Chris Hayes: I found the defense of Weiner by his wife “surprisingly persuasive”

posted at 3:26 pm on July 24, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Examiner, I’m going to give Hayes the benefit of the doubt and assume that he’s pandering to his audience in saying this, not that he really believes it. His reputation for being “cerebral” may be overstated but there ain’t no way no how no chance this guy’s sincerely convinced by the “logic” that because a candidate has been forgiven by his spouse for wrongdoing, the electorate should forgive too. If Huma can tolerate Weiner’s seemingly pathological need for affirmation by sexting with random women, that’s great; why a voter would tolerate it, I have no idea. At a bare minimum, you’re electing a punchline to run your city. More substantively, you’re putting government in the hands of a guy who’s likely to end up distracted by future scandals, whose behavior is so recklessly compulsive that he carried on with it after he was forced from office because of it (and reportedly received not nearly enough therapy afterward), who’s possibly exposed himself to blackmail over his indiscretions, and who’s showed a willingness to lie his way through this that even his own friends admit is “sociopathic.” In fact, so freakishly reckless and careerist is Weiner that he allegedly discussed his plans to run for mayor with the woman he was sexting with, someone he knew could imperil those plans (and has) simply by revealing what they were doing. This isn’t a man who had a fling and then remorsefully ‘fessed up. This is someone who’s been forced into holding multiple press conferences over the span of years to try to explain why self-taken photos of his junk keep surfacing on the Internet. Somehow Huma’s check-the-box “leave him alone” statement washes all of that away, huh?

Here’s the real significance of her statement yesterday. It’s not that she sincerely “persuaded” Hayes or anyone else; what she did was provide a peg for the talking point he’s using here, that because she’s blessed his candidacy, his sins are more or less absolved. She’s the wronged woman. Per the rules of American political discourse, that means she enjoys unquestioning moral authority no matter how creepy her and Weiner’s careerist, affectless performances were yesterday and no matter how much, as Larry O’Connor puts it, she’s wittingly or unwittingly enabling him by acting as human shield for his political ambitions. The media’s in raptures over her — Mika Brzezinski is an especially overwrought example — partly because she’s the one sympathetic figure in all this (or was) and partly because she’s a de facto Clinton family member and therefore Democratic royalty. That’s how a rote, pro forma “stop endangering my husband’s ambitions” plea to the media becomes “impressive” rather than a cheap attempt to let Weiner hide behind his wife’s skirt.

By the way, when asked last night why he chose the handle “Carlos Danger,” Carlos Danger replied that he has no idea what people are talking about. Huma forgives him, though, so I guess we’ll let that slide.


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Huma smiled several times during his talk.

It’s all part of the Hillary machine.

ScrewYorkers w/b a perfect term, if he’s voted Mayor.

Feminazis, are you not ashamed of yourselves, you sows?

He keeps his wife in dhimitude.

Hillary may run her as VP. It has advantages:

1. Weiner can be Wiener.

2. Huma can do Hillary.

3. Bill can be Bill.

4. The Muslim votes are assured, not that they s/b, since a Jew keeps Huma in dhimitude.

5. Leftists can be pigs.

No one could invent such books, fiction or not.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Wow…. the stupid is strong with this one.

UltimateBob on July 24, 2013 at 3:28 PM

5. Leftists can be pigs.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Can be?

I always thought it was a prerequisite.

UltimateBob on July 24, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Chris Hayes: I found the defense of Weiner by his wife “surprisingly persuasive”

That’s because she’s more of a man than you can ever hope to be, you effeminate douche.

Thomas More on July 24, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Chris Hayes: I found the defense of Weiner by his wife “surprisingly persuasive” “amazing”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=55rTXRMy3GA

Stu Gotts on July 24, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Maybe Hayes wants in on some of Danger’s sexts. He certainly looks the part of a sleazy/sexy woman who would love it.

NOMOBO on July 24, 2013 at 3:34 PM

These people are pathetic. Their own can apparently never do wrong. And you confused Rachel Maddow with some girls name AP.

NotCoach on July 24, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Democrats praising Democrats for forgiving Democrats is un-persuasive.

It’s a circle jerk Mr. Danger may be familiar with.

Jabberwock on July 24, 2013 at 3:35 PM

If he pulls out she won’t get that prominent position in Hillary’s presidency. Someone needs to feed the baby, and the Utopian dreams.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 3:35 PM

HE IS A LIER, THAT’S WHY HE SHOULD NOT GET ELECTED!

gullxn on July 24, 2013 at 3:36 PM

…but there ain’t no way no how no chance this guy’s sincerely convinced by the “logic” that because a candidate has been forgiven by his spouse for wrongdoing, the electorate should forgive too…

I wouldn’t be too sure of that. I mean, I just find it hard to believe MSM reporters can sit there night after night spewing their trash without believing it. If they somehow can, then they obviously have neither a conscience; nor sense of honor; nor good character.

