Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on July 23, 2013 by Allahpundit

ObamaCare is at the center of a rapidly escalating fight that threatens to shut the government down this fall.

Senate Republicans, including two members of the leadership, are coalescing around a proposal to block any government funding resolution that includes money for the implementation of the 2010 Affordable Care Act

“This is the last stop before ObamaCare fully kicks in on Jan. 1 of next year for us to refuse to fund it,” [Mike] Lee said Monday on “Fox and Friends.”

“If Republicans in both houses simply refuse to vote for any continuing resolution that contains further funding for further enforcement of ObamaCare, we can stop it. We can stop the individual mandate from going into effect,” he said.

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Lee similarly suggested in a Friday interview on WBAL 1090 AM that he and other Republicans would be willing to shut down the government.

“I’ll utilize every procedural mechanism at my disposal to do it,” he said. “I generally don’t signal in advance what procedural maneuvers exactly I’ll use because it’s usually not good strategy. But what I am saying is I will not vote for a continuing resolution that contains funding for further Obamacare implantation and enforcement. So far I have got, I don’t know, 13 or 14 Senate Republicans who have joined me. I think a corresponding effort is starting to be kicked off in the House. And I expect these numbers to grow steadily as Americans realize the president has said he’s not going to implement the law as written. If he’s not going to implement the law, we shouldn’t be forced to fund it.”

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The landmark health-reform law passed in 2010 has never been very popular and always highly partisan, but a new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds that a group of once loyal Democrats has been steadily turning against Obamacare: Democrats who are ideologically moderate or conservative.

Just after the law was passed in 2010, fully 74 percent of moderate and conservative Democrats supported the federal law making changes to the health-care system. But just 46 percent express support in the new poll, down 11 points in the past year. Liberal Democrats, by contrast, have continued to support the law at very high levels – 78 percent in the latest survey. Among the public at large, 42 percent support and 49 percent oppose the law, retreating from an even split at 47 percent apiece last July.

The shift among the Democratic party’s large swath in the ideological middle– most Democrats in this poll, 57 percent, identify as moderate or conservative – is driving an overall drop in party support for the legislation: Just 58 percent of Democrats now support the law, down from 68 percent last year and the lowest since the law was enacted in 2010.

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Few things are more important to the White House this year than a successful health care rollout on Oct. 1, when millions of uninsured Americans will be required to obtain private health coverage in government-run marketplaces. Getting it right — or wrong — will help determine Mr. Obama’s place in history.

Enter the Obamacare Team, some two dozen political operators and data-crunching technocrats charged with carrying out the biggest health care overhaul since Medicare in the 1960s — but with more pitfalls. Their job is to sell the law to large numbers of Americans who remain divided about its value and wary of its impact. Republicans have seized on one Democratic description of the health care law as a “train wreck,” particularly after the administration announced a politically damaging one-year delay in a key provision of the law.

Working out of war rooms in the West Wing basement, the Eisenhower Executive Office Building and the Department of Health and Human Services, the team is first trying to find in the next year 2.7 million uninsured people between 18 and 35, most of whom are healthy. Just as Mr. Obama’s electoral success hinged on the turnout machine he created in Chicago, the fate of the health care law rests on whether his administration can turn out and enroll the uninsured.

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A majority of adults don’t want to repeal the Affordable Care Act, according to the latest United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll, preferring instead to either spend more on its implementation or wait to see if changes are needed later…

Given the choice to either repeal the law, wait and see how it takes effect, or add money to aid its implementation, only 36 percent of adults picked outright repeal. More than half chose to either wait and see (30 percent) or provide more money (27 percent)…

And when told that an independent Congressional Budget Office study had determined that repealing Obamacare would actually increase the deficit, a narrow plurality of respondents preferred to keep the law. On the question, 48 percent said “Congress should keep the program to expand coverage because it’s important to reduce the number of Americans without health insurance,” while 42 percent said “Congress should repeal the program to expand coverage because the government can’t afford it at a time of large budget deficits.”

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On the other hand, a lot of thoughtful conservatives are looking beyond Oct. 1 to Jan. 1, the day the law (except for the parts the president has unilaterally postponed) is scheduled to go fully into effect. On that day the government will begin subsidizing health insurance for millions of Americans. (A family of four with income as high as $88,000 will be eligible for subsidies.) When people begin receiving that entitlement, the dynamics of the Obamacare debate will change.

