MSNBC panel: My, Ted Cruz & company are certainly a lot like “the Taliban”

posted at 2:21 pm on July 31, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

After Sen. Ted Cruz specifically has been accused of taking the push one step too far,  Sens. Lee, Rubio, and Cruz all took to the Senate floor on Wednesday morning for a speaking session on exactly why it is that they are undertaking the endeavor to defund ObamaCare. (I might add that, as much heat as Rubio’s been taking for other things lately, I’ve often appreciated his ability to talk an amazingly simple, articulate, and persuasive game on the buoying effect of free markets for the middle class, totally off the cuff, and his speaking slot starting at about 8:50 puts the economically damaging brand of liberal populism President Obama has been peddling lately to shame.)

Republicans are definitely split on whether the tactics of threatening a government shutdown without defunding Obamacare is really a smart tactical move, and goodness knows the media is ever-eager to jump on Republicans ‘infighting,’ but according to Daily Beast editor Tina Brown on MSNBC this morning, Mr. Cruz’s long game is pretty much downright Congressional terrorism. Via Mediaite:

“Have you seen what Ted Cruz is doing?” Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough said Wednesday morning. “Ted Cruz is attacking anybody who’s not willing to shut down the government over the government over Obamacare. He’s lambasting fellow conservatives like Tom Coburn—Tom Coburn!—and saying that he serves in the surrender caucus.” …

“Jon Favreau’s written a great piece in the Daily Beast about this whole trend now about not the small government conservative, but the no government conservative,” said Tina Brown, editor of the Daily Beast. “That is what Tom Cruz is a member of. This is the Taliban.”

Yes, those floor speeches this morning certainly were quite Taliban-ish, wouldn’t you say? And speaking of that Jon Favreau piece — Michael Walsh had some words about his inimicable burning of the newfound “no-government conservative” straw man over at National Review. Do it.


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They aren’t called MSLSD for nothing…..

viking01 on July 31, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Then why isn’t MSNBC doing everything to cater to him, like they would the real Taliban?

Flange on July 31, 2013 at 2:26 PM

“Jon Favreau’s written a great piece in the Daily Beast about this whole trend now about not the small government conservative, but the no government conservative,” said Tina Brown, editor of the Daily Beast. “That is what Tom Cruz is a member of. This is the Taliban.”

Tina, name ONE ‘no government’ ANYONE in Congress.

Just one.

I’d like to meet him or her.

BTW: The Taliban is anything except no government. It IS big government.

Resist We Much on July 31, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Liberals think Conservatives are more dangerous than the Taliban, and many have said so.

Mourning Joe has nothing to worry about except maybe getting some new material.

Liam on July 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM

If the body wasn’t found in Joe’s office, none of this would have happened.

faraway on July 31, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Republicans are definitely split on whether the tactics of threatening a government shutdown without defunding Obamacare is really a smart tactical move,

Wait, I thought the idea was to defund Obamacare without a government shut down.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 2:31 PM

faraway on July 31, 2013 at 2:30 PM

And he would probably have a bigger audience at the time of morning as a member of Congress. /

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Wow, I should have thought of this myself. After all, the Taliban would absolutely be opposed to greater government control.

#headdesk

Seriously, do they even hear the words that come out of their mouths?

Chris of Rights on July 31, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Cruz seems to be good people, but in my not-so-humble estimation, he hasn’t gone far enough.

gryphon202 on July 31, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Wait, I thought the idea was to defund Obamacare without a government shut down.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Screw that noise. I WANT government shut down, and the sooner it happens and the longer it lasts, the better!

gryphon202 on July 31, 2013 at 2:35 PM

That is what Tom Cruz is a member of. This is the Taliban.”

Is this a signal that Obama is about to begin negotiations with the Tea Party?

faraway on July 31, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Liberals, like Scarborough, aren’t used to return fire from the right. They think they can hurl charged and insults with immunity; Cruz and Co are not letting them get away with it.

Tater Salad on July 31, 2013 at 2:37 PM

If they keep this up, their remaining viewer is going to leave them.

kingsjester on July 31, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Which is why no one watches this station

RdLake on July 31, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Screw that noise. I WANT government shut down, and the sooner it happens and the longer it lasts, the better!

gryphon202 on July 31, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Oh Yes! That would scare a lot of federal bureaucrats…..too many people might discover how well we can do without them and would want to make it permanent.

hawkeye54 on July 31, 2013 at 2:38 PM

I have it from a person I trust that Harry Reid has sex with children. Pederast.

In other news, Heather Mallick is a pig.

jaime on July 31, 2013 at 2:40 PM

This is a part of the quote from Scarborough from the headlines…..

He is attacking Tom Coburn as being a member of the surrender caucus, when Tom Coburn—and yes, Senator Cruz, and I—put our political lives on the line more in six months than Ted Cruz will put his on the line in a lifetime.”

