Sen. Burr: Block a continuing resolution without ObamaCare defunding? That’s the “dumbest idea I’ve ever heard”

posted at 10:01 am on July 26, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

The movement to enter the inevitable budget battle this fall armed with ObamaCare’s funding as a political weapon is apparently gaining some traction on Capitol Hill; as Guy mentioned yesterday, the number of Republican Congresspeople adding their names to the Rubio/Cruz/Lee-led push to defund the health care law is growing, and Sen. Mike Lee just dropped this little note in Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s inbox:

Dear Leader Reid:

We view the Obama Administration’s recent decision to delay ObamaCare’s employer mandate and eligibility verification for the individual exchanges as further proof the law is a failure that will inevitably hurt businesses, American families, and the economy.

In light of this admission, we believe the only way to avert disaster is to fully repeal ObamaCare and start over with a more sensible, practical approach to reforming our healthcare system.

However, if Democrats will not agree with Republicans that ObamaCare must be repealed, perhaps they can at least agree with the president that the law cannot be implemented as written.  If the administration will not enforce the law as written, then the American people should not be forced to fund it.

This is a matter not only of fiscal prudence, but of fundamental fairness as well. The president cannot seriously expect to waive ObamaCare’s onerous mandates on large businesses, while simultaneously forcing individuals and families to pay to implement an individual mandate the public has opposed since before the law was even passed.

For these reasons, we will not support any continuing resolution or appropriations legislation that funds further implementation or enforcement of ObamaCare.

Sincerely,

Sens. Lee, Rubio, Cruz, Risch, Paul, Inhofe, Vitter, Thune, Chiesa, Enzi, Fischer, and Grassley.

Oh, boy. Not everyone, of course, is on board, via The Hill:

Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) slammed a proposal to block a continuing resolution on federal funding unless ObamaCare is defunded.

“I think it’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard,” Burr told journalist Todd Zwilich Thursday. “Listen, as long as Barack Obama is president the Affordable Care Act is gonna be law.” …

“I think some of these guys need to understand that you shut down the federal government, you better have a specific reason to do it that’s achievable,” Burr continued. “Defunding the Affordable Care Act is not achievable through shutting down the federal government. At some point you’re gonna open the federal government back up and he won’t have signed this illusion of the Affordable Care Act.”

And indeed, others are pointing out that fully repealing the law is going to be the only effective way of actually getting rid of it; Sen. Lee’s fellow Utahan Sen. Orrin Hatch is all about the repeal efforts, but thinks that Lee’s “not going to win on that, and that will open the Republicans up to all kinds of false criticism.” Karl Rove agrees that it’ll give Democrats another chance to tee off on Republican obstructionism:

And Byron York doesn’t think it’ll be an effective tactic, either:

The defund-Obamacare Republicans in the Senate hope to strip out that discretionary funding from a continuing resolution needed to fund the government that Congress will debate in September.

They know they won’t succeed. Democrats, with 54 votes, have enough to pass anything that requires a simple majority, and won’t have much trouble getting to a filibuster-proof 60 votes, either. “I could count six or seven Republicans who would vote for full funding of the continuing resolution without breaking a sweat,” says one Senate aide who supports defunding. “So they’re going to get to 60.”

But that’s just the discretionary part of Obamacare. The far bigger portions of the program, including the billions and billions of dollars in subsidies that will start going to Americans on Jan. 1, are mandatory spending, an entitlement funded by an automatic appropriation which is written into law and runs without further congressional action. To change that, Congress would have to change Obamacare.

Get ready for the inevitable Congressional drama that’s on the way.


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Shut 0 down!!!

Bmore on July 26, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Stop it By Any Means Necessary.

Flange on July 26, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Who says NC does extreme?

nobar on July 26, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Let it fail by forcing Obama to fully honor his own law. Don’t defund. Either repeal with no replacement or nothing. All the way or none of the way. Let the Democrats have the disaster they set afoot. A disaster that you tinker with is still a disaster.

At this point if the Republican party simply gets a name change to the affordable care act pushed through, they will be given the blame for the disaster.

oldroy on July 26, 2013 at 10:08 AM

DUDE?

Ben Hur on July 26, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Why advertise this? Congress passes so many bills that they never read that you just quietly slip the provision dissolving ObamaCare in a highway bill. Problem solved.

JSchuler on July 26, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Hope somebody is going to primary this Burr squid.

DanMan on July 26, 2013 at 10:10 AM

The purpose of government is to take care of you, and Republicans don’t want you taken care of.

That’s the Narrative, and if conservatives don’t come up with a better one, we’re full speed ahead on the Socialism Express.

Bat Chain Puller on July 26, 2013 at 10:11 AM

But that’s just the discretionary part of Obamacare. The far bigger portions of the program, including the billions and billions of dollars in subsidies that will start going to Americans on Jan. 1, are mandatory spending, an entitlement funded by an automatic appropriation which is written into law and runs without further congressional action. To change that, Congress would have to change Obamacare.

