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Is Perry the best they have? What a dope!

StevC on August 1, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Now that the Democrats have Filthy McNasty and Dick Dastardly representing them one wonders how many progressive ‘reporters’ are out there digging for any kind of sex related dirt on Republicans. After all, it damages that “War on Women” meme the LEFT harps on when they can’t find any other means of inspiring grievance in their base.

thatsafactjack on August 1, 2013 at 5:48 PM

“That face is the poster for Progressive Liberal Democrats everywhere…

… so are is actions.”

Seven Percent Solution on August 1, 2013 at 3:08 PM

And They will vote for him no matter what…
Those people are all geniuses.

shorebird on August 2, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Resist We Much on August 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

The alternative is use of firearms.

unclesmrgol on August 6, 2013 at 10:03 PM