Armed government agents raid animal shelter to euthanize baby deer

posted at 10:21 am on August 1, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

In Wisconsin, yet another example of the government’s overzealous attempts to punish citizens for good-faith interactions with wildlife, even if they’re saving said wildlife. This time, an armed raid to capture and euthanize a fawn at an animal shelter, which was on its way to a wildlife preserve. Government is just a word for things we do together, Bambi:

It was like a SWAT team,” shelter employee Ray Schulze said.

Two weeks ago, Schulze was working in the barn at the Society of St. Francis on the Kenosha-Illinois border when a swarm of squad cars arrived and officers unloaded with a search warrant.

“(There were) nine DNR agents and four deputy sheriffs, and they were all armed to the teeth,” Schulze said.

The focus of their search was a baby fawn brought there by an Illinois family worried she had been abandoned by her mother.

“When it made a little noise, it sounded like it was laughing,” Schulze said.

Schulze videotaped the fawn they named Giggles during the two weeks she was there. The Department of Natural Resources began investigating after two anonymous calls reporting a baby deer at the no-kill shelter.

The warden drafted an affidavit for the search warrant, complete with aerial photos in which he described getting himself into a position where he was able to see the fawn going in and out of the barn.

Agents told staff they came to seize the deer because Wisconsin law forbids the possession of wildlife.

So, they took the deer and killed it. Mercifully, I guess, the state has chosen not to press charges against this animal shelter for the horrible crime of trying to rehabilitate a deer abandoned by its mother in an animal shelter and transfer it to a wildlife preserve in Illinois, where wild deer are permitted by law. Apparently, if the shelter had had a state-issued permit for keeping a wild deer, everything would have been fine, which suggests keeping one is not inherently dangerous, despite that being the Department of Natural Resources’ justification for killing the fawn.

The representative of the animal shelter gave the government far too much credit:

“I was thinking in my mind they were going to take the deer and take it to a wildlife shelter, and here they come carrying the baby deer over their shoulder. She was in a body bag,” Schulze said. “I said, ‘Why did you do that?’ He said, ‘That’s our policy,’ and I said, ‘That’s one hell of a policy.’”

And a government spokesperson literally likened the raid to a drug bust:

“Could you have made a phone call before showing up, I mean, that’s a lot of resources,” WISN 12 News investigative reporter Colleen Henry asked.

“If a sheriff’s department is going in to do a search warrant on a drug bust, they don’t call them and ask them to voluntarily surrender their marijuana or whatever drug that they have before they show up,” Niemeyer said,

Previously, the government goes after those who try to save woodpeckers, eagles, save their families from bears, and the Kennedys are predictably treated with leniency after trying to save a sea turtle:

No bigs: Kennedy brothers violate Endangered Species Act rescuing sea turtle

Sigh: Indiana man faces possible jail time for nursing bald eagle back to health


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Don’t euthanize deer! But abortion providers are “heroes.” Only to deranged lunatics.

nyclakerfan on August 1, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Today, it’s baby deer…

BKeyser on August 1, 2013 at 10:24 AM

The Department of Natural Resources began investigating after two anonymous calls reporting a baby deer at the no-kill shelter.

Somewhere there is a smug little coward.

Flange on August 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Damn waste of tender venison.

Steve Eggleston on August 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Among the most insane things I’ve ever read. These are people with too much time on their hands who get their jollies from exercising their “power”, even at the expense of a baby deer and common sense. Utter madness.

We’re so screwed.

changer1701 on August 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Who Killed Bambi Lyrics – Sex Pistols

Gentle pretty thing
Who only had one spring
You bravely faced the world
Ready for anything
I’m happy that you lived
For your life is mine
What have I except to cry
Spirit never die
Birds of the air
Beasts of the earth
Overjoyed at Bambi’s birth they gambolled in the glade

[Chorus]
Who killed Bambi? [x9]

Murder murder murder
Someone should be angry
The crime of the century
Who shot little Bambi
Never trust a hippie
‘Cause I love punky Bambi
I’ll kill to find the killer
In that rotten roll army
All the spikey punkers
Believers in the ruins
With one big shout
They all cry out
Who killed Bambi?
Who?

Paul-Cincy on August 1, 2013 at 10:29 AM

The buck stops here!