Obama follows/breaks whatever law he chooses. Perhaps it’s time to fight fire with fire.

Bitter Clinger on July 26, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Hope somebody is going to primary this Burr squid.

DanMan on July 26, 2013 at 10:10 AM

I know that a local doctor here is going to primary, but I don’t remember if it was for Hagan’s seat (Burr is up in 2016 I think).

nobar on July 26, 2013 at 10:13 AM

If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing
Without a license, but not for being in the
Country illegally …you might live in a country
Founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If you have to get your parents’ permission to go
On a field trip or take an aspirin in school,
But not to get an abortion … You might live in
A country founded by geniuses but run by
Idiots.

If the only school curriculum
Allowed to explain how we got here is evolution,
But the government stops a $15 million
Construction project to keep a rare spider from
Evolving to extinction .. You might live in a
Country founded by geniuses but run by
Idiots.

If you have to show identification to board an
Airplane, cash a check, buy liquor or check out
A library book, but not to vote who runs the
Government … You might live in a country
Founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If the government wants to ban stable, law-abiding
Citizens from owning gun magazines with more
Than ten rounds, but gives 20 F-16 fighter jets
To the crazy new leaders in Egypt … You might
Live in a country founded by geniuses but run by
Idiots.

If, in the largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce
Sodas, but not a 24-ounce soda because 24-ounces
Of a sugary drink might make you fat … You
Might live in a country founded by geniuses but
Run by idiots.

If an 80-year-old woman can be strip-searched by
The TSA but a woman in a hijab is only subject
To having her neck and head searched … You
Might live in a country founded by geniuses but
Run by idiots.

If your government believes that the best way to
Eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to
Spend trillions more …you might
Live in a country founded by geniuses but run by
Idiots.

If a seven year old boy can be thrown out of school
For saying his teacher’s “cute,” but hosting a sexual
Exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly
Acceptable … You might live in a country founded by
Geniuses but run by idiots.

If children are forcibly removed from parents who
Discipline them with spankings while children of
Addicts are left in filth and drug infested
“homes”… You might live in a country founded
By geniuses but run by idiots.

If hard work and success are met with higher taxes
And more government intrusion, while not working
Is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks,
Medicaid, subsidized housing and free cell phones …
You might live in a country founded by geniuses
But run by idiots.

If the government’s plan for
Getting people back to work is to incentivize
NOT working with 99 weeks of unemployment checks
And no requirement to prove they applied but
can’t find work … You might live in a country
Founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If being stripped of the ability to defend yourself
Makes you more “safe” according to the
Government … You might live in a country
Founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

Amjean on July 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

So, per Karl Rove the money is already spent and if we stand out graound the Democrats will say bad things about U.S. and try to spend more money, tax more and act like they give a shit about any thing other than power and money.

May as well throw in the towel and lay down like cur dogs uh.

Let the borders stay open too.

Let the commie Democrats spend U.S. broke like Detroit.

Let the commie Democrtats rule U.S. via the EPA and Obamas executive orders.

Where ? just where will Rove and these go along get along types draw the line…?

When , Where, other than to late as he had his chance and he himself and Bush, spent more, taxed more.

Twilde dumb, twilde “d”.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 26, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Sen. Burr: Block a continuing resolution without ObamaCare defunding? That’s the “dumbest idea I’ve ever heard”

Dumber than ObamaCare itself?

Bitter Clinger on July 26, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Let it fail by forcing Obama to fully honor his own law. Don’t defund. Either repeal with no replacement or nothing. All the way or none of the way. Let the Democrats have the disaster they set afoot. A disaster that you tinker with is still a disaster.

At this point if the Republican party simply gets a name change to the affordable care act pushed through, they will be given the blame for the disaster.

oldroy on July 26, 2013 at 10:08 AM

It is a conundrum. If I had faith that this effort by Senate Republicans to defund Obamacare could succeed, I’d say go for it. But I think we all know in the end most of them will blink.

And that aside, it could be far more politically advantageous to let Obamacare be implemented as planned in 2014 and then watch the Dems run away from their own legislation as the midterms approach. Of course the problem there(aside from the fact that it would mean pain and suffering for the American people) is that Obama seems content to enforce only the parts of the law he so chooses, regardless of the constitutionality of such an act.

Doughboy on July 26, 2013 at 10:16 AM

“ObamaCare in all its freedom and economy destroying glory is a done deal. The reality is that was the case back in November when Mitt “ELECTABILITY” Romney got his a*s kicked by a President sitting on one of the worst economies in history.

There’s simply nothing the GOP can do about it now. And if you think they are going to win in 2016 by promising to repeal one of the largest entitlement programs in history, you’re crazy. And if you think they’d actually do it if they win, you’re even crazier.

