House GOP: We’ll legalize “DREAMers” if border gets secured first

posted at 9:21 am on July 25, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

House Republicans have steered clear of the Senate’s comprehensive immigration reform bill and its approach, pledging to proceed in steps to overhauling the nation’s immigration system instead.  Democrats have been using that strategy as a way to paint the GOP as callous and unconcerned (at the least) about immigrants, especially their children.  National Journal reports that Eric Cantor will try to turn the tables on that argument, daring Democrats to support border security in exchange for legalization of minors:

An emerging coalition of House Republicans is arguing that young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children constitute “a special protected class” that should eventually be eligible for citizenship, an approach they say combines sound policy with smart politics. …

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., is the driving force behind the strategy to focus on legalizing undocumented youths. According to Republican aides, passing such a bill would equip Republicans with a reasonable answer to the question of what to do with the 11 million people living in the U.S. illegally. It would also force Democrats into a political lose-lose: Either endorse a GOP proposal that legalizes so-called “Dreamers” or oppose this longtime policy goal and hold out for blanket legalization for the entire undocumented community.

As one House leadership aide framed it, “How can they say no to the kids?”

Cantor’s push, which has the blessing of Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, is also endorsed by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and several influential conservatives such as Reps. Raul Labrador of Idaho and Jim Jordan of Ohio. It’s still early—Cantor and company have yet to release any legislative language—but lawmakers predict that such a measure will garner majority support in the oft-fractured House Republican Conference.

That would turn the calculus back onto the Democrats.  Polls show that Americans back a path to citizenship anyway, but have much more sympathy for children whose only crime was that their parents carried them into the country.  Polls have definitely shown that Americans want border security addressed as the priority in reform, even if they prefer a comprehensive approach rather than piecemeal.  Such an offer would combine the most popular parts of the plans floating around Washington for most of the last decade, and force the Democrats instead of the Republicans to decide between children and their political hobby horses.

That is, it will — if Cantor and Boehner can get enough Republican votes to force Democrats to choose.  So far, the strategy seems to be gaining ground, at least since this weekend.  Trey Gowdy, who would normally be considered a tough vote, pointed out at a hearing this week that our law treats children as a different class in other ways, too — and that minors brought by parents “have not committed a crime,” a key position for those opposed to any form of amnesty for border violators.  Ted Poe (R-TX) emphasized that children did not have the determination to act illegally, and “therefore, they should be treated in a special way.”

This all hinges on the border-security package developed by the House, of course.  The Corker-Hoeven amendment turned out to be Swiss cheese in practice, and the White House made the issue all but moot by declaring that it could ignore statutes in ObamaCare that specifically had to do with mandates and triggers.  Unless the House comes up with a tougher border security package and a way to ensure that the Obama administration has no choice but to fund it — perhaps by holding up the DREAMer funding until specific metrics are met, especially on a border fence — then this is probably all academic anyway.  But at least Republicans may force Democrats to “say no to the kids,” and get rid of that noxious talking point for a while.


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Children reared up in families that have no respect for the law of the country they’re in, no understanding or respect of the culture of the country,nor the history of that country, they are in, no desire to assimilate in the country they are in, will surprisingly grow up to vote & live their lives ideologically different than what is best for the country they are in.
Illegal aliens who come here most often have no idea why America is a Republic.
They have no idea of the history of why it became one, nor do they know, or even care, about the sacrifices many made for their stolen Liberty.
They are stealing Liberty from the citizens of America by coming her illegally & refusing to assimilate & be a productive member of society. When you are productive, you do not require more services than what you pay for in taxes. Your children do not require ESL teachers. You do not need to visit the emergency room for health care & then run & pay no bill.
You actually have a work ethnic AND are willing to assimilate & educate yourself if you are not already educated.
You are willing to learn about & promote your host country’s values & way of life.
IF you are not, YOU NEED TO LEAVE.
I don’t care if these are families with 10 kids each who are suffering from all sorts of medical ailments & they came here for a better life blah blah blah.
Compassion is when we send foreign aid to the countries these people come from to make their hell hole a better place so they won’t leave.
Compassion is when our citizens volunteer to go to their countries & help them build their infrastructure, help them get vaccinated, etc.
It is NOT compassionate to encourage all of these people to come here illegally & become dependent slaves of the Democrat/Progressive/Communist Party.
Look what that dependency has done to the African American population. Look at what it has done to the conquered domestic dependent nations of the Native Americans.
WHY DO LIBERALS & SOME CONSERVATIVES WANT TO PERPETUATE THESE PEOPLES’ MISERY?
These people often get taken advantage of bcs they cannot speak English & are backward, scare & ignorant.
This will only increase.

