Meanwhile in Egypt, Morsi accused of murder as violence continues

posted at 2:01 pm on July 26, 2013 by Bruce McQuain

Egypt is a mess.  The so-called “Arab Spring” has withered.  And anyone other than the Obama administration would call what has happened a “coup”.  Whether or not you agree with what happened to the elected president of Egypt, by definition he was indeed displaced by a coup.  Reality is indifferent to semantic nuance.  It is what it is.

That said, Egypt, now ruled by the military, remains in turmoil.  The ousted president has now been accused of murder and kidnapping among other serious charges. And at the moment both sides are gearing up for massive demonstrations and most people are expecting those to lead to violence and turmoil:

Thousands of pro-army demonstrators gathered on Friday morning in Tahrir Square, centre of two years of turmoil in Egypt, before the main rally, which was unlikely to peak until after the evening prayer marking the end of the day’s Ramadan fast.

“The Brothers stole our revolution,” said Salah Saleh, a horse trainer, voicing widespread criticism that Mursi and his allies refused to share out power when they took office, and then failed to tackle Egypt’s many economic and social woes.

“They came and sat on the throne and controlled everything.”

The Muslim Brotherhood is also planning and conducting demonstrations:

Many thousands of men, women and children joined Brotherhood supporters at their round-the-clock vigil in northeast Cairo.

“Our blood and our souls for Islam!” the crowds chanted, showing no sign of backing down in their stand-off, which has polarised the Arab world’s biggest state, long seen as crucial to the stability of the whole Middle East.

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“It is either victory over the coup or martyrdom,” said senior Brotherhood politician Mohamed El-Beltagy, addressing the main pro-Mursi rally in the Egyptian capital.

So we have two very polarized and violence prone groups facing off at each other.  The military is in charge and talking about “turning its guns” on those who are violent while the Muslim Brotherhood is claiming Egypt is heading toward civil war.

“I’m staying home all day, it’s too dangerous to work. I didn’t think things in Egypt could get this bad, but every day you hear about clashes and deaths,” said Shadi Mohamed, a 22-year-old taxi driver. “Egypt is a disaster.”

The administration’s reaction?

Signalling its displeasure at recent events, Washington said this week it had delayed delivery of four F-16 fighter jets to Cairo and called on the Egyptian army to exercise “maximum restraint and caution” during Friday’s rallies.

Deputy Secretary of State William Burns, however, said on Thursday the Obama administration did not intend to rule on whether Mursi’s overthrow constituted a coup, wording that would have triggered a cut-off of U.S. aid.

Wow, I’ll bet that stung.  When you know that the US administration is moving heaven and earth to pretend that what you did isn’t what you did so they can keep giving you airplanes, how seriously do you take the delay of 4?

Not very.

And there’s a new game that has begun among those who monitor foreign affairs.  It was much like the game that those who watched the US Senate used to play.  It’s called, “Where in the world is John Kerry?”

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0′s Egypt.

Bmore on July 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Obama and Morsi – Brothers From Another Mother

VorDaj on July 26, 2013 at 2:06 PM

He’s only POTUS, but he’s also able to screw up half the world, not just us. What power!

Akzed on July 26, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Witness “the fundamental transformation of Egypt.”

Akzed on July 26, 2013 at 2:08 PM

“They came and sat on the throne and controlled everything.”

Why does this sound so familiar?

VorDaj on July 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM

…so when will JugEars go in front of the politburo press…to make a statement?…tell a story?…show support?………

KOOLAID2 on July 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM

If Obama had a country, it would look like Eqypt.

VorDaj on July 26, 2013 at 2:10 PM

“We came. We saw. [Egypt] died.” *cackles*

~Hillaryous

Christien on July 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

…so when will JugEars go in front of the politburo press…to make a statement?…tell a story?…show support?………

KOOLAID2 on July 26, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Just as soon as he and his Brother Morsi can get their stories in sync.