At that point, the Republican mantra of total repeal will become obsolete. The administration will mount a huge public relations campaign to highlight individuals who have received government assistance to help them afford, say, chemotherapy, or dialysis, or some other life-saving treatment. Will Republicans advocate cutting off the funds that help pay for such care?

The answer is no. Facing that reality, the GOP is likely to change its approach, arguing that those people should be helped while the rest of Obamacare is somehow dismantled…

“The last few months have shown us that the administration will do whatever it needs to do — whether it is in the law or not, within its formal powers or beyond them — to prop up collapsing elements and avoid political disasters in the near term,” said Yuval Levin, a former Bush administration staffer and one of Obamacare’s most perceptive critics, in an email exchange. “That often means pure ad hoc governing where they just do whatever they have to in order to avoid allowing the system’s worst problems and failings to become apparent in the near term.”

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Once Americans can take advantage of the law’s benefits—once more low-income people become eligible for Medicaid, and once more low- and middle-income people start to get subsidies that will help them buy private insurance—taking those benefits away will be nearly impossible, particularly since Republicans still haven’t proposed an alternative that would come close to providing the same level of security.

As for the idea that the people who benefit will be outnumbered by those who suffer, that’s possible but highly unlikely. As we’ve seen in the intense back-and-forth over “rate shock” for young people, Obamacare critics tend to assume it’s a narrow, very poor group of Americans who will take advantage of the protection the law provides. But about 27 million people are going to end up on Medicaid or in the new insurance exchanges by 2017, according to the Congressional Budget Office. (Even more will end up on Medicaid if states refusing to expand their programs relent.) These people will be disproportionately low-income, but several million will be middle-income…

Plenty of things could still go wrong in the immediate future, of course. Obamacare is not the law most of its supporters originally wanted. It’s less generous, more complicated, and less efficient. It also depends on skill and good faith from state officials, many of whom are actively hostile to it. (Steve Benen recently counted seven ways officials hostile to Obamacare are trying to sabotage it.) The online insurance marketplaces might crash when they go online; people who need guidance might not be able to find reliable sources of it; states might be slow to figure out eligibility for low-income supports. The list of potential problems goes on. For the most part, these problems will mean delaying help for people already having a hard time. They will not have much effect on everybody else. And while the media will highlight these stories—as they should—it will also have other stories to tell, about many millions of people getting the financial security and access to care that has long eluded them.

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canopfor on July 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Awesome. It’s in my trucks stereo jukebox.

I always thought Neil Young was hot on guitar until I started taking lessons from a friend. He pointed out how sloppy he was. This is still my favorite guitar lead and riff. I thought it was genius until he showed me how much Young mashes strings together.

Still a great old tune.

Like A Hurricane.

hawkdriver on July 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

hawkdriver:

A-1,listening now,I do like Rocking the Free World,
and I was thinking the other day about it,and with Neils anti-war stance,you and your brothers were actually,Rocking the Free World,so Neil could/can sing that tune!!

Just an aside!:)

canopfor on July 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

http://www.shorpy.com/

canopfor on July 23, 2013 at 11:47 PM

I’ve seen that site before. I think AoSHQ has linked it in the past. So many websites; so little time.

gh on July 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

gh:So little time,ain’t that the truth:)

canopfor on July 23, 2013 at 11:52 PM

I saw that Blueshrill went after me in the 2016 thread.
Small mind w/ little to do.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM

I angered “it” one day. It actually was kind of funny.

gophergirl on July 23, 2013 at 11:53 PM

williamg on July 23, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Careful…

KCB on July 23, 2013 at 11:53 PM

KOOLAID2 on July 23, 2013 at 11:42 PM

My department manager is a Texan who’s of Mexican descent. He’s totally crazy-in a good way.
He’s a US Army vet, loves heavy metal tunes, and has been married…many times. He doesn’t consider me to be a racist..because I’m not.
i wonder what shrill would think of him.///

annoyinglittletwerp on July 23, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Hi GG!

KCB on July 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Tamara Holder‏@tamaraholder5h

Public service has nothing to do with bedroom service. 98.4367% of men cheat. I do know a few good men who don’t. Leave #Weiner alone.