Badger40 on July 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

The new immigrants are fertile. Ask Jeb Bush. And that’s the problem when it comes to the idea that it would be harmless to just all of a sudden give amnesty to all the children, as there may be 10 million adults immigrant ready to be citizens and vote, but there is a lot more children.

No amnesty at all. Or if the bleeding hearts are going to take control, do an amnesty bill only at least 5 years after effective security and e-verify have been in place.

And critically, don’t put any kind of “contingent” amnesty in a bill now. Because the security part will be ignored, and the amnesty will go forward despite the fact that the contingency (security) was not reached. That’s exactly what happened with the 1985 amnesty bill. Security only first, then years later consider amnesty

anotherJoe on July 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

When else do the children of criminals get to keep the stolen goods (citizenship)?

profitsbeard on July 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Probably only in the USA, as they serve a useful political purpose.

But then CONgress is a distinct American criminal class itself, so I guess many in that body can relate.

hawkeye54 on July 25, 2013 at 12:06 PM

This is the first step in selling us out again: We’ll give you this if you give us border “security” first.

Nonsense.

They pursue this path, and we will wind up with Gang of 8.

I called Cantor’s D.C. office this morning, since he seems to be playing Rubio for this. The very nice woman took my message.

I noted that we’ve been hearing this kind of nonsense for years, and that the House caucus is on its way to sticking us with Gang of 8.

I also told her that Rep. Cantor better hope all those dreamers reach voting age quickly, since I’m betting that millions of conservatives will stay home in November 2014 if they sell us out on this.

EastofEden on July 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

What next from this A-hole?

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va) pledged support of Republicans in his effort to abolish all prisons and detention programs. “Putting criminals in jail deprives their children, through no fault of their own, of the parent’s income and therefore, opportunity. As matter of fairness we must make sure that no child suffers just because of the lawbreaking by the parent.” Under Cantor’s plan, children of convicted lawbreakers would receive free tuition, healthcare, a car and an ipad along with a letter of apology from America for being so mean.

DaMav on July 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

WHY DO LIBERALS & SOME CONSERVATIVES WANT TO PERPETUATE THESE PEOPLES’ MISERY?
These people often get taken advantage of bcs they cannot speak English & are backward, scare & ignorant.
This will only increase.

That right there is the whole point, really. Perpetuate misery of the masses, increase poverty, ignorance and dependence upon entrenched corrupt government run by the political and financial elites. These people come from countries run by corruption at all levels, so they are accustomed to what the Left wants to here on the national level. They are used to it and accept it. The Left wants to perpetuate that way of thinking.

We are on our way to being the 3rd world country of the Left’s making.

Once the Left has achieved their desire of Amnesty, open borders and our guns, we’ll be there.

hawkeye54 on July 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Doug Ross (alias “Director Blue”) from Doug Ross’s Journal (terrific site) is proposing that if Boehner’s primary challenger fails, Ohio republicans vote for the democrat. He makes a political calculation that we can afford to lose the seat and the message to be sent is too important. I agree.

rrpjr on July 25, 2013 at 12:16 PM

There is one “something else” we could do when a majority of the low info electorate continues to vote the bums in, usually because the bums buy their votes……and it wouldn’t be neat and tidy.

But in the continuing course of events it may become necessary.

hawkeye54 on July 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Yes, but are they not outlawing high capacity magazines?

Zexerz on July 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM

But in the continuing course of events it may become necessary.

hawkeye54 on July 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Yes, but are they not outlawing high capacity magazines?

Zexerz on July 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM

The first step is state- and county-level nullification. Make it very clear that a federal officer who enters a state or county without the state’s authorization will be subject to detainment until such time as they decide to leave on their own. I can think of at least one Sheriff who would have the balls to do something like that if he had his state legislature’s backing…

gryphon202 on July 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Conservatives need to disavow the Republican Party. They are worse than Democrats right now because they are using left wing arguments against us.

echosyst on July 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

It’s unfortunate that Jordan of Ohio, an otherwise reliable conservative, has fallen for this farce.