Nope, from now on the GOP mantra, led by the Chris Christies (who I predict with be the GOP nominee in 2016) of the world will be “fix” ObamaCare. You know like how we’ve spent decades “fixing” Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The GOP isn’t the party of smaller government and more freedom it’s the party of big government just run a little differently.”

From DrewM at Ace of Spades.

rrpjr on July 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Contact Senator Burr

Asheville
Federal Building
151 Patton Avenue, Suite 204
Asheville, NC 28801
Phone: (828) 350-2437
Fax: (828) 350-2439

Rocky Mount
100 Coast Line Street, Room 210
Rocky Mount, NC 27804
Phone: (252) 977-9522
Fax: (252) 977-7902

Washington, DC
217 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: (202) 224-3154
Fax: (202) 228-2981

Winston-Salem
2000 West First Street
Suite 508
Winston-Salem, NC 27104
Phone: (800) 685-8916
Phone: (336) 631-5125
Fax: (336) 725-4493

Gastonia
City Hall
181 South Street, Room 222
Gastonia, NC 28052
Phone: (704) 833-0854
Fax: (704) 833-1467

Wilmington
201 North Front Street
Suite 809
Wilmington, NC 28401
Phone: (888) 848-1833
Phone: (910) 251-1058
Fax: (910) 251-7975

beatcanvas on July 26, 2013 at 10:18 AM

What if the democrats agree to repeal and replace and demand that republicans come up with the bipartisan replacement. What then? We will own it.

meci on July 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

But that’s just the discretionary part of Obamacare. The far bigger portions of the program, including the billions and billions of dollars in subsidies that will start going to Americans on Jan. 1, are mandatory spending, an entitlement funded by an automatic appropriation which is written into law and runs without further congressional action. To change that, Congress would have to change Obamacare.

BS, big BS, no spending is mandatory and past Congresses cannot bind future Congresses to anything. Once again the gullible idiotic conservative public is being played for fools.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

“Listen, as long as Barack Obama is president”

Then maybe that needs to change.

Bishop on July 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Mr. Burr’s office is quite rude when contacted aren’t they? Wow! That was fun.

DanMan on July 26, 2013 at 10:24 AM

The law was written as mandatory entitlement spending like Social Security, this is why Mrs. Bachman could not get it to budge. She could not unfund the mechanisms which pay for Social security, and she did not want to, because in the duel between CR’s and budgets, Mrs. Bachman believed that the treasury must fund Social Security first and not tell Americans that they did not have any cash. The mandatory expenses prioritize government spending. The libs were having some exception to that but if she won on that point, she lost on unfunding Obama care that way.

The law has to be repealed to unfund it. Paul Ryan could not write it out of the budget as Budget Head.

I guess it could be time to call HHS to the Congress and ask her what she is doing wrong not to get her work done on time and on budget. Those funds, some of them might be discretionary.

So, hold up the implementation funds that are discretionary…and make some point, or start cancelling expensive parts of Obama Care, piecemeal. I know that conflicts with repealing the law, and republicans want to run in 2014 on repealing the law. So, let everyone suffer and see what happens?

Fleuries on July 26, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Get ready for the inevitable Congressional drama that’s on the way.

Erika Johnsen

.
.
Way ahead of you, Erika.

listens2glenn on July 26, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Burr is just speaking the truth; shutting down the govt will only earn you ire from voters in 2014. win the Senate and Obama will be a lame duck for his last 2 years

burserker on July 26, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Mr. Burr’s office is quite rude when contacted aren’t they? Wow! That was fun.

DanMan on July 26, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Let him have it. Call all his numbers.

beatcanvas on July 26, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Because not stopping Medicare/Social Security/welfare in general in its infancy worked out so <expletive deleted> well….

As soon as the first subsidy goes out, PlaceboCare will be as untouchable as the rest of the welfare programs.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 10:32 AM

If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing
Without a license, but not for being in the
Country illegally …you might live in a country
Founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If you have to get your parents’ permission to go
On a field trip or take an aspirin in school,
But not to get an abortion … You might live in
A country founded by geniuses but run by
Idiots.

If the only school curriculum
Allowed to explain how we got here is evolution,
But the government stops a $15 million
Construction project to keep a rare spider from
Evolving to extinction .. You might live in a
Country founded by geniuses but run by
Idiots.

If you have to show identification to board an
Airplane, cash a check, buy liquor or check out
A library book, but not to vote who runs the
Government … You might live in a country
Founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If the government wants to ban stable, law-abiding
Citizens from owning gun magazines with more
Than ten rounds, but gives 20 F-16 fighter jets
To the crazy new leaders in Egypt … You might
Live in a country founded by geniuses but run by
Idiots.

If, in the largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce
Sodas, but not a 24-ounce soda because 24-ounces
Of a sugary drink might make you fat … You
Might live in a country founded by geniuses but
Run by idiots.