Shy Guy on August 1, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Time to organize a children’s campaign against Bambi killers. Crying children asking why. A News directors dream.

meci on August 1, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Damn waste of tender venison.

Steve Eggleston on August 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM

not funny

stupid asses

gracie on August 1, 2013 at 10:30 AM

I don’t understand why the deer “had” to be killed.

Beyond that, let it be noted that the death of this one baby deer is going to get more national coverage than the “local” story of Kermit Gosnell and his thirty years of providing late-term abortions under unspeakable conditions.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM

They told me if I voted for Mittens government swat teams would come in and kill Bambi. And they were right!

So apparently it’s not having a baby deer that’s the problem, it’s having one without pre-approval of The Bureaucracy. Terry Gilliam’s Brazil was a warning, not an instruction manual.

What’s next, possessing aspirin without a license from the IRS?

rbj on August 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM

This seems completely insane. Can anyone offer a rational explanation for this kind of response by the DNR? Is is just ignorant administrators attempting to enforce a law, or is there some strange agenda here? The law forbids the possession of wildlife, therefore they seize and kill the wildlife? How does this make any sense?

dkmonroe on August 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM

I hope this story is out of The Onion.

Ellis on August 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Somewhere there is a smug little coward.

Flange on August 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM |

Yes, the trivial neighborhood narcs are the worst. In Virginia, someone narc’ed anonymously on a veteran who built a treehouse for his kids because it was visible from his front yard. Ugh.

Mary Katharine Ham on August 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Un-friggin-believable… you can’t make this stuff up….

To think that they would take an endangered animal (either by statute or age) and KILL it because the shelter didn’t have the appropriate license is completely twisted.

RedManBlueState on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Anybody here ever hear of Chronic Wasting Disease, usually referred to as CWD? The DNR acted entirely appropriately. And tough sh** to the lefty ladies at the no-kill shelter who broke clearly written and widely known law.

M240H on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

The Department of Natural Resources began investigating after two anonymous calls reporting a baby deer at the no-kill shelter.

Somewhere there is a smug little coward.

Flange on August 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Among the most insane things I’ve ever read. These are people with too much time on their hands who get their jollies from exercising their “power”, even at the expense of a baby deer and common sense. Utter madness.

We’re so screwed.

changer1701 on August 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM

The “BTK” serial killer was an “animal control officer”. Just sayin’. Power-hungry sadistic control freak.

Paul-Cincy on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

These are modern day Pharisees who demand you cross every T and dot every i and keep to not only the letter of the law but also to their utterly insane interpretation of the letter of the law. Yet they would be the first ones screaming if they were held to the save standard in how they conduct their own lives.

chemman on August 1, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Today, it’s baby deer…

BKeyser on August 1, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Yea, but the deer did not have a gun….

Barred on August 1, 2013 at 10:34 AM

“I said, ‘Why did you do that?’ He said, ‘That’s our policybecause I’m a hate filled pr!ck,’

antipc on August 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Per the other thread: THIS is why people become libertarians!

questionmark on August 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Yes, the trivial neighborhood narcs are the worst. In Virginia, someone narc’ed anonymously on a veteran who built a treehouse for his kids because it was visible from his front yard. Ugh.

Mary Katharine Ham on August 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Neighborhood comity is a tricky business. Man, it can get ugly.

Paul-Cincy on August 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Somewhere there is a smug little coward.

Flange on August 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM

No kidding. But let’s not forget the Warden who not only got the warrant but snuck over and put himself in position to get aerial photos of the fawn going in and out of the barn. Seems like stalking the possible presence of a fawn isn’t the most efficient use of the tax dollars used to pay that bastard gloating over killing a baby deer after some super smart sleuthing and surveillence of an organization called the Society of St Francis.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM

And yeah, I get that it’s ironic that this kind of story has the potential to garner more attention than Gosnell, but in my mind, they are two separate examples of the same thing – stupid barbarity practiced (or enabled) by the government.

However, I doubt whether this story will actually appear anywhere but here and other conservative blogs, because I don’t see that the mainstream media is interested in any sort of government malfeasance stories unless they can put the blame on a Republican.

dkmonroe on August 1, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Yes, the trivial neighborhood narcs are the worst. In Virginia, someone narc’ed anonymously on a veteran who built a treehouse for his kids because it was visible from his front yard. Ugh.