FirelandsO3 on July 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

The Dreamer sort of nonsense just shows the nonsense of closing the border instead of closing taxpayer wallets. Let the Dreamers sign up for a green card, no public welfare benefits (including no tuition breaks not offered to regular citizens), etc. Sure, offer them loans for college or training according to same rules as citizens, including some provisions for dealing with skipping out on paying back the loan by leaving for another country — something other than another open wallet program that leaves taxpayers on the hook.

drfredc on July 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

I smell a gop cave and it stinks.

bgibbs1000 on July 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Dems will start complaining about “breaking up families.”

Wethal on July 25, 2013 at 9:27 AM

You should have used past tense in your comment. Dems already started the “families” demagoguery:

A White House senior adviser is accusing the House GOP of “cruel hypocrisy” for contemplating legal status for unauthorized immigrants brought to the U.S. as children — without also legalizing their parents.

It was totally predictable but Boehner, Cantor, etc are going along with it. They probably still think this pandering will get the media/Dems to play nice for a bit.

batter on July 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM

When are our politicians going to start “caring”(tm) about the children of American citizens?

Here in CA our legislature passed its own “dream act”. As a result, the state college and community college system is swamped with “CA-Dreamers”, illegal aliens, who not only vie for seats in over-crowded classrooms, but are eligible for special consideration, scholarships and other aid because they are a minority.

My son is struggling to get classes in the state college system and because he does not fit the PC “criteria” many scholarships and aid that is available to illegal aliens is not available to him – there is no such restrictions on them as everything he is eligible to apply for, they are eligible to apply for.

I was born and raised in CA and have watched it being eaten alive by leftist elites who are managing minority groups like herds of vote-cows. In the process of taking over the state – which they have for all intents and puposes, the civil structures have been devastated and what should have been a bright future for California citizens my son’s age has become a dark pit of endless, out of control taxing and spending and minority and elite preference.

DrDeano on July 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM

I smell a gop cave and it stinks.

bgibbs1000 on July 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Bat Guano.

hawkeye54 on July 25, 2013 at 12:59 PM

My son is struggling to get classes in the state college system and because he does not fit the PC “criteria” many scholarships and aid that is available to illegal aliens is not available to him – there is no such restrictions on them as everything he is eligible to apply for, they are eligible to apply for.

You and your son have been privileged far too long. Its about time the DREAMERS get the payback they deserve for the exploitation and discrimination they and their families have exeperienced from you others like you!!!

Get used to your current status and like it!!!

/SARC

hawkeye54 on July 25, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Bat Guano.

hawkeye54 on July 25, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Guano is really good for growing that pot bigot Steve King accused 75% of Mexicans smuggling.

Eric Cantor is at least trying to stop the bleeding. He also has his hand in the new VRA. That will definitely piss of the Tea Party bigot brigade.

Capitalist Hog on July 25, 2013 at 1:07 PM

This is all which matters.

Amnesty will accellerate this.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM

You actually think Democrats are trapped by this proposal?

The Democrats, with their media allies, will immediately counter that the GOP “wants to break up families.” They already had some DREAMer on TV tearfully testifying that her illegal mother “deserves a chance to stay here more than she does.”

Come on, Ed.

FishingwFredo on July 25, 2013 at 1:11 PM

The Architect of Destruction.

Don’t be deterred. Focus.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Who is going to define ‘children’?

IF the individual who was ‘carried here by their parents’ is under the age of 18, they are still a minor and, hence, clearly still a child.

IF that person has reached the age of majority and has failed to apply for legal status in their own right that individual is not only an adult, but guilty of shattering federal immigration law in precisely the same manner as their parent. They have knowingly and willfully shattered federal law.

Do we take the Pelosi tack then and declare that these people are children until they are 26 years of age, as intended with Obamacare?

Do we declare that these people are still children at the age of 30…or more… if they can show that they attended school, received free medical care in this nation, were arrested, perhaps even convicted of a misdemeanor, at some point when they were still a minor…even if that individual cannot prove they’ve been in this nation continuously since that time? IS that all that will be required to qualify for this ‘DREAMer’s’ amnesty?

What will the parameters be for determining the maximum age of these ‘children’? How many crimes, and what extent will those crimes be, committed by these individuals since they’ve been in this nation will be ‘allowed’ for the individual to still garner legal status?

How can we be sure that the border security that would be agreed upon and duly signed into law will ever be implemented?

How can we be sure that this isn’t just another political ploy used to keep all of the illegal aliens in this nation just as they are today? Here, illegal, more coming every day, having children here, and costing this nation billion every year.

thatsafactjack on July 25, 2013 at 1:40 PM

thatsafactjack on July 25, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Up to age 26, at least under Obamacare.