What the heck does that mean? How does Scarborough include himself in anything? Is he hoping that Coburn will have a public war of words with Paul also?

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 2:41 PM

SEQUESTER!!!!!! ARRRGGGGGHHH!!!!!!

Yes, MSNBC, I am a scary monster. /

Turtle317 on July 31, 2013 at 2:41 PM

“Jon Favreau’s written a great piece in the Daily Beast about this whole trend now about not the small government conservative, but the no government conservative,” said Tina Brown, editor of the Daily Beast. “That is what Tom Cruz is a member of. This is the Taliban.”

There is so much fail in this, it’s hard to know where to begin.

Red Cloud on July 31, 2013 at 2:42 PM

OT but another Taliban, Larry Arnn, the president of Hillsdale College took heat from several lawmakers during a hearing today in which he said state officials visited his campus to determine whether enough “dark ones” were enrolled.

Larry Arnn, the president of the private college, made the comments during a subcommittee hearing on Michigan’s adoption of the Common Core State Standards. Arnn, who spoke in opposition of the standards, prefaced his comments by describing an experience when he began as president in the early 2000s in which state officials criticized his college for, as he said, not having enough “dark” students.

When it was time for lawmakers on the committee to question Arnn, several Democrats on the committee said they found his comments offensive.

“You’re the president of a college. I would expect better out of you,” said Rep. David Knezek, D-Dearborn Heights.

Arnn tried to explain that his school’s charter says the college will accept students without regard to race. But he was cut off.

Flange on July 31, 2013 at 2:43 PM

I might add that, as much heat as Rubio’s been taking for other things lately, I’ve often appreciated his ability to talk an amazingly simple, articulate, and persuasive game on the buoying effect of free markets for the middle class, totally off the cuff

Erika

He’s useful for some things. We just need to ensure that we use him for our purposes before we throw him away.

beatcanvas on July 31, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Here’s the link to the Larry Arnn story

Flange on July 31, 2013 at 2:44 PM

There is not another morning show where it’s more obvious as they walk into the studio at 4, 4:15 am that they are just handed a FAX from Valerie Jarrett. Fortunately I’ve read the ratings are worse than usual for Scarbrorough, and they are actually HIGHER time and time again when he’s completely not there.

Marcus on July 31, 2013 at 2:44 PM

The Obama administration is more engaged with the actual Taliban than the GOP on the budget.

chimney sweep on July 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Cruz should publicly offer to go on Joe’s show and have a one-on-one discussion; Joe may set a world record for running backwards to get away from that opportunity.

Tater Salad on July 31, 2013 at 2:47 PM

And Obama and company are ‘Fisters’.

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Galt2009 on July 31, 2013 at 2:48 PM

If they were the Taliban they would wait outside the MSNBC studio, and strike your face with the butts of their AK-47s, and spit on you, and insult and threaten your family, and perhaps even show you the soles of their sandals.

claudius on July 31, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Yes, those floor speeches this morning certainly were quite Taliban-ish, wouldn’t you say?

It is a well known fact that GWB orchestrated the war in Afghanistan because of the Taliban’s inflammatory rhetoric. That whole planes crashing into buildings thing was mere cover for intemperate use of dangling participles.

Happy Nomad on July 31, 2013 at 2:49 PM

“You’re the president of a college. I would expect better out of you,” said Rep. David Knezek, D-Dearborn Heights.

Flange on July 31, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Arne should have replied- You’re a member of Congress, I know not to expect anything out of you. Especially a guy from Dearbornistan

Happy Nomad on July 31, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Michael Walsh had some words about his inimicable burning of the newfound “no-government conservative” straw man

Nice.

John the Libertarian on July 31, 2013 at 2:54 PM

My, NPR (in addition to MSNBC) is an arm of the Leftists.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/354850/no-irs-did-not-target-progressives-it-targeted-conservatives-david-french

This includes a telling chart.

onlineanalyst on July 31, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Just for sharts and giggles, Ted “Tom” Cruz should send Tina tickets to an FC Dallas or Houston Dynamo match and invite her to join him on-field for the halftime “show.”

MUWAHAHAHAH!

Christien on July 31, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Remember Folks,

Mornin’ Joe Scarborough is a respected Republican amongst the HotAir Staff.

Same with Dave Weigel.

Even after Joe and Dave show their true colors.

portlandon on July 31, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Great comedy show

cmsinaz on July 31, 2013 at 3:05 PM

The list of folks eligible for any future vote I cast is short. I will vote for Ted Cruz.

Bmore on July 31, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Wait, I thought the idea was to defund Obamacare without a government shut down.

[Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 2:31 PM]

Yeah, Cindy. I’ve just about given up. We can’t even get leading conservative blog sites to stop with the knee-jerk repetition of the left’s fraudulent narrative talking points.