VorDaj on July 26, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Obama now further consulting with Muslim Brotherhood Operative Huma/Weiner on what to do next.

VorDaj on July 26, 2013 at 2:13 PM

He’s just like the Chicago thugs.

Also, see Holder.

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 2:15 PM

obama enabled and furthered his muzzie brotherhood.

obama and the brotherhood are very successful.

Wake up world.

Wake up America.

On second thought, don’t – go shopping and eating…and be entertained. They’ll chop off your heads. It’ll be less painful if you’re doped.

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Name on nation, not the one of Islam, which is free/freer, due to obama, I triple dare you!

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Looks like Kerry is following in Hillary’s footsteps. “When we want your opinion, Valerie will tell you what it is!!”

Deano1952 on July 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Name on nation, not the one of Islam, which is free/freer, due to obama, I triple dare you!

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM

The Destroyer is his name
And Freedom ain’t his game

VorDaj on July 26, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Team SCOAMT isn’t calling it a coup because they’re hoping (hopefully against hope) that an even-more-radical Islamist regime will be next to take the reins of power and order the military to march east-northeast.

With that said, sometimes a coup is necessary.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Meanwhile, welcome to Zimbabwe

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 2:25 PM

“extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.”-Nobel Prize Committee

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Military coups 2 (Honduras, Egypt), Obama/Hillary 0.

Christien on July 26, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Tee hee! Chuckle!

/Culture Vulture

Christien on July 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM

If Obama had a country, it would look like Eqypt.

VorDaj on July 26, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Here I thought it would look like North Korea.

Wait – give him 2 more years and we will look like NK.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Detroit…

(by the way, what’s with all the new writers?)

Seven Percent Solution on July 26, 2013 at 2:51 PM

obama does this to the USA.

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Detroit…

(by the way, what’s with all the new writers?)

Seven Percent Solution on July 26, 2013 at 2:51 PM

You misspelled Detriot.

The new writers are Ed’s fill-ins while he’s cruising Alaska’s Inside Passage.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Brought to you in part by a grant from the Ford Foundation Clinton State Department, and viewers like you…

JohnGalt23 on July 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM

The new writers are Ed’s fill-ins while he’s cruising Alaska’s Inside Passage.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Nice.

Happy sailing, Cap’n…

JohnGalt23 on July 26, 2013 at 2:58 PM

And there’s a new game that has begun among those who monitor foreign affairs. It was much like the game that those who watched the US Senate used to play. It’s called, “Where in the world is John Kerry?”

Who cares? No my friend, this calls only for our best and brightest. Our finest peacemaker. The guy who can light up the world with his smile. The guy who can take a nothing day and suddenly make it worthwhile. I speak of course about the rat-eared wonder himself.

What with both pro-military and pro-Morsi supporters gathered in one place, Obama really needs to go to Tahir Square and give another super-awesome speech. It would undoubtedly bring the conflict to an end.

Happy Nomad on July 26, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Bmore, pls. photoshop this, with obama being wiener and the bldg. being Lady Liberty.

No, he would never literally fluke Lady Liberty…he’s in the other camp. But he does otherwise.

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 3:01 PM

OT: Bob Filner takes responsibilty for his actions, apologizes to supporters, announces going into two weeks behavior rehab (whatever that is), NOT repeat NOT stepping down.

Happy Nomad on July 26, 2013 at 3:17 PM

He’s only POTUS, but he’s also able to screw up half the world, not just us. What power!

Akzed on July 26, 2013 at 2:07 PM

He has no ability to actually create anything, but amazing destructive capabilities.

dogsoldier on July 26, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Resist We Much on July 26, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Nice write up. Last line made me laugh. Couldn’t help it.

dogsoldier on July 26, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Bmore, photoshop this, with obama doing Lady Liberty…

Comments are appearing/disappearing. Fluke you, all who monitor, into oblivion.

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Resist’s comment was here, now it’s gone.

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Name one nation, not the one of Islam, which is free/freer, due to obama, I triple dare you!