Yeah, this from a woman who slept with Jesse Jackson on numerous occasions, had what she thought was an affair with him, etc. She’s like Colonel Sanders saying he just wants to take good care of the chickens. What a mindless twit.

TXUS on July 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM

OK, that right there is darn funny.

GrannyDee on July 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Hi GG!

KCB on July 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Hello – just popping in for a bit before I go to bed. Early day tomorrow.

gophergirl on July 23, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Hello – just popping in for a bit before I go to bed. Early day tomorrow.

gophergirl on July 23, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Glad I got to see you!

KCB on July 23, 2013 at 11:55 PM

rickyricardo on July 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

I have a cart-load of pre-existing conditions. I’ve never been denied insurance because of them.
Thanks for playing.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46xV1SIJt-M

canopfor on July 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Brings back memories of my first transistor radio … listening late at night after going to bed.

gh on July 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM

gh:Brings me back to 72′,yup,listening to the Top 10!:)

canopfor on July 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Punchenko on July 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Dubya impresses you more than Cruz?????? We talking Gringo Jorge Dubya?

bw222 on July 23, 2013 at 11:43 PM

On the issues no. But as much as I dislike Bush I and Bush II, Bush II makes me smile when he’s on TV grinning and what not. He has real charisma. He has that swagger I was talking about which is important.

I know, it sounds silly, but folks are looking for it along with gravitas.

He seems like a nice guy — just too nice to be POTUS.

Punchenko on July 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Well then, whose your ideal candidate?

Vince on July 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM

My ideal candidate would be Reagan or Thatcher. They both had swagger, knew what they believed, did what they could, and left lasting legacies. They renewed the national spirits of both the US and the UK. They were pure political magic.

Now then, among the 2016 crowd, I’m not so sure — all of them are disappointing in one way or another. What I do know is that “compassionate conservatism” or “neoconservatism” isn’t going to cut it. We need someone serious (gravitas) with swagger, fearlessness, and vision.

So far Rand Paul has some vision and has rocked the boat. He’s serious, but he’s hated by the Beltway Gentry.

Cruz has the smarts but lacks the swagger and gravitas.

Chris Christie is savvy but ruthless and too ambitious (but ruthless might be needed against Clinton Inc.)

Rubio is a silky pony and dimwitted. He’ll get creamed by Hillary.

Jindal is uninspiring and Santorum is creepy, cynical, and a throwback to the past.

Perry has the swagger and the record.

Walker messed up pandering and lacks credentials which is important to some.

Paul Ryan is just sigh now.

Jeb, LOL.

So, I guess I would lean Rand since he is different and so far has proven himself rather savvy. Problem is his daddy and whether or not the crazy is strong with the son. I would vote for Christie just because he managed to play the Democrats and survive Jersey. But Christie is a RINO and I don’t agree with him on guns.

So, it’s tough for me right now. :-(

Punchenko on July 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Punchenko on July 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Cruz certainly does NOT lack gravitas.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Cruz certainly does NOT lack gravitas.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM

He does, sadly. He was awful on ABC last Sunday. I didn’t even like his speech at the convention with all of the walking around on stage.

Punchenko on July 24, 2013 at 12:02 AM

Otay,I’m bugging out,

Night Everyone,heres one for the road??????????????
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VIA:
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https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BreakingNews&src=hash

Yemeni journalist imprisoned on pressure from Obama freed

Published time: July 24, 2013 03:03
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(Exerpts….More…)

Abdulelah Haider Shaye, who exposed a US strike in Yemen that killed dozens of civilian women and children, is now reported freed by the country’s authorities. He had been jailed after a personal phone call from Washington to Yemen’s leadership.

Shaye is thought to have came to the attention of Washington when he revealed that a US strike on the village of al-Majala in December of 2009 had allegedly killed over 40 civilians, including 14 women and 21 children, along with suspected militants. That attack had previously been billed as a Yemeni airstrike on an al-Qaeda training camp.

That narrative has also been supported by various influential journalists, including Jeremy Scahill, the author of Dirty Wars: The World is a Battlefield, which was recently made into a critically acclaimed film, and Glenn Greenwald, who contends that Shaye was punished for uncovering evidence of American Tomahawk missiles and cluster bombs in a March piece published by Salon.

