Video: CBS poll shows more Americans than ever want ObamaCare repealed

posted at 2:41 pm on July 24, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Two more polls on ObamaCare show that Americans largely don’t believe it will work, and more people than ever want it repealed. First, a new CBS poll shows that a solid majority disapproves of ObamaCare by eighteen points, and that support for repeal is on the rise:

A new CBS News poll finds more Americans than ever want the Affordable Care Act repealed.

According to the poll, 36 percent of Americans want Congress to expand or keep the health care law while 39 percent want Congress to repeal it – the highest percentage seen in CBS News polls. The poll also found a majority of Americans – 54 percent – disapprove of the health care law, 36 percent of Americans approve of it and 10 percent said they don’t know about it.

The health care law is a chronic issue for the White House, CBS News political director John Dickerson said on “CBS This Morning.” “There’s an operational part to this, which is that the White House has got to get people to sign up for these health exchanges, particularly younger, healthier Americans, and so they are tactically running a campaign much like the presidential campaign, reaching out, using the techniques of that campaign to get younger people to sign up for these health exchanges.”

The White House has two problems with that scenario. First, younger people don’t need expensive comprehensive health insurance, as they tend to be healthier and require less access to health care than older Americans. ObamaCare is structured to use that low-access rate to shift wealth in order to essentially subsidize the costs of mandatory coverage for pre-Medicare older Americans. Second, the penalty for non-compliance is far less than the cost of buying the insurance — especially since ObamaCare forces insurers to cover despite pre-existing conditions. Under those circumstances, it makes a lot more sense to pay a fine and just buy the comprehensive insurance when an illness or injury makes it necessary.

National Journal’s new poll finds Americans skeptical that the scheme will work at all — except for the poor. Confidence in the ObamaCare structure has significantly declined as the structural problems of implementation have come to light as the deadlines approach:

After all those developments, just 35 percent of those surveyed in the new poll said they believed the law will benefit “people like you or your family,” while 46 percent expected it would make things worse for them. That’s a decline from last September, when 43 percent expected improvement and 40 percent anticipated harm.

Two other measures found even greater slippage. Just 36 percent of those surveyed say the law will “make things better” for the middle class, while 49 percent say they expect it will “make things worse.” That’s another steep decline from September, when 45 percent said it would help, and 40 percent said it would hurt, the middle-class.

Likewise, the share of adults who say the law will benefit the country overall fell by a comparable amount. Last September, a 50-percent-to-39-percent majority thought the law would make things better, rather than worse, for the nation overall. But in the new poll those numbers have almost reversed: Just 41 percent expect benefits for the country, while a 48 percent plurality believe the law will make things worse. …

Ominously for the White House, the survey found that hesitation is widespread even among the portions of the white community usually most receptive to Democrats. Only about one-third of whites ages 18-34 said they believed the law would benefit the middle class, the country, or their own families. Similarly just 29 percent of college-educated white women thought the law would personally benefit them and only 35 percent thought it would help the middle class—though 44 percent thought it would help the country overall (compared with 48 percent who thought the law would hurt it.) College-educated white men also expressed doubt about its impact on the middle class and their own family, but a narrow plurality thought it would help the country overall.

Earlier this month, the White House highlighted the gains made in New York through implementation of the law.  The Wall Street Journal points out, though, that the improvement came because existing state law on health insurance was even worse than ObamaCare. And New York had the exact same experience with must-issue regulations that we will shortly see with younger Americans as this unfolds:

The real news is that New York ruined its individual insurance market two decades ago by imposing the same regulations that ObamaCare is about to impose on every other state. If the Empire State’s premiums do now fall, it will be because the Affordable Care Act partially deregulates New York insurance.

The culprit behind New York’s long-standing insurance woes is a regulation known as “community rating” that hides in higher premiums the income transfers from one group to another. Insurance works best when people pay rates that are tied to their expected health risks over time. But a few states limit how much premiums can vary from person to person.

ObamaCare takes this community rating national. The law says that no individual can pay more than three times what the least expensive person pays, regardless of risk. Today 42 states have rating bands that are five to one or more.

New York’s ratio is one to one. This means that insurers must vastly overprice coverage for, say, a 28-year-old who exercises regularly and doesn’t smoke but vastly underprice coverage for a 55-year-old with high-cost chronic illnesses. Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo adopted this rule in 1992.

Premiums shot up 30% to 40% on average in the first year, often much more, and continued to spike. Insurers shed books of business, while customers cancelled their policies. Enrollment fell 38% in three years. About a dozen major insurers at the time sold the dominant style of indemnity coverage, similar to traditional fee-for-service Medicare. By 1996, every one had fled the state.