Mary Katharine Ham on August 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM

This type of cr*p is why I finally left the city and have moved to a very rural area. The county idiots won’t come back into the area because they would get run out on a rail. Nobody likes them and they know it.

chemman on August 1, 2013 at 10:37 AM

If animal shelter had told the SWAT team that the deer was a black mugger high on on meth, they would have left it alone.

MaiDee on August 1, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Example #3,098 that this Country has lost it’s Fu*king Mind.

ToddPA on August 1, 2013 at 10:39 AM

When they came for Bambi, I said nothing, because I was not the fawning type.

When they came for me, all I could muster was a lame, “Oh, deer.”

coldwarrior on August 1, 2013 at 10:40 AM

What do you bet those heros high fived over some beers & shooters after work?

bloviator on August 1, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Alternate Headline: “Obamacare Death Panels Rehearse”….

hillsoftx on August 1, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Why isn’t there a single name attached to this piece of lowfo journalism? Isn’t there a single unionized government employee that wants to show pride in their handiwork, ridding the world of…Giggles.

MNHawk on August 1, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Pathetic and sad.

Jack_Burton on August 1, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Un-friggin-believable… you can’t make this stuff up….

To think that they would take an endangered animal (either by statute or age) and KILL it because the shelter didn’t have the appropriate license is completely twisted.

RedManBlueState on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

They couldn’t take care of the animal themselves, because they don’t have the resources to do so, but they can’t let the shelter keep it, because The Law. Bye bye, Bambi.

dkmonroe on August 1, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Mary Katharine Ham on August 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Agreed about the narcs, and congratulations to you.

Flange on August 1, 2013 at 10:41 AM

In Virginia, someone narc’ed anonymously on a veteran who built a treehouse for his kids because it was visible from his front yard. Ugh.

Mary Katharine Ham on August 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Yeah, nevermind talking to your neighbors when you can anonymously tattle.

When I was living in California, the HOA had a rule that you had to be able to fit a car in your garage (to limit the number of cars on the street). One neighbor cracked their garage door enough to let their cat get in and out. I caught another neighbor stooped over taking pictures to “prove” that there wasn’t room for a car. No harm was being done but this vile neighbor decided to become the community Stasi representative.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Anybody here ever hear of Chronic Wasting Disease, usually referred to as CWD? The DNR acted entirely appropriately. And tough sh** to the lefty ladies at the no-kill shelter who broke clearly written and widely known law.

M240H on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

No, they didn’t. A simple phone call would have cleared things up. The SWAT-style armed raid was the result of no-account bureaucrats on a power trip. Their names and pictures should be plastered all over town, and they should never go another day without ridicule.

People like that need to be shamed back to their senses.

CurtZHP on August 1, 2013 at 10:43 AM

A big part of authority is the exercise of discretion and good judgment: someone out there could simply have called that shelter and told them to come in and get the required permit. But it remains true that no good deed shall go unpunished.

jackmac on August 1, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Scariest thing is that all these departments, from Education to Wildlife, are armed like the military for use against citizens. And they have indeed used it against citizens.

Would a GOP president have the guts to disarm the bureaucracy?

PattyJ on August 1, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Transporting deer across states lines is a big deal because of the risk of spreading chronic wasting disease. People have gone to prison for illegally importing deer from Wisconsin to Texas. Clearly a raid of that size was overkill but if the purpose is to mitigate CWD, that should have been mentioned in the article.

Hobo with a laptop on August 1, 2013 at 10:44 AM

MKH gave the vital clue in the first two words of the post: “In Wisconsin…”.

Yoop on August 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM

There is one constant with government employees; A complete lack of common sense.

Dasher on August 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Anybody here ever hear of Chronic Wasting Disease, usually referred to as CWD? The DNR acted entirely appropriately. And tough sh** to the lefty ladies at the no-kill shelter who broke clearly written and widely known law.