“As we now know, on December 17, 2009, President Obama ordered an air attack — using Tomahawk cruise missiles and cluster bombs — on the village of al Majala in Yemen’s southern Abyan province; the strike ended the lives of 14 women and 21 children. At the time, the Yemeni government outright lied about the attack, falsely claiming that it was Yemen’s air force which was responsible.”

“Despite that important journalism — or, more accurately, because of it — Shaye is now in prison, thanks largely to President Obama himself,” wrote Greenwald.

In June, Scahill went so far as to describe the jailing of Shaye as a personal vendetta by Obama during an interview with Reason TV. On Tuesday, Scahill, who appeared to be in direct contact with Shaye’s attorney, said that his client had been released, though barred from leaving the Yemeni capital of Sana’a for two years “after which time his case will be reviewed.”
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http://rt.com/news/yemeni-journalist-shaye-freed-500/

canopfor on July 24, 2013 at 12:05 AM

I have a cart-load of pre-existing conditions. I’ve never been denied insurance because of them.
Thanks for playing.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM

It’s so nice to see you, ALT! You are missed!

williamg on July 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Punchenko on July 24, 2013 at 12:02 AM

Everyone is entitled to an opinion-even if it’s a wrong opinion.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM

williamg on July 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Thanks. I got ‘sprung’ last Thursday.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 24, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Well when Barry leaves DC he can become a human toilet plunger. That’s one of his innate qualifications.

SparkPlug on July 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM

canopfor on July 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

He was supportive of Bush after 9-11. They all get corralled in by their liberal peers.

Here’s one I do for Mrs Hawkdriver on guitar. I cant sing well but she likes it overall. This’ll get a smile and a head on my shoulder every time.

She could use a prayer for her health if you do that.

G-nite.

hawkdriver on July 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Punchenko on July 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Cruz certainly does NOT lack gravitas.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Punch is probably thinking of Penelope

I don’t think there is a more principled senator or congressman than Cruz. He doesn’t breath fire but reason.

gracie on July 24, 2013 at 12:13 AM

He seems like a nice guy — just too nice to be POTUS.

Punchenko on July 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

So you’re saying that Ted Cruz is too compassionate-conservative for your tastes, unlike Bush and Perry?

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Hay.

If Olympia Snowe likes Mike Enzi then I take that as another cue to support Liz Cheney.

That is all.

Corporal Tunnel on July 24, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Punchenko on July 24, 2013 at 12:02 AM

i went back and watched Cruz vs. Feinstein et al.

regardless of gravitas Cruz was winning on points. Feinstein was insulted to be asked an impertinent question by a young-un. I imagine that Cruz was shocked that she didn’t immediately go to the ‘exceptions’ argument…and had to be bailed out by Leahy. Pretty sad really.

No doubt, being a good lawyer, Cruz expected the exceptions argument (pornography) straight away..to which surely he had a response. Regrettably Durbin had to jump in to save Diane also.

all in all a sad day. Just pass a law and see if SCOTUS allows it. then of course Roberts says…hell..we’ll pass, if you want different laws, elect different people, morons

Left 21, County 0

r keller on July 24, 2013 at 12:14 AM

All you people that purchased 8 gal shop vacs have been p3wned.

They use the same bags as the 5 gal shop vacs. Haha.

SparkPlug on July 24, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Song, Song, Blue

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Is it too late for spock to give Axe a twerpian nerve Pinch?

SparkPlug on July 24, 2013 at 12:17 AM

All you people that purchased 8 gal shop vacs have been p3wned.

They use the same bags as the 5 gal shop vacs. Haha.

SparkPlug on July 24, 2013 at 12:16 AM

You bought the 8 gallon, didn’t you?

KCB on July 24, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Punchenko on July 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Thanks for a detailed answer! I like Walker even with the immigration comment. I also like Paul. I’m much less of a hawk than I used to be only because the civilians always screw it up and the troops suffer.
Cruz is interesting but you’re right, it’s too early to have a favorite.

Vince on July 24, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Has anyone figured out how to measure the size of Schads brain?

Prolly a couple of gigawatts at least.

SparkPlug on July 24, 2013 at 12:19 AM

SparkPlug on July 24, 2013 at 12:19 AM

No but if yoiu find something that works we can try it on Sophie too!