Schadenfreude on July 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Relative to this nation…all of them.

Ronnie on July 26, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Wait – give him 2 more years and we will look like UK.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM

FIFY.

Christien on July 26, 2013 at 3:37 PM

OT

EXCLUSIVE: RNC Operatives Join Holder’s Campaign Against Texas, Several Other States

Sources say RNC donations are being used to re-impose federal mandates struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court.

So sending money to the RNC really is the same as giving it to Obama.

sharrukin on July 26, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Has the Right gone insane? Is the Right so overwhelmed with the desire to oppose Obama that it has lost sight of its principles?

The proper conservative position on the coup/not coup is to back it, if not openly, then tacitly, precisely as the Obama administration is doing now. This reluctant embrace of Kissingerian Realism is the first thing they’ve done right in the foreign policy field since Obama took office.

Jail Morsi? They ought to execute him. Round up all the Brotherhood leaders and throw them into prison. Any trouble in the street, open fire. Make their party illegal and refuse to allow them to participate in elections, period. Once things quiet down, draft a new constitution and hold elections in a manner that ensures stability.

Kissingerian realism, also known as realpolitik, which looks at foreign policy in terms of national interest and power, is the only true conservative foreign policy approach. All other approaches, including neoconservatism and libertarian isolationism, are liberal to the core. They are based on utopian desire, not real world fact.

Obama initially supported the various Arab Springs because he agreed with the terrorists – they came over here because we were over there, and when not literally over their, backed repressive dictatorial regimes that served us. That’s also pretty much the libertarian position that Chris Christie has been criticizing. He’s getting hammered for this on the Right because…he’s Chris Christie.

The United States cannot afford to let Egypt become a failed state because Obama is an a-hole. Not calling the coup a coup and continuing to send money to the Egyptian military is the right thing to do. Thank God this administration got it right this once. The question is, have they learned their lesson?

Syria tells me no.

Mr. Arkadin on July 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Obama to Sisi: Let my people go!

Christien on July 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM

O/T

Yes, the site is having problems today. No, it is not your imagination.

Christien on July 26, 2013 at 3:47 PM

“Aid” does not necessarily equal airplanes.

paul1149 on July 26, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Wait – give him 2 more years and we will look like UK.

Steve Eggleston on July 26, 2013 at 2:46 PM

FIFY.

Christien on July 26, 2013 at 3:37 PM

HA! The US will be lucky to only look like the UK in 2 years, but make no mistake about it, he’ll be calling all of us ‘swivel-eyed loons’ even if the country looks like North Korea or Zimbabwe…or Detroit, for that matter.

Resist We Much on July 26, 2013 at 4:11 PM

What is going on with the comments?

sharrukin on July 26, 2013 at 4:14 PM

.

sharrukin on July 26, 2013 at 4:24 PM

What is going on with the comments?

sharrukin on July 26, 2013 at 4:14 PM

We should ask the NSA because, clearly, the HA IT team figured out that Ed is on a working vacation.

Happy Nomad on July 26, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Flashback: The Missing Link? Libyan Intelligence Connects Pharaoh Morsi To Benghazi

Resist We Much on July 26, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Snowden strikes again!! Interesting.

Your comments are awesome too:-)

bluefox on July 26, 2013 at 7:43 PM

What is going on with the comments?

sharrukin on July 26, 2013 at 4:14 PM

I don’t know but I’ve noticed slow loading. Also many more auto-ads. Breitbart has them too now. I just disable Flash unless I really want to watch a video.

bluefox on July 26, 2013 at 7:45 PM

I disagree with the writer of this thread. 30,000,000 people in the streets protesting doesn’t make a Military coup. The Military supported the people and stopped a Civil War.

bluefox on July 26, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Your right Bruce.

So was Zelaya.

I guess it depends on if you believe in a “living breathing” constitution, or a mere set of codified rules to the game.

WryTrvllr on July 27, 2013 at 1:28 AM