Bad incentives caused the exodus. The majority of people under 65 with low risks can avoid community rating’s economic distortions by not buying coverage, especially because another rule called “guaranteed issue” lets them wait until they are sick before they buy coverage.

In other words, it’s only an improvement because ObamaCare forces a slightly more rational premium ratio than Cuomo imposed twenty years ago.  That makes the redistribution of wealth from younger and poorer entrants to those older and wealtheir only marginally less reprehensible in theory, but the outcome will probably be similar in practice anyway.

CBS’ crew discusses the results of the poll, as well as the enduringly bad perception of the US economy as Obama continues his windup to Deja Pivot later today.

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“Put them all on death panels” — Valerie Jarrett

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 2:41 PM

I bet this sow doesn’t.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 2:42 PM

A lot of racists around these days.

Dack Thrombosis on July 24, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Gee, IF we had only been allowed to read it before they passed it…

coldwarrior on July 24, 2013 at 2:46 PM

How about that – the majority of Americans wre against this POS bill when they rammed it down our throats and into law, and now even MORE hate this thing and want it gone. Even the UNIONS, who supported this in the beginning, are against this thing now!

Everyone should full-court press their Congressmen and demand they De-Fund Obamacare, piece by piece or as a whole. They control the purse strings, they know we can’t afford it, so they need to do it.

easyt65 on July 24, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Now they want it repealed. The best chance for that was back in November.

Bitter Clinger on July 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM

The only solution, then, is get more celebrities on-board to sell it, devise another 20,000 pages of regulations, and throw more money at it.

Barring that…

“They don’t know what’s good for them. That’s why they need us so much.”

– Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Matthews, Morgan, et. al.

Liam on July 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM

1. Repeal ObamaCare
2. Replace with common-sense conservative/Libertarian reform
3. All the millionaire and billionaire 1%er Lefties and Obama Cultists pool their money and create a public/private subsidy for all those Americans going “bankrupt” from medical expenses. That shouldn’t be a problem for caring, generous Lefties, right?

visions on July 24, 2013 at 2:49 PM

“Put them all on death panels” — Valerie Jarrett

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 2:41 PM

“Yep, let’s roll.” – Sebelius the Queen of Death

22044 on July 24, 2013 at 2:50 PM

The American People deserve what they get. They reelected the *&^$er.

Conservative4ev on July 24, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Time for an Executive Order mandating that the IRS helpfully deduct the cost of comprehensive health insurance from the paychecks of those under the age of 30. When challenged, the rat-eared mullato will simply scream “It’s the right thing to do” as he did when he gave all those DREAMER criminals de facto amnesty.

Happy Nomad on July 24, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Two more polls on ObamaCare show that Americans largely don’t believe it will work

Who cares what American ant ?
What matters is what mexicans want, what muzies want, what the crooks that buy this White House want….

burrata on July 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Didn’t ABC/WaPo put out a poll yesterday or maybe Monday saying 51% want to keep this nightmare? Are we back to dueling polls?

Boats48 on July 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM

“Yep, let’s roll.” – Sebelius the Queen of Death

22044 on July 24, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Nurse Ratched

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Congressional GOP: grow a pair and refuse to pass a continuing resolution to fund the government unless Obamacare is defunded.

Make Dems explain why it’s worth shutting down the government to keep a program most Americans don’t want.

DRayRaven on July 24, 2013 at 2:54 PM

In contrast to some of the go along get along types, I like the raw spirit and guts showed by Senator Mike Lee and others. From yesterday’s qotd:

Senate Republicans, including two members of the leadership, are coalescing around a proposal to block any government funding resolution that includes money for the implementation of the 2010 Affordable Care Act…

“This is the last stop before ObamaCare fully kicks in on Jan. 1 of next year for us to refuse to fund it,” [Mike] Lee said Monday on “Fox and Friends.”

“If Republicans in both houses simply refuse to vote for any continuing resolution that contains further funding for further enforcement of ObamaCare, we can stop it. We can stop the individual mandate from going into effect,” he said.

***

Lee similarly suggested in a Friday interview on WBAL 1090 AM that he and other Republicans would be willing to shut down the government.

“I’ll utilize every procedural mechanism at my disposal to do it,” he said. “I generally don’t signal in advance what procedural maneuvers exactly I’ll use because it’s usually not good strategy. But what I am saying is I will not vote for a continuing resolution that contains funding for further Obamacare implantation and enforcement.

anotherJoe on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM

‘Love’ you too, liblikeaslave.

Here is my favorite story of today. The mama sure has her priorities straight.