KCB on July 24, 2013 at 12:20 AM

She could use a prayer for her health if you do that.

G-nite.

hawkdriver on July 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM

You got it.

Vince on July 24, 2013 at 12:21 AM

hawkdriver, I hope your lady gets better soon.

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Who has done what to RWM? We need her back, in top form.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 12:21 AM

He seems like a nice guy — just too nice to be POTUS.

Punchenko on July 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

So you’re saying that Ted Cruz is too compassionate-conservative for your tastes, unlike Bush and Perry?

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:13 AM

No, so far he sounds good on the issues and hasn’t stepped on any landmines like the others. He just doesn’t seem very presidential, I guess is the word.

Dubya just carried himself well, kind of like Reagan, played the cowboy good, but was awful on the issues — right down to appointing Roberts, for heaven’s sake (although we lucked out with Alito.) It’s just something about Cruz’s presence that’s lacking. I’m already skeptical of Cruz because of his background in government and Harvard, but other than the presence (or gravitas) issue he has been solid on the issues unlike the others so far.

Ugh, I’m really upsetting Ted’s fan club though talking about it.

Punchenko on July 24, 2013 at 12:22 AM

KCB on July 24, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Good plan ken. Maybe we can get her to measure Schads brain and Schad will measure her brain and we can go get a beer while they do our work.

Hehe

SparkPlug on July 24, 2013 at 12:23 AM

McCain is the Disgrace of the Land.

Drudge has the perfect picture of the old incontinent, who belongs in a creche.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 12:23 AM

KCB on July 24, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Yep. Funny ken. Hey maybe I can jam a 13 gal bag into an 8 gal vac and collect 13 gal of Saw dust.

SparkPlug on July 24, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Now I can type faster with the go keyboard. The swift key program wasn’t so swift.

SparkPlug on July 24, 2013 at 12:27 AM

the left is loving then some more McCain

But the deals are where McCain may prove to be Obama’s biggest second-term ally. By ending Republican obstruction of NLRB appointments, the agency can put behind the constitutional questions around the president’s earlier recess appointments that had left recent NLRB decisions in legal limbo, frustrating both workers and employers. And a fully functioning NLRB gives Obama a renewed opportunity to strengthen worker rights that have been degrading for decades.

By ending Republican obstruction of Obama’s choice to run the CFPB, Republicans abandoned their last ditch effort to nullify this cornerstone of Obama’s financial reform law, allowing Obama to lock down new bank regulations that could prevent future market meltdowns.

And if immigration reform does eventually clear the House and reach the president’s desk, McCain will have facilitated what may become Obama’s biggest second-term legislative victory, ending the underground economy of second-class citizens.

Why exactly McCain has shifted his posture in Obama’s second-term we may never know, but it’s certainly rational. To remain bitter until the end of his Senate career would have rendered McCain as little more than a sad footnote in history. But to shake off his 2008 defeat and work with the president on issues he’s long cared about gives McCain the chance to be one of the most consequential senators (and defeated presidential nominees) in history.

And if McCain really wanted to seal his place in history, he might think about restarting those climate talks

guy from Campaign for America’s Future

http://theweek.com/article/index/246947/will-john-mccain-save-obamas-second-term

when Rs get to the point of calling ignorant showboats like McCain out, then i’ll listen

r keller on July 24, 2013 at 12:30 AM

hawkdriver on July 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM

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Done

PolAgnostic on July 24, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Punchenko on July 24, 2013 at 12:22 AM

I’m also skeptical of Ted Cruz because of his Harvard connection, but I’m encouraged that he was very critical of the Harvard faculty while there.

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:38 AM

I’m also skeptical of Ted Cruz because of his Harvard connection, but I’m encouraged that he was very critical of the Harvard faculty while there.

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Per Derschowitz, who was his law professor there, he’s one of the smartest people, ever, and one of the best debaters.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Punchenko on July 24, 2013 at 12:22 AM

Do you think Calvin Coolidge, who was nicknamed “Silent Cal”, had the kind of gravitas you’re looking for? I think that the candidates judgement and principles are more important than the cool factor.