M240H on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

OK, just looked it up, but I’m curious – how does it apply to this situation? Is is communicable to humans? Would it have wiped out all the other animals in the shelter?

dkmonroe on August 1, 2013 at 10:46 AM

“If a sheriff’s department is going in to do a search warrant on a drug bust, they don’t call them and ask them to voluntarily surrender their marijuana or whatever drug that they have before they show up,” Niemeyer Doug Neidermeyer said,

FineasFinn on August 1, 2013 at 10:46 AM

M240H on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Do you perfectly obey every law? If not then you deserve to have the authorities show up loaded for bear and roust your arse. The problem isn’t in the enforcement of the law it is how they went about doing it.

chemman on August 1, 2013 at 10:47 AM

‘That’s our policy,’

Every time I hear this excuse for a lack compassion, common sense, and morals I want to backhand the the ignorant POS who hides behind it.

antipc on August 1, 2013 at 10:50 AM

M240H you are a KNUCKLEHEAD…you have to EAT Bambi to get CWD, and eat SPECIFIC PORTIONS of Bambi…

The shelter wasn’t going eat Bambi they were trying to transfer Bambi to another shelter.

And note DNR didn’t mention, at least in the blurb, CWD, merely that it was ILLEGAL to possess the wildlife….

And that the result was the DEATH of Bambi, rather than Bambi’s xsfer and continued existence.

So my conclusion is you are just dead wrong and being silly.

JFKY on August 1, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Maybe Jazz will show up here to defend the cops and naysay their rapid militarization

The other aspect of this is that the public is being increasingly groomed to report anything they see. That’s a good thing, normally, but due to indoctrination by the mindless schools and news media the public increasingly lacks the discernment to know real criminality from contrived such as this. This easily could be directed toward reporting conservatives or Christians one day. It’s not as far-fetched as some will think.

paul1149 on August 1, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Anybody here ever hear of Chronic Wasting Disease, usually referred to as CWD? The DNR acted entirely appropriately. And tough sh** to the lefty ladies at the no-kill shelter who broke clearly written and widely known law.

M240H on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Oh yeah, because Chronic Wasting Disease is breaking out everywhere as a result of people keeping baby deer as pets. The CDC has biologists working double and triple shifts to find an antidote before the outbreak reaches critical levels. Yes, the DNR raiding an animal shelter in the same way they would raid a meth house was entirely appropriate.

Pale Rider on August 1, 2013 at 10:54 AM

…the Kennedys are predictably treated with leniency after trying to save a sea turtle…

The Kennedys were treated with leniency after killing real live people, nevermind wildlife.

slickwillie2001 on August 1, 2013 at 10:54 AM

When I was living in California, the HOA had a rule that you had to be able to fit a car in your garage (to limit the number of cars on the street). One neighbor cracked their garage door enough to let their cat get in and out. I caught another neighbor stooped over taking pictures to “prove” that there wasn’t room for a car. No harm was being done but this vile neighbor decided to become the community Stasi representative.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 10:42 AM

A good friend (who died last year, in small part to this anecdote) had a run in with the HOA from hell, in association with his neighbor from hell. The HOA got a lawyer and decided my friend needed to pay for a twice weekly cleaning of the steps from his 2nd floor front door to the first floor landing for “excessive dog hair”. My friend got his own lawyer and beat them. But the psychological damage was done.

Paul-Cincy on August 1, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Transporting deer across states lines is a big deal because of the risk of spreading chronic wasting disease.

Hobo with a laptop on August 1, 2013 at 10:44 AM

So if that baby deer had walked across the border there would have been less risk of CWD? Driving a fawn to the local no-kill shelter can barely be called transporting deer across state lines! Preventing the spread of the Emerald Ash Borer is a bigger problem!

And did the martinets involved with the Kenosha Fawn Caper really have to take the fawn into the back and kill it on the spot? At a no-kill shelter. Whatever the public health threat Giggles posed, these people should be ashamed of their behavior.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Whiskey.
Tango.
Foxtrot.

Deafdog on August 1, 2013 at 10:55 AM

“I was thinking in my mind they were going to take the deer and take it to a wildlife shelter, and here they come carrying the baby deer over their shoulder. She was in a body bag,” Schulze said. “I said, ‘Why did you do that?’ He said, ‘That’s our policy,’ and I said, ‘That’s one hell of a policy.’”

“Neidermeyer, I don’t want anymore trouble like you had last year on the South Side. Understand? That’s my policy.”

“Yes. Well, when I see 5 weirdos dressed in togas stabbing a guy in the middle of the park in full view of 100 people, I shoot the bastards. That’s *my* policy.”

“That was a Shakespeare-In-The-Park production of “Julius Caesar”, you moron! You killed 5 actors! Good ones.”