If an 80-year-old woman can be strip-searched by
The TSA but a woman in a hijab is only subject
To having her neck and head searched … You
Might live in a country founded by geniuses but
Run by idiots.

If your government believes that the best way to
Eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to
Spend trillions more …you might
Live in a country founded by geniuses but run by
Idiots.

If a seven year old boy can be thrown out of school
For saying his teacher’s “cute,” but hosting a sexual
Exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly
Acceptable … You might live in a country founded by
Geniuses but run by idiots.

If children are forcibly removed from parents who
Discipline them with spankings while children of
Addicts are left in filth and drug infested
“homes”… You might live in a country founded
By geniuses but run by idiots.

If hard work and success are met with higher taxes
And more government intrusion, while not working
Is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks,
Medicaid, subsidized housing and free cell phones …
You might live in a country founded by geniuses
But run by idiots.

If the government’s plan for
Getting people back to work is to incentivize
NOT working with 99 weeks of unemployment checks
And no requirement to prove they applied but
can’t find work … You might live in a country
Founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If being stripped of the ability to defend yourself
Makes you more “safe” according to the
Government … You might live in a country
Founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

Amjean on July 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Excellent but I prefer the Readers Digest version:

I you see all these things happening then you might live in a country whose leaders of both political parties are intentionally and purposefully working to turn said country into a tyrannical state.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:32 AM

*clears throat*

Let. It. Burn.

BigGator5 on July 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Burr is just speaking the truth; shutting down the govt will only earn you ire from voters in 2014. win the Senate and Obama will be a lame duck for his last 2 years

burserker on July 26, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Bravo Foxtrot Sierra. Caving now just guarantees that, in the very unlikely event Mini-Cave McConnell is majority “leader”, it will be Congress that’s the “lame duck”.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Well I am one North Carolinian who work to primary the Burr bastard.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM

meci on July 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Wealready own it. All of us.

Bmore on July 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Space

Bmore on July 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Hatch, criticism? You wimps in the GOP have let this nation slip into the hands of those that openly seek to undermine it by any means necessary as they have shown the entire world. Constitutions, laws and the people’s elected legislators are just bumps in their road to socialism–or far worse.
With all this, you stand there and dare to worry about your precious little hide being criticized?
What ever happened to men of courage and character, or are you all cowering under the left’s lying word assaults?

Don L on July 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

…a country whose leaders of both political parties are intentionally and purposefully working to turn said country into a tyrannical state.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:32 AM

The government we allow is the government we get.

Bat Chain Puller on July 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Burr is just speaking the truth; shutting down the govt will only earn you ire from voters in 2014. win the Senate and Obama will be a lame duck for his last 2 years

burserker on July 26, 2013 at 10:30 AM

LOL, really? I can think of at least half a dozen or more RINO’s who will make sure that doesn’t happen.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Isn’t a “mandatory appropriation,” by definition, a violation of Congress’ power to appropriate and cannot bind future Congressional action?

HopeHeFails on July 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

The government we allow is the government we get.

Bat Chain Puller on July 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Exactly.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Space

Bmore on July 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM

The final frontier…

Bishop on July 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM

BS, big BS, no spending is mandatory and past Congresses cannot bind future Congresses to anything. Once again the gullible idiotic conservative public is being played for fools.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Then explain how:

- Food stamps are on a 5-year spending plan.
- SocSecurity and the Hospital Insurance part of Medicare are fully paid out and expanded by a formula so far as the payroll tax and IOUs are sufficient to cover the expenses.
- The other two parts of Medicare (Supplemental Medical and drug insurance) are able to, without any action on the part of Congress, increase its fees collected to cover any increased costs they experience (said increases are also not voted on by Congress).

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Hatch, criticism? You wimps in the GOP have let this nation slip into the hands of those that openly seek to undermine it by any means necessary as they have shown the entire world. Constitutions, laws and the people’s elected legislators are just bumps in their road to socialism–or far worse.
With all this, you stand there and dare to worry about your precious little hide being criticized?
What ever happened to men of courage and character, or are you all cowering under the left’s lying word assaults?

Don L on July 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

I understand your frustration but I’m not sure you and many others get what really is happening. Many in the GOP are part and parcel to what the dems are doing. They are all in on it. They are playing good cop, bad cop on a national scale. It is we the public who are the fools for letting them get away with it.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Contact Senator Burr

Asheville
Federal Building
151 Patton Avenue, Suite 204
Asheville, NC 28801
Phone: (828) 350-2437
Fax: (828) 350-2439

Rocky Mount
100 Coast Line Street, Room 210
Rocky Mount, NC 27804
Phone: (252) 977-9522
Fax: (252) 977-7902

Washington, DC
217 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: (202) 224-3154
Fax: (202) 228-2981

Winston-Salem
2000 West First Street
Suite 508
Winston-Salem, NC 27104
Phone: (800) 685-8916
Phone: (336) 631-5125
Fax: (336) 725-4493

Gastonia
City Hall
181 South Street, Room 222
Gastonia, NC 28052
Phone: (704) 833-0854
Fax: (704) 833-1467

Wilmington
201 North Front Street
Suite 809
Wilmington, NC 28401
Phone: (888) 848-1833
Phone: (910) 251-1058
Fax: (910) 251-7975

beatcanvas on July 26, 2013 at 10:18 AM

That’s worth repeating.