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Maybe it’s the moonlight, maybe the soft breeze on the deck, maybe the call of the seagulls circling about, maybe the smell of the salt water, as we slice through the waves, bound at once for nowhere and everywhere.

It is then I wonder where the hell is Jackie and her music. Only she and a cocktail or two could make this a perfect voyage. ;-)

TXUS on July 24, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Mike Lee anyone ?

I don’t think he’ll be running in 2016 but I’d like to him as pres someday. Or is he too laid-back?

gh on July 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 12:46 AM

But isn’t Derschowitz the lawyer that helped OJ get off, is out for Edward Snowden’s head and is a proponent of the Stasi police state?

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM

gh on July 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Mike Lee is one of my favorites.

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:49 AM

The Sky is Crying

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Or is he too laid-back?

gh on July 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM

I wasn’t around in Calvin Coolidge’s day but it sounds like he was pretty laid back, and according to Wikipedia, “Coolidge restored public confidence in the White House after the scandals of his predecessor’s administration, and left office with considerable popularity”.

It sounds like a laid back president like Calvin Coolidge is what America needs right about now.

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:56 AM

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM

He’s a D and all that, but totally by the law on Zimmerman and all that ensued, and a heck of a professor. It’s precisely because he assessed Cruz that way that it matters so much. He also said that Cruz is totatally legit to run.

I’d like to see Cruz run for many reasons, one of them to see the left pretzel themselves over Cruz’ eligibility, after obama.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Nothing’s the Same

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:07 AM

This creep hired his wife at the DHS, nepotism being against the inspector general rules, and let her work for 7 months…from….India.

It’s just one item on how the taxpayers are scroomed.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:17 AM

Per Derschowitz, who was his law professor there, he’s one of the smartest people, ever, and one of the best debaters.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 12:46 AM

How serious are you here?

If you are not being hyperbolic, I suggest you go and read up about Alan’s social/political positions – he is often brilliant, but he’s often stridently wrongheaded, too.

Anti-Control on July 24, 2013 at 1:24 AM

Anti-Control on July 24, 2013 at 1:24 AM

No, no…I wrote about Alan saying that Cruz is “brilliant”.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:27 AM

…and I’m very serious.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:27 AM

A-C, Derschowitz said that Ted Cruz, his pupil at Harvard, was one of “the smartest and a great debater”, even though they are political and philosophical opposites.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:31 AM

End of the World

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:32 AM

I’m also skeptical of Ted Cruz because of his Harvard connection

FloatingRock on July 24, 2013 at 12:38 AM

It’s the current rock you have to pay penance to, but I sure wish they’d start to come from my alma mater, Stanford, where there is the Hoover Institute and a great deal of solid conservative thought.

John the Libertarian on July 24, 2013 at 1:34 AM

A-C, Derschowitz said that Ted Cruz, his pupil at Harvard, was one of “the smartest and a great debater”, even though they are political and philosophical opposites.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:31 AM

I apologize to you – I see I missed “Per” in your 12:46 post when I first read it! Sorry about that. :)

Anti-Control on July 24, 2013 at 1:35 AM

No worries A-C. Glad we cleared up.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:37 AM

Picture of the Moon

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:39 AM

I saw that Blueshrill went after me in the 2016 thread.
Small mind w/ little to do.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Did you see this story about her from earlier today?

Amanda Bynes set pants on fire before being detained, witness says

Anti-Control on July 24, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Quick Pop in:

Gas Rig in the Gulf had a BLOW OUT,about five hours ago!

She caught fire:
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MORE: Fire breaks out on a blown-out Gulf of Mexico gas well, federal official confirms: http://t.co/nkPC5bD9nq – VW – @AP

8 mins ago from twitter.com/AP by partner
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Fire breaks out on evacuated Gulf gas well
By KEVIN McGILL
— Jul. 24 1:26 AM EDT
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NEW ORLEANS (AP) — A federal official has confirmed that a fire has broken out on a blown-out Gulf of Mexico gas well.

Eileen Angelico of the Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement confirmed to The Associated Press that the evacuated rig caught fire late Tuesday. There were no immediate reports of injuries.

The drilling rig involved was evacuated early Tuesday when the blowout occurred.

Angelico says it wasn’t immediately clear what caused the gas to ignite. And it wasn’t known what efforts to extinguish the blaze were being made early Wednesday.