Pale Rider on August 1, 2013 at 10:58 AM

IT’S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!

SHOOT IT!!

JohnGalt23 on August 1, 2013 at 11:00 AM

A good friend (who died last year, in small part to this anecdote) had a run in with the HOA from hell, in association with his neighbor from hell.

Paul-Cincy on August 1, 2013 at 10:54 AM

It is never a good thing when everybody begins to lawyer up. And afterward, how do you even pretend to act civily with a vile disgusting person who sics the HOA on you over dog hair?

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Whatever the public health threat Giggles posed, these people should be ashamed of horsewhipped for their behavior.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Cleombrotus on August 1, 2013 at 11:01 AM

-Can I help you?

“Yes maam, we had a report that there are two babies here who survived abortion procedures at Chicago General.

-Yes, I adopted them.

“I’m sorry maam but we need to put them down, they were never intended to live. Under section 12 of the BarkyCare law all abortion surviving babies must be eradicated. Just procedure, you understand.”

Bishop on August 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM

The Department of Natural Resources began investigating after two anonymous calls reporting a baby deer at the no-kill shelter.

How empty must your life be to make such an “anonymous” call?

Deafdog on August 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM

The DNR acted entirely appropriately. And tough sh** to the lefty ladies at the no-kill shelter who broke clearly written and widely known law.

M240H on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

“Hi, this is Keith from the DNR. We’ll need you to move that deer out to a reserve in the next 24 hours due to health concerns or face a fine, ok?”

Please explain why that wouldn’t have worked. Unless you show me a history of problems with that shelter (meth lab in the barn or something) this is the equivalent of throwing stupid college kids in dungeons for days without food or water for drug infractions.

Oh, wait…

ChicagoJewishGuy on August 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM

‘That’s our policy,’

Every time I hear this excuse for a lack compassion, common sense, and morals I want to backhand the the ignorant POS who hides behind it.

antipc on August 1, 2013 at 10:50 AM

I’m pretty sure the Death Panels will have their own police force to prevent violence everytime they use the “That’s our Policy” excuse to explain denial of treatment.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Mary Katharine ; )

Bmore on August 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Meh, we have such laws here specifically targeted towards game farms. There is a fairly simple and inexpensive test to perform on an animal to determine CWD and if a wild animal were to be caught, the test can be done and proof provided so as to keep the animal. I’ll bet Wisconsin has a similar law but maybe I’m wrong, that state is a cesspool of ignorance.

This militarization of LE at every level is what should be the focus, these guys are showing up at garage sales armed as if they’re planning to take on Hezbollah. A dozen dudes all sporting heavy gear at an animal shelter, come on.

Bishop on August 1, 2013 at 11:08 AM

How empty must your life be to make such an “anonymous” call?

Deafdog on August 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM

I’m picturing Gladys Kravitz lurking behind the blinds just waiting those St Francis people to do something reportable.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 11:08 AM

No comment from PETA?

Chris of Rights on August 1, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Anybody here ever hear of Chronic Wasting Disease, usually referred to as CWD? The DNR acted entirely appropriately. And tough sh** to the lefty ladies at the no-kill shelter who broke clearly written and widely known law.

M240H

You are stupid. CWD is transmissible if you *eat* the deer. I’m pretty sure they weren’t going to do that.

Of course, someone as stupid as you seem to be would be ok with jackbooted thugs breaking down YOUR door and killing one of your animals, right? Or, hell, if you don’t have animals, how about just smashing up the place a bit? You’d be fine with that I think.

Jackass.

Vancomycin on August 1, 2013 at 11:09 AM

-Can I help you?

“Yes maam, we had a report that there are two babies here who survived abortion procedures at Chicago General.

-Yes, I adopted them.

“I’m sorry maam but we need to put them down, they were never intended to live. Under section 12 of the BarkyCare law all abortion surviving babies must be eradicated. Just procedure, you understand.”

Bishop on August 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Why would I not be surprised?

CurtZHP on August 1, 2013 at 11:10 AM

You are stupid. CWD is transmissible if you *eat* the deer. I’m pretty sure they weren’t going to do that.

Of course, someone as stupid as you seem to be would be ok with jackbooted thugs breaking down YOUR door and killing one of your animals, right? Or, hell, if you don’t have animals, how about just smashing up the place a bit? You’d be fine with that I think.