Why are we sending these people to Washington?

Galt2009 on July 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Why advertise this? Congress passes so many bills that they never read that you just quietly slip the provision dissolving ObamaCare in a highway bill. Problem solved.

JSchuler on July 26, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Naw, those leftist unions read and write those. Try slipping it in a “free condoms for kindergarteners” bill and they’ll pass it quicker than they pass an open Church.

Don L on July 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Then explain how:

- Food stamps are on a 5-year spending plan.
– SocSecurity and the Hospital Insurance part of Medicare are fully paid out and expanded by a formula so far as the payroll tax and IOUs are sufficient to cover the expenses.
– The other two parts of Medicare (Supplemental Medical and drug insurance) are able to, without any action on the part of Congress, increase its fees collected to cover any increased costs they experience (said increases are also not voted on by Congress).

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

And that is all unconstitutional. but since when have our leaders let that little piece of paper get in their way?

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Hatch, criticism? You wimps in the GOP have let this nation slip into the hands of those that openly seek to undermine it by any means necessary as they have shown the entire world. Constitutions, laws and the people’s elected legislators are just bumps in their road to socialism–or far worse.
With all this, you stand there and dare to worry about your precious little hide being criticized?
What ever happened to men of courage and character, or are you all cowering under the left’s lying word assaults?

Don L on July 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Unless by “or far worse” you mean “East Asian Communism as practiced by the Krazy Kims”, you misspelled “Communism”.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

And that is all unconstitutional. but since when have our leaders let that little piece of paper get in their way?

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Not since FDR cowed the Supreme Court in 1937.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Hatch, criticism? You wimps in the GOP have let this nation slip into the hands of those that openly seek to undermine it by any means necessary as they have shown the entire world. Constitutions, laws and the people’s elected legislators are just bumps in their road to socialism–or far worse.
With all this, you stand there and dare to worry about your precious little hide being criticized?
What ever happened to men of courage and character, or are you all cowering under the left’s lying word assaults?
Don L on July 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

I understand your frustration but I’m not sure you and many others get what really is happening. Many in the GOP are part and parcel to what the dems are doing. They are all in on it. They are playing good cop, bad cop on a national scale. It is we the public who are the fools for letting them get away with it.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Oh I understand it alright. In fact, I think I was one of the first to coin the good cop bad cop metaphor regarding these sleazes characters masquerading as leaders.
They need heat, lots of it and they need to know we’re onto their games of letting RINOs do what Rove and the rest of the elites want to do anyway.

Don L on July 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM

That’s the “dumbest idea I’ve ever heard”

Haven’t tune in to their channel today, but I’m betting that MSNBC is running this quote in a continuous loop all day.

Way to go Burr. Libtard’s BFF.

fogw on July 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Not since FDR cowed the Supreme Court in 1937.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Just because 9 men in robes say something is constitutional doesn’t make it so.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM

That’s the “dumbest idea I’ve ever heard”

Well, we’ll see how dumb on November 5, 2014. Good luck, chump.

petefrt on July 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

“Listen, as long as Barack Obama is president the Affordable Care Act is gonna be law.” …

Why does he say this? It’s as if he’s telling us outright that the next election will never happen, that Obama plans a coup (though he may not call it that). OR that the next president will throw it out automatically? How else do you interpret this?

“As long as President {fill in the blank} is president, this will be the law…” So when the NEXT president comes it, all previous laws are null and void?

UnderstandingisPower on July 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Oh I understand it alright. In fact, I think I was one of the first to coin the good cop bad cop metaphor regarding these sleazes characters masquerading as leaders.
They need heat, lots of it and they need to know we’re onto their games of letting RINOs do what Rove and the rest of the elites want to do anyway.

Don L on July 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM

The problem is they don’t, and honestly can’t, fear us nearly as much as the far more numerous multitude that depend on $2 trillion in wealth-transfer payments from Hugh Gubmint every year.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

I am always ready for the next Republican leadership failure.

GaltBlvnAtty on July 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Just talked to Burr’s office…some snot nosed kid tried to cut me me off and inform me about burr being a co-sponsor of a bill to end Odummycare…so I re-payed the favor and told him to stfu and listen to what I had to say that I was not in the least interested in his explanations…that obviously his bill failed and his comments were much more stupid than the idea he was commenting on…what was surprising was the anger I felt and directed now that I had a hard target to direct it at…I don’t think the idiots in DC have any idea how we really feel and what will come out once we are pushed to the breaking point…

cp3984 on July 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Obama threatens defense veto if health care premiums for military not increased

Well Mr. Burr, Ojaggazz says he’s going to hold the line on screwing service members. Is that the second stupidest thing you ever heard?