Personnel with Wild Well Control Inc. were at the site to assess how and when to try to bring the well under control.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/47-rescued-gulf-rig-natural-gas-leaking

BREAKING: Federal agency confirms fire has broken out on blown-out Gulf gas well that was evacuated. – @AP

16 mins ago from twitter.com/AP by partner

canopfor on July 24, 2013 at 1:45 AM

Hard to choose a favorite version

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:49 AM

No worries A-C. Glad we cleared up.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:37 AM

I am a big fan of Cruz – he’s #1 in the Senate as far as I am concerned.

I understand Punchenko’s point about him, but someone like Ted is smart enough to rise to whatever challenge he needs to, imo.

Picture of the Moon

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 1:39 AM

SparkPlug was involved in naming this one:

The B-52′s – “There’s a Moon in the Sky (Called the Moon)”

There’s a moon in the sky
It’s called the moon
And everybody is there, including,
Saturn, Mercury
Saturn, Venus
Saturn, Mars
Saturn, Jupiter
The Van Allen Belt

Roll-roll-roll-roll-rollin’ in Andromeda
Won-ton-ton-ton rama-in-Andromeda

There’s too many rings—This is the Space Age
There’s too many things—This is the Space Age
Just ain’t no atmosphere tonight

If you’re lucky you get to ride in a gold meteorite
If you’re not, you get a mouth, a mouthful of red Kryptonite
You better move over
Here comes a Super-nova
Kryptonite- – -
Destination moon

If you’re in outer space
Don’t feel out of place
’cause there are thousands of others like you
Others like you
Others like you

Well there’s a moon, it’s in the sky
It’s called the moon
And everybody is there ‘cluding
‘ranus
Neptune
‘ranus
Pluto
Destination moon

Many gamma rays around it
Van Allen Belt surrounds it
This is the Space Age
Please don’t worry
This is the Space Age
Just don’t worry
This is the Space Age
Others like you
Ahhh ahhh……….

Anti-Control on July 24, 2013 at 1:52 AM

I’m sorry that I’m late. There has been some difficult weather here this evening. Severe thunderstorms, flooding, downed trees, and power outages due to 80 MPH straight line winds.

It’s letting up now. :) We’re scheduled to have rain and possible flooding until about 6 AM.

thatsafactjack on July 24, 2013 at 2:05 AM

For All We Know – Chet Baker

thatsafactjack on July 24, 2013 at 2:09 AM

here’s a charming little nugget from Kaus

“Homeland Security officials don’t fully know the answers to those questions. And the reason, say leading migration researchers, is that DHS officials don’t want to know, and don’t want the public to know, either.” [E.A.]

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/23/obama-doesnt-want-to-know/#ixzz2ZwMM7S2B

you see, for people who really want to get into this country…not *that* much of a problem. Sure, it might take a couple of tries…but hey, once you’re here things get better.

so, we basically have an open border…and barry is just making it so that rather than be in the ‘shadows’ you can all come out and Vote for Barry..and his successors.

but its okay, because the left will get the Voters and Power…and the Party of Business will get a big Thank You! from businesses who will have a better ROI…see it all works out for the best…and John McCain will have a legacy as a failed pres candidate who redeemed himself for History /s

r keller on July 24, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Would that I could have learned speed reading. My humble blessings to you all.
Speed commenting is problematic,
Is it okay, here, to say that Obama is a miserable puke?
If so, I’d like to extend that to the lame-assed republicans, you know who your are.
And, virtually all the dimwits (you democrats also know yourselves by your drama).

Liars and obfuscators, in suits and business attire.
Dragging the whole world down, day after day.
A pox on the bunch of you.

Tell us what you really think.

I am happier than that comment would seem.
zzzzzZZZZ

mickytx on July 24, 2013 at 2:34 AM

And when told that an independent Congressional Budget Office study had determined that repealing Obamacare would actually increase the deficit, a narrow plurality of respondents preferred to keep the law.

SO, when you lie to them they agree with you? Shocking.

The CBO scoring required 10 years of taxes to offset 6 years of benefits… taking 4 years of taxes and then having no benefits seems better.