Btw, if you’d use that God-given brain for good, you’d contribute way more. The black kids would have something to thank you for.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Did anyone even listen to Dear Leader’s big speech today..?

d1carter on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM

How in the F do 37% of Americans rate the economy as “good” ?!!?!

I suppose since the economy starting going in the crapper like 6 or 7 years ago, they’re just so dopey that they assume it MUST be better now.

deadrody on July 24, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Did anyone even listen to Dear Leader’s big speech today..?

d1carter on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM

They listened but they didn’t hear a thing. No one gives a damn about him.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 2:57 PM

libfreeordie on July 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Is that the same Onion that called a 9-year old black girl a c*unt?

sentinelrules on July 24, 2013 at 2:58 PM

The New York model’s outcome for Obamacare, and America:

In 1996 Albany tried to fix Mr. Cuomo’s mess by requiring any managed-care insurer doing business in New York to also sell on the individual market, but the market never recovered. In 1992, some 1.2 million New Yorkers bought individual plans, which fell to 128,000 by 2001, and a mere 31,000 today. Think about that: Out of 19.5 million residents, and with three out of every 15 nonelderly adults uninsured, 0.0016% of the population uses this market.

Is it any wonder that insurers in California are pulling out of the individual market. They know what happened in NY. This is the definition of insanity…

But we all know that this will be the impetus for single payer, the Left’s ultimate dream.

Patriot Vet on July 24, 2013 at 2:59 PM

IMO, even if they did repeal this law, sadly I think the prices will NOT go down, and if they do, like gas prices, it will go down very very slowly. Fast to rise, turtle speed going down.

watertown on July 24, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Nurse Ratched

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM

I had to look up Nurse Ratched. Spot on, Schad!

22044 on July 24, 2013 at 3:00 PM

The President just gave an hour and six minute speech….it’s very telling and SAD when everyone you know no longer listens to the President’s speech but prefers to read the ‘Fact Check’ organizations’ review of the speech afterwards to make sure you get the truth and can avoid the BS in the live speech!

LOL!

easyt65 on July 24, 2013 at 3:00 PM

CBS poll shows more Americans than ever want ObamaCare repealed

GOP Ruling Class Elite braintrust interpretation:

“Gosh that Obamacare is keen! We better hop on the bandwagon!”

(“Anyone see McCain?”)

Bruno Strozek on July 24, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Did anyone even listen to Dear Leader’s big speech today..?

d1carter on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Obama did. He loves the sound of his own voice.

Bitter Clinger on July 24, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Kill the d@mned law – my company wants to hire more people, but we have to hire part-timers to cover the gaps.

Running with 49 full-time employees sucks when you need 60 people!

Turtle317 on July 24, 2013 at 3:03 PM

For those people that are still sour about Mittens losing the election.. riddle me this… why on earth would I trust a guy WHO MORE OR LESS GAVE THE STRUCTURE to ObamaCare? WHY?

watertown on July 24, 2013 at 3:03 PM

“A new CBS News poll finds more Americans than ever want the Affordable Care Act repealed…”

So?

rrpjr on July 24, 2013 at 3:04 PM

For dear Schadenfreude

http://www.theonion.com/video/judge-rules-white-girl-will-be-tried-as-black-adul,18896/

libfreeordie on July 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM

This one’s for you, Precious…

Far Left TX Activist Apologizes for Smearing Pro-Zimmerman Group With Hateful Racist Sign

On Sunday, a far left Texas activist infiltrated a pro-Zimmerman rally in Houston and held up an outrageous sign promoting racism.

“Racist and Proud”

The perpetrator was later identified here as Renee Vaughan from Austin, a far left environmental activist operating in Texas.

Renee Vaughan says she doesn’t want to foment hate.

“I did a really stupid thing this weekend, and I apologize with all of my being. No matter who I agree or disagree with, I don’t want to foment hate. I my haste, I did exactly that. Had I thought before I put a bad message out to the world, I wouldn’t have hurt, angered and embarrassed so many people. I pray for forgiveness, and to never, ever be that stupid again. Those who know me know that I want a better world for everyone. I hope you can forgive me, World.”

It’s a little late for that, Renee.

You must be so proud of her tolerance.

Del Dolemonte on July 24, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Did anyone even listen to Dear Leader’s big speech today..?

d1carter on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM

What, and miss New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick’s live presser about Aaron Hernandez?

Del Dolemonte on July 24, 2013 at 3:06 PM

For those people that are still sour about Mittens losing the election.. riddle me this… why on earth would I trust a guy WHO MORE OR LESS GAVE THE STRUCTURE to ObamaCare? WHY?

watertown on July 24, 2013 at 3:03 PM

There are a lot of myths and urban legends out there about “RomneyCare” in MA. But here is what really happened.