Akzed on July 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM

We view the Obama Administration’s recent decision to delay ObamaCare’s employer mandate and eligibility verification for the individual exchanges as further proof the law is a failure that will inevitably hurt businesses, American families, and the economy.

In light of this admission,

You should view it as the impeachable act of a tyrant that it is. It isn’t an “admission”. It’s a friggin crime of immense proportions, you blithering idiot.

we believe the only way to avert disaster is to fully repeal ObamaCare

Duh! That’s what the GOP was given power over the purse strings in 2011 to do … but you idiots refused to even try – and I don’t want to hear any stupid cr@p about the House voting for repeal. Those were joke votes that were never pursued and never attached to anything important … like a CR. So, it took YEARS for the cowardly idiots in the GOP to finally start to get some guts and brains. Not much, but a little. I’d say “better late than never” but I doubt they’ll do anything, now, anyway. They’re turds.

and start over with a more sensible, practical approach to reforming our healthcare system.

No, you despicable dipsh!t. The feral government is not the entity charged with running the nation’s health care system. You have minimal powers over the interstate commerce of health insurance, but little to none over health care, which is NOT an interstate issue in any way, shape, or form.

My G-d, I can’t stand these idiots. They can’t just do the right thing. They have to couch it in the details of surrender. Morons.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Karl Rove opposes this tactic. That should be all the evidence we need to know that it’s the right thing to do.

Shump on July 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

If that sounds like I’m a fatalist on what’s left of this country’s future, yeah, I am.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Sometimes Burr comes off as a Kay Hagan Republican.

Having said that, I think Burr just spoke off the cuff without realizing how impolitic it would sound, although in line with the “practicalities” of being the minority party in the Senate.

BigAlSouth on July 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM

These are the types of political maneuvers that need to be taken by conservatives, which, in my opinion are more against the Republican Leadership than the Democrats. It also reveals who is really onboard and not just blowing smoke, i.e., Burr. It doesn’t matter if the MSM reports on this because this is a fight within the Party. The Republican Establishment, especially Karl Rove, are not going to go down peacefully. The timing is perfect as it relates to the midterm elections. It takes time to take over a political party.

lea on July 26, 2013 at 11:08 AM

No, you despicable dipsh!t. The feral government is not the entity charged with running the nation’s health care system. You have minimal powers over the interstate commerce of health insurance, but little to none over health care, which is NOT an interstate issue in any way, shape, or form.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM

And since the feral gubmint said, and will continue to say after December 31, 2013, that I can’t purchase health insurance from Health Insurance of Illinois, they have no Constitutional authority to say anything else about health insurance – no “you must buy or be taxed”, no “your premiums must cover Fluke’s gynecology bills”, no “if you can still afford a family plan, you must keep your child on it until she turns 27″.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Let. It. Burn.

Neo on July 26, 2013 at 11:13 AM

So sad seeing our country get flushed down the toilet by Obama. It used to have such promise, but now their is not much hope left.

I’m not proud of my country.

kirkill on July 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

cp3984 on July 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Great work. Embrace the anger.

rrpjr on July 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM

In case any of you are still unclear about the true nature of the establishment GOP, here’s a beauty:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/07/26/exclusive-rnc-operatives-join-holders-campaign-against-texas-several-other-states/

rrpjr on July 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM

I think it was Mark Levin I was listening to yesterday who stated the sad but truism that the Democrats march in lockstep when it comes to their own being under attack; but the Republicans start shooting their own.

Republicans: We shoot ourselves in the foot so Democrats don’t have to!

theotherone on July 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM

rrpjr on July 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM

The word is that is a “rogue” operation (or perhaps I should say “rouge”).

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 11:34 AM

However, if Democrats will not agree with Republicans that ObamaCare must be repealed, perhaps they can at least agree with the president that the law cannot be implemented as written. If the administration will not enforce the law as written, then the American people should not be forced to fund it.

From an earlier time:

President Obama delivered the final press conference of his first term today, focusing almost entirely on the debt ceiling fight and gun control. While declining to offer any new details on either front during the hour-long Q&A (that did not feature very many Qs), nor giving any hint as to what he might do should Congress fail to raise the debt ceiling, the president reiterated his earlier comments that responsibility lies with Congress to pay for the spending that it has already authorized.

I take that to mean that Congress can also unauthorize spending.