Liam on July 24, 2013 at 3:38 PM

More people watched this clip on HA then actually watched his show live.

Message/messenger/empty room.

patman77 on July 24, 2013 at 3:39 PM

More substantively, you’re putting government in the hands of an guy ass who’s likely to end up distracted by face future scandals

Never forego an opportunity to work “ass” and “face” into a piece on Assface.

Christien on July 24, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Maddow looks good in a tie…more like a lady!

WhatsRight on July 24, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Anthony Weiner would be banned from VA if Ken Cuccinelli had his way. You got one guy who is an incurable manwhore. You have another guy who is afraid of oral sex. Both parties are so screwed.

Capitalist Hog on July 24, 2013 at 3:40 PM

That’s cool Chris….

I found the defense of you by NAMBLA to be
unsurprisingly unpersuasive

ToddPA on July 24, 2013 at 3:41 PM

The Democratic kool-aid must be heavily spiked because it certainly impairs judgement.

Kingfisher on July 24, 2013 at 3:42 PM

It doesn’t take much to persuade Hayes. He’s easy.

faraway on July 24, 2013 at 3:43 PM

1. Who is this Chris Hayes blob and why does he keep showing up on HA?

2. Enabling sexual predators is good work experience. Right, Hillary? Huma for Senate!

Seriously, Huma. Leave. For your child if not yourself.

tuffy on July 24, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Why is anyone surprised Hayes is all about the Weiner after all and he will defend the Weiner with all of his skills.

bbinfl on July 24, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Nothing screams empowerment like being a door mat for a pervert. You go Huma!!

Big Orange on July 24, 2013 at 3:46 PM

“That’s not what she meant when she told him to stick it out!”"

Wander on July 24, 2013 at 3:47 PM

This idiot makes Maddow seem like a Fox anchor.

Chuck Schick on July 24, 2013 at 3:50 PM

I just sort of resent that a morally flaccid couple think that Voters could extend the same type of goodwill to a freak candidate as that freak candidate’s wife.

I mean, if I were a New Yorker, I would be thinking that a vow requires a very different set of consideration points than a vote. So, to normalize Weenie’s behavior by Mrs. Weenie appearing somewhat normal/forgiving, um, just didn’t work for me. It actually pissed me off because it’s so manipulative.

LetsBfrank on July 24, 2013 at 3:50 PM

AP, did you give a try to the online Carlos Danger name conversion widget?

I’m Miguel Angel Trouble, if you’re wondering…./

ted c on July 24, 2013 at 3:51 PM

The same woman that let the Benghazi ambassador burn, stands up for her weiner.

faraway on July 24, 2013 at 3:51 PM

It’s easy to be persuaded when you desperately want to be persuaded.

Red Cloud on July 24, 2013 at 3:51 PM

It’s because of her connection to Hillary. If she was just another wife, I don’t think you’d be seeing this reaction.

changer1701 on July 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM

I wouldn’t imagine that alternatively, Haynes might actually be persuaded that this woman finds power (by proxy) more attractive and that’s the only reason she pulled a Hilary and stoodb by this creep…eiher way, I find Huma more pathetic (she’s got either an incredibly low self esteem, or she’s drunk with power) and cynical than her creepy azz cracka husband… I apologize in advance to Jeantel – that linguist expert – if I misused said phrase in context :) …I defer to her black slang/coloquial/vernacular English expertise :)…

jimver on July 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Chris Hayes is a more liberal, feminine, & emotionally fragile version of Rachel Maddow. He was born with a raging, left-wing fever with no antidote (not even more cowbell) and makes the modern-day effeminate betazoid hipster dude look like Burt Lancaster.

It is therefore entirely unsurprising that he would closely identify with the liberal, feminine & emotionally fragile Huma Abedin.

All 5 of his total daily viewers understand and appreciate this.

Sacramento on July 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM

What do the polls say about weiner now?

Flapjackmaka on July 24, 2013 at 3:53 PM

The depravity of moral equivalency finds a way to tolerate a pervert.

Color me shocked.

This Hayes fellow just can’t stop beclowning himself, can he?

novaculus on July 24, 2013 at 3:55 PM

I hope he wins. If MN can elect Franken and Ventura, why should we all be deprived of the opportunity to chortle daily at Anthony’s escapades, once he tastes that sweet, sweet mayoral power?

a capella on July 24, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Anthony Weiner would be banned from VA if Ken Cuccinelli had his way.