Romney wrote some of the bill, but so did the Democrats who control the Commonwealth.

Romney vetoed 8 sections of the “RomneyCare” bill because they would add too much cost. All 8 of his overrides were promptly overturned by the Democrat-dominated MA General Court.

It may have his name on it, but it’s not all his.

Del Dolemonte on July 24, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Did anyone even listen to Dear Leader’s big speech today..?

d1carter on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM

I assume the speech including most of the following words phrased as follows:

Bush’s fault
summer recovery
focused like a laser
increase taxes
Republican obstructionism
government must intervene
take our minds off of (insert scandal here)

I know… I’m just psychic.

Turtle317 on July 24, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Did anyone even listen to Dear Leader’s big speech today..?

d1carter on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM

I streamed most of it at work. It was awful. Not only was it recycled crap from 5 years ago, but both Obama and the crowd were lifeless. The highlight for me were the insanely huge arms on the lady sitting behind Obama. I made sure to capture a screenshot of it.

Doughboy on July 24, 2013 at 3:15 PM

What, and miss New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick’s live presser about Aaron Hernandez?

Del Dolemonte on July 24, 2013 at 3:06 PM

If I could, I would never miss a Bill Belichick presser!

22044 on July 24, 2013 at 3:21 PM

CBS poll shows more Americans than ever want ObamaCare repealed

I won’t be satisfied until it reads:

Video: CBS poll shows more Americans than ever want ObamaCare repealed
and Obama impeached.

Cleombrotus on July 24, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Gravity

Bmore on July 24, 2013 at 3:25 PM

You must be so proud of her tolerance.

Del Dolemonte on July 24, 2013 at 3:05 PM

This must be the mythical conversation that liveasaslave always talks about.

ShadowsPawn on July 24, 2013 at 3:47 PM

anotherJoe on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Senator Mike Lee has a plan. I’ve been following this, heard him on Hannity yesterday (radio) and he was on Hannity’s TV show last evening.

So far 66 House members and 15 Senators have signed on. We all need to call our own members to sign on with Lee.

He also said this on his website:

“If congressional Democrats want to oppose appropriations bills without additional ObamaCare funding, shut down the government, and side with the President and big business against the American people, then it’s their choice. But three years in, even the president himself has now admitted that ObamaCare won’t work. The only responsible choice now is to protect the country from ObamaCare’s looming disaster, start over and finally begin work on real health care reform.”

http://www.lee.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=7f43fb22-f9f0-4f05-ba58-b73092126dc3

bluefox on July 24, 2013 at 3:51 PM

libfreeordie on July 24, 2013

You do know the Onion is a news parody, don’t you?

Barred on July 24, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Now they want it repealed. The best chance for that was back in November.

Bitter Clinger on July 24, 2013

THIS! Any poll about Obamacare, approval, right/wrong direction is meaningless. The poll that mattered was last November. 51% wanted more of the same so who cares about polls. Let it burn.

RedInMD on July 24, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Here is the “I love the Tea Party now” Mitch McConnell on Mike Lee’s effort.

Unfortunately, I can confirm from multiple sources in the United States Senate that Senator McConnell’s office has begun pressuring Republicans to back away from the Mike Lee effort. In fact, one senate source tells me Senator Lee himself was asked to take his signature off his own letter.

Senator Mike Lee has issued his letter. Senator Ted Cruz has introduced legislation to defund Obamacare. The following Redstate article has the list of those that have signed Lee’s letter and those that have signed on with Ted Cruz.

Keep in mind Ted Cruz’s legislation most likely won’t get out of Committee, therefore Lee’s letter is more important imo.

We all need to get on this folks!!
http://www.redstate.com/2013/07/24/will-senate-republicans-surrender-the-fight/

bluefox on July 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM

O/T Good thing Weiner had a press conference otherwise Hannity wouldn’t have anything to talk about. Turning him off. Rome is burning and he’s playing the fiddle.

Rant off:-)

bluefox on July 24, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Guess they’re starting to “find out what’s in it“.

Welcome to the party, pal.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on July 24, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Resist We Much on July 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM

LOL, those toons are good!

bluefox on July 24, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Mass Shooter Confesses He Learned to Hate Whitey at University

Resist We Much on July 24, 2013 at 4:19PM

WOW. I think perhaps that person was unstable to begin with. What a shame. Of course sitting under the teaching of that school didn’t help. Dangerous places.

Liked your message to the two also:-)

bluefox on July 24, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Getting forced onto part-time hours thanks to Obamacare will have this effect on people.

njrob on July 24, 2013 at 5:28 PM