BobMbx on July 26, 2013 at 11:38 AM

First of all, the stupid party could have done this 3 years ago, but they don’t have any leadership. Secondly, someone needs to stand their ground and tell this president he just can’t change a law, on his own, without going through Congress. If the Democrats aren’t willing to stand up to him, then someone has to. This is serious business and all the Republicans have to do is figure out what their principles are on this and stand by them. Ask the press, does the COnstitution say the President will execute the laws or make and change the laws, because this President just doesn’t seem to have it figured out.

There’s just one more thing, Republicans need to stand together on this and that’s where the leadership comes in. Mike Lee is showing much more leadership than Mitch McConnell (which isn’t really a surprise) and I’d like to see him become the Majority Leader when the Republicans take over the Senate.

bflat879 on July 26, 2013 at 11:41 AM

And Karl Rove has been right so often lately.

ctmom on July 26, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Yeah, that Congressional Power of the Purse thingie is soooo over-rated -
probably because it gets used so rarely for the things it needs to be used for.

Another Drew on July 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Amjean on July 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

People, get this straight: some of us have better things to do than to read a near book-length post on blogs. Especially ones that are inane and repetitive.

HiJack on July 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

I suppose Burr and Cole, seemingly the largest defenders in the Republican Party of Obamacare, realize the growing opposition to the law both by individuals’ businesses, unions and anybody else affected.

Have they gone back to their districts and spoken with people? Are they that disconnected from the populace they now believe Obamacare is a…good idea?

Congress has the power of the purse. It is the only thing that will stop this all consuming, destructive behemoth. Yet they demur and ridicule those who take action?

They are either devout cowards or fools.

Marcus Traianus on July 26, 2013 at 12:19 PM

And McConnell is the biggest Republican defender of Obamacare. Look at his statements which are filled with dissembling and disclaimers.

McConnell also talked Cornyn into removing his name from the letter.

It’s time for McConnell to go. He’s not working for a majority of this country.

Marcus Traianus on July 26, 2013 at 12:21 PM

But that’s just the discretionary part of Obamacare. The far bigger portions of the program, including the billions and billions of dollars in subsidies that will start going to Americans on Jan. 1, are mandatory spending, an entitlement funded by an automatic appropriation which is written into law and runs without further congressional action. To change that, Congress would have to change Obamacare.

I support having a filibuster to make new laws harder to pass and I do think the president should have to appoint people whom he get some people from the opposition party to support. But I have a huge problem with the notion that one Congress can force future Congress to spend money. This needs to be stopped. Every penny spent during a Congress should have to be approved by that Congress. (You may have to give each Congress pay to authorize spending for six months after it is put out, so that each Congress has time to make sensible decisions.)

thuja on July 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Amjean on July 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

People, get this straight: some of us have better things to do than to read a near book-length post on blogs. Especially ones that are inane and repetitive.

HiJack on July 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Then just skip over it, and go on to the next comment. The rest of us who did enjoy it will read it.

theotherone on July 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Shut it all down.

exceller on July 26, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Amjean on July 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

People, get this straight: some of us have better things to do than to read a near book-length post on blogs. Especially ones that are inane and repetitive.

HiJack on July 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Then just skip over it, and go on to the next comment. The rest of us who did enjoy it will read it.

theotherone on July 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM

That’s fine, but it took me five minutes to scroll past it…

HiJack on July 26, 2013 at 12:43 PM

In case any of you are still unclear about the true nature of the establishment GOP, here’s a beauty:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/07/26/exclusive-rnc-operatives-join-holders-campaign-against-texas-several-other-states/

rrpjr on July 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Amazing! As Anti-Conservative/Tea Party they are, I can’t say I would doubt this.

The only thing Cornyn is “outraged” about is God willing, he’ll lose his seat in 2014!

Cornyn also removed his name from Mike Lee’s letter yesterday, along with Kirk.

bluefox on July 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

There’s way too complicatin’ going on here, as long-gone Senator Hollings might have said.

Americans will continue to suffer until we remove career politicians from office and replace them with citizens who will limit government rather than inexorably expanding it.

The government that best serves the people is the government that is closest to the people, meaning local and state governments. Gigantic one-size-fits-all federal programs are our downfall.

Meremortal on July 26, 2013 at 12:47 PM

As I keep saying, this is merely a negotiation tactic. The goal is to force Obama to delay implementation of Obamacare, or at least the individual mandate.

The odds of even that are slim, but better if people like Burr keep their big fat mouths shut.

Chris of Rights on July 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Continuing resolutions? What happened to the days when budgets had to be written and passed by both chambers of Congress and hashed out in committee conference? If the Democrats refuse to put out a budget, then let that be the basis for shutting down the government. They can say the Democrats broke the law and they have to live with the consequences.

djaymick on July 26, 2013 at 1:12 PM

“I don’t think crossing the Delaware will be effective.”

AshleyTKing on July 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) slammed a proposal to block a continuing resolution on federal funding unless ObamaCare is defunded.

…Lindsey Graham has a sister?

KOOLAID2 on July 26, 2013 at 2:33 PM

…Lindsey Graham has a sister?