Wethal on July 25, 2013 at 1:41 PM

“House GOP: We’ll legalize “DREAMers” if border gets secured first”

Suicide is never pretty – but these mental defectives deserve it.

TeaPartyNation on July 25, 2013 at 1:54 PM

The GOP leadership is insane. That’s the only explanation for them taking advice from Chuckie Schumer and his pals.

Democrats lie (more than Republicans). They are devious. They conspired to kill the 1995 Sensenbrenner enforcement-only bill by voting 191 to 8 to keep “felony” in the December, 1995, bill.

The next spring, Senators Clinton, Kennedy, et al, stood on the Capitol steps rabble-rousing a La Raza crowd saying, “We’re not going to let the Republicans make you criminals”.

Democrats successfully CAMPAIGNED AGAINST THEIR OWN AMENDMENT!

The GOP has learned nothing. After the GOP “legalizes” the children, the Democrats will immediately start their “What about the parents?” campaign. Duh.

I just called DC offices of Cantor and Goodlatte. Told them they are foolishly committing political suicide and suggested they read the comments on this site to get a preview of the conservative backlash.

fred5678 on July 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Goodlatte’s aide refused to say how long the House would have to read any conference bill. That should send out warning signals, if anything.

Any actual conference would be fake theatre for the rubes.

Wethal on July 25, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Most likely behind closed doors since that is where they do their dirty work. Goodlatte is another disappointment. Regarding reading a bill, I can’t recall when that happened the last time.

They might even pass an Amendment to the Senate bill and whatever good is in there won’t be enforced. Who knows. We have a one party system, so they are all working together.

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Does Ed Morrissey actually believe anything Boehner, Cantor, or the rest of the House Eunuchs say about Special Immigration? PUHLEEZ Morrissey don’t be such a tool! These yellow, stained dhimmis are hysterically looking for some avenue to capitulate on Amnesty. They can’t wait to go full on traitor!

el Vaquero on July 25, 2013 at 2:39 PM

I also told her that Rep. Cantor better hope all those dreamers reach voting age quickly, since I’m betting that millions of conservatives will stay home in November 2014 if they sell us out on this.

EastofEden

Many of them have already reached voting age and are well into their 30s. If an illegal was brought here at age 10 25 years ago, he’d be 35 now.

I guarantee you if this goes into effect, 75% or more will claim to have been brought here as children, and they will get rubbestamped approval.

xblade on July 25, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Boehner is unreliable. Especially when members of the caucus in the minority of his own party plead with him… bleeding hearts seeking to destroy the Nation.

ajacksonian on July 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Electing him Speaker was the first mistake after the 2010 elections. It’s been downhill ever since.

We can’t forget McConnell either. It’s been Boehner/Cantor/Reid/McConnell. In fact McConnell is behind the scenes telling Senators not to sign S. Mike Lee’s letter or Ted Cruz’s bill to defund Obamacare. I’m sure he’s advising Boehner also.

Pass this around please:http://www.lee.senate.gov/public/

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 10:53 AM

McCarthy’s way of whipping votes for RINO bills is to go one by one and ask conservatives what kind of “principles” each person would like to see in a bill.

Those “principles” get included, but are totally gutted by the details.

Wethal on July 25, 2013 at 11:47 AM

I’m not aware of Cantor’s tactics, but what you say sounds like that weasal. I remember when Boehner/Cantor/McCarthy stripped some of the T.P. Conservatives from their Committee slots and also sub-committee slots.

Let’s hope the Conservatives have learned their lessons and won’t be taken in by a rotten carrot.

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Cantor is just making a fool of Republicans with his attempts to appease those who hate our guts and will call us heartless rcists no matter what we do.

DaMav on July 25, 2013 at 11:51 AM

The only question I have are the R’s being fools willingly or not.

I heard on the radio yesterday that young children are now being used to run drugs into our Country from the Mexican border.

Most of the Congress members love their seats above all.

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Old lady, raped and beaten by illegal, dies.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2013 at 11:54 AM

I read that. What a sick and evil thing to do. A lady from NE just called Rush on this. He didn’t spend much time with her, since he was ready for a break. (near 3PM)

They better charge that guy with Murder.

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Sure, fool, while amnesty will kill you and your minions, all of you.

Schadenfreude on July 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

DaMav on July 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I propose an Independent Mandatory Psychiatric Examination before any person takes an elected office. And thereafter quarterly.