Jackass.

Vancomycin on August 1, 2013 at 11:09 AM

By his own logic, law enforcement raiding a home where a family is about to eat venison for dinner is entirely appropriate.

Pale Rider on August 1, 2013 at 11:11 AM

So if that baby deer had walked across the border there would have been less risk of CWD? Driving a fawn to the local no-kill shelter can barely be called transporting deer across state lines! Preventing the spread of the Emerald Ash Borer is a bigger problem!

And did the martinets involved with the Kenosha Fawn Caper really have to take the fawn into the back and kill it on the spot? At a no-kill shelter. Whatever the public health threat Giggles posed, these people should be ashamed of their behavior.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 10:54 AM

The names of all the government thugs involved should be made public.

We should be doing more to shame fascists through public ridicule, from these goons through to the IRS.

slickwillie2001 on August 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Are there really people around who don’t believe government is out of f ing control? Our founders killed the British because they taxed there tea. Here we have the gubmint busting into someone’s private property because they freakin’ don’t like their subjects feeding the wildlife…

It’s time to refresh a tree I’ve heard a little about. If we don’t put a stop to this we will all be slaves/subjects to our new aristocracy, government bureaucrats!

Doomsday on August 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Their not there above…

Doomsday on August 1, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Pale Rider on August 1, 2013 at 11:11 AM

No, not true, the deer is ALREADY dead….and if it wasn’t alive when it crossed the state line, everything is kewl…..But whilst they’re there DNR might want to look around for any sofa tags removed, illegally or check for any fire arms improperly stored.

JFKY on August 1, 2013 at 11:15 AM

“Neidermeyer, I don’t want anymore trouble like you had last year on the South Side. Understand? That’s my policy.”

“Yes. Well, when I see 5 weirdos dressed in togas stabbing a guy in the middle of the park in full view of 100 people, I shoot the bastards. That’s *my* policy.”

“That was a Shakespeare-In-The-Park production of “Julius Caesar”, you moron! You killed 5 actors! Good ones.”

Pale Rider on August 1, 2013 at 10:58 AM

What is that from???

changer1701 on August 1, 2013 at 11:17 AM

I’m pretty sure the Death Panels will have their own police force to prevent violence everytime they use the “That’s our Policy” excuse to explain denial of treatment.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Pretty sure you’re right, and it’ll be a matter of necessity.

-John Q

antipc on August 1, 2013 at 11:18 AM

NOW, one thing I will say, usually people get mad at DNR or Game Wardens for “Being armed”, in these stories.

Game Wardens, Fish & Wildlife and the like are usually out in the wild…without any back-up…”Oh I’ve run into dangerous people, who can come out to 8 Mile Road very quickly?-answer NO ONE you are on your own….

So they are out in the woods dealing with ARMED people, armed folkz who have been breaking the law…..

So it doesn’t bother me that the Game Warden is “militarized” with a Glock .45 caliber. YOU could carry one, in my state, so the Game Warden is perfectly OK to carry one, too.

Which is not to say this raid makes any sense…or that we have to send LOTS of people out on this raid….I’d bring 4 deputies with me to YOUR FARM, on the suspicion you are hunting on a baited field or are running dog or cock-fighting….but it’s pointless and extreme to take four deputies to a NO KILL ANIMAL SHELTER.

JFKY on August 1, 2013 at 11:20 AM

This is why I am a libertarian. This is why I am outraged by the NSA IRS FEC EPA. These idiot bureaucrats are the C-students in high school, why on earth would we give them authority over anything?

John the Libertarian on August 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Gov. Scott Walker needs to fire the game warden, so the Democrats don’t blame Gov. Walker for killing Bambi.

Mercifully, I guess, the state has chosen not to press charges against this animal shelter for the horrible crime of trying to rehabilitate a deer abandoned by its mother in an animal shelter and transfer it to a wildlife preserve in Illinois, where wild deer are permitted by law.

Since when do wild animals need to be “permitted by law”? Lots of wild deer (and raccoons and bear) walk merrily across my father’s property in the Poconos, whether PA law permits it or not. There are lots of wild squirrels and rabbits running around my property in CT, maybe illegally. But SHHHHH…better watch out for the SWAT teams after the killer rabbit in my yard!