Cruz is for continued funding of the government absent Obamacare. The Dems can choose to take it or shut down the government.

Yet the quote you excerpt is how Erika chooses to frame it. And if framing applies for Obamacare, then it applies for every last penny of funding for the government that the Dems want to keep.

Dusty on July 31, 2013 at 3:07 PM

MSNBC took the conservative message, changed it, and then argued against the position as “extreme”?

You don’t say.

It is very telling that these people must first mischaracterize our position before arguing against something that was not truly the position.

weaselyone on July 31, 2013 at 3:11 PM

I’d love to watch the Taliban chop off the folls’ heads.

Joe thinks with his other head…the one in Mika’s panties.

Schadenfreude on July 31, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Heh “makes me sad when Rs say bad things about other Rs”, and then he proceeds to do it. God, Joe, you are as stupid as all the others on MSNBC.

Schadenfreude on July 31, 2013 at 3:14 PM

There is so much fail in this, it’s hard to know where to begin.

[Red Cloud on July 31, 2013 at 2:42 PM]

Start with a picture of him. That’s Favreau on the left.

Dusty on July 31, 2013 at 3:15 PM

“That is what Tom Cruz is a member of. This is the Taliban.”

As far as I’m concerned, statements like that disqualify you from being taken seriously in any public discourse. It’s an admission that you’re an overwrought simpleton.

RadClown on July 31, 2013 at 3:22 PM

[Schadenfreude on July 31, 2013 at 3:14 PM]

Stupid is not the right word. He talks about he and Coburn fighting a war. Against who? Who was their enemy?

The same people who now sign his paycheck and contributors who describe members of his team as being the Taliban.

Dusty on July 31, 2013 at 3:23 PM

These creeps give Cruz free marketing.

Schadenfreude on July 31, 2013 at 3:28 PM

This constant attempt to paint conservatives as terrorists isn’t a mistake. It’s how they intend to justify legal action against you when they consolidate power.

DFCtomm on July 31, 2013 at 3:28 PM

I guess these are the “friends” John McCain is always mentioning?

lynncgb on July 31, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Dusty on July 31, 2013 at 3:07 PM

With friends like these…….

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Liberals burned out the term ‘Nazi’ to describe Conservatives, so they’re going to beat to death the term ‘Taliban’. The one-trick pony Left just changes around a word or two every once in a while, but it’s the same old game they’ve been playing for decades.

Liam on July 31, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I guess these are the “friends” John McCain is always mentioning?

lynncgb on July 31, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Schumer Republicans.

Liam on July 31, 2013 at 3:35 PM

MSNBC panel: My, Ted Cruz & company are certainly a lot like “the Taliban”

That assertion is unsupportable, untrue, absurd, and ridiculous.

OTOH, that the MSNBC panel & company are a lot like Pravda is an easily supportable assertion and there is a lot of truth in it.

farsighted on July 31, 2013 at 3:36 PM

What the heck does that mean? How does Scarborough include himself in anything? Is he hoping that Coburn will have a public war of words with Paul also?

[Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 2:41 PM]

He and Coburn entered Congress at the same time, in 1995. He fought side by side with Coburn in the trenches, risking his career day and day out, braving the swamp’s …. I don’t, mosquitoes or something.

Now he’s making a good living getting paid by those he fought against to frag his fellow Republicans.

Dusty on July 31, 2013 at 3:36 PM

I’m seeing the word Taliban when it cimes to the Republicans more and more.I won’t be surprised when pictures are shown of Cruz and others holding severed heads and the leftist will believe it.How many talking point memo’s with Taliban are circulating amongst the ranks?

docflash on July 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM

NY Times reporter Mark Leibovich’s new book “This Town” describes how the people in “The Club” of which Tina Brown and Scarborough are members of, go about their strategic agenda of cutting out the ground from any conservative before they can gain any traction.

He says it’s all political theater. They are all drinking buddies in “The Club” and in on promoting the K Street corruption and letting the good times roll.

He refers to it as “The Joke” because it’s on us. That why Paul Ryan shows up at the Game Change premier. Why Haley Barbour, or Ed Gilliespie go around the country play acting debating Terry McAuliffe at $40g a pop each. Why little Jebbie and his daddy end up at the White House spending a quiet little afternoon with Dumb-Ø. How people like Mary Maitlan and Carville can be married. They are all aligned against conservatives and want the corrupt K Street greed to continue flowing. They think we are stupid because we continue to vote against our own best interests and allow the corruption to continue.

The good times keep rolling in the “District of Corruption” and the stupid masses keep allowing the elites to divide us into parties instead of focusing on the corruption and throwing them all out!

What a joke!