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Doug Ross (alias “Director Blue”) from Doug Ross’s Journal (terrific site) is proposing that if Boehner’s primary challenger fails, Ohio republicans vote for the democrat. He makes a political calculation that we can afford to lose the seat and the message to be sent is too important. I agree.

rrpjr on July 25, 2013 at 12:16 PM

I’m not quite clear on this. Does Boehner have a challenger in 2014? I’m not aware of a Dem or a R running against him.

Thanks

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM

I also told her that Rep. Cantor better hope all those dreamers reach voting age quickly, since I’m betting that millions of conservatives will stay home in November 2014 if they sell us out on this.

EastofEden on July 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Glad you called. I hope he gets the message!!

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM

It’s unfortunate that Jordan of Ohio, an otherwise reliable conservative, has fallen for this farce.

FirelandsO3 on July 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I’d suggest we wait and see exactly what Cantor has proposed. We don’t know yet what he said to Jordan or any of them. Cantor lies.

Let’s contact Jordan’s office and find out. He’s a great Rep and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. His staff are top notch too.

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM

bluefox on July 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Here’s the story.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-plan-for-dealing-with-john-boehner.html

rrpjr on July 25, 2013 at 5:14 PM

When Republicans ask me for contributions now, I send their paperwork back with a note that says, “no more money or votes for you until I see how you handle immigration. If you approve or allow approval for it, I will drop the party. I WILL NOT SUPPORT DEM-LITE.

Oracleforhire on July 25, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Get ready for the next round of propaganda in support of the “Dreamers.”

Elusive Facebook billionaire CEO Mark Zuckerberg will take a star role in the national immigration debate next month — speaking in San Francisco at the West Coast premiere of a film highlighting the plight of an estimated 1.4 million undocumented young immigrants known as “DREAMers.”

“We’re at a critical moment in this issue…it’s all hands on deck,’’ said Bay Area journalist and immigration activist Jose Antonio Vargas, who wrote and directed “Documented.” The critically-acclaimed film details his own experiences as an undocumented youth and explores the plight of the estimated 1.4 million young “DREAMers” bought to the U.S. without documents as children.

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2013/07/25/breaking-facebook-ceo-zuckerberg-to-take-star-role-in-immigration-debate-speech-next-month-in-sf-video/

Does the name Jose Antonio Vargas sound familiar to you? Why is this man, who has been shouting from the rooftops that he is an ILLEGAL alien, still in our country?

ENFORCE OUR LAWS AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION NOW!

wren on July 25, 2013 at 9:48 PM

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., is the driving force behind the strategy to focus on legalizing undocumented youths.

Cantor is a snake. What does his give away have to do with rule of law. He has no interest in the voters who vote GOP. His only interest is getting as big a part of the amnesty bill passed as possible. He will use this bill, if passed, to then lobby for the parents, and relatives and he will ignore the conservatives who were dumb enough to vote GOP

As one House leadership aide framed it, “How can they say no to the kids?”

How dare they insult the citizens of this nation by implying they are bad unless they give up the rule of law? They are treating the American citizen like dog droppings.

I also told her that Rep. Cantor better hope all those dreamers reach voting age quickly, since I’m betting that millions of conservatives will stay home in November 2014 if they sell us out on this.

EastofEden on July 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

thank you

Conservatives need to disavow the Republican Party. They are worse than Democrats right now because they are using
left wing arguments against us.

echosyst on July 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I disavow the party. If a shred of this is passed it will be the GOP fault, not the DEM. I will work big time against the GOP, and I will grow a force who will multiply the effect. I have a lot of independents to work with.

From what I see this week, the GOP is my enemy, and an enemy of Rule of Law. They hate this nation, and they hate the idea that citizens have sovereignty over the nation when it should belong to the elites. I am over it. They working against my interests and against my beautiful nation, spitting on the meaning of representative government. The GOP is dead

entagor on July 25, 2013 at 11:15 PM

And of course, once the kids get to stay,we can’t possibly say no to the parents.What total capitulation.Death to the GOP!

redware on July 26, 2013 at 5:20 PM

This greaseball is so slick you don’t even feel the blade.

RdLake on July 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Why are people so down on Mexico? They’re just being sent back to their fatherland. It’s not cruel and unusual punishment.

What? Mexico is a hell-hole? Well, not our issue, is it? The parents should have thought about that.

virgo on July 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

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