I could understand a game warden being upset about a wild animal that may threaten humans, such as a tiger, alligator, or python. But with so many wild deer running around Wisconsin and Illinois, which threaten no one, what difference would one more fawn make?

Steve Z on August 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM

What is that from???

I believe that’s from “The Naked Gun”.

Vancomycin on August 1, 2013 at 11:23 AM

“I was thinking in my mind they were going to take the deer and take it to a wildlife shelter, and here they come carrying the baby deer over their shoulder. She was in a body bag,” Schulze said. “I said, ‘Why did you do that?’ He said, ‘That’s our policy,’ and I said,

Mayor: Drebin, I don’t want anymore trouble like you had last year on the South Side. Understand? That’s my policy.

Frank: Yes. Well, when I see 5 weirdos dressed in togas stabbing a guy in the middle of the park in full view of 100 people, I shoot the bastards. That’s *my* policy.

Mayor: That was a Shakespeare-In-The-Park production of “Julius Caesar”, you moron! You killed 5 actors! Good ones.

PackerBronco on August 1, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Damn waste of tender venison.

Steve Eggleston on August 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM

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How do we know?

listens2glenn on August 1, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Would have turned out better if the shelter operator had put a hoodie on the fawn before the law arrived. Nothing bad can be found inside of a hoodie.

bofh on August 1, 2013 at 11:24 AM

NOW, one thing I will say, usually people get mad at DNR or Game Wardens for “Being armed”, in these stories.

They keep this kind of crap up and they’d better start being afraid of being out in the field.

Vancomycin on August 1, 2013 at 11:24 AM

If we don’t put a stop to this we will all be slaves/subjects to our new aristocracy, government bureaucrats!

Doomsday on August 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Don’t look now, but….

Cleombrotus on August 1, 2013 at 11:25 AM

No comment from PETA?

Chris of Rights on August 1, 2013 at 11:08 AM

PETA runs their own death camps for fury friends.

antipc on August 1, 2013 at 11:27 AM

It doesn’t bother me that they killed the baby deer, but I would like to know why it’s their “policy”. I can’t believe it’s CWD (chronic wasting disease) related.

I would also like to know why they used such “domination/force” in carrying out this “mission”.

listens2glenn on August 1, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Would have turned out better if the shelter operator had put a hoodie on the fawn before the law arrived. Nothing bad can be found inside of a hoodie.

bofh on August 1, 2013 at 11:24 AM

JUSTICE FOR GIGGLES!

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Well, I guess we know why the Feds are buying up all the ammunition.

rogaineguy on August 1, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Anybody here ever hear of Chronic Wasting Disease, usually referred to as CWD? The DNR acted entirely appropriately. And tough sh** to the lefty ladies at the no-kill shelter who broke clearly written and widely known law.

M240H on August 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM

And you know this deer had that condition how? And even if it did, it’s appropriate to send over a dozen heavily armed LEOs to an animal shelter over a baby deer? I guess just walking into the shelter and asking to see the baby deer wouldn’t send the right message to these hardened criminals.

If a diseased animal poses that much of a risk, then you don’t waste time taking aerial photos. Besides, plenty of sick animals walk into back yards every day with mange, rabies, and all sorts of conditions.

RadClown on August 1, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Among the most insane things I’ve ever read. These are people with too much time on their hands who get their jollies from exercising their “power”, even at the expense of a baby deer and common sense

With all the rules they have to operate under protecting criminals and punishing any independent exercise of “common sense”, most decent, intelligent people who might want the job in order to help their community have left law enforcement. What’s left are bullies and goldbrickers.

Socratease on August 1, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Which is not to say this raid makes any sense…or that we have to send LOTS of people out on this raid….I’d bring 4 deputies with me to YOUR FARM, on the suspicion you are hunting on a baited field or are running dog or cock-fighting….but it’s pointless and extreme to take four deputies to a NO KILL ANIMAL SHELTER.

JFKY on August 1, 2013 at 11:20 AM

I agree with all that you posted. Yes, you don’t want to have unarmed DNR people back in the woods where they might stumble on a pot operation or meth lab. But a full armed team to deliver a warrant over a fawn at the Society of St. Francis no kill shelter? Did they think Giggles was armed and apt to put up a fight?