Crapitalist Porky on July 24, 2013 at 3:40 PM

How exactly can someone be banned from a state? Do enlighten us.

(Starts another sundial)

Del Dolemonte on July 24, 2013 at 3:55 PM

I seriously hope Weiner and Spitzer win. I would change my party affiliation just to vote for them if I lived in NYC. New York needs to hit rock bottom if we’re ever to have a chance of winning there again.

crrr6 on July 24, 2013 at 3:55 PM

He could just change his name and people would forget about the scandals. I’m thinking “Anthony Schlong”.

The Rogue Tomato on July 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Did any of you really want to to take a seat in the Weiners’ therapy session yesterday?

Me neither.

Funny how these guys (D) never want us ‘in the bedroom’ but then we’re invited into their bedroom, sextroom, therapy session, and confessional all in one press conference.

LetsBfrank on July 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Chris Hayes: I found the defense of Weiner by his wife “surprisingly persuasive”

Translation: I’m not very bright.

Bitter Clinger on July 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Retard Hog

You’re not fooling anyone. Everyone knows you love wiener.

xblade on July 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM

I read or heard that the woman thought she was the love of his life and that she meant more to weiner than Huma. One problem: they never met. Have we gotten so bent that we now have deep relationships where actually meeting in person is optional? It’s like being a death row groupie has become the norm.

Blake on July 24, 2013 at 3:58 PM

She’s the wronged woman. Per the rules of American political discourse, that means she enjoys unquestioning moral authority

what does the Hot Air wayback machine say?

Video: Did MSNBC’s Countdown call Sen. David Vitter’s wife a “prostitute”?

rw on July 24, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Why do all the lesbians on MSDNC always say such ridiculous things?

jukin3 on July 24, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Isn’t Huma Abedin a Muslim and has close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood?

Her mother, Saleha Mahmood Abedin, is one of the founding members of the Muslim Sisterhood, and more importantly the long-time chairperson of the “International Islamic Committee for Woman and Child” (IICWC), which wants to impose Sharia law on Egypt.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/07/20/Huma-Abedin-mother-linked-Muslim-Brotherhood

albill on July 24, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Huma and kid aside – would we want this non-stop sexting addiction in a non-married elected official? Does anyone believe this would not affect job performance?
More importantly, do enough Noo Yawk City voters care?

Marcola on July 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Be vewry vewry careful of pseudo intellectuals…there’s on in the WH.

d1carter on July 24, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Allah gets most emotional when writing about Bloomberg and ,now, Weiner. I think he’s from NYC. If I was from NYC I’d also be emotional about C.Danger.

Decades ago, but long after Al Capone died, tourists from Chicago would find that wherever they went outside America someone would end up saying to them “Al Capone!” with an mimed imitation of a tommy gun firing.

Once Weiner becomes mayor, those same sort of tourists but from NYC will be greeted with a “Carlos Danger!” and an imitation of a …

BoxHead1 on July 24, 2013 at 4:05 PM

xblade on July 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Heh, GREAT Zinger!

LegendHasIt on July 24, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Even though I know this to be a pointless exercise, I cannot help but imagine how the news media would react if this were a Republican scandal with an almost 50 year-old Conservative caught describing his fond wish to pull the hair of and ‘gag’ a 22 year-old girl. Also, I’m pretty sure it’s okay to drop the “seeminly” qualifier. It’s clear he’s just plain old “pathological.”

cynccook on July 24, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Remember the old saw about how “we’re all New Yorkers now”? We ain’t.

echosyst on July 24, 2013 at 4:07 PM

It’s nice to see Huma’s credibility on trial in the court of public opinion, even more so because she is Hillary’s protege. Establishes a pattern.

Again, look for “Aw, girlfren!” interviews with Huma and Hillary soon. Dems know that people are catching on to their stupid game and won’t automatically respect Huma’s efforts to cloak herself in Absolute Moral Authority.

Christien on July 24, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Carlos Danger supporters. Watch at your own risk.

http://photos.denverpost.com/2013/06/30/photos-gay-pride-celebrations-in-new-york-and-san-francisco/

patman77 on July 24, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I never watch this guy…what’s with all the hand motions..?

d1carter on July 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Chris Hayes(D-BobbleHeadDoll) I found the defense of Weiner by his Muslim Brotherhood Ho “surprisingly persuasive”

DANEgerus on July 24, 2013 at 4:08 PM

You can be sure Chrissy’s rear has been tampered with from time to time.

docflash on July 24, 2013 at 4:12 PM

It is impossible to parody the parody that is MSNBC.