KOOLAID2 on July 26, 2013 at 2:33 PM

LOL, Mr. Kool. McCain is going to get jealous!

bluefox on July 26, 2013 at 2:38 PM

First that I’ve heard of this, so just posting it for info.
Cornyn getting a challenger.

spoasteph97•a day ago−
Time to primary him in 2014: Dwayne Stovall is primarying him in 2014…support his campaign: http://www.texansforstovall.co

http://www.redstate.com/2013/07/25/texas-senator-john-cornyn-johncornyn-no-longer-supports-defunding-obamacare-call-him-at-202-224-2934-to-ask-why/

bluefox on July 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Redstate has been on top of Mike Lee’s Efforts and Ted Cruz. The first I noticed was on 7/24/13. Whether anything previous to that was written, I don’t know. RS is continuing with several articles and updating.

If anyone has info prior to 7/24/13, please post the links.

http://www.redstate.com/2013/07/24/will-senate-republicans-surrender-the-fight/

Keep in mind these lists have changed since some under pressure from McConnell and others have removed their names. For example, just today , RS have several articles up. Some dated 7/26 & some dated 7/25.

We need an Open Thread dedicated to only Obamacare and the efforts to defund it! So much info and where to put it?

bluefox on July 26, 2013 at 3:02 PM

I called his office this afternoon since I am an employer in the state. The minion who answered immediately got snippy. Unbelievable! This guy Is silent to the point of bing mute, but blows up over this??? He does the work for the dems on this one. Even if he disagrees with the tactic politically, why take the time to come out of hiding to deliver a tongue lashing upon the good guys. When has Burr ever taken equal shots at some of Schumer’s or Reid’s garbage? Never. I politely and forcefully told the staffer to ask the senator to shut his mouth.

kpguru on July 26, 2013 at 6:15 PM

kpguru on July 26, 2013 at 6:15 PM

The fact that the person got snippy immediately, tells you that they have had a ton of protests, which I’m glad to hear. More and more we are finding out who the good guys actually are. Looks like we have a lot of impersonators!

It really gets difficult when we have both parties, the Administration and the Media against us.

If you get a chance to listen to the replay of Mark Levin at 9PM EDT, it’s worth it. He goes back to how Rove & the Bushies and others did their best to defeat Reagan; and the media too. Then brings it up to date on what is actually going on now. He said Jeb Bush is in every State getting ready for the run. He takes a hit on Rove also how he’s promoting that and talking against all of the Conservatives. Why Fox gave him a platform to spew his lies, I don’t know. I was hoping that Palin would be there to counter that, but doesn’t seem to be. I wasn’t supportive of her going back to Fox, since it ties her up.

bluefox on July 26, 2013 at 7:26 PM

“Defunding the Affordable Care Act is not achievable through shutting down the federal government.

Wanna bet, genius? I’ll give you 100 to 1.

CapnObvious on July 26, 2013 at 7:58 PM

rrpjr on July 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Here is a reply to the pjmedia article you linked to.

UPDATE: RNC DENIES — RNC also trying to undo SCOTUS decision and return Texas to VRA federal oversight

http://therightscoop.com/pj-tatler-bombshell-rnc-also-trying-to-undo-scotus-decision-and-return-texas-to-vra-federal-oversight/

bluefox on July 26, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Amjean on July 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

People, get this straight: some of us have better things to do than to read a near book-length post on blogs. Especially ones that are inane and repetitive.

HiJack on July 26, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Then just skip over it, and go on to the next comment. The rest of us who did enjoy it will read it.

theotherone on July 26, 2013 at 12:28 PM

That’s fine, but it took me five minutes to scroll past it…

HiJack on July 26, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Wow – it only took me 1 minute 17 seconds to read it — out loud.
You may have a computer constructed by geniuses but run by an idiot.

(Nice eponymous handle ya got there.)

Excellent but I prefer the Readers Digest version:

I you see all these things happening then you might live in a country whose leaders of both political parties are intentionally and purposefully working to turn said country into a tyrannical state.

bgibbs1000 on July 26, 2013 at 10:32 AM

You might We do live in a country
Founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

Amjean on July 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

AesopFan on July 27, 2013 at 12:01 AM

ObamacareTax (remember, it is a Tax) is like a cancerous tumor added to the body politic by the progressive pimps.

The only way to stop its growth is to starve it.

In the medical model, a drug prevents the tumor from sending out new blood vessels as a basic method of reining in the metastasis.

Defunding the tumor of ObamacareTax would be equally as effective and beneficial to the health of our nation.

Since this ill-conceived Tax will hurt the job market, will cost the majority of Americans more money for their insurance and medical procedures, won’t cover everyone (as promised) and will over-burden the medical system.

Those who do not try everything to stop this monstrosity are useless.

And need to be primaried out of power.

profitsbeard on July 27, 2013 at 2:30 AM