And if you didn’t get the taxes before (delaying/deferring them) then lets be honest, you’re not going to get them in the future either.

gekkobear on July 24, 2013 at 2:56 AM

but its okay, because the left will get the Voters and Power…and the Party of Business will get a big Thank You! from businesses who will have a better ROI…see it all works out for the best…and John McCain will have a legacy as a failed pres candidate who redeemed himself for History /s

r keller on July 24, 2013 at 2:11 AM

I don’t think he cares about his legacy. I think he’s pushing for Amnesty is an act of revenge against the conservatives who refused to support him or he’s been bought by big business, or both.

dogsoldier on July 24, 2013 at 5:51 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! Hey, Republicans…

Buck up or stay in the truck.

- Sarah Palin “Obama and the Vichy Republicans” My take.

kingsjester on July 24, 2013 at 6:40 AM

Mike Lee anyone ?

I don’t think he’ll be running in 2016 but I’d like to him as pres someday. Or is he too laid-back?

gh on July 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Mike Lee is exactly who we need. All he needs is a little more name recognition and he’s there.HE has guts and brains and embraces conservative values need I say more?

rodguy911 on July 24, 2013 at 7:02 AM

Mike Lee is exactly who we need. All he needs is a little more name recognition and he’s there.HE has guts and brains and embraces conservative values need I say more?

rodguy911 on July 24, 2013 at 7:02 AM

I don’t know a thing about Lee but he has it right. The rat-eared mullato and his minions make the claim that the GOP needs to stop fighting Obamacare because it is the law. Well, it is a bad law. It is an evil law. It will kill people. This is the kind of legislation that should be fought even as RINO bastards go along to get along with the enemy.

Happy Nomad on July 24, 2013 at 7:30 AM

A majority of adults don’t want to repeal the Affordable Care Act… preferring instead to either spend more on its implementation or wait to see if changes are needed later…

You know they don’t mean their own money

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” ~ Margaret Thatcher

Fallon on July 24, 2013 at 8:24 AM

- Sarah Palin “Obama and the Vichy Republicans” My take.

kingsjester on July 24, 2013 at 6:40 AM

…ha ha!

KOOLAID2 on July 24, 2013 at 8:42 AM

At a time when the current president is going down in flames, instead of roasting marshmallows over the bonfire, Vichy Republicans are “reaching across the aisle” to help save the Prevaricator-in-Chief.

Nice take, KJ. :)

Fallon on July 24, 2013 at 8:48 AM

More food for the naïve GOP base knowing they’ll actually believe that they really intend to take such political risk, just to save the nation.
Men of such character and courage passed this way ages ago, but no longer.

Don L on July 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM

hawkdriver on July 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM
.
Done

PolAgnostic on July 24, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Prayers answered. Thanks everyone that did.

Just back from a retest for Mrs Hawkdriver at local imaging. A second ordered mammogram and ultrasound after one a week ago. Nothing further to be concerned about at this time.

I will always fail about being able to completely put something like this in God’s hands and not worry so much. I was ready to bust waiting for her.

hawkdriver on July 24, 2013 at 11:01 AM

thatsafactjack on July 24, 2013 at 2:05 AM

Hi Jackie. I hope the storm passed and you and your neighborhood are ok. Last night was a depressing QotD, like the land is.

For All We Know – Chet Baker

thatsafactjack on July 24, 2013 at 2:09 AM

How superbly morose. Excellent pick. You sure have the touch finely tuned. Thank you.

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Good new hawkdriver, thank God!

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Good news, hawk…

Schadenfreude on July 24, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Obamacare possibilities of working is all on paper and projections. Like Nancy said you got to vote it without reading and understanding to like it. The same is still true. Now it is to have to let go into effect to let it work to find out about it to see if it will work. The problem is the business get a break. The individual does not. So in 2014, the individual better cough up the penalty tax if you do not want government interference. Also before then you will have to either go into a government exchange or pay for higher insurance. If you go into a government exchange be prepared to wait for care. Those able to get insurance be prepared for rate hikes.

Congress needs to get Obamacare out of the way.

Portia on July 24, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Yeah,,,,,”Laid Back”…..riiiiiiiiiiight – THAT’S the ticket!!!

I hear Obama is “Laid Back”……so is Joe Biden, and – if I’m not mistaken: so is Gregg Allman….

williamg on July 24, 2013 at 10:07 PM

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