Jayrae on July 31, 2013 at 3:42 PM

I’m seeing the word Taliban when it cimes to the Republicans more and more.

docflash on July 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM

I swear they got it from liberal blogs. The Taliban equivalence has been showing up there for quite a long time.

lynncgb on July 31, 2013 at 3:48 PM

docflash on July 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM

I guess Hitler has lost it’s panache or they decided they needed something less singular.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Jayrae on July 31, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Hmmm, now you have me interested in this book.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 3:58 PM

MSNBC is a rancid slime pot full of idiots.

rplat on July 31, 2013 at 3:59 PM

There’s no reason to compromise with ‘wrong’.
Obamacare is wrong.

Dexter_Alarius on July 31, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I swear they got it from liberal blogs. The Taliban equivalence has been showing up there for quite a long time.

lynncgb on July 31, 2013 at 3:48 PM

This started because conservatives tend to be religious and because of social conservatism. Liberals claim that “christian fundamentalism” (by which they mean pro-life and anti-same-sex marriage) is equivalent to Islamic fundamentalism. Thus, conservatism = the Taliban.

That is what passes for thinking on the left.

Monkeytoe on July 31, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Hmmm, now you have me interested in this book.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 3:58 PM

It should be required reading for every American voter.

If you don’t want to purchase the book get it from the library. It’s a quick read.

Jayrae on July 31, 2013 at 4:39 PM

I swear they got it from liberal blogs. The Taliban equivalence has been showing up there for quite a long time.

lynncgb on July 31, 2013 at 3:48 PM

This started because conservatives tend to be religious and because of social conservatism. Liberals claim that “christian fundamentalism” (by which they mean pro-life and anti-same-sex marriage) is equivalent to Islamic fundamentalism. Thus, conservatism = the Taliban.

That is what passes for thinking on the left.

Monkeytoe on July 31, 2013 at 4:31 PM

But don’t you dare call the proggies communists or fascists.

slickwillie2001 on July 31, 2013 at 4:43 PM

I might add that, as much heat as Rubio’s been taking for other things lately, I’ve often appreciated his ability to talk an amazingly simple, articulate, and persuasive game on the buoying effect of free markets for the middle class, totally off the cuff, and his speaking slot starting at about 8:50 puts the economically damaging brand of liberal populism President Obama has been peddling lately to shame.

Very true, Rubio was my favorite candidate for President in 2016 but we’ve since learned that he can’t be trusted and that he will all too gladly stand against us and stand strong with Chuck Schumer, Obama and the Democrats to implement Teddy Kennedy’s dream of 20+ million new Democrat voters, ensuring a permanent national Democrat majority.

I’ll be voting for someone not in the ACORN wing of the Republican Party.

RJL on July 31, 2013 at 4:47 PM

I would normally call the MSNBC panel a bunch of communist apparatchiks… but the communist apparatchiks understood that the Taliban handed them their butts and it was best not to speak about them. Thus communist apparatchiks are smarter than the MSNBC panel and I would not award them IQ above where it should be….

Thus I’m down to slime mold. Save it has a useful function in nature.

And I don’t want to besmirch nor slander slime mold.

ajacksonian on July 31, 2013 at 4:53 PM

BTW I’m coming to believe that MSLSD only exists because of hits it gets from outraged pseudo-conservatives over the outlandish statements that its brain dead panelists who serve no useful natural function and are in all ways oxygen thieves propagate.

If you would stop giving them hits they just might go away forever as their business model now depends on the freebie outrage hits.

ajacksonian on July 31, 2013 at 4:56 PM

What vicious children. What slanderous little brats. They can’t even conceive of what the Taliban is like. The “Taliban” is just a “construct” to these people, a term understood only as a means to smear others. They’ve never given a second of thought to the girls genitally mutilated, the Christian boys decapitated, the gays hung on utility poles or any other barbarity of actual theocratic monsters. Who are we fighting? No one, really. Not an actual enemy. We just send troops overseas for no good reason other than our “imperialism” or in a “war for oil.”

I’d like to scoop up these spoiled punks and dump them in some medieval hellhole in Afghanistan and let them see what and who the “Taliban” actually are.

rrpjr on July 31, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Start with a picture of him. That’s Favreau on the left.

oh boy! the shirtless beer pong guy that writes speeches. Does he still get paid? Obama hasn’t said anything new since 2008.

DanMan on July 31, 2013 at 5:51 PM

When the lamestream media demonizes someone this badly, you know he’s got to be doing something right.

Sterling Holobyte on July 31, 2013 at 5:52 PM

I guess Hitler has lost it’s panache or they decided they needed something less singular.

Cindy Munford on July 31, 2013 at 3:57 PM

The liberals had to find a different comparison because they finally realized that they’ve morphed into the Nazi party with most of their practices and views.

Sterling Holobyte on July 31, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Isn’t this an Islamophobic insinuation?

How dare they be racists about poor Muslims!

profitsbeard on July 31, 2013 at 11:27 PM