And Kenosha or the WI DNR really needs to provide the rationale behind a policy for summary execution of the illegals who sneak across the border from Illinois.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 11:39 AM

“If a sheriff’s department is going in to do a search warrant on a drug bust, they don’t call them and ask them to voluntarily surrender their marijuana or whatever drug that they have before they show up,” Niemeyer said,

“’cause, like…ahhh…Bambi is dangerous…” Jeantel of the gov’t world. Only fools are in gov’t any more.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM

PC will euthanize you all, just a matter of time.

Schadenfreude on August 1, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Did they think Giggles was armed and apt to put up a fight?

They are NEVER more dangerous than when they are cornered and fighting for their lives…

JFKY on August 1, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Having dealt with the DNR for quite a few years, I’ve come to know them as police/military wannabe’s. The DNR that patrolled the beaches of Lake Michigan were known for stopping people for “speeding” and trying to freak them out, sometimes even calling local police to issue tickets.

More militarization of the law enforcement…all to shoot bambi.

Flashwing on August 1, 2013 at 11:59 AM

More militarization of the law enforcement…all to shoot bambi.

I think this raid is as silly as the next person, except for M240H, but how is this “militarization of the law enforcement?” And what does that term, mean?

Did the DNR folkz and the deputies raid the place by:
1) A 5 minute prep fire of mortars and/or arty?
2) Did they then “fast rope” in from an UH-60?
3) Were they in an MRAP?
4) Did they have M-4′s, M-249′s, M-240′s, did they have fast movers and attack helo’s On-Call?

This isn’t about some vague term, “Militarization”…it’s about a lack of a sense of proportion and the confusion of the ABILITY to employ force with the NECESSITY of employing force.

1 DNR person, armed, because they tend to BE armed, with the warrant would have been enough. And I don’t care if they had ties and Corframs, or were in full body armour…that’s neither here nor there…

The questions are:
1) For one fawn was this even necessary; and
2) Did you really need FOUR Deputy Sheriffs?

JFKY on August 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Wonder where the tree-hugging nature-loving environmentalists are on this; no outrageous outrage expressed yet?

Midas on August 1, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Besides, plenty of sick animals walk into back yards every day with mange, rabies, and all sorts of conditions.

RadClown on August 1, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Damn, man – keep it down – you’ll have DNR raiding all of our backyards, ffs. /

Midas on August 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Yes, the trivial neighborhood narcs are the worst. In Virginia, someone narc’ed anonymously on a veteran who built a treehouse for his kids because it was visible from his front yard. Ugh.

This is all by design, though. When the party pols receive a diktat from the politburo to spy on your each other, we all are subject to whims of our nosy neighbors.

Used to be, it was just the elderly woman looking out her window for gossip material at Tuesday night’s Bridge club. Now it’s out-of-work, liberal snitches reporting on their neighbors out of envy and spite to make themselves feel better.

On another note, where’s PETA in all this? Or does PETA just worry about Republican-leaning business owners and private citizens? I guess they become a bunch of Sgt. Schultzes when a Democrat-government agency steps in to murder a baby deer.

conservablogger on August 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

These idiot bureaucrats are the C-students in high school, why on earth would we give them authority over anything?

John the Libertarian on August 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM

A nonsensical statement…becasue UNLESS you’re from Lake Woebegone, “Where all the children are above average” approximately 70% of us are “C Students.”

“C Students” jumped into Normandy, Stormed Omaha, waded ashore at Betio, raised the flag on Suribachi, fought at the Chosin, sweated and froze in the Central Highlands, re-took Hue, liberated Kuwayt, and built the American economy….

And people think Libertarians are elitists…PSHAW…they just look down their noses at the C students, who make the place work…

JFKY on August 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Did the DNR folkz and the deputies raid the place by:
1) A 5 minute prep fire of mortars and/or arty?
2) Did they then “fast rope” in from an UH-60?
3) Were they in an MRAP?
4) Did they have M-4′s, M-249′s, M-240′s, did they have fast movers and attack helo’s On-Call?

JFKY on August 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

For God’s sake don’t give the DNR any ideas! As it is, they were better armed than the folks at the Benghazi consulate on the night of Sept. 11, 2012.

The aerial photographs of the battlespace is particularly amusing. I have visions of a beer-bellied warden climbing up a tree to do the recon necessary to take out Giggles.

Happy Nomad on August 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

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