Good Lt on July 24, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Nothing screams empowerment like being a door mat for a pervert. You go Huma!!

Big Orange on July 24, 2013 at 3:46 PM

This.

lucyvanpelt on July 24, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Repeat from Headlines:

Thanks (or curses) to Mark Steyn @ NRO, I’ve finally read “The Weiner Exchanges” in all their filthy MacNasty glory. Were any of the text read aloud on basic cable, it would be Bleep-a-Palooza!

The one Freudian slip that exposes Mr. Weiner’s narcissism was when he tried to tell his dumbazz cyber-girlfriend how crazy her imaginary chocha makes him.

I make me insane. More! I’m gonna *** again. So hard.

Funny how he manages to pay attention to his punctuation, innit.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on July 24, 2013 at 4:35 PM

ted c on July 24, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Hey bro. I used the name I was given from the porn star name generator* and came up with Guillermo Trouble.

porn star name generator = first pet name and first street name you lived on…Prince Reamer at yer service

DanMan on July 24, 2013 at 4:41 PM

It’s easy to be persuaded when you desperately want to be persuaded.

Red Cloud on July 24, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Bingo.

Fallon on July 24, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Nothing screams empowerment like being a door mat for a pervert. You go Huma!!

this may be the thread winner, nice job Big Orange

DanMan on July 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Guess the old “war on women” meme doesn’t apply here.

Oh yeah, I forgot – the D next to this idiot’s name.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on July 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM

porn star name generator = first pet name and first street name you lived on…Prince Reamer at yer service

DanMan on July 24, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Elmer Highway O. Hmmm… Now, how do I make that work?

Fallon on July 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM

porn star name generator = first pet name and first street name you lived on…Prince Reamer at yer service

DanMan on July 24, 2013 at 4:41 PM

E

lmer Highway O. Hmmm… Now, how do I make that work?

Fallon on July 24, 2013 at 4:45 PM

We have a thing here in this part of PA called the
Hershey Highway…

..no, seriously, we do. Hershey, PA is right up the road from me.

ToddPA on July 24, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Right, it was persuasive.

See Weiner didn’t do anything. He just tried to get a young girl to move across the country to be near him; reliant on him for her livelihood, job, and home…

No strings attached, he’s just that nice kind of guy who will move you across the country on his dime and let you live on his dime for nothing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/23/anthony-weiner-carlos-danger_n_3640295.html

Oh, we’re overlooking the “I’ll cover your apartment and get you a job at Politico” part of the sexting? Yeah, I’d avoid that too if I were trying to defend Weiner.

What did his wife say that explained Weiner trying to set up his sexting buddy as a Mistress that’s he’d be Sugar Daddy for in order to have sex with her?

I missed the part where any defense of that was “persuasive”. It would be surprise if she had a persuasive defense though… any persuasive defense would be surprising.

gekkobear on July 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Chris Hayes: I found the defense of Weiner by his wife “surprisingly persuasive”

Maybe we should go easy on Hayes. Maybe little Chrissy’s mommy and daddy didn’t teach him about the birds and the bees yet so he may not truly know what’s going on.

Kingfisher on July 24, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Nothing screams empowerment like being a door mat for a pervert. You go Huma!!

this may be the thread winner, nice job Big Orange

DanMan on July 24, 2013 at 4:44 PM

I wonder what Sandra Fluke think of this new type of wiminz empowerement, Middle Eastern style? :) Probably it’s aspirational for her and the likes of her…Actually Mika made it clear already how much she admires Huma and how extraordinary she finds her :)…So, a role model for young Dim wiminz has been born and a new glass ceiling has been broken :)…Can’t stop thinking that Jenny Sanford has more dignity in her fngertips than all these three pathetic wiminz combined….

jimver on July 24, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Tinks that is, not think…

jimver on July 24, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Thinks,not think…

jimver on July 24, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Finally, the Left has their very own real life version of the Maury Povich Show. When does Weiner start claiming that Huma’s baby aint really his?

Captain Kirock on July 24, 2013 at 5:08 PM

See Weiner didn’t do anything. He just tried to get a young girl to move across the country to be near him; reliant on him for her livelihood, job, and home…

No strings attached, he’s just that nice kind of guy who will move you across the country on his dime and let you live on his dime for nothing.

gekkobear on July 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Nah. Not across the country. His cyber-booty call (the unlikely named Ms. Sydney Leathers) is in Indiana. Lover boy only offered to get her an apartment “next door” in Chicago. The rest of your point is spot-on.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on July 24, 2013 at 5:10 PM

His cyber-booty call (the unlikely named Ms. Sydney Leathers)…

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on July 24, 2013 at 5:10 PM

:) I still can’t believe that name is for real :) maybe that’s what he was referring to when he said that some things that have been posted were true, but some were not :)…

jimver on July 24, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Chris Hayes: I found the defense of Weiner by his wife “surprisingly persuasive”

I find the ability of Weiner to be “surprisingly persuasive” in his ability to dupe young women into online sexual relationships with a married family man.

weaselyone on July 24, 2013 at 5:23 PM

If he pulls out she won’t get that prominent position in Hillary’s presidency. Someone needs to feed the baby, and the Utopian dreams.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Now there’s an idea I hadn’t thought of. Not sure if you meant it this way or not, but what if this whole thing has nothing to do with wienerboy becoming mayor. What if both of them completely realize he’s finished, so this is about pushing Huma in the public eye as much as possible, where the press can build her up as the second coming of Hillbilly (but Muslim! Diversity!) as a lead-up to that prominent position?

Sockpuppet Politic on July 24, 2013 at 5:24 PM

jimver on July 24, 2013 at 5:20 PM

More pathetic would be if he didn’t know or even care to know her real name.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on July 24, 2013 at 5:25 PM

AnA novel use of the word “surprisingly” as a synonym for “fatuously”.

drunyan8315 on July 24, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Hayes and Huma have little in common.

Hayes likes weiner.

Huma likes taco.

1921 C DRUM on July 24, 2013 at 5:49 PM

The real reason Huma doesn’t even care about this is that the HornDog is her beard. It’s a pretty open secret she’s Shrillary’s girl.

She followed Hitlery’s pattern, married a guy, had a kid to cover and is skating through.

It is becoming more and more transparent – I know of NO woman in a legitimate marriage who would put up with his shenanigans for 2 seconds, much less all the times that are ADMITTED to – KNOWING there are more.

PJ Emeritus on July 24, 2013 at 5:51 PM

BTW, before any of our resident trolls get indignant – that’s NOT my analysis of the situation – it happens to be precisely what my LESBIAN ex-sister-in-law thinks is going on. It’s HER take, and it makes sense entirely.

PJ Emeritus on July 24, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Why do all the lesbians on MSDNC always say such ridiculous things?

jukin3 on July 24, 2013 at 4:00 PM

And don’t forget that Ray-Ray Maddow guy. He’s as much of an idiot as his little sister Cris Hayes (the lesbian).

Solaratov on July 24, 2013 at 6:02 PM

surprising persuasive = Jim Jones

go ahead sheep, follow the leader…

burserker on July 24, 2013 at 6:13 PM

I’ll bet Chris Hayes is on Weiner’s list of sext recipients.

applebutter on July 24, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Shame on that man for knowingly humiliating his wife like that. Again. He’s truly despicable.

scalleywag on July 24, 2013 at 6:32 PM

BTW, before any of our resident trolls get indignant …
PJ Emeritus on July 24, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Not just the trolls, but so many of the low info and/or shallow thinkers on ‘our side’.

LegendHasIt on July 24, 2013 at 6:44 PM

What a bunch of douche bags. All of them: Hayes, Weiner, Huma.

Hucklebuck on July 24, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Huma Abedin is indeed a “wronged woman” but she also seems to be suffering from something similar to Stockholm Syndrome regarding her husband’s depravity.

jix on July 24, 2013 at 7:30 PM

It’s all a vast right wing conspiracy. Didnt Huma learn anything from Hillary ?

jaywemm on July 25, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Chris Hayes: I found the defense of Weiner by his wife “surprisingly persuasive”

Because you’re an idiot bootlicker.

You wouldn’t know a free thought if it fell out your ear hole and broke your big toe.

Sponge on July 25, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Nah. Not across the country. His cyber-booty call (the unlikely named Ms. Sydney Leathers) is in Indiana. Lover boy only offered to get her an apartment “next door” in Chicago. The rest of your point is spot-on.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on July 24, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Fair enough, since they hadn’t met I assumed incorrectly the distance was greater than a day-trip.

gekkobear on July 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM

It wasnt the sexting and potential for blackmail or espionage that was the problem (his wife does enough espionage for the Muslim Brotherhood that any more is a pittance).

It was the fact that he was so sleazy in his lying day after day. Go back and watch videos of him lying. How can you ever know if be tells the truth?!

GardenGnome on July 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM